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Yeah, I can't progress past part one when trying to order.

Any chance of just putting all prices in terms of Bitcoin as well as dollars?

Do you have more than $1,000 in your basket?  (This is the current order minimum durring beta)



This should be live by tomorrow.

Yes, I added a computer just to get above the $1k mark. I wasn't going to buy anything yet. I just wanted to see the checkout total with Bitcoin. =)

So the problem was solved as soon as you had the $1000 in your cart?

Yes if you have > $1000 it will let you checkout.  As of now, the bitcoin rate is not pulled until you get all the way down to the bottom of the form (Step 6) and click Place Order.

Would like to see brand names in the links on the browse pages. Hard to navigate things that are just generically named like "20 inch monitor...".

YES!!

Meh. How about we just get that bitcoin debit card already and then buy direct from Amazon.

- Restless bitcoin mob

In order to maintain these competitive prices, I will need to sell more than $800K USD worth of goods per quarter,  so please place your orders and help spread the word!

This looked really exciting to me until I visited the shipping methods page of Memory Dealers http://memorydealers.com/shipping-rates/ (http://memorydealers.com/shipping-rates/) when it becomes a clear no deal for me. The reason is you do not offer and advertise the US Postal Service as a shipping option to your customers. Let me explain:

When it comes to international and residential package delivery the private shipping companies simply do not get it here in Canada. I have seen UPS charge a $50 brokerage fee to broker a $3.50 GST charge at the border on an Item that cost $50. This got so bad the there was a class action lawsuit in Canada against UPS over this. http://www.classaction.ca/actions/Consumer-Protection/Current-Actions/United-Parcel-Service-Canada-Ltd-%28-UPS-%29.aspx (http://www.classaction.ca/actions/Consumer-Protection/Current-Actions/United-Parcel-Service-Canada-Ltd-%28-UPS-%29.aspx). They have now changed their fees somewhat after the litigation but they are sill far to high. Canada Post charges a flat fee of $8.50 for brokerage. http://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/PGcustoms-e.asp#1382719 (http://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/PGcustoms-e.asp#1382719). That is it

Then there is the issue of delivery to a residential address especially in the smaller centers. With Canada Post if I am not home I get a notice in my mailbox and I can go to a retail outlet in my neighborhood to pick up my package. This is simple and very convenient as these outlets are typically open evenings and weekends.  With private couriers I may get a phone call or in some cases I have to contact them using the tracking information provided by the shipper. Then to arrange for delivery I have to either spend all day waiting of the courier to arrive or drive to some office in the outskirts of town, or in some cases in another community a few hundred miles away, open only from 8:30 to 4:30 on weekdays to pick up my package. Private couriers are very good at delivering documents to a business that has a reception. They fail very badly with delivering packages to residential addresses, and are even worse with international shipments.

This may sound like a real hearsay to many in this community, but it must be said: When it comes to shipping items purchased with Bitcoin to residential customers the "State Postal Monopoly"  here in Canada http://www.canadapost.ca (http://www.canadapost.ca) does an excellent job, while the private sector fails miserably.

For me as a customer purchasing online it is very simple: Deliver using the Post Office or no sale.

Here are some examples regarding residential deliveries by private sector companies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Sb_r7BKTc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Sb_r7BKTc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikanns26nDA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikanns26nDA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APqvq0Kn55o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APqvq0Kn55o)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1qUd9na_PQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1qUd9na_PQ)

It's redirecting to the Magento Install script now:
http://www.bitcoinstore.com/index.php/install/

Which I'm fairly certain is something I should not have access to  ;D

It's redirecting to the Magento Install script now:
http://www.bitcoinstore.com/index.php/install/

Which I'm fairly certain is something I should not have access to  ;D

There has been an error processing your request

Exception printing is disabled by default for security reasons.

Error log record number: (random)

There is currently a $1,000 order minium during our beta launch.  (This will be removed soon)

I will buy some stuff once this is removed.

will you ship to Canada?

Congrat for the HackerNews frontpage! Wow! http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4737356

International shipping is still being worked on, disregard all the numbers currently.

great news indeed!  :)

the shop though.. feels rather alpha right now. stuff like filters not working etc. should be obvious at first glance. i think i will check again in a few weeks.
800k$ per quarter seems like a lot for such a small economy. i hope it works out.

International shipping is still being worked on, disregard all the numbers currently.

For now we are focusing the test on User Experience. this includes graphics user interface, search, categories, photos, product description and sorts, in addition to gather some stats on the site in general, keep them bug reports coming guys! bonus for screenshots.

If you want bitcoin to become really popular and valuable, it needs big merchants like Amazon to accept it directly.  If Amazon starts getting undercut on sales, they will notice, and they will look at ways to reduce their risk and cost of collecting payments online.  Bitcoin solves that problem, as Roger is about to demonstrate to the world.

Isn't this the same guy who bet $10k that bitcoin would outperform gold/silver by 100x by august of next year?

Amazon has nearly 70,000 employees --- if Roger Ver expects this to grow into more than a novelty shop, he will need investors.

I want to buy a Microsoft Surface with bitcoins.  Will you guys stock this item?

Are you aware of the fact that you will not be able to use Bitcoin with this device without first obtaining permission from Microsoft?

Ultimately you are probably right. But the current situation is that anyone can get a developers license for free together with Visual Studio 2012. So for the moment this would be an actual test of open-source-ness.

It is a Windows RT device, which means that all software for this device must be distributed via the Microsoft store. It is a closed censored ecosystem like Apple iPhone / iPad.

Well, I don't have an actual device itself, but my coworker has some evaluation unit from Korea. He is saying that it works exactly like Apple iOS devices except that the cost of development license is zero. On your own device, with your own developer license, you can run whatever you like.

This is why I said it would be a good test of open-source-ness: Satoshi Bitcoin client that anyone can build using free development tools (free as in free beer: Visual Studio 2012 Express). It would be a great experiment in portability and resilience of Bitcoin.

