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Title: OTCgate scandal - DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: AdamWhite on October 25, 2015, 02:28:28 PM
The following has been brought to the attention of the DASH core team several times and has been categorically ignored.
 

Here is eduffield posting about how the DASH team have as much DASH for sale as you could possibly want OTC. If you're not interested now, don't worry. You can join the mailing list!


Hello Everyone

We're making great progress with PR and our marketing team was looking for other OTC buyers. If you're interested in getting some extra Dash and helping out at the same time, this is a great way to do it. Contact daniel@dashpay.io if you're interested.

If you're not interested right now, but you might be in the future please also email daniel@dashpay.io and he will add you to the mailing list. This is going to be the ongoing way expenses are paid for to promote dash.

Thanks!

DCT Thread : https://dashtalk.org/threads/opening-otc-trading-to-community.6173


daniel@dashpay.io is Minotaur26, you might remember him from his shill post (https://bitcointalk.org/uoKRgd6.png) recommending DASH as a buy at over 0.012+. At the same time, eduffield is spamming the thread with "i'm buying!" along with his amateur hour "Technical Analysis":


Cute buy wall 32btc @.0101

Finally got my money to the exchange  ;)

I'm seeing all sorts of stuff happening in the charts all at once, which is a great sign when you see a bunch of bullish formations at once. This is how I used to day trade for my firm back in the day. The general idea here is you go from the shortest time period, then you walk out to the longest. If you see bullish or bearish signals in all of the charts at once, it's quite meaningful. Here's what I'm seeing:

On the really short term chart, there's a triple top:
https://i.imgur.com/KH50Tqr.png
https://i.imgur.com/rgkWj9T.png

Moving averages are crossing as we speak, so momentum is changing from negative to positive:
https://i.imgur.com/RTeRGUR.png

If you step out a bit, It looks like we're going to cross in a couple days, for a much more meaningful MA
https://i.imgur.com/rOWupfm.png

If we break above 0.011, I believe this was a false breakdown
https://i.imgur.com/34Hn11r.png

When trading, there's also a couple other things to consider:
- The order book on the buy side, which is quite nice.
- Then there's the fundamental side for the trade (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GACaNvBlwc (https://bitcointalk.org/watch?v=0GACaNvBlwc), The budget system and governance system? Plus everything we're about to do)
 
Away, that was fun.... back to coding


When called out on what a bad trade this was:



I gave a condition for my trade and it didn't confirm.

Anyway, I'm still buying.  ;)


Now why would he need to buy coins on an exchange at all when by his own admission the DASH team is selling coins OTC ?

Furthermore, by buying his coins on the exchange rather than OTC through his accomplice Minotaur26, are we to understand that eduffield does not wish to contribute to the "ongoing expenses and promotion" of DASH?



TL;DR - Summary of events:


Sept 15 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12433263#msg12433263): Coin's founder begins posting pump/hype statements like "Finally got my money to the exchange" as if inviting the public to take advantage of an opportunity to front-run a bull with insider info.

Sept 16 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12439294#msg12439294): Coin's founder continues pump/hype with self-serving, faulty TA.

Sept 18 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12453042#msg12453042): Coin's founder advertises OTC coins for sale, on an ongoing basis, from the coin's official website.  Why he's using market rather than OTC buys (which directly benefit his coin) is not disclosed.

Oct 4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12599484#msg12599484): Coin's founder advertises he's still buying...


Note: This summary does not mention specific names, to make it clear that such actions would be outrageous no matter the particular coin/dev involved.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to fraud allegations
Post by: Hazard on October 25, 2015, 04:36:43 PM
Coin has been a scam since day 1... No idea why people are still invested in this. Greed blinds, I suppose.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: smoothie on October 25, 2015, 10:45:27 PM
Much of the double talk I would like to hear Evan address as he is a public figure in the DASh community.

He said he would take responsibility for the instamine but when I asked him to take responsibility via posting that "DASH was instamined" on their main forum front page and the main page of their thread he has yet to do so.

