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Title: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: BitcoinINV on November 07, 2012, 05:08:40 PM
From norml.org

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Voters in Colorado and Washington on Election Day in favor of ballot measures that remove criminal and civil penalties for the adult possession of cannabis. The votes mark the first time ever that voters have decided at the ballot box to abolish cannabis prohibition.

In Colorado, 55 percent of voters decided in favor of Amendment 64, which allows for the legal possession of up to one ounce of marijuana and/or the cultivation of up to six cannabis plants by those persons age 21 and over. Longer-term, the measure seeks to establish regulations governing the commercial production and distribution of marijuana by licensed retailers. Initial returns show the measure passing with 54 percent support.

In Washington, approximately 55 percent of voters decided in favor of I-502, which regulates the production and sale of limited amounts of marijuana for adults. The measure also removes criminal penalties specific to the adult possession of up to one ounce of cannabis for personal use. Initial returns indicate that 55 percent of voters backed the measure.

State lawmakers in Colorado initially prohibited the possession of cannabis in 1917. Washington lawmakers initially outlawed the plant in 1923.

Commenting on the historic votes, NORML Deputy Director Paul Armentano said: “Amendment 64 and Initiative 502 provide adult cannabis consumers with unprecedented legal protections. Until now, no state law has defined cannabis as a legal commodity. Some state laws do provide for a legal exception that allows for certain qualified patients to possess specific amounts of cannabis as needed. But, until today, no state in modern history has classified cannabis itself as a legal product that may be lawfully possessed and consumed by adults.”

Armentano continued: “The passage of these measures strikes significant blow to federal cannabis prohibition. Like alcohol prohibition before it, marijuana prohibition is a failed federal policy that delegates the burden of enforcement to the state and local police. Alcohol prohibition fell when a sufficient number of states enacted legislation repealing the state’s alcohol prohibition laws. With state police and prosecutors no longer engaging in the federal government’s bidding to enforce an unpopular law, the federal government had little choice but to abandon the policy altogether. Today, history begins to repeat itself.”

Separate marijuana law reform measures proved to be equally popular among voters. In Massachusetts, 63 percent of voters approved Question 3, which eliminates statewide criminal and civil penalties related to the possession and use of up to a 60-day supply of cannabis by qualified patients. It also requires the state to create and regulate up to 35 facilities to produce and dispense cannabis to approved patients. Massachusetts is the 18th state since 1996 to authorize the physician-recommended use of cannabis.

In Michigan, an estimated 65 percent of Detroit voters approved Measure M, which removes criminal penalties pertaining to the possession on private property of up to one ounce of marijuana by adults over age 21.

A statewide ballot measure to legalize the therapeutic use of cannabis in Arkansas appears to have narrowly failed by a vote of 49 percent to 51 percent. In Montana, a referendum that sought to ease legislative restrictions on the state’s medical marijuana law also failed. Oregon’s Measure 80, which sought to allow for the state-licensed production and retail sale of cannabis to adults, garnered only 45 percent of the popular vote.

The ballot measures in Colorado and Washington will take effect once the vote totals have been formally ratified, a process that typically takes up to 30 days.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dank on November 07, 2012, 05:11:51 PM
Woohoo!


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 07, 2012, 05:16:49 PM
Hell, I was just going to move to Sweden or something.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: Korbman on November 07, 2012, 06:12:25 PM
That's quite a big leap..and I'm sure there will be other states to follow suit shortly, like my home state of Vermont :P

Washington and Colorado now get to enjoy the extra tax revenue thanks to good 'ol Mary Jane (or at least eventually).


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SgtSpike on November 07, 2012, 06:14:28 PM
Thankfully, we can avoid smelling it for at least a few more years here in Oregon.  I was getting scared there for a bit...


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 07, 2012, 06:18:36 PM
Thankfully, we can avoid smelling it for at least a few more years here in Oregon.  I was getting scared there for a bit...

Oh, please. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's going to be everywhere. Anyone who wanted to was already doing it, now they just don't have to worry about going to jail for it. Should cut back on the paranoia.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: BitcoinINV on November 07, 2012, 06:19:29 PM
The exact amount of Tax revenue generated will be a big thing for other states, its always about the $$$$


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SgtSpike on November 07, 2012, 06:34:34 PM
Thankfully, we can avoid smelling it for at least a few more years here in Oregon.  I was getting scared there for a bit...

Oh, please. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's going to be everywhere. Anyone who wanted to was already doing it, now they just don't have to worry about going to jail for it. Should cut back on the paranoia.
*shrug*  I don't like the smell.  And I disagree that anyone who wanted to do it was already doing it.  Legalization will certainly increase usage, especially in public areas.

Has anyone studied the effects of secondhand marijuana smoke?


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: Korbman on November 07, 2012, 06:38:24 PM
Has anyone studied the effects of secondhand marijuana smoke?

I think that's called "contact high" ;)


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SgtSpike on November 07, 2012, 06:54:14 PM
Has anyone studied the effects of secondhand marijuana smoke?

I think that's called "contact high" ;)
Lol, excellent.

On the upside, at least this will cut into cartel profits.  Of course, they'll probably just push more of the harder stuff now.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 07, 2012, 07:01:42 PM
Has anyone studied the effects of secondhand marijuana smoke?

I think that's called "contact high" ;)
Lol, excellent.

On the upside, at least this will cut into cartel profits.  Of course, they'll probably just push more of the harder stuff now.

But at least the vast majority of drug users won't be exposed to and offered those harder drugs when buying their weed.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SgtSpike on November 07, 2012, 07:22:42 PM
Has anyone studied the effects of secondhand marijuana smoke?

I think that's called "contact high" ;)
Lol, excellent.

On the upside, at least this will cut into cartel profits.  Of course, they'll probably just push more of the harder stuff now.