I'm not seeing any SSDs for sale via your site. Do you sell them? If not, can you add them to your inventory?

So one distributes the source code under a FLOSS license, provides instructions on downloading the free as in free beer Visual Studio 2012 Express and compiling the software and bingo the censorship is effectively bypassed. In other words one can have software freedom, but only if one compiles the software oneself. A very interesting idea.

There are several hundred SSD drives:

http://www.bitcoinstore.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=SSD (http://www.bitcoinstore.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=SSD)

I think on Monday I will be ready to lower the order minimum.

When you are ready with a fully-functional, attractive site. I have a marketing scheme idea for you.

1) Partner with TangibleCryptography, Bitinstant or another one of these cash deposit direct to bitcoin outlets.
2) Ask them to issue a coupon code for your store (say $100 off $1000). Coupons go to people who purchase $1000 worth of btc from them and who are first-time customers (I assume they do KYC to check this).
3) Eliminate coupon code sharing by requiring that the bitcoins used to make the purchase match the bitcoins purchased from the cash to bitcoin outlet
4) Identify a few popular items that you can offer competitive prices for.
5) Post the item and detailed bitcoin purchase, download, and coupon acquisition instructions on "slickdeals.net" Also post a price comparison vs. Amazon, newegg, etc.

Expect to lose some money off this. The goal is to get name recognition for the bitcoinstore + bitcoin acquisition methods in a very widely used deal forum.  
Ideally you can get the absolute cheapskates who populate slickdeals.net to regularly scan your site for new offers and post about them autonomously.

Presumably the name recognition will help your partner as well.

[I don't think you should do this until the site has been substantially upgraded. It looks a bit like a low-price scam site right now. (I mean that in the nicest possible way.)
Scam sites often involve purchasing hardware from foreign companies. These companies also ask for wire transfer, etc. less reversible methods of payment than credit cards.
Thus you have to improve your image]

When you are ready with a fully-functional, attractive site. I have a marketing scheme idea for you.

1) Partner with TangibleCryptography, Bitinstant or another one of these cash deposit direct to bitcoin outlets.
2) Ask them to issue a coupon code for your store (say $100 off $1000). Coupons go to people who purchase $1000 worth of btc from them and who are first-time customers (I assume they do KYC to check this).
3) Eliminate coupon code sharing by requiring that the bitcoins used to make the purchase match the bitcoins purchased from the cash to bitcoin outlet
4) Identify a few popular items that you can offer competitive prices for.
5) Post the item and detailed bitcoin purchase, download, and coupon acquisition instructions on "slickdeals.net" Also post a price comparison vs. Amazon, newegg, etc.

Expect to lose some money off this. The goal is to get name recognition for the bitcoinstore + bitcoin acquisition methods in a very widely used deal forum.  
Ideally you can get the absolute cheapskates who populate slickdeals.net to regularly scan your site for new offers and post about them autonomously.

Presumably the name recognition will help your partner as well.

[I don't think you should do this until the site has been substantially upgraded. It looks a bit like a low-price scam site right now. (I mean that in the nicest possible way.)
Scam sites often involve purchasing hardware from foreign companies. These companies also ask for wire transfer, etc. less reversible methods of payment than credit cards.
Thus you have to improve your image]

When you are ready with a fully-functional, attractive site. I have a marketing scheme idea for you.

1) Partner with TangibleCryptography, Bitinstant or another one of these cash deposit direct to bitcoin outlets.
2) Ask them to issue a coupon code for your store (say $100 off $1000). Coupons go to people who purchase $1000 worth of btc from them and who are first-time customers (I assume they do KYC to check this).
3) Eliminate coupon code sharing by requiring that the bitcoins used to make the purchase match the bitcoins purchased from the cash to bitcoin outlet
4) Identify a few popular items that you can offer competitive prices for.
5) Post the item and detailed bitcoin purchase, download, and coupon acquisition instructions on "slickdeals.net" Also post a price comparison vs. Amazon, newegg, etc.

Expect to lose some money off this. The goal is to get name recognition for the bitcoinstore + bitcoin acquisition methods in a very widely used deal forum.  
Ideally you can get the absolute cheapskates who populate slickdeals.net to regularly scan your site for new offers and post about them autonomously.

Presumably the name recognition will help your partner as well.

[I don't think you should do this until the site has been substantially upgraded. It looks a bit like a low-price scam site right now. (I mean that in the nicest possible way.)
Scam sites often involve purchasing hardware from foreign companies. These companies also ask for wire transfer, etc. less reversible methods of payment than credit cards.
Thus you have to improve your image]

For a Bitcoin only store it would be cool to implement some mouse-over effect to display the Ƀ-price of items or even better the $ on mouse-over.

(I'm eager to read about first people reporting their orders being processed with no problems and for shipping to Chile.)

BitcoinStore.com (http://BitcoinStore.com) is the world's first, Bitcoin only, super store.

Unfortunately it is not.

There was a Bitcoin superstore before, bitcoinz.ca, run by a fucker named awozny here on the forum, who delivered the first test-orders and ran off with our money when he got proper orders prepaid.

His real name is Anthony Wozny from Canada, has anyone ever heard from him again or could let me know where I could find him so I could physically let him experience what I think about scum like him?

Sorry, didn't mean to interrupt your thread but CNR :).

I am happy that you made this store and am looking forward to buying from you! :)

Joe

They really need to use USPS for international orders to deal with these outrageous shipping costs.

I want to buy a Microsoft Surface with bitcoins.  Will you guys stock this item?

For a Bitcoin only store it would be cool to implement some mouse-over effect to display the Ƀ-price of items or even better the $ on mouse-over.

On a related note you may wish to take places such as Cuba, North Korea, Iran etc. out of your country list if you do not wish to run afoul of legislation in the United States. Seriously.

Any plans on selling food on BitcoinStore? That would be awesome!

Would like to see brand names in the links on the browse pages. Hard to navigate things that are just generically named like "20 inch monitor...".

Price range links don't seem to work. In fact, categorization in general doesn't seem to be correct at all.