Lots of shadiness surrounding Mr. Evan Duffield.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: illodin on October 25, 2015, 11:08:05 PM
Lots of shadiness surrounding Mr. Evan Duffield.

Yes he must be the shadiest of them all to justify that much energy being spent on him. And 99% of the people spending that energy are the coattail riders with little brother syndrome from one specific altcoin trying to control everything going on in the scene that doesn't conform to their socialist "fair launch" ideology.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: smoothie on October 26, 2015, 12:07:54 AM
Lots of shadiness surrounding Mr. Evan Duffield.

Yes he must be the shadiest of them all to justify that much energy being spent on him. And 99% of the people spending that energy are the coattail riders with little brother syndrome from one specific altcoin trying to control everything going on in the scene that doesn't conform to their socialist "fair launch" ideology.

Yes we believe in different things.

Our realities are very different.

Well I'm not against instamining coins or premining them. <---- Personally I would never buy these.

But if you are going to call it a feature then own up to it in every way possible and stop dodging the topic like Mr. Duff has done.



Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: obit33 on October 27, 2015, 12:59:25 PM
The only people still proclaiming Dash is not a scam are people (heavily) invested in it... It shows what greed can do with the human species... Even when you show them an enormous amount of evidence, they will still deny it when it goes against their financial interests...

anywayz, no use wasting any more energy on this proven (how many times now?) scam...


best regards


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: BitHappy24 on October 27, 2015, 01:06:10 PM

Waw that doesn't look good.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: dnaleor on October 27, 2015, 01:40:51 PM
The only people still proclaiming Dash is not a scam are people (heavily) invested in it... It shows what greed can do with the human species... Even when you show them an enormous amount of evidence, they will still deny it when it goes against their financial interests...

anywayz, no use wasting any more energy on this proven (how many times now?) scam...


best regards

or bribed...
Recently they spoke at Bitcoin Wednesday and paid 1250 EUR for the "partnership"


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: wildduck on October 27, 2015, 01:45:53 PM
Scam or not i made money from it :)


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: cinnamon_carter on October 28, 2015, 04:02:47 AM
if you think charts are the answer to resolve this i think you should consider

1) the launch

2) check out the source code

3) consider that this project was partially closed source at one time

4) research the weakness of 'chaining' 11 algorithms together from a security/cryptography standpoint

dark ?

ho thank you /


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: stealth923 on October 28, 2015, 05:19:40 AM
You Monero trolls are funny - you must be getting sore fingers from typing the same thing over and over.

Keep up the trolling - I want AT LEAST 200 dash troll posts a day as the new benchmark with new and innovative comments, you are all getting sloppy.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: Spoetnik on October 28, 2015, 05:41:52 AM
Scam or not i made money from it :)

Famous last words around here.. let me know how that works out for you long term smart guy LOL


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: tokeweed on October 28, 2015, 05:52:24 AM

Triple top!  ROFLOLMAO!!!


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: tokeweed on October 28, 2015, 05:54:36 AM



I gave a condition for my trade and it didn't confirm.

Anyway, I'm still buying.  ;)



Woooow.  Really?  He said that?  I bet they were trying to manipulate the market...

You gotta be the genius Karpeles to pull off 1 to 1000.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: toknormal on October 28, 2015, 08:52:04 AM

The only people still proclaiming Dash is not a scam are people (heavily) invested in it...

Presumably, those are the very same people who have been 'scammed'  ::)

The reality is that Dash is probably the single single biggest contender for real-world adoption after bitcoin and that is why it attracts so much troll-attention from butthurt thumb-twiddlers with nothing better to do such as those found in this thread.

The reason for its success has nothing to do with its beginnings and everything to do with the fact that it puts the implementation of all the properties of cash (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12638377#msg12638377) at forefront of its development priorities.

Then there's the fact that it is uniquely able to lever so much of the bitcoin technology stack while at the same time deploying its 3000-and-counting string masternode network (http://178.254.18.153/~pub/masternode_count.png) to universally support fungibility across the whole coin supply (as opposed to bitcoin's boilerplated solutions). That means user-oriented assets such as the newly completed Dash electrum wallet (https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-electrum-release-v0-2-4-1.6497/), payment processors (https://www.dashpay.io/payment-processors/), mobile solutions (https://i.imgur.com/776Cx82.jpg) and quality independent blockchain services (https://www.dashwhale.org).