But at least the vast majority of drug users won't be exposed to and offered those harder drugs when buying their weed.
A very valid point as well.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SaintDevil on November 07, 2012, 07:42:49 PM
What I don't understand it that since it became legal, does that mean that companies cannot refuse to hire you anymore if they find out that you smoked weed?


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: theymos on November 07, 2012, 07:56:51 PM
It'll be very interesting to see how the federal government reacts to this. I'd like to see public support for increased state rights.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: steamboat on November 07, 2012, 08:07:13 PM
What I don't understand it that since it became legal, does that mean that companies cannot refuse to hire you anymore if they find out that you smoked weed?

That's akin to asking if companies are allowed to peruse your credit card bills and decline to hire you if they see a W.O.W. account subscription.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dank on November 07, 2012, 08:08:14 PM
Thankfully, we can avoid smelling it for at least a few more years here in Oregon.  I was getting scared there for a bit...

Oh, please. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's going to be everywhere. Anyone who wanted to was already doing it, now they just don't have to worry about going to jail for it. Should cut back on the paranoia.
*shrug*  I don't like the smell.  And I disagree that anyone who wanted to do it was already doing it.  Legalization will certainly increase usage, especially in public areas.

Has anyone studied the effects of secondhand marijuana smoke?
Firsthand or secondhand, there's no harmful effects from smoking weed.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SaintDevil on November 07, 2012, 08:29:37 PM
What I don't understand it that since it became legal, does that mean that companies cannot refuse to hire you anymore if they find out that you smoked weed?

That's akin to asking if companies are allowed to peruse your credit card bills and decline to hire you if they see a W.O.W. account subscription.

+1, you know I knew a person once who would snoop around people's facebook accounts and decide whether she want's to hire them.


Firsthand or secondhand, there's no harmful effects from smoking weed.
There were many studies that showed that weed actually increases you ability to intellectual thinking.
Oh and it also makes you loose weight because it increases your metabolism. I guess as long as you don't overeat what you burned.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: RodeoX on November 07, 2012, 08:36:39 PM
I read some of the law and proposition and noticed something in the Washington law (i think i was that state). It mentioned that MJ is legal as long as it contains less than 1% THC.
1%? So we can only smoke ditch weed?  :-\


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SgtSpike on November 07, 2012, 08:38:01 PM
Thankfully, we can avoid smelling it for at least a few more years here in Oregon.  I was getting scared there for a bit...

Oh, please. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's going to be everywhere. Anyone who wanted to was already doing it, now they just don't have to worry about going to jail for it. Should cut back on the paranoia.
*shrug*  I don't like the smell.  And I disagree that anyone who wanted to do it was already doing it.  Legalization will certainly increase usage, especially in public areas.

Has anyone studied the effects of secondhand marijuana smoke?
Firsthand or secondhand, there's no harmful effects from smoking weed.
Doesn't it kill braincells or something, or was that just FUD?

+1, you know I knew a person once who would snoop around people's facebook accounts and decide whether she want's to hire them.
Fairly common practice these days.  That's why anyone with facebook should set their profile as private (and completely so - none of the "friends of friends" nonsense) when job hunting.  It's not illegal if they see something that they believe could hinder your performance, and that includes excessive partying, getting high, etc.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 07, 2012, 08:41:24 PM
Thankfully, we can avoid smelling it for at least a few more years here in Oregon.  I was getting scared there for a bit...

Oh, please. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's going to be everywhere. Anyone who wanted to was already doing it, now they just don't have to worry about going to jail for it. Should cut back on the paranoia.
*shrug*  I don't like the smell.  And I disagree that anyone who wanted to do it was already doing it.  Legalization will certainly increase usage, especially in public areas.

Has anyone studied the effects of secondhand marijuana smoke?
Firsthand or secondhand, there's no harmful effects from smoking weed.
Doesn't it kill braincells or something, or was that just FUD?

FUD. Might be some developmental effects if smoked before 18, but nothing detrimental after.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dank on November 07, 2012, 08:50:25 PM
Thankfully, we can avoid smelling it for at least a few more years here in Oregon.  I was getting scared there for a bit...

Oh, please. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's going to be everywhere. Anyone who wanted to was already doing it, now they just don't have to worry about going to jail for it. Should cut back on the paranoia.
*shrug*  I don't like the smell.  And I disagree that anyone who wanted to do it was already doing it.  Legalization will certainly increase usage, especially in public areas.

Has anyone studied the effects of secondhand marijuana smoke?
Firsthand or secondhand, there's no harmful effects from smoking weed.
Doesn't it kill braincells or something, or was that just FUD?

+1, you know I knew a person once who would snoop around people's facebook accounts and decide whether she want's to hire them.
Fairly common practice these days.  That's why anyone with facebook should set their profile as private (and completely so - none of the "friends of friends" nonsense) when job hunting.  It's not illegal if they see something that they believe could hinder your performance, and that includes excessive partying, getting high, etc.
FUD.  Weed's probably the healthiest thing on earth.

Regarding what SaintDevil said, it sure does help you lose weight!  Cannabis connects you to your consciousness, allowing you to think from a different perspective.  While I believe THC helps your body burn fat, I think it psychologically helps more with the mental factors of losing weight.  People often eat their problems away, weed helps you confront them.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: theymos on November 07, 2012, 08:56:13 PM
I doubt that getting any type of smoke into your lungs is very good for you.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: BitcoinINV on November 07, 2012, 09:02:01 PM
I concur but it can not be  much worse then killing your liver right?


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: RodeoX on November 07, 2012, 09:02:52 PM
I doubt that getting any type of smoke into your lungs is very good for you.
+1  I don't believe it is particularly dangerous, but smoking anything is not healthy at all.  