Meh. How about we just get that bitcoin debit card already and then buy direct from Amazon.

USPS will be an international shipping method very soon.  I already applied for the account and am just waiting to receive the API credentials from USPS. Hopefully it can be online within this week!


Yes,  this will be stocked soon.


Now prices for all items are displayed in BTC and USD


Done.  Thank you for the advice.


This is an interesting idea that I will look into,  but it wont be in the immediate future.


Still working on this,  but it will happen very soon.


Price range links are fixed.  If you have other categorization suggestions,  please post them here.


Because Bitcoinstore.com (http://Bitcoinstore.com) is cheaper than Amazon for lots of things,  and especially so after you consider the fees that will be involved in loading the card.


Thank you to everyone who has already placed an order!

Any plans to speed the site up? When I click on links, it takes a really long time before each page comes up.

Samsung 60" 120HZ LED TV
http://content.etilize.com/300/1021687337.jpg (http://www.bitcoinstore.com/displays/tv-displays/lcd-tv/samsung-un60eh6000-60-quot-1080p-led-lcd-tv-16-9-hdtv-1080p-240-hz.html)
BitcoinStore  (http://www.bitcoinstore.com/displays/tv-displays/lcd-tv/samsung-un60eh6000-60-quot-1080p-led-lcd-tv-16-9-hdtv-1080p-240-hz.html)$1,367.48

Please post your questions,  bug reports, and feature requests in the thread below.

That link gives me a 404.

Also why is it when you go to shipping it says there in a $1000 order minimum?

Also, when is shipping gonna get cheaper for International?  I'm keen :)

USPS International shipping options are now available.

For smaller shipments the rates appear to be about half that of FedEx.

http://i46.tinypic.com/14y0lxk.png

USPS International shipping options are now available.

I just got a quote for a $350 laptop

Federal Express
 International Priority $350.90
 International Economy $356.02

Those were the only options available :(

Can you provide the country and postal code along with the part numbers you were trying to order?
I am not currently able to reproduce your issue.
USPS currently shows as a shipping option.

Yes cheap Shipping to Australia  :D

btw can you ship a laptop via Express Mail International Flat Rate Envelope ?

there is no way under known laws of physics that a packaged, new laptop would fit in one of those envelopes. unless someone invented a TARDIS and i missed it.

Are you going to get Windows 8 tablets? That is what I want for Christmas.

any deals for cyber monday or black friday or thanksgiving?  Do you have access to the same promotions that best buy, tigerdirect get?  or are you not in that realm at this point?

I'd love to be able to pass along links to amazing deals to others and help them get bicoins to buy them!

no worries.  I wasn't sure who was taking the cut when discounts were offered.  I'll hold off on pushing bitcoinstore until a week or two from now, b/c I think the everyday low prices  will be much more appealing after the craziness of the next few days is past us.

Any happy-customer-stories yet?

Windows 8 Laptops and desktops are now on sale!

I'll try my question again: How about laptops without Windows?  Windows is an expensive piece malware I don't need, and I certainly don't want to pay for it.

http://system76.com

I once bought a laptop from Zareason. Turned out to be a bad idea; got charged like $200 extra taxes when the laptop arrived. I think BitcoinStore would be in a perfect position to get the paperwork behind the international shipping properly sorted out so stuff like that wouldn't happen, and if they start selling Linux (or no-OS) laptops I would gladly buy my next one from them.

No. No international store is responsible for the taxes due when packages arrive at your country. You're the one responsible for paying them. The only way they have to help you is if they lie on the value of the order(yeah, not happening).

I'll try my question again: How about laptops without Windows?  Windows is an expensive piece malware I don't need, and I certainly don't want to pay for it.

I have similar problems. I think less of any store that sells products that impose conditions on the user after sale. That includes proprietary software that you are not allowed to return (after finally being allowed to read the EULA), as well as computers bundled with Microsoft Windows or MacOS. However, it is not limited to that.

The world is moving from Copyright-based EULAs to Patent-based EULAs. These are stronger than copyright based EULAs because independent development is no longer a defence when selling a competing product. In fact, when you buy an Android phone, you are actually paying for a Windows Phone license (http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57320800-75/barnes-noble-wants-doj-probe-into-microsoft-patent-tactics/). With Windows 7, the Pre-amble in the ELUA was changed from "By clicking 'Agree', you agreee..." to "By using the computer you agree...". Windows is further tied to the compter by a separate manufacturer EULA that claims  that Windows is an Integral component; and that you must return the entire computer if you do not agree to the Windows EULA.

I was tempted by the printer in the OP, because I have been trying unsuccessfully to buy a Laser printer for nearly two years. However, my experience with Lexmark (http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=39046#p2458850) and HP (https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/207306) tell me it is no longer possible to buy a new printer with no strings attached. PCL 5 fonts and Cartridge recylcing program slip sounds to me like they may be using the Lexmark (Printing is a patented proccess) method.

I am not sure it is possible to sell half a million consumer electronic items while still respecting your customers. I fear things will get worse before they get better.

Very interesting info, but does any of this have to do with Bitcoinstore.com?  I'm assuming you could say the same thing about ANY computer store, yes?

Essentially. I think I was pointing out in a round-about way that no electronic super store can reasonably vet all of the products they sell against the whims of eccentrics like me. If you want Freedom, you will have trouble growing past the boutique level. Unfortunately, you lose economies of scale that way, since the free market assumes omnicient consumers in order to work. Put a different way, the marketplace rarely explains why good A has a lower price than good B.

I'll try my question again: How about laptops without Windows?  Windows is an expensive piece malware I don't need, and I certainly don't want to pay for it.

We respect you by giving you as many choices as we can. That's one form of freedom right there. I think the point you make about selecting boutique quality products is a good one as well. Perhaps we can incorporate a heavily curated "featured" selection. If you have any suggestions about which products should go in that selection, please let us know!