Say what you like about the masternode approach - it's delivering (https://i.imgur.com/1jYf3Wh.png), and doing so without all the comprimises that are plaguing mono-layer cryptos right now. Privacy without recourse to obscurity or sidechains, scaleability without recourse to messing with blocksize, confirmation time without recourse to blocktime. That's aside from supporting a decentralised governance strategy that's in place, delivering results and totally consistent with a trust-free peer-to-peer philosophy.

Also, while you folk are rattling around in your troll-cans, remember not to talk about the fact that Dash has established a front-loading strategy for adoption (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12549331#msg12549331) which has its roots in solid industrial sectors such as energy.

Meanwhile, the subject of your 'scam' accusations - far from swaning off to the Caribbean two weeks after launch - has probably turned out to be one of the most hard working and innovative devs in cryptocurrency because unlike other devs he understands the nature of MONEY. That dedication has now delivered a roadmap for the next 18 months (https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-team-at-bitcoin-wednesday-amsterdam-presentation.6287/page-3) worthy of the one that has just been delivered upon.

So in conclusion, if you see yourselves as butthurt Dash-haters and are desperate to further your agenda - keep chewing on that "instamine" bone. If there's any meat left on it your sure gonna need it  ;)



Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: wildduck on October 28, 2015, 10:07:55 AM
Scam or not i made money from it :)

Famous last words around here.. let me know how that works out for you long term smart guy LOL

No long turn mate, i made money and i`m no longer in dash :D


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: smoothie on October 28, 2015, 10:10:35 AM

I know yeah? And now look what the price looks like:

https://i.imgur.com/fc0ef3Fh.png


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: obit33 on October 28, 2015, 10:17:17 AM

The only people still proclaiming Dash is not a scam are people (heavily) invested in it...

Presumably, those are the very same people who have been 'scammed' LoL.


Blinded by greed indeed, but no worries, Evan is still buying... while selling OTC...

Lol...


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to fraud allegations
Post by: EastKing on October 28, 2015, 11:09:22 AM
Coin has been a scam since day 1... No idea why people are still invested in this. Greed blinds, I suppose.

I have the same feeling it is a scam coin from first day. However, it is still developed actively. That could the reason why people still support it.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: Tinkles on October 28, 2015, 01:40:42 PM



I gave a condition for my trade and it didn't confirm.

Anyway, I'm still buying.  ;)



Woooow.  Really?  He said that?  I bet they were trying to manipulate the market...

You gotta be the genius Karpeles to pull off 1 to 1000.

no toke, the OP is the paid troll from the Dash thread, check it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=216500;sa=showPosts

Plus, alt scams are when the dev dumps.  Dash dev is still here 2 years later, huh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jw5Gk-iuy0



Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: toknormal on October 28, 2015, 01:43:43 PM

Please take a few minutes and read the original post. Hint: It's not about the instamine.

Ah, you branched out ? Congratulations - have a biscuit.

But I think I might stick with my original reply (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1220204.msg12808052#msg12808052) since variations on a theme were already covered. You sure do a good line in one-man echo chambers (https://i.imgur.com/KZfawNE.png) though.



Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: obit33 on October 28, 2015, 03:43:24 PM

Please take a few minutes and read the original post. Hint: It's not about the instamine.

Ah, you branched out ? Congratulations - have a biscuit.


Yeah, there was already a bigass scamtree, now it has a bigass scambranch too, I suspect it might grow scamleaves and even have some scambabies too the way things are going... now please, explain to me cuz I'm obviously to retarded to understand: Why is Evan buying Dash on the open market while selling Dash Over The Counter?????

Thanks in advance, oh enlightened wise one!






Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: stonehedge on October 28, 2015, 03:54:04 PM

Please take a few minutes and read the original post. Hint: It's not about the instamine.

Ah, you branched out ? Congratulations - have a biscuit.


