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P.S. We reserve the right to close or change this promotion at any time

Reserved for listing of participants

 1 - user MP: retlus                  5000 bits guarantee send
 2 - user MP: Hexcoin               5000 bits guarantee send
 3 - user MP: DarkMatters          5000 bits guarantee send
 4 - user MP: zz11
 5 - user MP: huggy                  5000 bits guarantee send
 6 - user MP: yahoo                  5000 bits guarantee send
 7 - user MP: panjul07                5000 bits guarantee send
 8 - user MP: Cybernick              5000 bits guarantee send
 9 - user MP: rozee                    5000 bits guarantee send
10 - user MP: 1aguar                  5000 bits guarantee send
11 - user MP: webcreator            5000 bits guarantee send
12 - user MP: Rmcdermott927      5000 bits guarantee send
13 - user MP: jikin                      5000 bits guarantee send
14 - user MP: Everybitbit
15 - user MP: katerniko1             5000 bits guarantee send
16 - user MP: dooglus                 5000 bits guarantee send
17 - user MP:

i want to join
user MP: retlus

very interesting, I will participate as soon as possible and I hope you win

thank you very much for joining this generous free contest. as soon we will have 10 user listed we will ask all to deposit the guarantee to be sure that all will participate.

good luck and feel free to ask any questions you like

hi

sorry but I did not understand your posting. you want to participate and you wish whom to win ???

count me in

MP Username: Hexcoin

Hi sign me up DarkMatters  :D

sign me up, username zz11

Hi DarkMatters

great that you signed up

good luck and it will be fun ( I promise )

I am in  ;D

user name huggy

I'll help ya get this contest going. Count me in username yahoo.

Nice promo JPR and glad to see that you'll launch a new game.
Let me join this promo username : panjul07 but please put my name on the 7th place hehe because I like number 7

Thanks

Let me join this ;)
Interesting contest. Placed me any number
Thank you

@huggy
@yahoo
@panjul07
@Cybernick

thank you guys for registering. you are listed and we have now 8 participants.

We can't promise you that you will win the contest :) but we promise that you
will not lose one bit :)

good luck guys

please let me join :)
MP username rozee thank you

I am in.
User: 1aguar

Im in, webcreator my username

Please add me
User: Rmcdermott927

Please add me
name=jikin and my deposit https://blockchain.info/tx/050860362ee86858a239e11e5cc076c4035189625ec5aeff9d8b0c7c18ba16aa

These two rules seem conflicting:


Do you reserve the right to change the bit about you giving us our deposit and stake back?

What's the point of having any rules at all when you end it with "any of this can change at any time"? It means we have no idea what we're really agreeing to.

Other than that I would be interested.

@1aguar
@webcreator
@Rmcdermott927
@jikin

thank you all for registering. we will soon post the next steps to get the contest started.

good luck

hi

thank you for registering

I am sure you mean that your deposit was made to moneypot account. I know that our contest rules and handling could be confusing :) so please let me explain in my simple english how it should work.

we will ask here in thread and by PM all registered users to send 5k bits to Jackpotracer (moneypot account) or to any trusted moneypot member in case some users will not trust us.

the moment we received from minimum 10 registrants the 5k bits guarantee we will announce the starting time of the contest. hopefully we can set the starting time for today at 15:00 GMT and if it will not be acceptable for all registrants we will set it for tomorrow 15:00 GMT. we will send 1-2 minutes before the contest starts the login credentials to each participant. to start wagering you will need to login and deposit 5k bits and after you start to wager we will send you the deposited guarantee of 5k bits. in case you lose the 5k bits deposit we will refund it in full. for example the contest ends and you still have 2k bits on your account you would need to wager even after the contest ends till you are in profit and and you decide to keep the profit or you will lose the 2k bits = all 5k bits to get the full refund.

I hope I could make it understandable. if not please ask :)

hello dooglus

thank you for the posting and interest in our contest.

we don't want to disappoint our participants and we don't intend to cheat the participants out of the 5k bits guarantee or the additional 5k bits to wager at our contest.

we offered to deposit the guarantee with any trusted member. as we explained in thread we just don't want to be in a situation that we have 10 registrants and 5 of them are fake. if all 10 would be users like dooglus :) or any other loyal customer that we have we would not ask for a guarantee ( no offense intended vis-avis other unknown registrants) but we need to handle it for all users alike. some of the registered users know us from the other 2 app we own on moneypot and we had and have a no chance to lose promo with 5k bits deposit running. that means they trust us and it would be stupid from our side to run away with those bits :)

we always add the sentence P.S. We reserve the right to close or change this promotion at any time at the end of our promos because we don't know what could happen. but the 5k bits wagering deposit we will always refund in case of full loss or lets say we need to stop the contest in case of a ddos attack etc and the user lost 2k bits of his 5k bits deposit we will refund the loss. and reschedule the contest.

for example we had a wager contest running with our Jackpotracer app and had a ddos attack and stopped the contest and restarted it at a later date.

and please let me add that to offer a contest where the winner is the one who has most profit at the end of the contest is not an easy task and not a profitable one on moneypot because the app owners are getting paid according to the wager amount. this is the reason why all app owners are offering a wager contest.