... In other news, Linux thin client here: http://www.bitcoinstore.com/wyse-desktop-slimline-thin-client-amd-t52r-1-50-ghz.html - I couldn't find a Linux laptop unfortunately. We are currently restricted in selection by our suppliers. I'm sure in a couple months time we will include more suppliers and more varied products.

I apologize about the lack of "free" laptops. I'm assuming you're a FSF member?

Thanks,
-Jon

I have always wondered where to get those: I see them in use, but they are not sold at local retailers. They are used on the floor at local retailers, but not available for sale :P

I guess what promped my mini-rant is that as I said, I am tempted by the Dell printer, but don't know if it tries to impose conditions on the user after sale. Does Dell try to claim ownership of the print cartridges? Are the print cartridges region-coded? Does the printer explicitly support PCL5? I have to ask these questions because I failed to during previous printer purchases: which resulted in returns. From a bad experience with a Canadian online retailer I otherwise like, I learned that they are not able to correct misleading or vague copy from the manufacturer. I assume this is also the case with your store.

I don't think I am formally a FSF member, but I do share their ideals. I have a "Free" laptop (Lemote YeeLoong). I have not gotten around to implementing 2D video accelaration yet. The drivers bundled with X.org assume a VESA BIOS :P
I managed to break the keyboard connector trying to take the thing appart, but I doubt the SMT component can be purchased in lots of less than 10,000.

I would love to go through and fact check the copy we get sent. But that'd be 500,000 products to check, with an estimated researching time of 10 minutes per product; we're talking about 3472.22 days of researching/updating. Obviously impractical. Can you paste the link to the specific printer you have your eye on?

We're still a small operation, but I can assure you that we'll do our best to do right by our customers.

I'm not a FSF member either, but I have friends who believe strongly in their ideals. I think they, like Bitcoin, still have a long way to go both internally and externally. Both groups see a future which is more efficient and even idealistic. Change is always a struggle though.

Thanks,
-Jon

Jon, I appreciate you reaching out to this guy, but it sounds like as I suspected, this is not a bitcoin issue.  Perhaps the value you are providing this guy will keep him as a customer, but I'm guessing every Best Buy/Amazon deals this this same issue and doesn't offer that service to their clients of reviewing copy, etc. 

Feel free to knock out this one situation/customer, but I'd prefer if you get back to focusing on selling the same electronic goods as Amazon, etc. for cheaper for bitcoin.  Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but that's your business model and should be your priority number 1.  There's nothing wrong with you focusing on that. 

If for some reason I run into a second person in this world looking for that boutique level of service (even tho this guy said those units are setup, but not for sale), then, perhaps this can be added to your company's mission statement. 

At this time, I'd recommend a separate website/service that is a natural extension of another boutique store that offers this service so you can get back to being the cheapest provider of the exact same electronic goods as what everyone else is selling.

Just my two satoshis!

Happy bitcoin halving day! (depending on your country)

First of all, this is amazing. Exactly what bitcoin needed!

The main menu on the left is very buggy, though. Might want to fix that before beta period ends. For example, submenus will start popping in and out in an endless loop sometimes, even when the mouse has left the menu area.

Jon, I appreciate you reaching out to this guy, but it sounds like as I suspected, this is not a bitcoin issue.  Perhaps the value you are providing this guy will keep him as a customer, but I'm guessing every Best Buy/Amazon deals this this same issue and doesn't offer that service to their clients of reviewing copy, etc.  

Feel free to knock out this one situation/customer, but I'd prefer if you get back to focusing on selling the same electronic goods as Amazon, etc. for cheaper for bitcoin.  Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but that's your business model and should be your priority number 1.  There's nothing wrong with you focusing on that.  

I came to the same conclusion as well. One of my reasons for my posts was to explain to the guy asking for Windows-free laptops why he is not likely to get them from an online superstore. I am also hinting that if this store is successfull, it may leave room for more specialzed boutique stores. My arguments apply to non-electronic goods like fair-trade coffee as well.

I was also cautioning Bitcoinstore staff that this new business venture is not the same as Memorydealers (in case they did not know that already). My posts are all over the map, so perhaps I did not make myself clear.

For specifics, discussion should be moved to PM. I was talking about the Printer featured in the Original post of this tread. The Dell website really does not have any additional information. For more information, I would probably have to contact Dell directly. Tangent: even that does not work sometimes; I asked HP about what protocol one of their wireless keyboards uses. They did not know. The rep told me "Verbatim." Verbatim could not answer the same question about their similar keyboard likely made by the same nameless manufacturer. The misleading copy was a $10 product I purchased from another online store. The vague copy was a simlar product, but that is all I know (I did not want to spend another $10 shipping a $10 product back).

I agree. Although the idea of the menu is kinda cool, I think it's better if it somehow flipped out to the right. Sometimes the menu doesn't fit on my screen, and then I have to scroll..
Another tiny issue I have is that the default quantity is set to 0, which is misleading because when I press add to cart it does add that item once.

I think I don't understand how to select shipping. I put a laptop in my cart, and it gives me all of the below options. I'm pretty sure a laptop won't fit in a "Priority Mail Flat Rate Envelope", but how am I to know on the other ones. And what's the deal with "Flat Rate"? IMO, this part needs to be more clear for a non-beta site.

It seems to only offer Flat Rate now. Is that right?

The menu on the site is outright unusable. Worst menu on any store I've used recently.

Paypal just sent me this:

Good tidings come in threes.
Mr. ABC,

This holiday season, check out with PayPal to receive:

•   Price Matching

•   Return Shipping on Us*

•   Give Now, Pay Later

I'm curious if we can use BitcoinStore as a credible source for price matching...

I know you want the business, but perhaps this is another way to work bitcoinstore.com into conversations with people.

In case it doesn't go without saying, feel free to explain (give ammunition) why bitcoinstore.com is better than any site accepting Paypal.

One of the main goals of Bitcoinstore.com (http://Bitcoinstore.com) is to put pressure on existing merchants to accept Bitcoin in order to be able to match our prices.

By using Bitcoinstore.com (http://Bitcoinstore.com) as a reference for this paypal offer,  it will help put additional pressure.
We will do whatever we can to assist in the claim process with paypal as well.

