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October 25, 2015, 02:28:28 PM
Last edit: November 21, 2015, 03:39:20 PM by AdamWhite
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The following has been brought to the attention of the DASH core team several times and has been categorically ignored.
 

Here is eduffield posting about how the DASH team have as much DASH for sale as you could possibly want OTC. If you're not interested now, don't worry. You can join the mailing list!


Hello Everyone

We're making great progress with PR and our marketing team was looking for other OTC buyers. If you're interested in getting some extra Dash and helping out at the same time, this is a great way to do it. Contact daniel@dashpay.io if you're interested.

If you're not interested right now, but you might be in the future please also email daniel@dashpay.io and he will add you to the mailing list. This is going to be the ongoing way expenses are paid for to promote dash.

Thanks!

DCT Thread : https://dashtalk.org/threads/opening-otc-trading-to-community.6173


daniel@dashpay.io is Minotaur26, you might remember him from his shill post recommending DASH as a buy at over 0.012+. At the same time, eduffield is spamming the thread with "i'm buying!" along with his amateur hour "Technical Analysis":


Cute buy wall 32btc @.0101

Finally got my money to the exchange  Wink

I'm seeing all sorts of stuff happening in the charts all at once, which is a great sign when you see a bunch of bullish formations at once. This is how I used to day trade for my firm back in the day. The general idea here is you go from the shortest time period, then you walk out to the longest. If you see bullish or bearish signals in all of the charts at once, it's quite meaningful. Here's what I'm seeing:

On the really short term chart, there's a triple top:



Moving averages are crossing as we speak, so momentum is changing from negative to positive:


If you step out a bit, It looks like we're going to cross in a couple days, for a much more meaningful MA


If we break above 0.011, I believe this was a false breakdown


When trading, there's also a couple other things to consider:
- The order book on the buy side, which is quite nice.
- Then there's the fundamental side for the trade (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GACaNvBlwc, The budget system and governance system? Plus everything we're about to do)
 
Away, that was fun.... back to coding


When called out on what a bad trade this was:



I gave a condition for my trade and it didn't confirm.

Anyway, I'm still buying.  Wink


Now why would he need to buy coins on an exchange at all when by his own admission the DASH team is selling coins OTC ?

Furthermore, by buying his coins on the exchange rather than OTC through his accomplice Minotaur26, are we to understand that eduffield does not wish to contribute to the "ongoing expenses and promotion" of DASH?



TL;DR - Summary of events:


Sept 15: Coin's founder begins posting pump/hype statements like "Finally got my money to the exchange" as if inviting the public to take advantage of an opportunity to front-run a bull with insider info.

Sept 16: Coin's founder continues pump/hype with self-serving, faulty TA.

Sept 18: Coin's founder advertises OTC coins for sale, on an ongoing basis, from the coin's official website.  Why he's using market rather than OTC buys (which directly benefit his coin) is not disclosed.

Oct 4: Coin's founder advertises he's still buying...


Note: This summary does not mention specific names, to make it clear that such actions would be outrageous no matter the particular coin/dev involved.
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October 25, 2015, 04:36:43 PM
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Coin has been a scam since day 1... No idea why people are still invested in this. Greed blinds, I suppose.

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October 25, 2015, 10:45:27 PM
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Much of the double talk I would like to hear Evan address as he is a public figure in the DASh community.

He said he would take responsibility for the instamine but when I asked him to take responsibility via posting that "DASH was instamined" on their main forum front page and the main page of their thread he has yet to do so.

Lots of shadiness surrounding Mr. Evan Duffield.

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October 25, 2015, 11:08:05 PM
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Lots of shadiness surrounding Mr. Evan Duffield.

Yes he must be the shadiest of them all to justify that much energy being spent on him. And 99% of the people spending that energy are the coattail riders with little brother syndrome from one specific altcoin trying to control everything going on in the scene that doesn't conform to their socialist "fair launch" ideology.
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October 26, 2015, 12:07:54 AM
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Lots of shadiness surrounding Mr. Evan Duffield.

Yes he must be the shadiest of them all to justify that much energy being spent on him. And 99% of the people spending that energy are the coattail riders with little brother syndrome from one specific altcoin trying to control everything going on in the scene that doesn't conform to their socialist "fair launch" ideology.

Yes we believe in different things.

Our realities are very different.

Well I'm not against instamining coins or premining them. <---- Personally I would never buy these.

But if you are going to call it a feature then own up to it in every way possible and stop dodging the topic like Mr. Duff has done.


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October 27, 2015, 12:59:25 PM
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The only people still proclaiming Dash is not a scam are people (heavily) invested in it... It shows what greed can do with the human species... Even when you show them an enormous amount of evidence, they will still deny it when it goes against their financial interests...

anywayz, no use wasting any more energy on this proven (how many times now?) scam...