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 07, 2012, 09:07:50 PM
I doubt that getting any type of smoke into your lungs is very good for you.
+1  I don't believe it is particularly dangerous, but smoking anything is not healthy at all.  
Cannabis smoke does not contain all the carcinogens tobacco smoke does, but it is, as you point out, still smoke.

That's why they invented these (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporizer_%28cannabis%29).


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SaintDevil on November 07, 2012, 10:05:37 PM
I doubt that getting any type of smoke into your lungs is very good for you.
Its ok in about 10 years we should be able to easily regrow new ones.
I doubt that getting any type of smoke into your lungs is very good for you.
+1  I don't believe it is particularly dangerous, but smoking anything is not healthy at all. 
That is right as long as you have everything in moderations. I was at a party smoked way to much hookah, next day couldn't even talk. lol


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dank on November 07, 2012, 11:16:09 PM
All the smoke does is paralyze the cilia in your lounges.  Which I don't consider harmful because it doesn't really cause any harm.  When you add the medicinal benefits of cannabis, I'd say smoking weed is good for you.  Not as good as eating it, though.

More importantly, weed has the capacity to cure any/every aliment/sickness.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 07, 2012, 11:30:48 PM
More importantly, weed has the capacity to cure any/every aliment/sickness.

It has been shown to help a great many things. Curing everything, however, I would place beyond even this miracle plant.

It is an excellent source of complete protein and amino and fatty acids, though. Makes good paper, too.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dank on November 07, 2012, 11:55:10 PM
More importantly, weed has the capacity to cure any/every aliment/sickness.

It has been shown to help a great many things. Curing everything, however, I would place beyond even this miracle plant.

It is an excellent source of complete protein and amino and fatty acids, though. Makes good paper, too.
It cures cancer man, from my research, every legit study I find has the same end result: weed helps.  The thing is, weed cures your soul, a healthy soul has a healthy body.  It makes perfect sense, it's grown from nature, a little piece of god.  You can't really think our man made pharmaceuticals can match with the work of god, the universe.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 12:03:28 AM
More importantly, weed has the capacity to cure any/every aliment/sickness.

It has been shown to help a great many things. Curing everything, however, I would place beyond even this miracle plant.

It is an excellent source of complete protein and amino and fatty acids, though. Makes good paper, too.
It cures cancer man, from my research, every legit study I find has the same end result: weed helps.  The thing is, weed cures your soul, a healthy soul has a healthy body.  It makes perfect sense, it's grown from nature, a little piece of god.  You can't really think our man made pharmaceuticals can match with the work of god, the universe.

This (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_phalloides) is grown from nature, too... a "little piece of god." I wouldn't recommend eating it.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: Korbman on November 08, 2012, 12:28:03 AM
This (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_phalloides) is grown from nature, too... a "little piece of god." I wouldn't recommend eating it.

Instead, focus on these (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin_mushrooms) naturally grown veggies :P


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dank on November 08, 2012, 12:40:29 AM
More importantly, weed has the capacity to cure any/every aliment/sickness.

It has been shown to help a great many things. Curing everything, however, I would place beyond even this miracle plant.

It is an excellent source of complete protein and amino and fatty acids, though. Makes good paper, too.
It cures cancer man, from my research, every legit study I find has the same end result: weed helps.  The thing is, weed cures your soul, a healthy soul has a healthy body.  It makes perfect sense, it's grown from nature, a little piece of god.  You can't really think our man made pharmaceuticals can match with the work of god, the universe.

This (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_phalloides) is grown from nature, too... a "little piece of god." I wouldn't recommend eating it.
That's like comparing alcohol to cannabis.  You have to look at it for what it truly is and has been for over 5000 years.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: Fcx35x10 on November 08, 2012, 12:54:40 AM
come on and legalize it in general already


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 12:58:04 AM
More importantly, weed has the capacity to cure any/every aliment/sickness.

It has been shown to help a great many things. Curing everything, however, I would place beyond even this miracle plant.

It is an excellent source of complete protein and amino and fatty acids, though. Makes good paper, too.
It cures cancer man, from my research, every legit study I find has the same end result: weed helps.  The thing is, weed cures your soul, a healthy soul has a healthy body.  It makes perfect sense, it's grown from nature, a little piece of god.  You can't really think our man made pharmaceuticals can match with the work of god, the universe.

This (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_phalloides) is grown from nature, too... a "little piece of god." I wouldn't recommend eating it.
That's like comparing alcohol to cannabis.  You have to look at it for what it truly is and has been for over 5000 years.
No, It's like comparing cannabis to a toxic fungi... because that's exactly what I did. Toxic plants exist as well as beneficial ones. you cannot say "Look, it grows upon the ground, as a gift from god! It must be therefore good to eat!" Nature will kill you just as quick as heal you.

Alcohol, THC, and α-amanitin all have one thing in common: they are chemicals designed by the plants and fungi that produce them to keep pests away. That one of those is non-toxic, even beneficial, to humans is happy accident.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: tiberiandusk on November 08, 2012, 01:37:20 AM
While sparking one up don't forget we might be getting Puerto Rico as our 51st state.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dank on November 08, 2012, 01:40:34 AM
More importantly, weed has the capacity to cure any/every aliment/sickness.

It has been shown to help a great many things. Curing everything, however, I would place beyond even this miracle plant.

It is an excellent source of complete protein and amino and fatty acids, though. Makes good paper, too.
It cures cancer man, from my research, every legit study I find has the same end result: weed helps.  The thing is, weed cures your soul, a healthy soul has a healthy body.  It makes perfect sense, it's grown from nature, a little piece of god.  You can't really think our man made pharmaceuticals can match with the work of god, the universe.

This (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_phalloides) is grown from nature, too... a "little piece of god." I wouldn't recommend eating it.
That's like comparing alcohol to cannabis.  You have to look at it for what it truly is and has been for over 5000 years.
No, It's like comparing cannabis to a toxic fungi... because that's exactly what I did. Toxic plants exist as well as beneficial ones. you cannot say "Look, it grows upon the ground, as a gift from god! It must be therefore good to eat!" Nature will kill you just as quick as heal you.