Has it reaped success? I would hate to see a good site like that get closed cause no one used it.

This is what I get when I add shipping & tax estimate... is there no tax b/c you're shipping across state lines?

Until the law changes,  we are only required to charge tax in CA, TN, and MA.

I may be able to move the business outside of CA at some point and eliminate the need for Sales tax in CA as well.

Is the website loading very slowly for anyone else? It takes like 5-10 seconds to load for me.

Yes, it's painfully slow for me too, almost to the point to be unusable.

Yes, it's painfully slow for me too, almost to the point to be unusable.

But, really, I'm going to order some computer hardware soon and I'd rather spend it here then elsewhere. Just not a grand worth...

They should be removing the $1,000 minimum soon.

In 4-6 weeks?

I would suggest working with other community members to consolidate multiple orders into one order worth $1000+. Just make sure the person it gets sent to is trustworthy enough to ship it out to everyone else!

You could even ask your friends irl if anyone needs hardware and consolidate an order that way.

500,000 items but no Apple products?!?

The $1000 minimum has been removed.

You may now place orders for any amount.

Free shipping on orders over $100

Please give us a try and provide your feedback.

www.bitcoinstore.com (http://www.bitcoinstore.com)

Do you ship to Canada?

When I placed my order, it gave me the option of Free Shipping for $0 and Flat Shipping for $4.99. I went with the Free, but I was wondering what the difference was. If Flat is faster, it may be good to state that there.

The exchange rate when calculating prices in USD seems a little low?

You should add a "message" or "label" to the "Click to Pay" URL.  Perhaps something like "Bitcoinstore.com order# 18272542".  Then you are autodocumenting the transactions for the users, and you'll appreciate them having easy access to the order number when they contact you for various reasons.

Technically it should go in the "message" field, but I think Bitcoin-Qt doesn't really use that field, so I think it has to go under "label."  I've talked to them about making the "message" field useful (marking the transaction, instead of the address), but they don't do it, yet.

This sounds like more of a comment for Bitpay.com (http://Bitpay.com) since the checkout is handled by them.
I don't see it as much of a problem currently since all the information is emailed to the customer as soon as they place their order.

. . . Please keep it in the other threads . . .

I cannot in good faith (and will not) recommend blockchain.info to anybody ever again unless they do one of the following:

I posted my response here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131608.msg1409489#msg1409489

I figured someone else would have mentioned this by now (sorry if someone did and I missed it), but the price category defaults are a little strange. My choices are often "$0 - $9999" and then "$10,000 - "19,999" when I am looking at something like printers or computer monitors. When I go to other electronic store websites, I often pick a price category and then browse for something I might want, but I can't do that easily here.
(bonus: add a custom price range)

This issue has been fixed.
The current price ranges are now:
$0.00 - $49.99
$50.00 - $99.99
$100.00 - $249.99
$250.00 - $499.99
$500.00 - $999.99
$1,000.00 - $2,999.99
$3,000.00 - $4,999.99
$5,000.00 - $7,999.99
$8,000.00 and above

and the customer will be able to choose custom price ranges soon.

The other issues people mentioned will be fixed soon as well.

Any tweak to make the customer's experience more pleasant is a plus in my book. Sometimes a business doesn't know there's an issue unless it's brought to their attention, this being a fine example.

Keep up the good work, Roger.

~Bruno K~

Recent updates include:

1.  New and improved side menu.
2. Greatly improved site performance.  (much less waiting)

More updates are coming soon.

Items I wanted but couldn't find: JLabs J3 ear buds, Eneloop 4xAAA batteries, any no-name silicone case for Sansa Fuze.

do you sell ubuntu laptops?  i get nothing when i search for "linux or ubuntu laptop".

1. The Eneloop batteries should be listed on the site (but aren't)
I will look into what is causing them not to show up,  and should have the problem fixed soon.

2. Unfortunately Jlabs is not one of the brands carried by our current distributor, and they also don't have cases for the Sansa Fuze.
In the future we will add additional distributors but this is still at least a month or two out, and adds a significant amount of complexity to the import system.

The good news is that if you are in the market for the Sansa Fuze itself we are MUCH cheaper than Amazon!

SanDisk 8GB SANSA FUZE+ MP3 PLAYER:
Bitcoin store  (http://www.bitcoinstore.com/sandisk-sansa-fuze-sdmx20r-8-gb-white-flash-portable-media-player.html) $76.99 
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDMX20R-Portable-Player-SDMX20R-008GW-A57/dp/B009XZA6B6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1356757932&sr=1-1&keywords=SDMX20R-008GW-A57) $122.72 

Im having trouble finding/figuring out how dynamic/up to date the pricing on the site is. The items I am looking at dont work out anywhere near the mtgox 24h average which I suspected to be the yardstick there. How and when do prices change in accordance to bitcoins exchange rate ?

This displayed exchange rate has been fixed.
The exchange rate at checkout is always calculated by Bitpay via their formula: https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-exchange-rates (https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-exchange-rates)
This way the customer is always guaranteed to get the very best rate possible for their Bitcoins.

Do you get lower prices in BTC when you get to the checkout?

2 remarks, don't know if they have been addressed before:

1) I can't find the "comparison list" (easily, and it should be easy).  Does it exist already?  If so, you might want to make 'comparison list' clickable in the message you get after you click "Add to compare"

2) I believe you only accept payments in bitcoin.  While I think your website is great for the bitcoin community and its advancement of legal businesses, why not accept alternative (meaning the traditional) means of payment too, but give like a 5% reduction for using bitcoins.  That way your target audience grows substantially, and you'll have a better shot at becoming profitable, or am I overlooking some effects?