Yeah, there was already a bigass scamtree, now it has a bigass scambranch too, I suspect it might grow scamleaves and even have some scambabies too the way things are going... now please, explain to me cuz I'm obviously to retarded to understand: Why is Evan buying Dash on the open market while selling Dash Over The Counter?????

Thanks in advance, oh enlightened wise one!






I haven't seen anything that explicitly states that Evan is selling Dash OTC.  I thought that the Dash Foundation is offering to sell OTC. 


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: noobtrader on October 28, 2015, 04:05:02 PM
the number of troll post in this thread is unbelieveable... posting all possible fud and  accusation  :o


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: sundowner on October 28, 2015, 04:15:21 PM
Quote
our marketing team was looking for other OTC buyers

Dash isn't one person. The dev was probably wanting to trade on an exchange, maybe he wanted to day trade.
And OTC is usually for large buys.
Weak ass thread.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: iCEBREAKER on October 28, 2015, 04:19:09 PM
The following has been brought to the attention of the DASH core team several times and has been categorically ignored.
 

Here is eduffield posting about how the DASH team have as much DASH for sale as you could possibly want OTC. If you're not interested now, don't worry. You can join the mailing list!


our marketing team was looking for other OTC buyers. If you're interested in getting some extra Dash and helping out at the same time, this is a great way to do it. Contact daniel@dashpay.io if you're interested.

If you're not interested right now, but you might be in the future please also email daniel@dashpay.io and he will add you to the mailing list. This is going to be the ongoing way expenses are paid for to promote dash.

Finally got my money to the exchange  ;)

I'm seeing all sorts of stuff happening in the charts all at once, which is a great sign when you see a bunch of bullish formations at once. This is how I used to day trade for my firm back in the day. The general idea here is you go from the shortest time period, then you walk out to the longest. If you see bullish or bearish signals in all of the charts at once, it's quite meaningful.

Now why would he need to buy coins on an exchange at all when by his own admission the DASH team is selling coins OTC ?


This is quite a scandal.  The appearance of impropriety is overwhelming (and par for the Dash course).

Maybe he bought exchange coins instead of OTC to prop the price/volume up?

Could you rearrange the OP in chronological order to make it more of a normal timeline?

As it is, it may be a bit unclear for those not well-versed in the Dash scam.

A TL;DR version is required for the ADHD types.

Here, I'll start.

Sept 15 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12433263#msg12433263): Coin's founder begins posting pump/hype statements like "Finally got my money to the exchange" as if inviting the public to take advantage of an opportunity to front-run a bull with insider info.

Sept 16 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12439294#msg12439294): Coin's founder continues pump/hype with self-serving, faulty TA.

Sept 17 (http://Sept 17): Coin's founder advertises OTC coins for sale, on an ongoing basis, from the coin's official website.  Why he's using market rather than OTC buys (which directly benefit his coin) is not disclosed.


This summary does not mention specific names, to make it clear that such actions would be outrageous no matter the particular coin/dev involved.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: patrolman on October 28, 2015, 04:31:32 PM
Oh look! It's another anti-Dash circle jerk.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: noobtrader on October 28, 2015, 04:54:19 PM
i wonder how this kind of toxic thread can help monero cause ?

i dont think attack and spam other coin will give good result, i  sold all my monero  when i read some core supporter of this coin launching black campaign against other coin like NXT, VNL, DASH.  



Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: iCEBREAKER on October 28, 2015, 05:04:02 PM
Oh look! It's another anti-Dash circle jerk.

Evan has been invited to show up and give us a Duffsplanation for his shady pump-pump-dump shenanigans.

So far, only crickets (and angry cultists whining about tu quoquo).


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: iCEBREAKER on October 28, 2015, 05:07:45 PM
i wonder how this kind of toxic thread can help monero cause ?

i dont think attack and spam other coin will give good result, i  sold all my monero  when i read some core supporter of this coin launching black campaign against other coin like NXT, VNL, DASH.  

Responding to criticism of Dash's developer with criticism of another coin is a logical fallacy.

Didn't they teach you about tu quoquo in high school?

No?  Small wonder you fell prey to the Dash cult programming.  It's a danger all you low-information types must avoid!