Alcohol, THC, and α-amanitin all have one thing in common: they are chemicals designed by the plants and fungi that produce them to keep pests away. That one of those is non-toxic, even beneficial, to humans is happy accident.
I was not justifying it's healthiness based on the fact it's natural.  I was justifying it's capabilities to cure everything.  I never said therefor.  If there would be a cure all, it would be natural, and if there is one, it would be cannabis.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: AndrewBUD on November 08, 2012, 01:43:51 AM
Dude.. I have probably smoked more weed in 2 weeks then you have in your entire life.... Some of the stuff you say seems sorta Crazy..... Weed is great yes.. But smoke in itself is very bad for your body...

Unless you only consume your weed by eating it or vaping it, then you are doing much harm to your body.....



If it's a cure all why the fuck do I keep stubbing my damn toe? Weird ass deformity with the second toe longer than the big toe.... HIGH!




Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dree12 on November 08, 2012, 01:47:04 AM
More importantly, weed has the capacity to cure any/every aliment/sickness.

It has been shown to help a great many things. Curing everything, however, I would place beyond even this miracle plant.

It is an excellent source of complete protein and amino and fatty acids, though. Makes good paper, too.
It cures cancer man, from my research, every legit study I find has the same end result: weed helps.  The thing is, weed cures your soul, a healthy soul has a healthy body.  It makes perfect sense, it's grown from nature, a little piece of god.  You can't really think our man made pharmaceuticals can match with the work of god, the universe.

This (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_phalloides) is grown from nature, too... a "little piece of god." I wouldn't recommend eating it.
That's like comparing alcohol to cannabis.  You have to look at it for what it truly is and has been for over 5000 years.
No, It's like comparing cannabis to a toxic fungi... because that's exactly what I did. Toxic plants exist as well as beneficial ones. you cannot say "Look, it grows upon the ground, as a gift from god! It must be therefore good to eat!" Nature will kill you just as quick as heal you.

Alcohol, THC, and α-amanitin all have one thing in common: they are chemicals designed by the plants and fungi that produce them to keep pests away. That one of those is non-toxic, even beneficial, to humans is happy accident.
I was not justifying it's healthiness based on the fact it's natural.  I was justifying it's capabilities to cure everything.  I never said therefor.  If there would be a cure all, it would be natural, and if there is one, it would be cannabis.
There is no cure for all. Cannabis and its active ingredient, THC, have negative impacts on the human body, especially when not used in moderation. Admittedly, anything that isn't food has negative impacts, and tobacco or alcohol are definitely worse and more prevalent.

The only ability cannabis has to "cure any/every aliment [sic] /sickness" is the ability to divert your attention from it, i.e. it is a painkiller and nothing more.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: AndrewBUD on November 08, 2012, 01:48:50 AM
I don't agree with this completely ^


Marijuana when used properly does have medicinal benefits.... Such as.... Not sure right now ask me in the morning before noon when I am more uhhh "not stoned" :)


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 01:50:40 AM
I was not justifying it's healthiness based on the fact it's natural.  I was justifying it's capabilities to cure everything.  I never said therefor.  If there would be a cure all, it would be natural, and if there is one, it would be cannabis.
Don't get me wrong, Cannabis is a great plant. It's a "superfood," does seem to have some anti-cancer properties, makes great paper and cloth, and you can even run your cars on it. But don't fall into the trap of thinking that because it can do all those things, it can do everything.

I mean, Amanita phalloides is a "cure-all" too... have one, and you'll never be sick again. Doesn't mean I'll be handing them out next Halloween.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: tiberiandusk on November 08, 2012, 01:52:27 AM
Weed has been shown to prevent Alzheimer's, reduce the growth and size of some tumors, kill MRSA infections, fight nausea and help appetite, treat PTSD and other forms of depression, and a bunch of other stuff. You can get a lot more ethanol from hemp than you can from corn and it takes basically nothing to farm because it grows like a weed. Pun intended. Paper, fabrics, plastics, fuels, etc, can all be made from hemp. People that are for prohibition are either crazy, stupid, or are profiting from it.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: AndrewBUD on November 08, 2012, 01:53:21 AM
I would say most are crazy stupid listening to the ones profiting from it.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dank on November 08, 2012, 01:54:57 AM
Dude.. I have probably smoked more weed in 2 weeks then you have in your entire life.... Some of the stuff you say seems sorta Crazy..... Weed is great yes.. But smoke in itself is very bad for your body...

Unless you only consume your weed by eating it or vaping it, then you are doing much harm to your body.....



If it's a cure all why the fuck do I keep stubbing my damn toe? Weird ass deformity with the second toe longer than the big toe.... HIGH!

I started smoking over 2 years ago, you probably smoke a lot more than me, now.  I can't find a study that proves a harmful effect from cannabis smoke (other than suffocating monkeys with gas masks for 15 minutes, producing killage of braincells).

If someone could correct me, and provide a study that proves some negative effects.  From my experience, I can't attest to any.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dree12 on November 08, 2012, 02:00:29 AM
I was not justifying it's healthiness based on the fact it's natural.  I was justifying it's capabilities to cure everything.  I never said therefor.  If there would be a cure all, it would be natural, and if there is one, it would be cannabis.
Don't get me wrong, Cannabis is a great plant. It's a "superfood," does seem to have some anti-cancer properties, makes great paper and cloth, and you can even run your cars on it. But don't fall into the trap of thinking that because it can do all those things, it can do everything.