SanDisk 8GB SANSA FUZE+ MP3 PLAYER:
Bitcoin store  (http://www.bitcoinstore.com/sandisk-sansa-fuze-sdmx20r-8-gb-white-flash-portable-media-player.html) $76.99 
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDMX20R-Portable-Player-SDMX20R-008GW-A57/dp/B009XZA6B6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1356757932&sr=1-1&keywords=SDMX20R-008GW-A57) $122.72 

Amazon Price: $62.99

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Sansa-Fuze-Player-White/dp/B0041G62V0/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358469318&sr=1-2&keywords=SDMX20R-008GW-A57

They don't change vastly enough for his earlier claim to be true.  He wasn't even quoting the actual amazon price, just one of the third party dealers that go through amazon, and the most expensive of those third party dealers at that.

Stop lying about amazon prices.

Bentar,

Stop spreading FUD.

Here are some current examples as of Jan 18th 2013

HP LASERJET PRO 400 M451DN CLR
BitcoinStore (http://www.bitcoinstore.com/office-printers/printers/color-laser-printers/hp-laserjet-pro-m451dn-laser-printer-color-600-x-600-dpi-print-plain-paper-print-desktop-703686.html) $494
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/HP-LaserJet-Pro-color-M451dn/dp/B007GNMLA6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358514665&sr=1-1&keywords=0886111731596)  $509

Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Hewlett-Packard-M451DN-Laserjet-Enterprise/dp/B006X2FE1O/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358539221&sr=1-1&keywords=HP+LaserJet+Pro+400+color+M451dn) $422, with $499 being the 1st party price when in stock.

3/4 though this time, so there's really no reason to throw in a 4th example that happens to be a dishonest one unless you just have a problem making an entire post without some sort of lie in it.

You are aware that these change based on your location and the time in which you click refresh, yes?  So why don't you think before you post something stupid?  Or do you not like to think before you post?

Oh, and an I-dare-you-to-add-this product, that I think might have a niche bitcoin market:  solar panels.
Promise to buy at least one :)

You really need to give your site's navigation some reworking....

MemoryDealers:

I am sure the community is interested in knowing how you are doing. Is the site currently answering to your expectations ?

I will certainly consider using your site the next time it's time to order electronics.

How is it for ordering to countries outside the US, I didn't see any shipping options for this. Do you at the moment ship internationally ? If so, it would be interesting to know what kind of shipment options there are, and the cost of these.

Also, are you shipping from the US, or are you shipping from Asia (China) ?

For now,  please check out the Home Appliances section:  http://www.bitcoinstore.com/more/home-appliances.html (http://www.bitcoinstore.com/more/home-appliances.html)

The BTC/USD conversion rate used is $13.52 while Mt. Gox is at $17.44


https://i.imgur.com/QJBQ3rP.jpg



Just pointing this out so you can fix it, because it looks dishonest.

*facepalm* No wonder I felt something was amiss here.

The website displayed exchange rate is having trouble updating automatically however the exchange rate at the actual checkout updates every 5 minutes.
If the current exchange rate is $17.44 and it has been that rate for more than 5 minutes,  that is the rate you will pay at checkout.

Oh, and an I-dare-you-to-add-this product, that I think might have a niche bitcoin market:  solar panels.

Promise to buy at least one :)

I'm glad to say that someone has answered your wish!

http://www.gogreensolar.com/ (http://www.gogreensolar.com/)

Bitcoin for Solar panels!

Do you guys buy used Cisco equipment for BTC ? and if so.. where about are you located ?

I'm glad to say that someone has answered your wish!

http://www.gogreensolar.com/ (http://www.gogreensolar.com/)

Bitcoin for Solar panels!

1- The bitcoin prices I see on bitcoinstore is exactly the price I'll pay? Hope yes.

2- I would like to see on Bitcoinstore the usd value of 1 bitcoin. (the value used by bitcoinstore)

3- I would like to see on site, something like: (the bitcoinstore prices will be refreshed in 5 minutes)

I think the btc price on site, should be the same on checkout.

"case sony prs-t2 light navitech". Almost 3k results were returned.

A simple technical solution to how to update the price would be for instance to have a cron job running every n minute. For instance, every 3rd minute. Then writing this value to a database or a file. Database would probably be best.

Then, when script executes server side, fetch this number from the database and display it in the web store.

Curious why is this thread still in the bitcoin discussion thread?

Shouldn't it be moved to the Marketplace? Or service discussion?

I would like to see on site Chromebooks + WorldWide shipping.Thx

Because being able to buy 500k+ items with bitcoins is a very significant development for Bitcoin.

I'm glad to say that someone has answered your wish!

http://www.gogreensolar.com/ (http://www.gogreensolar.com/)

Bitcoin for Solar panels!

I would like to see on site Chromebooks + WorldWide shipping.Thx

LOL right...so then every other development for bitcoin should be listed here. Your logic makes no sense. Where is the cut off for being a "significant" development as opposed to an insignificant one?

World wide shipping has been available for several weeks now.
We actually had an interesting inquiry from a Bitcoiner in Iran who wanted to buy a hard drive yesterday.

I'm currently seeing a 17%+ excess cost due to BTC exchange rates.

Is this normal?
The price seems to be using around $20.5  instead of somewhere near $24

Sorry if this has been discussed - but where is the explanation for how & when the exchange rate is calculated?  Is it a 30 day average or something?

I'm currently seeing a 17%+ excess cost due to BTC exchange rates.

Is this normal?
The price seems to be using around $20.5  instead of somewhere near $24

Did you also fix the search algo? That was the other really big issue with your store for me..

This will be fixed as well.
Several people are working on improvements full time.

LOL right...so then every other development for bitcoin should be listed here. Your logic makes no sense. Where is the cut off for being a "significant" development as opposed to an insignificant one?

The security error above is a real worry to me too. It seems to be similar to the one that the Avalon website had.    As I haven't seen any public statements about this - I'm beginning to wonder if it's some sort of man-in-the-middle attack on Bitcoin-related websites.

Also.. I've been unable to login since the site update - and I have not received any shipping info for an order placed over 10 days ago.
I know it's a beta site - but this is almost enough to scare me back to using 'good-old' reversible credit card merchants :(

Just wondering how this is going overall and whether you're on target to meet the turnover you mentioned you needed to remain viable. This is one of the biggest experiments out there and it would be interesting to know how it's faring.