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: AdamWhite on October 30, 2015, 05:16:29 PM

Yeah, there was already a bigass scamtree, now it has a bigass scambranch too, I suspect it might grow scamleaves and even have some scambabies too the way things are going... now please, explain to me cuz I'm obviously to retarded to understand: Why is Evan buying Dash on the open market while selling Dash Over The Counter?????

Thanks in advance, oh enlightened wise one!



toknormal hasn't come back around to clarify this point.. he must have forgot about it!

Looking forward to an official response from the DASH team since there's obviously nothing shady going on here.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: limaphii on October 31, 2015, 02:15:41 AM
As a fan of alts, and this is  my opinion, DASH is a great coin. The majority of other coins pale on comparison from top to bottom, Tech to community. I would like to say that I hope DASH keeps up the good work. Ive seen alot of progress in DASH in the last year. Its undeniable


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: AdamWhite on October 31, 2015, 02:47:49 AM
DASH has been a well-orchestrated scam since the very beginning


https://i.imgur.com/CrKgFUU.png


Small wonder its on its 3rd name change in less than 2 years.. the dirt keeps getting exposed and they keep trying to cover it up.

"0.0000000% Pre-mined"  ::)


https://i.imgur.com/xuPzGcQ.jpg


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: AdamWhite on October 31, 2015, 02:53:38 AM
As a fan of alts, and this is  my opinion, DASH is a great coin. The majority of other coins pale on comparison from top to bottom, Tech to community. I would like to say that I hope DASH keeps up the good work. Ive seen alot of progress in DASH in the last year. Its undeniable


I'm interested in what you have to say about the actual thread topic, any opinions?


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: limaphii on October 31, 2015, 06:08:35 AM
It doesnt bother me. Theres way worse out there profiting using more dubious ways. Since the pre mine Dash has developed into a terrific currency. Just my personal opinion.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: smoothie on October 31, 2015, 09:16:40 AM
It doesnt bother me. Theres way worse out there profiting using more dubious ways. Since the pre mine Dash has developed into a terrific currency. Just my personal opinion.

Is your opinion based on underlying technical mechanisms that dash utilizes or are you just repeating what you heard?


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: smoothie on October 31, 2015, 09:18:53 AM
the number of troll post in this thread is unbelieveable... posting all possible fud and  accusation  :o


I shouldn't have to point out that the OP is a collection of posts made by eduffield and Minotaur26. Calling it FUD is simply laughable.

FUD = Facts Undermining Dash


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: limaphii on November 01, 2015, 07:39:05 PM
It doesnt bother me. Theres way worse out there profiting using more dubious ways. Since the pre mine Dash has developed into a terrific currency. Just my personal opinion.

Is your opinion based on underlying technical mechanisms that dash utilizes or are you just repeating what you heard?

No its based on my personal experience with it. I just like what they have done over the last year. That is when I personally became an alts enthusiast.  I like the tech from top to bottom. I think it also can have real world day to day usage if they can manage to adopt it on every platform and device.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: smoothie on November 01, 2015, 08:28:15 PM
It doesnt bother me. Theres way worse out there profiting using more dubious ways. Since the pre mine Dash has developed into a terrific currency. Just my personal opinion.

Is your opinion based on underlying technical mechanisms that dash utilizes or are you just repeating what you heard?

No its based on my personal experience with it. I just like what they have done over the last year. That is when I personally became an alts enthusiast.  I like the tech from top to bottom. I think it also can have real world day to day usage if they can manage to adopt it on every platform and device.

Exactly what part of the tech do you like?


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: limaphii on November 02, 2015, 01:54:10 AM
What are you a reporter? Geeze. Since you know all the horrible things of DASH do you what, ignore what it does? No I doubt it. Im pretty sure you know everything about it.

I love the different uses in wallet. Darksend is great if you want to send funds anonymously.
I like instantX which I have used with my buddy a few times.
Love the masternode setup last year.

I personally love X11 coins. The coin I dev is X11. He did create it so yeah I have a soft spot there Im sure.
I no longer mine it but dark wave seems beneficial too.