I mean, Amanita phalloides is a "cure-all" too... have one, and you'll never be sick again. Doesn't mean I'll be handing them out next Halloween.
Cannabis is as good a medical plant as any other (curing Alzheimer, cancer, etc.), but using it without a medical reason is clearly bad for your health. In fact, smoking cannabis when you don't have cancer can increase your chance of cancer.

Dude.. I have probably smoked more weed in 2 weeks then you have in your entire life.... Some of the stuff you say seems sorta Crazy..... Weed is great yes.. But smoke in itself is very bad for your body...

Unless you only consume your weed by eating it or vaping it, then you are doing much harm to your body.....

If it's a cure all why the fuck do I keep stubbing my damn toe? Weird ass deformity with the second toe longer than the big toe.... HIGH!

I started smoking over 2 years ago, you probably smoke a lot more than me, now.  I can't find a study that proves a harmful effect from cannabis smoke (other than suffocating monkeys with gas masks for 15 minutes, producing killage of braincells).

If someone could correct me, and provide a study that proves some negative effects.  From my experience, I can't attest to any.
Ignoring the opposition is not an effective way to make it disappear.
  • Carcinogenic properties. (http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/hazard_ident/pdf_zip/FinalMJsmokeHID.pdf)
  • Anxiety disorders. (http://www.mcri.edu.au/news/2012/august/heavy-teenage-cannabis-use-linked-with-anxiety-disorders/)


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: AndrewBUD on November 08, 2012, 02:03:20 AM
Because you have been smoking for 2 years... Smoke for 15 years and I'll bet you have a much different opinion....   It does fuck with your memory... your lungs....




Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dank on November 08, 2012, 02:11:11 AM
I was not justifying it's healthiness based on the fact it's natural.  I was justifying it's capabilities to cure everything.  I never said therefor.  If there would be a cure all, it would be natural, and if there is one, it would be cannabis.
Don't get me wrong, Cannabis is a great plant. It's a "superfood," does seem to have some anti-cancer properties, makes great paper and cloth, and you can even run your cars on it. But don't fall into the trap of thinking that because it can do all those things, it can do everything.

I mean, Amanita phalloides is a "cure-all" too... have one, and you'll never be sick again. Doesn't mean I'll be handing them out next Halloween.
Cannabis is as good a medical plant as any other (curing Alzheimer, cancer, etc.), but using it without a medical reason is clearly bad for your health. In fact, smoking cannabis when you don't have cancer can increase your chance of cancer.

Dude.. I have probably smoked more weed in 2 weeks then you have in your entire life.... Some of the stuff you say seems sorta Crazy..... Weed is great yes.. But smoke in itself is very bad for your body...

Unless you only consume your weed by eating it or vaping it, then you are doing much harm to your body.....

If it's a cure all why the fuck do I keep stubbing my damn toe? Weird ass deformity with the second toe longer than the big toe.... HIGH!

I started smoking over 2 years ago, you probably smoke a lot more than me, now.  I can't find a study that proves a harmful effect from cannabis smoke (other than suffocating monkeys with gas masks for 15 minutes, producing killage of braincells).

If someone could correct me, and provide a study that proves some negative effects.  From my experience, I can't attest to any.
Ignoring the opposition is not an effective way to make it disappear.
  • Carcinogenic properties. (http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/hazard_ident/pdf_zip/FinalMJsmokeHID.pdf)
  • Anxiety disorders. (http://www.mcri.edu.au/news/2012/august/heavy-teenage-cannabis-use-linked-with-anxiety-disorders/)
Nearly everything's carcinogenic.  Cannabis use does not increase your risk of cancer, it cures cancer.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dree12 on November 08, 2012, 02:12:41 AM
I was not justifying it's healthiness based on the fact it's natural.  I was justifying it's capabilities to cure everything.  I never said therefor.  If there would be a cure all, it would be natural, and if there is one, it would be cannabis.
Don't get me wrong, Cannabis is a great plant. It's a "superfood," does seem to have some anti-cancer properties, makes great paper and cloth, and you can even run your cars on it. But don't fall into the trap of thinking that because it can do all those things, it can do everything.

I mean, Amanita phalloides is a "cure-all" too... have one, and you'll never be sick again. Doesn't mean I'll be handing them out next Halloween.
Cannabis is as good a medical plant as any other (curing Alzheimer, cancer, etc.), but using it without a medical reason is clearly bad for your health. In fact, smoking cannabis when you don't have cancer can increase your chance of cancer.

Dude.. I have probably smoked more weed in 2 weeks then you have in your entire life.... Some of the stuff you say seems sorta Crazy..... Weed is great yes.. But smoke in itself is very bad for your body...

Unless you only consume your weed by eating it or vaping it, then you are doing much harm to your body.....

If it's a cure all why the fuck do I keep stubbing my damn toe? Weird ass deformity with the second toe longer than the big toe.... HIGH!

I started smoking over 2 years ago, you probably smoke a lot more than me, now.  I can't find a study that proves a harmful effect from cannabis smoke (other than suffocating monkeys with gas masks for 15 minutes, producing killage of braincells).

If someone could correct me, and provide a study that proves some negative effects.  From my experience, I can't attest to any.
Ignoring the opposition is not an effective way to make it disappear.
  • Carcinogenic properties. (http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/hazard_ident/pdf_zip/FinalMJsmokeHID.pdf)
  • Anxiety disorders. (http://www.mcri.edu.au/news/2012/august/heavy-teenage-cannabis-use-linked-with-anxiety-disorders/)
Nearly everything's carcinogenic.  Cannabis use does not increase your risk of cancer, it cures cancer.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4
Things that cure cancer can still cause cancer. Cannabis is one of these things.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: AndrewBUD on November 08, 2012, 02:13:07 AM
It helps reduce the growth of certain cancerous cells... (Does not make it a total cure for cancer)


so by using marijuana you might have a 4% less chance of getting cancer than someone who only smokes cigarettes....  (that number is a guess but it's probably close to the truth)








Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dree12 on November 08, 2012, 02:19:48 AM
It helps reduce the growth of certain cancerous cells... (Does not make it a total cure for cancer)


so by using marijuana you might have a 4% less chance of getting cancer than someone who only smokes cigarettes....  (that number is a guess but it's probably close to the truth)
Someone who smokes cigarettes is extremely likely to get cancer anyways.