What are average shipping times for US customers? Are your items being dropshipped from somewhere? Is there a way to get overnight shipping? I can't find this info on your page. I want very much to support you guys, but on some purchases I can't risk not getting my order in 1-2 days. Thanks!

Is this already the new webpage that you were promising? Cause the search algo still sucks..

We're still tweaking the search algorithm. Can you tell me the search term you used and what the results were?

Thanks,
-Jon

Do you plan to give a wholesale price for bulk orders? I would be very interested in that.

I can drill down through the links on Newegg to get a list of all internal SATA 3.5" form factor 7200 RPM hard drives with a capacity of 2 TB.

With Bitcoinstore I'm limited to keyword searches or manually browsing through all 647 "Storage drives" to pick out the ones I want to compare.

There is no "man in the middle attack"
We are waiting for a new SSL certificate and the error will go away.

That!

Prevented me from buying a flash drive, in any case.

if there's something on another site, post a link, ask for help.

Here's what I want to buy with bitcoins: http://www.google.com/nexus/10/ AKA https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_10_32gb

I'm sure they will improve the site as fast as possible. Please don't give up - if there's something on another site, post a link, ask for help.

This store is a huge step towards not having to cash out into fiat. Let's support it as strongly as possible!

Well, the store in itself is no huge forward as it doesn't work. Maybe they should sell their stuff via Bitmit. Although Bitmit is all but transparent, the shopping experience is quite good atm.

We need to support these guys while they work on their site. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Sure, but they could also drive their traffic by offering their products via bitmit that most likely has more customers already than bitcoinstore.

I searched for toasters (http://bitcoinstore.com/advancedsearch/result/?q=toaster), and none of the results have images. Most of the results don't list the brand and have very limited descriptions. Not many people are going to buy something that doesn't have any photo or description.

It would actually be really nice if there were a link to the same item on Amazon.com. That way I could read full reviews, see full descriptions, etc. I would still buy the item on BitcoinStore, even if Amazon were cheaper in a specific case.

I'm trying to start buying with Bitcoins whenever possible, so thanks for your work and I hope you meet your quota!

I made an observation today when checking bitcoinstore as to the progress of the 850k run. It had moved back about 6k$ between refreshes, dont know what to make of it, but I tought I should mention it.

I suspect this has to do with the retreat of the exchange rate from a high today of $78 to the low today of $71.90.  I suspect that BitcoinStore is keeping all their revenue in bitcoin and displaying that indicator based on the current exchange rate.

That will be interesting when it comes time to sell all that revenue to pay their supplier.

If I had to guess, I'd say that they'll pay their supplier with cash from an investor or a loan.  Then they'll liquidate the BTC slowly over time, perhaps using off-exchange services such as "fastcash4bitcoins.com". Their employees will probably take a significant portion of their income in the form of bitcoin.  I wouldn't expect them to try to dump the entire bitcoin balance on MtGox in one day.

I don't think they keep all their cash in bitcoins. It'd be too risky if the price dropped they'd loose a significant amount of money. They probably pay all their bills and some of their employees in fiat so they always need it on hand.

You can track our progress here:  http://blockchain.info/address/1JqjoFF8QZwidrTbfnihGHDeu16pbLia1q (http://blockchain.info/address/1JqjoFF8QZwidrTbfnihGHDeu16pbLia1q)

That is the payout address for all the orders that come through Bitcoinstore.com (http://Bitcoinstore.com)

Please help us ready $850K USD by the end of next month!

You are talking about a group of people who have so much faith in bitcoin that they've invested heavily into creating a significant online store that accepts ONLY bitcoin as payment.  Think again:

Danny is exactly right.
I have no intention of converting my Bitcoins for USD.

I fear you may of have travelled too far back in time. Dont get me wrong I personally love this, but we are still quite some time away from your suppliers accepting bitcoin, correct ?

The current supplier for Bitcoinstore.com (http://Bitcoinstore.com) doesn't accept Bitcoins yet,  but I intend to try to change that.

Can you say anything about this guy who's been waiting 3 weeks to get his order filled?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160241.0

I just replied to his thread.
To the best of my knowledge he never contacted us before.
Our phone number is right on our website so people don't have to start new threads on the forum.
Have questions?  Call Bitcoinstore.com (http://Bitcoinstore.com) at 1 (888) 586-6083

You just don't get it! The most effective way to get help from a company that provides an email (and phone #!) is to put an annonymous post on a forum that they might not see for awhile and not even include any useful information that even could help them in said thread

(/s if it's not odvious)

I'm tired of reading "coin base is a scam" "bitinstant is a scam" and now "bitcoin store is a scam" then it comes out they never contacted support and when support does find out the issue is fixed pretty much on the spot

Hey BitcoinStore, time to start displaying prices in mBTC, don't you think? ;)

Just some feedback: spent 15-20 mins trying to buy an iron key here - the site seems really sluggish (or maybe that's my internet?) but the most frustrating thing is that every time I try and add one to my order it says out of stock - is there any way to filter out of stock items before presenting them to me?  Right now I'm slowly (one page every 5-10 seconds) going through all the options until I find one that's in stock as there's no way to tell until I try and add to my cart....

EDIT: sorry but the site is unusable at the moment - none of the buttons are appearing so I can't even use the checkout or make an account... Maybe I'll try back later this week when it's more stable.  I can't even register or do anything right now :(

Will

We'll be adding a couple decimal places in soon! :)

Nah, adding decimal places is... "weird". Soon we'll have to express prices in scientific notation. :D

Just express your prices in mBTC, I think it's about time. One mBTC is worth more than 10 cents of dollar already. Instead of saying an item costs 0.12 BTC, just say it costs 120 mBTC, for example.

Well, these are just my 2 millies. ;)

Interesting side question - does anyone know why the convention became to subdivide by 100 instead of another number?  Maybe just because 100 is easy to count on a reasonably sized abacus...?