Anything else?  ::)



Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: smoothie on November 02, 2015, 04:43:41 AM
What are you a reporter? Geeze. Since you know all the horrible things of DASH do you what, ignore what it does? No I doubt it. Im pretty sure you know everything about it.

I love the different uses in wallet. Darksend is great if you want to send funds anonymously.
I like instantX which I have used with my buddy a few times.
Love the masternode setup last year.

I personally love X11 coins. The coin I dev is X11. He did create it so yeah I have a soft spot there Im sure.
I no longer mine it but dark wave seems beneficial too.

Anything else?  ::)



I'm pretty sure you can't read minds so please leave your ego at the door along with your assumptions of my motives or what I know or do not know.

My question was an actually serious one.

Obviously you think that any question asked of you is trolling for you to respond in such a hostile way.

 ::)


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: limaphii on November 02, 2015, 10:49:19 PM
yes I did. I apologize for the assumption. Used to nothing but trolls. No ego. Im just an enthusiast and mild trader. But I do personally believe DASH is at the top of the heap of shit coins.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: dnaleor on November 03, 2015, 01:47:11 AM
yes I did. I apologize for the assumption. Used to nothing but trolls. No ego. Im just an enthusiast and mild trader. But I do personally believe DASH is at the top of the heap of shit coins.

Agreed.

Monero isn't on top of the shit pile. We are in the "yet to be discovered but very promising tech" box.
It's like schrodinger's cat... As long as regulation isn't cracking down on BTC, almost nobody except the XMR community itself will know if XMR is a useful tech or not, but once the cat is out of the box (lol) everybody will see we are alive and kicking and ready to take over.



Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: DrkLvr_ on November 13, 2015, 12:53:44 AM

Please take a few minutes and read the original post. Hint: It's not about the instamine.

Ah, you branched out ? Congratulations - have a biscuit.


Yeah, there was already a bigass scamtree, now it has a bigass scambranch too, I suspect it might grow scamleaves and even have some scambabies too the way things are going... now please, explain to me cuz I'm obviously to retarded to understand: Why is Evan buying Dash on the open market while selling Dash Over The Counter?????

Thanks in advance, oh enlightened wise one!







How shocking is it that toknormal hasn't come back to answer this question? It's almost as though he's trying to avoid it.

Could be a great question for Evan and the team in Miami.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: illodin on November 13, 2015, 02:22:11 AM
AdamWhite DrkLvr_ getting angry his questions aren't being answered. :(

https://images.essentialtravel.co.uk/et-magazine/travel-questions/baby-crying.jpg


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: DrkLvr_ on November 13, 2015, 02:27:08 AM
Hope to see you in Miami illospin  ;D

Btw i know your hobby is spinning things, but even YOU can see clearly that I didn't ask the question and neither did Adam White... looks like obit33 asked the question.


Title: Re: DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: iCEBREAKER on November 22, 2015, 01:05:49 AM
the number of troll post in this thread is unbelieveable... posting all possible fud and  accusation  :o


I shouldn't have to point out that the OP is a collection of posts made by eduffield and Minotaur26. Calling it FUD is simply laughable.

FUD = Facts Undermining Dash

DASH = Digital Avarice Scamming Humanity


Title: Re: OTCgate scandal - DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: drgonzo87 on December 09, 2015, 10:41:27 PM
Don't like Dash? Don't use it. Problem solved.

No need to thank me.


Title: Re: OTCgate scandal - DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: iCEBREAKER on December 10, 2015, 12:15:44 AM
The following has been brought to the attention of the DASH core team several times and has been categorically ignored.
 
TL;DR - Summary of events:


Sept 15 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12433263#msg12433263): Coin's founder begins posting pump/hype statements like "Finally got my money to the exchange" as if inviting the public to take advantage of an opportunity to front-run a bull with insider info.

Sept 16 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12439294#msg12439294): Coin's founder continues pump/hype with self-serving, faulty TA.

Sept 18 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12453042#msg12453042): Coin's founder advertises OTC coins for sale, on an ongoing basis, from the coin's official website.  Why he's using market rather than OTC buys (which directly benefit his coin) is not disclosed.