Cannabis reduces the growth of certain cancerous cells. That's why medical cannabis makes sense. But if you don't have those cancerous cells in the first place, risking possible growth of other cancerous cells sounds like a bad idea to me.

I will defend to the end one's right to smoke cannabis recreationally, but I won't recommend it to anyone. It's harmful if you use it for no reason.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 02:32:08 AM
Someone who smokes cigarettes is extremely likely to get cancer anyways.

Cannabis reduces the growth of certain cancerous cells. That's why medical cannabis makes sense. But if you don't have those cancerous cells in the first place, risking possible growth of other cancerous cells sounds like a bad idea to me.
As Dank pointed out, pretty much everything causes cancer. Especially if you're in California. The number one cause of death is birth. Might as well enjoy the ride while you're here.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: cbeast on November 08, 2012, 02:54:01 AM
I'm guessing this will affect property values in these states. It will probably drive the hydroponics industry up a bit as well.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: AndrewBUD on November 08, 2012, 02:59:10 AM
I'm guessing this will affect property values in these states. It will probably drive the hydroponics industry up a bit as well.


Depends how their laws are set.


Will individuals be allowed to grow a personal amount without being persecuted?


If that's the case, a lot of small grows will start popping up....instead of fewer larger scale grows...




Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 03:01:37 AM
Will individuals be allowed to grow a personal amount without being persecuted?

IIRC, CO allows "six plants in an enclosed space." Not sure about WA.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: repentance on November 08, 2012, 03:03:12 AM
What I don't understand it that since it became legal, does that mean that companies cannot refuse to hire you anymore if they find out that you smoked weed?

Pot smokers aren't going to suddenly be made a protected class under civil rights and other anti-discrimination laws.  


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 03:04:44 AM
What I don't understand it that since it became legal, does that mean that companies cannot refuse to hire you anymore if they find out that you smoked weed?

Pot smokers aren't going to suddenly be made a protected class under civil rights and other anti-discrimination laws.  
But it should reduce the number of pee tests.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dank on November 08, 2012, 04:32:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuPqLVEnd7A

Cannabis has been used as medicine for thousands of years, this information is just suppressed, nothing new.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: bitcoinbear on November 08, 2012, 04:47:37 AM
What I don't understand it that since it became legal, does that mean that companies cannot refuse to hire you anymore if they find out that you smoked weed?

Pot smokers aren't going to suddenly be made a protected class under civil rights and other anti-discrimination laws.  
But it should reduce the number of pee tests.

Companies can require alcohol tests, but alcohol is legal. It is not about the legality of the substance, it is about the impairment to performing the job functions. If you come to work high and put other people in danger, then you should be fired.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 05:02:36 AM
What I don't understand it that since it became legal, does that mean that companies cannot refuse to hire you anymore if they find out that you smoked weed?

Pot smokers aren't going to suddenly be made a protected class under civil rights and other anti-discrimination laws.  
But it should reduce the number of pee tests.

Companies can require alcohol tests, but alcohol is legal. It is not about the legality of the substance, it is about the impairment to performing the job functions. If you come to work high impaired and put other people in danger, then you should be fired.
Fixed that for you. But I 100% agree. I was speaking of pre-employment pee tests. You know, the ones where they check to see if you've smoked in the past 3 months. (They don't check for past history of alcohol use...)


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SaintDevil on November 08, 2012, 05:33:26 AM
Fixed that for you. But I 100% agree. I was speaking of pre-employment pee tests. You know, the ones where they check to see if you've smoked in the past 3 months. (They don't check for past history of alcohol use...)
Yeah but there is a difference, where alcohol only stays in blood for a couple hours.
So are you saying that those who smokes have to wait 3 months before getting a job?


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: cbeast on November 08, 2012, 07:08:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuPqLVEnd7A

Cannabis has been used as medicine for thousands of years, this information is just suppressed, nothing new.
I would not doubt that the human body even requires some of these substances to stay in good health, much like it requires obtaining vitamin C from the environment.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: jl2035 on November 08, 2012, 12:27:03 PM
You lucky americanz... I wonder when the shit will be legal in Europe...  ???


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 01:38:46 PM
Fixed that for you. But I 100% agree. I was speaking of pre-employment pee tests. You know, the ones where they check to see if you've smoked in the past 3 months. (They don't check for past history of alcohol use...)
Yeah but there is a difference, where alcohol only stays in blood for a couple hours.
So are you saying that those who smokes have to wait 3 months before getting a job?
Any job that requires a pre-employment drug screening, yes. (alcohol metabolites can be detected in urine for a day or two, IIRC...)


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: AndrewBUD on November 08, 2012, 01:43:29 PM
You lucky americanz... I wonder when the shit will be legal in Europe...  ???

Lucky american's ? Dude 2 states legalized personal use.....  



and the same thing is happening in Europe, you can find a few places that have legal personal use....


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: Badonkadonk on November 08, 2012, 01:43:44 PM
You lucky americanz... I wonder when the shit will be legal in Europe...  ???

like with 99% of what the usa does, the western world will follow in due time...
dont ask me why tho, cause theres allot of crazy shit going on lol :D


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: bitcoinbear on November 08, 2012, 05:46:01 PM
What I don't understand it that since it became legal, does that mean that companies cannot refuse to hire you anymore if they find out that you smoked weed?

Pot smokers aren't going to suddenly be made a protected class under civil rights and other anti-discrimination laws.  
But it should reduce the number of pee tests.