Will

Unfortunately we have received too many orders to process them all at the speed you guys are used to. We are currently experiencing a processing time of 48hrs at the moment

I am from Scandinavia and it took just some days to get the stuff delivered here.

How long was some days for you, and what shipping option did you use ? Thanks for supporting bitcoinstore, the community needs a store like it!

Will you stock laptops with Haswell CPU's when they are released in June? I am in the market for a new PC but I want to wait for Haswell.

I went in search of SSDs on bitcoinstore.com, and they're almost all out of stock. Why?

They dont know how to filter results on this site? Bitpay is never working on checkout (even now I just checked), so you cant even pay if you wanted to either. I received an email saying oh hey remember that free shipping it listed on that item and on checkout and on the site everywhere? Yeah no, you need to pay another 100$ or cancel the order.

Yes,  these will be carried as soon as they are released.

Most of them are actually in stock,  but we are still working on improving the import script.
Feel free to contact us if there is a specific model that you need.



We are working on better filtering.
Bitpay seems to be working fine and we get dozens of orders per day with it.
If you are having a problem,  please let us know the exact details so we can fix it.
There is free shipping on everything except extra large or heavy items that can't be shipped via normal carriers.  (Like 50+ inch TVs)

i checket bitcoinstore e few days ago and it said 36% of the 850,000$ goal achieved now it's only 29% or 255,000 compared to the more than 310,000$ a couple days ago. how did that happen? mysterious chargebacks? ;)

Maybe because they are counting the USD value of the BTC they hold?

that wouldn't make any sence and i'm pretty sure, it's not the case bcs than it would have to change al the time.

Still no solution to this issue, and bitpay is not returning emails 2 days since. iirc ~13btc sitting in yours or bitpays accounts due to the sites glitches. If bitpay is performing as expected on your site why does your own site come up in the bitpay frame site at checkout? Where is my refund? I paid and your site or bitpays were not recognizing the payments so it just sat there then said payment not received, request a refund, which I did and am getting no replies from them now.

We are working on better filtering.
Bitpay seems to be working fine and we get dozens of orders per day with it.
If you are having a problem,  please let us know the exact details so we can fix it.
There is free shipping on everything except extra large or heavy items that can't be shipped via normal carriers.  (Like 50+ inch TVs)

You are requesting replies at 9PM on a Sunday evening.
I'm sure one of the support staff will get back to you first thing on Monday morning.
If by some strange reason they don't,  feel free to contact me directly and I will help track down the exact issue personally.

Why wouldn't it make any sense?  I'm pretty sure it is the case, and it does change often but I suspect they don't update the conversion in what they show on the website instantly all day long, they probably just update it once or twice a day.

As a matter of fact, you can see that the are displaying the total bitcoins right there on the web page:

1) United States Postal Service - Priority Mail International 0.446 BTC [ $47.00 ]
PLEASE NOTE: Free shipping is equally as fast as paid shipping for orders over $100.
2) Express Mail International 0.601 BTC [ $63.35 ]
PLEASE NOTE: Free shipping is equally as fast as paid shipping for orders over $100.
PLEASE NOTE: If your item is considered a "Large" item and needs LTL Shipping one of our staff members will notify you in regards to an additional shipping fee. By proceeding with the order you are agreeing to the terms.

I was just about to order something, but international shipping costs for a 0.25 BTC product seem to be ridiculously high

The following options appear:


And the contact form (link at the bottom) doesn't seem to work: https://www.bitcoinstore.com/contacts/

What is this 'free shipping' option?

absolutely exemplary service

bought a new laptop tablet and mouse and 2 / 3 have arrived

Prices are great and near unbeatable, service is quick promt and professional, and they deliver

what more can one ask ?

Ordered an HP switch on Friday, hope to see it this week.

I just got a shipping confirmation in my email.

Did I get forgotten about or was that a coincidence after posting my message?

Just wanted to report a positive experience with bitcoinstore. My order was shipped promptly and I paid less than amazon was asking. I encourage everyone to check bitcoinstore before buying something on amazon.

what's the fastest shipping they provide?

Seems to be a lot of problems arising. I'm not going to be placing any orders until people confirm their issues have been resolved. This site looked so promising. But, it's been running a long time and have had glowing reviews so I'm sure it will be resolved.

I did get my order through, and didn't lose any money, so you could call it resolved. If you want the actual bug resolved, I can't confirm that until I need another piece of electronics equipment.

Sorry, no quotes are available for this order at this time.

Hopefully BitcoinStore sorts out their order issues.

I have placed three orders, and all of them failed to be placed, requiring manual intervention. One order got refunded, and I still have two orders in limbo.  :(

i confirm order problems, invoice process completed as registerd user, paid and confirmed but cart do not let to submit order :(

still waiting from yesterday for an answer but support is really silent... :o

and my order is in limbo and btcs spent !

They handled me very well each time I attempted this (like 3 times). They took a day or two each time, but I can imagine it being a bit slower if it is still an issue now and they are handling lots of these cases.  :-[

Hello,
 
  Will you be honoring this sale anytime in the near future?

Oh geez, a month? Have you gotten a tracking number yet?

alright so i got the email found it it was in spam but still a problem the tracking number doesn't work

which courier did they use to ship the item? UPS, Fedex, DHL, Royal Mail,....? :)

AWARE SCAMMERS

order 57973 - I ordered processor FX-8320
received opened box (damaged licence sticker) with only cooler
processor is missing in parcel

BE AWARE

Also Bitcoinstore drop ships most of their stuff, they probably never even touched or had that box, they aren't the scammers here.

Any idea who you are calling out as a scammer? Your postman? Your neighbor? Your customs officer?

You do know what drop ship means right?

Yes I know that bitcoinstore sent me empty box with cooler without processor - that is their problems that bitcoinstore works with non reliable partners and that partners send fake or empty pakage

So if they will not deliver me paid order or refund this issue I want to warn community to avoid this scamming shop

Hi would you please submit a ticket to our support team and we will look into this issue immediately. We want all of our customers to get what they paid for.

Thank you!