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Waw that doesn't look good.
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The only people still proclaiming Dash is not a scam are people (heavily) invested in it... It shows what greed can do with the human species... Even when you show them an enormous amount of evidence, they will still deny it when it goes against their financial interests...

anywayz, no use wasting any more energy on this proven (how many times now?) scam...


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or bribed...
Recently they spoke at Bitcoin Wednesday and paid 1250 EUR for the "partnership"
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Scam or not i made money from it Smiley
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October 28, 2015, 04:02:47 AM
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if you think charts are the answer to resolve this i think you should consider

1) the launch

2) check out the source code

3) consider that this project was partially closed source at one time

4) research the weakness of 'chaining' 11 algorithms together from a security/cryptography standpoint

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October 28, 2015, 05:19:40 AM
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You Monero trolls are funny - you must be getting sore fingers from typing the same thing over and over.

Keep up the trolling - I want AT LEAST 200 dash troll posts a day as the new benchmark with new and innovative comments, you are all getting sloppy.
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October 28, 2015, 05:41:52 AM
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Scam or not i made money from it Smiley

Famous last words around here.. let me know how that works out for you long term smart guy LOL

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October 28, 2015, 05:52:24 AM
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Triple top!  ROFLOLMAO!!!

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I gave a condition for my trade and it didn't confirm.

Anyway, I'm still buying.  Wink



Woooow.  Really?  He said that?  I bet they were trying to manipulate the market...

You gotta be the genius Karpeles to pull off 1 to 1000.

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The only people still proclaiming Dash is not a scam are people (heavily) invested in it...

Presumably, those are the very same people who have been 'scammed'  Roll Eyes

The reality is that Dash is probably the single single biggest contender for real-world adoption after bitcoin and that is why it attracts so much troll-attention from butthurt thumb-twiddlers with nothing better to do such as those found in this thread.

The reason for its success has nothing to do with its beginnings and everything to do with the fact that it puts the implementation of all the properties of cash at forefront of its development priorities.

Then there's the fact that it is uniquely able to lever so much of the bitcoin technology stack while at the same time deploying its 3000-and-counting string masternode network to universally support fungibility across the whole coin supply (as opposed to bitcoin's boilerplated solutions). That means user-oriented assets such as the newly completed Dash electrum wallet, payment processors, mobile solutions and quality independent blockchain services.

Say what you like about the masternode approach - it's delivering, and doing so without all the comprimises that are plaguing mono-layer cryptos right now. Privacy without recourse to obscurity or sidechains, scaleability without recourse to messing with blocksize, confirmation time without recourse to blocktime. That's aside from supporting a decentralised governance strategy that's in place, delivering results and totally consistent with a trust-free peer-to-peer philosophy.

Also, while you folk are rattling around in your troll-cans, remember not to talk about the fact that Dash has established a front-loading strategy for adoption which has its roots in solid industrial sectors such as energy.

Meanwhile, the subject of your 'scam' accusations - far from swaning off to the Caribbean two weeks after launch - has probably turned out to be one of the most hard working and innovative devs in cryptocurrency because unlike other devs he understands the nature of MONEY. That dedication has now delivered a roadmap for the next 18 months worthy of the one that has just been delivered upon.

So in conclusion, if you see yourselves as butthurt Dash-haters and are desperate to further your agenda - keep chewing on that "instamine" bone. If there's any meat left on it your sure gonna need it  Wink

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October 28, 2015, 10:07:55 AM
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Scam or not i made money from it Smiley

Famous last words around here.. let me know how that works out for you long term smart guy LOL

No long turn mate, i made money and i`m no longer in dash Cheesy
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October 28, 2015, 10:10:35 AM
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October 28, 2015, 10:17:17 AM
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The only people still proclaiming Dash is not a scam are people (heavily) invested in it...

Presumably, those are the very same people who have been 'scammed' LoL.


Blinded by greed indeed, but no worries, Evan is still buying... while selling OTC...

Lol...
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October 28, 2015, 11:09:22 AM
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Coin has been a scam since day 1... No idea why people are still invested in this. Greed blinds, I suppose.

I have the same feeling it is a scam coin from first day. However, it is still developed actively. That could the reason why people still support it.
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October 28, 2015, 01:40:42 PM
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I gave a condition for my trade and it didn't confirm.

Anyway, I'm still buying.  Wink



Woooow.  Really?  He said that?  I bet they were trying to manipulate the market...

You gotta be the genius Karpeles to pull off 1 to 1000.

no toke, the OP is the paid troll from the Dash thread, check it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=216500;sa=showPosts

Plus, alt scams are when the dev dumps.  Dash dev is still here 2 years later, huh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jw5Gk-iuy0

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