Companies can require alcohol tests, but alcohol is legal. It is not about the legality of the substance, it is about the impairment to performing the job functions. If you come to work high impaired and put other people in danger, then you should be fired.
Fixed that for you. But I 100% agree. I was speaking of pre-employment pee tests. You know, the ones where they check to see if you've smoked in the past 3 months. (They don't check for past history of alcohol use...)

That is only because alcohol is harder to measure than cannabis. Where I work, we sometimes have to take a random trip to the clinic for a pee test and alcohol breathilizer. So they are measuring alcohol use. And before I started this job I took the pee test and breathed into the machine. While few people would be drunk going into a job interview, I suppose doing the test screens out the real screwballs.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 05:58:47 PM
That is only because alcohol is harder to measure than cannabis. Where I work, we sometimes have to take a random trip to the clinic for a pee test and alcohol breathilizer. So they are measuring alcohol use. And before I started this job I took the pee test and breathed into the machine. While few people would be drunk going into a job interview, I suppose doing the test screens out the real screwballs.

All a UA proves is that you used a chemical. It tests for metabolites. It proves that your system has processed a chemical. Testing for impairment instead of the presence of a chemical or its metabolites will catch not only the stoners and drunks, but also the ones who don't get enough sleep, or otherwise are a danger to their co-workers, and more importantly, not catch the people who had a beer or a joint last night after work and aren't impaired now.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: BitcoinCoffee.com on November 08, 2012, 06:56:33 PM
I'm nervous to see how the federal perspective unfolds.

It will be unfortunate if they take it to supreme court.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SgtSpike on November 08, 2012, 07:44:21 PM
That is only because alcohol is harder to measure than cannabis. Where I work, we sometimes have to take a random trip to the clinic for a pee test and alcohol breathilizer. So they are measuring alcohol use. And before I started this job I took the pee test and breathed into the machine. While few people would be drunk going into a job interview, I suppose doing the test screens out the real screwballs.

All a UA proves is that you used a chemical. It tests for metabolites. It proves that your system has processed a chemical. Testing for impairment instead of the presence of a chemical or its metabolites will catch not only the stoners and drunks, but also the ones who don't get enough sleep, or otherwise are a danger to their co-workers, and more importantly, not catch the people who had a beer or a joint last night after work and aren't impaired now.
And how, exactly, would a company objectively test for impairment?


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 07:49:10 PM
That is only because alcohol is harder to measure than cannabis. Where I work, we sometimes have to take a random trip to the clinic for a pee test and alcohol breathilizer. So they are measuring alcohol use. And before I started this job I took the pee test and breathed into the machine. While few people would be drunk going into a job interview, I suppose doing the test screens out the real screwballs.

All a UA proves is that you used a chemical. It tests for metabolites. It proves that your system has processed a chemical. Testing for impairment instead of the presence of a chemical or its metabolites will catch not only the stoners and drunks, but also the ones who don't get enough sleep, or otherwise are a danger to their co-workers, and more importantly, not catch the people who had a beer or a joint last night after work and aren't impaired now.
And how, exactly, would a company objectively test for impairment?

Google is your friend. First result: http://workrights.us/?products=impairment-testing-does-it-work
There are several methods.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SgtSpike on November 08, 2012, 07:52:37 PM
That is only because alcohol is harder to measure than cannabis. Where I work, we sometimes have to take a random trip to the clinic for a pee test and alcohol breathilizer. So they are measuring alcohol use. And before I started this job I took the pee test and breathed into the machine. While few people would be drunk going into a job interview, I suppose doing the test screens out the real screwballs.

All a UA proves is that you used a chemical. It tests for metabolites. It proves that your system has processed a chemical. Testing for impairment instead of the presence of a chemical or its metabolites will catch not only the stoners and drunks, but also the ones who don't get enough sleep, or otherwise are a danger to their co-workers, and more importantly, not catch the people who had a beer or a joint last night after work and aren't impaired now.
And how, exactly, would a company objectively test for impairment?

Google is your friend. First result: http://workrights.us/?products=impairment-testing-does-it-work
There are several methods.
I don't care to read a 200 page paper on the subject.  Just give a quick summary - what are ways that a company can objectively test for impairment?


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SaintDevil on November 08, 2012, 07:56:58 PM
Quote
In Colorado, voters approved Amendment 64  that supports the legalization of marijuana on a recreational basis and will amend the state constitution to legalize and regulate the production, possession, and distribution of marijuana for persons age 21 and older. Article XVIII of the constitution of the state of Colorado would be amended by the addition of a new section: ‘Personal Use and Regulation of Marijuana.’ Regarding the workplace, Section 16(6)(a) states:
“Nothing in this section is intended to require an employer to permit or accommodate the use, consumption, possession, transfer, display, transportation, sale or growing or marijuana in the workplace or to affect the ability of employers to have policies restricting the use of marijuana by employees.”

In Washington, voters supported Initiative 502  that will legalize and regulate the production, possession, and distribution of marijuana for persons age 21 and older. The Washington referendum called for a 25% tax rate imposed when the grower sells marijuana to the processor, when the processor sells marijuana to the retailer, and when the retailer sells marijuana to the customer. Estimates for how much tax revenue the Washington measure would create run as high as $500 million.
Concerning the workplace, State Drug Testing Laws Monthly reports Initiative 502 does not address if the decriminalization of recreational marijuana use requires workplace accommodation but does say the Washington State Institute for Public Policy must create reports on the effects of marijuana that must specifically include the effects on the workplace.
Source:
http://www.esrcheck.com/wordpress/2012/11/08/marijuana-legalization-legislation-passed-in-colorado-and-washington-could-affect-workplace-drug-testing/


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 07:58:44 PM
That is only because alcohol is harder to measure than cannabis. Where I work, we sometimes have to take a random trip to the clinic for a pee test and alcohol breathilizer. So they are measuring alcohol use. And before I started this job I took the pee test and breathed into the machine. While few people would be drunk going into a job interview, I suppose doing the test screens out the real screwballs.