this game idea was intended to be a multiplayer game/table but moneypot API does not yet allow multiplayer option.

and to be frank we really don't know how it will work out. but we will do all we can that it will succeed
and be fun for all participants. we also appreciate (as posted) every idea a user might have to organize this contest in a better way.

anyway we would be delighted if you would participate at our contest. please reconsider your participation at our contest.

please apologize my bad english :)

ok I have a deposit of 5000 bits means I have to deposit 5000 bits again? that later I can tell from acons moneypot to Texas Hold'em All-In 5000bits what bits 10000? help in clarifying again because I am a bit confused and another maximum of only 50bits Wager? if possible to start the contest tomorrow? This evening I was busy possibilities

hi

thank you for the questions and sorry for the confusion.

5000 bits you need to send to Jackpotracer moneypot account as soon we will announce the start time and date of the contest. this is a guarantee that you will particpate at the contest.

to participate at the contest you need to deposit at start of the contest 5000 bits to start wagering.
the moment you start wagering Jackpotracer will send you the 5000 bits guarantee you deposited with him.

in case you lose the 5000 bits during or after the contest we will refund the lost 5000 bits

the maximum wager rule of 50 bits is for us to be sure that no one will wager the 5000 bits on one hand. we want that the participants will (hopefully) wager a lot. even it is not a wager contest we don't want that the contest ends in 5 minutes because all participants will wager 5000 bits on one hand.

I hope you understand my point.

if you have any questions please ask until all points are understood by you a 100%

we will schedule the contest for tomorrow 15:00 GMT under the condition that minimum 10 users will send the guarantee till tomorrow to Jackpotracer moneypot account.

good luck

ok my sent 5000bits untuk guarantee https://blockchain.info/tx/c39e6c57a3ce2ee827ec7c957c972511ecd91b695c23a69007807352b9b70279

hi

it looks that you don't understood. you need to send from your moneypot account the 5000 bits guarantee
to user JackpotRacer moneypot account. it goes directly within moneypot

please let me know if you have any questions

I have to tell where the guarantee fund which 5000 bits?

sorry but I don't understand.

you have to send the 5000 bits guarantee from your moneypot account ( there is a button send) to JackpotRacer

what is your language ? maybe I can translate it and you will understand it better

 What I transfer to one of these players?
1 - pengguna MP: retlus
 2 - pengguna MP: Hexcoin
 3 - pengguna MP: DarkMatters
 4 - pengguna MP: zz11
 5 - pengguna MP: huggy                  
 6 - pengguna MP: yahoo                
 7 - pengguna MP: panjul07              
 8 - pengguna MP: Cybernick
 9 - pengguna MP: rozee                  
10 - pengguna MP: 1aguar              
11 - pengguna MP: webcreator          
12 - pengguna MP: Rmcdermott927
13 - pengguna MP: Jikin
14 - pengguna MP:
15 - pengguna MP:

no! please send it to JackpotRacer

ok I have sent to jackpotracer please cek

please login into your moneypot account = silahkan login ke Anda moneypot account dan mengisi formulir seperti

http://screencast.com/t/fejnr48l (http://screencast.com/t/fejnr48l)

I paid as well

ok done sent

Interested contest. But can i know are we all playing this together in 1 table or how its goin to play?

hi

thank you very much for the generous transfer of 50 000 bits :)

will send back now 45k :)

maybe next contest will be 50k fee :)

confirming and noted

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1232511.msg12838606#msg12838606
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1232511.msg12838606#msg12838606)

the contest will start tomorrow at 15:00 GMT

good luck

hi

thank you for the question. but I didn't see your name in the registration list. did you register and we missed it?

that is a very good question. all participants will have their own table like in our roulette or jackpotracer app. it would be very nice if we could provide all participants with a multiplayer table :) it would be even more than very nice :) because each player could see what the other players are wagering.

moneypot API at this stage does not allow a multiplayer table. and sadly all our 3 games are made for multiplayer option. we hopefully will soon offer a multiplayer option.

good luck

ok thanks

Please register me. Look fun.. anyways if i lose all 5000bits it will refunded isnt it.
MP: Everybitbit
Will send guarantee fund tomorrow.

Thank you

just a suggestion for the future, that made all the players at the table as pokershibes.eu and will definitely be a lot of demand bitspoker.com I biaa play in it

thank you very much for registering. you are listed
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1232511.msg12838606#msg12838606 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1232511.msg12838606#msg12838606)

yes if you lose the full 5000 bits you will get refund. but please be aware and let me give you an example what could happen. lets say at the end of the contest you have 2000 bits still on your account. to get the refund you will need to wager till you lost all or you will be in profit and in case of profit you decide when to take it and withdraw it.