Oct 4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12599484#msg12599484): Coin's founder advertises he's still buying...


Note: This summary does not mention specific names, to make it clear that such actions would be outrageous no matter the particular coin/dev involved.

Unbelievable.  Why would anyone use a coin created by such an obvious charlatan?


Title: Re: OTCgate scandal - DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: NoiseBoy on November 07, 2017, 07:33:16 PM
Wow, way to bump a post from 2015. You must have spent some serious time digging for that one!

In other news, Dash Market Cap now > $2billion


Title: Re: OTCgate scandal - DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: iCEBREAKER on November 14, 2017, 02:38:28 AM
Wow, way to bump a post from 2015. You must have spent some serious time digging for that one!

In other news, Dash Market Cap now > $2billion


So what?  Are you using market cap to imply Dash is not an Instamined scam?

Do you also shill for Bitconnect and Paycoin, two other scams with high market caps?

What about Madoff Investments?  Do you really think past performance guarantees future returns? ;D

Isn't it sketchy that nobody has heard what happened to all that money since it was gathered in 2015?

Where is the update with the ROI analysis for this project?  The only update I see is that Minotaur has run away and DashCore spun the job abandonment as a "sabbatical."


Title: Re: OTCgate scandal - DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: bigrcanada1 on November 14, 2017, 04:28:15 AM
Wow, way to bump a post from 2015. You must have spent some serious time digging for that one!

In other news, Dash Market Cap now > $2billion


So what?  Are you using market cap to imply Dash is not an Instamined scam?

Do you also shill for Bitconnect and Paycoin, two other scams with high market caps?

What about Madoff Investments?  Do you really think past performance guarantees future returns? ;D

Isn't it sketchy that nobody has heard what happened to all that money since it was gathered in 2015?

Where is the update with the ROI analysis for this project?  The only update I see is that Minotaur has run away and DashCore spun the job abandonment as a "sabbatical."

HEY....and there is our favorite troll!  Man...we've been missing all your BS, FUD and trolling activities over on the DASH channel.  :(

Geez...I just found out some cool things about you and your original love for DASH.  tsk tsk.  ;)


Title: Re: OTCgate scandal - DASH developers refusing to respond to allegations
Post by: noobtrader on November 21, 2017, 12:53:19 PM
Wow, way to bump a post from 2015. You must have spent some serious time digging for that one!

In other news, Dash Market Cap now > $2billion


So what?  Are you using market cap to imply Dash is not an Instamined scam?

Do you also shill for Bitconnect and Paycoin, two other scams with high market caps?

What about Madoff Investments?  Do you really think past performance guarantees future returns? ;D

Isn't it sketchy that nobody has heard what happened to all that money since it was gathered in 2015?

Where is the update with the ROI analysis for this project?  The only update I see is that Minotaur has run away and DashCore spun the job abandonment as a "sabbatical."

HEY....and there is our favorite troll!  Man...we've been missing all your BS, FUD and trolling activities over on the DASH channel.  :(

Geez...I just found out some cool things about you and your original love for DASH.  tsk tsk.  ;)



oh... is this the post that show icebreaker's hidden love for dash ?

Wow.. the return of iCEBREAKER!  We are truly honoured.

Where've you been for months?  How was Monaco, or was it St Tropez?

Aww shucks old bean, I'm touched in a manner most poignant by your notice of my extended absence.   :'(

I've been on an altcoin sabbatical.  Missing the Darkcoin boat made me realize my focus had been too concentrated on Bitcoin, to the neglect of other disruptive innovations in cryptospace.  So I went back to school, learning about cloud mining Monero and Cryptonite, and giving the other ostensibly anon coins (DRK/CLOAK/XC/BC/VERT) a thorough looking over.

How is Cointerra doing financially?  We are both investors; you through private placement and myself through IceDrill.

Is it likely a Cointerra creditor will file for Chapter 7?  Maybe IceDrill will wind up owning both firms' IP and inventory!


Crikey all this butt hurt because he missed the boat?  :o