All a UA proves is that you used a chemical. It tests for metabolites. It proves that your system has processed a chemical. Testing for impairment instead of the presence of a chemical or its metabolites will catch not only the stoners and drunks, but also the ones who don't get enough sleep, or otherwise are a danger to their co-workers, and more importantly, not catch the people who had a beer or a joint last night after work and aren't impaired now.
And how, exactly, would a company objectively test for impairment?

Google is your friend. First result: http://workrights.us/?products=impairment-testing-does-it-work
There are several methods.
I don't care to read a 200 page paper on the subject.  Just give a quick summary - what are ways that a company can objectively test for impairment?
One of the methods used: http://www.eyedynamics.com/products.htm
Another: http://www.bowles-langley.com/job-safety/
And one more: http://www.pmifit.com/

All three of these have proven results.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SgtSpike on November 08, 2012, 08:03:05 PM
That is only because alcohol is harder to measure than cannabis. Where I work, we sometimes have to take a random trip to the clinic for a pee test and alcohol breathilizer. So they are measuring alcohol use. And before I started this job I took the pee test and breathed into the machine. While few people would be drunk going into a job interview, I suppose doing the test screens out the real screwballs.

All a UA proves is that you used a chemical. It tests for metabolites. It proves that your system has processed a chemical. Testing for impairment instead of the presence of a chemical or its metabolites will catch not only the stoners and drunks, but also the ones who don't get enough sleep, or otherwise are a danger to their co-workers, and more importantly, not catch the people who had a beer or a joint last night after work and aren't impaired now.
And how, exactly, would a company objectively test for impairment?

Google is your friend. First result: http://workrights.us/?products=impairment-testing-does-it-work
There are several methods.
I don't care to read a 200 page paper on the subject.  Just give a quick summary - what are ways that a company can objectively test for impairment?
One of the methods used: http://www.eyedynamics.com/products.htm
Another: http://www.bowles-langley.com/job-safety/
And one more: http://www.pmifit.com/

All three of these have proven results.
Those are pretty cool TBH!  I agree with impairment testing.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: AndrewBUD on November 08, 2012, 08:04:43 PM
A large percentage of construction workers in Canada smoke pot all day long while working..... IMO it doesn't impair you enough to affect your job. It should not make a difference if someone wants to smoke on their own free time.

It boggles the mind how it can be okay for someone to drink but not smoke weed...


If I drank 10 beers. I wouldn't be functioning normal for 2 days afterwards... If I smoked 10 joints I would be fine after my nap......





Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 08, 2012, 08:08:18 PM
Those are pretty cool TBH!  I agree with impairment testing.
Much smarter than checking for evidence that you've sobered up, huh?

If I drank 10 beers. I wouldn't be functioning normal for 2 days afterwards... If I smoked 10 joints I would be fine after my nap......
Assuming you made it to 10 before the nap...


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: SgtSpike on November 08, 2012, 08:12:07 PM
Those are pretty cool TBH!  I agree with impairment testing.
Much smarter than checking for evidence that you've sobered up, huh?
Yes.  I mean, I don't agree with illegal drug usage or anything (nor do I agree with marijuana usage, but w/e), but it does make sense to test on the capability for a person to do their job vs what they've done to themselves last night.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: AndrewBUD on November 08, 2012, 08:15:18 PM
Those are pretty cool TBH!  I agree with impairment testing.
Much smarter than checking for evidence that you've sobered up, huh?

If I drank 10 beers. I wouldn't be functioning normal for 2 days afterwards... If I smoked 10 joints I would be fine after my nap......
Assuming you made it to 10 before the nap...



LoL yeah..... 10 joints would probably make me puke.. same with 10 beers....


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: dank on November 08, 2012, 08:28:01 PM
Lightweight. :)


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: BitcoinCoffee.com on November 09, 2012, 04:17:10 AM
The fed's might put up a weak fight, but they understand the inevitability. They knew this was coming. Now that Obama is re-elected for his last term, and the states are firming their ground, while medicalization keeps rapidly growing, I see more states to follow the legalization trend in the future.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 09, 2012, 04:23:27 AM
The fed's might put up a weak fight, but they understand the inevitability. They knew this was coming. Now that Obama is re-elected for his last term, and the states are firming their ground, while medicalization keeps rapidly growing, I see more states to follow the legalization trend in the future.

NORML is simultaneously throwing the hugest party ever, and shitting their shorts. "Woooo! We're winning!.... Oh, shit, this means we'll have to get real jobs."


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: niko on November 09, 2012, 04:28:41 AM
Lost profit for SR.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: myrkul on November 09, 2012, 04:38:36 AM
Lost profit for SR.

Not necessarily. The prices might go down a little as more product comes in, but I suspect they'll make it up in volume. Just because it's legal for anyone to buy it now in a few states doesn't mean that they won't like the convenience of picking it up in the mail.

And besides, now those two states will become the biggest suppliers for the domestic market. If I were an SR merchant, selling weed, I'd move to Denver.


Title: Re: 2 U.S. States Legalize Adult Consumption of Cannabis
Post by: BitcoinCoffee.com on November 09, 2012, 08:24:36 AM
Exactly ^^.

SR will not change; in fact, this legalization-- in which will harbor full scale commercial production-- will likely make the legal states the only place where vending weed is profitable, given enough time.

With legalization comes mass production. With mass production comes lower prices = greater profit margin.

'Mass' in this sense can be used respectively. Don't assume giant, open crop field 'massive'. If too big, the quality of the bud will be greatly affected, as cannabis growing requires attentiveness and knowledge to produce 'medical' grade.