I hope I could make my point understandable.

the contest will start tomorrow at 15:00 GMT and we will send all participants the same time the login credentials. it will be by PM and 1-2 minutes before start of contest

good luck and please don't forget to deposit the 5k guarantee before contest starts :)

Hi another question please..
I need total 10k bits isnt it? 5k send to ur account.. and another 5k for me to betting in there? What about if i lose my 5k. And u gave me back the one i send to you? So i still losing 5k bits?
Correc me if im wrong

thank you for the question and glad you are asking :) it will help also all other users to understand it better

you need to send the 5k guarantee to user jackpotracer on moneypot before the contest starts

you need to deposit at start of contest another 5k and start wagering. as soon you start to wager we will send the guarantee back to your moneypot account

and if you lose the 5k deposit for contest wagering you get full refund

I hope this helps and if not please don't be shy to ask :)

Thank you for this. I understand all now :D
Will make deposit on moneypot tomorrow and will pm you after done deposit.

hi

yes we have to agree with you. multiplayer table is much more fun for all players. but as I mentioned
before the moneypot API doesn't allow a multiplayer table at this stage.

we are very eager to offer a multiplayer table and a real H2H table where 2 players will sit together and wager against each other :)

good luck and lets see your feedback after the contest

Hello im still a bit confused, where should i send those 5k bits to JackpotRacer or Texas Hold'em All-In or both(5k each)?

Here's my understanding of the process. I hope JackpotRacer will correct me if I'm wrong:

1. Send 5k to JackpotRacer now
2. Deposit 5k to the app when the game starts

Here's how to do the first step:

Go to https://www.moneypot.com/me/send/to-user

Fill out the form like this:

https://i.imgur.com/e6oD89y.png

To do the 2nd step:

Go to https://www.moneypot.com/apps/695-texas-holdem-all-in

Enable the app.

Deposit 5000 bits.

thank you for the clear explanation. but to be frank the most I liked is the Memo  ;D

Thank you, i understand now  ;D

OK, I'm in then.

I'll send the 5000 now.

Do I have to wait until tomorrow to deposit the other 5000?

Great!

you can wait with the deposit of the other 5000 till contest starts.

we very much appreciate your participation because in our opinion every player and game operator can learn from you. especially we as non-coder :) and also elder generation :)

good luck

5000 bits sent to user: JackpotRacer

MP Username: Hexcoin

thank you very much for participating.

14 participants right now

good luck

here is the final list  of the participants. very important for you so each user can check the stats all the time during the contest

1 - user MP: retlus                 
 2 - user MP: Hexcoin         
 3 - user MP: DarkMatters         
4 - user MP: zz11
 5 - user MP: huggy               
 6 - user MP: yahoo               
 7 - user MP: panjul07             
 8 - user MP: Cybernick           
 9 - user MP: rozee                   
10 - user MP: 1aguar               
11 - user MP: webcreator         
12 - user MP: Rmcdermott927     
13 - user MP: jikin                     
14 - user MP: Everybitbit
15 - user MP: katerniko1           
16 - user MP: dooglus     

sending out now the login credentials

good luck         

o shit, i just woke up. am i too late?

why bail is returned? what is canceled or delayed?

bail is returned because you participated and wagered :)

we will inform all by PM and here as soon the bug is fixed

sorry for the inconvenience

just for info

we had to cancel the contest because of a serious bug

coders are taking care but don't know yet how long it will take

we will inform you here and by PM

please don't try to enter the site because we changed the login credentials till bug is fixed and contest is rescheduled

sorry for the inconvenience

I just PM'ed you saying that the credentials you PM'ed me don't work. Then I saw this post, so ignore the PM please.

hello

yes saw the PM now. coders are working now to fix it. but we don't understand after testing it with many bets and the bug only showed up now during start of contest :(

we agreed with all the players who started already to stop and fix the bug and then reschedule the contest. all users who lost at the start because we stopped the contest will be refunded so they will have the 5k again to start and the users who had profit should just keep it and withdraw it.

we will send you and the other users who did not show up yet and also cant login now the 5k guarantee back.

sorry again

What's the bug? Can I help you fix it?


I showed up but couldn't get in.

we have send you and all the others the 5 k guarantee back.

thanks for offering to help really very much appreciated. maybe I will contact you with another question through some day if you don't mind?

the bug is that the hand ranking was mixed up. a user had a straight and lost against 2 pairs :(

coders are working already to fix the hand ranking. they said it is connected to the straight with ace as lowest card in the straight. anyway we told them to set it up from scratch to be on the sure side.

thanks again for offer to help

This might help:

  http://stackoverflow.com/a/20715903/1253362

thanks again. I forwarded it to coders. but as I saw it it was for 5 cards and not 7 cards but I am not a coder:(

It's easy enough to make it work for any number of cards using a recursive step:


Edit: I posted full source code (http://stackoverflow.com/a/33486015/1253362) for a hold'em hand evaluator.

i hope this is getting fixed soon :D
it was fun
regards.
-Katerniko1

What does your game do in the event of a split pot?

If the board is a royal flush, say, it's a ten-way split pot. It's also possible to have a 4 or less way split (with a board 9TJQK, and 2-4 players each have an ace, say). I don't think it's possible to have a pot that splits between 5 and 9 ways.

I guess the correct thing to do is to pay out 1/N times as much as if the pot is won uncontested, where N is the number of people splitting the pot.

hi

just for info coder came back now with the answer that it was a straight ranking bug and it is fixed now.

regarding your question

it is not a multiplayer table (PvP) as players are used to. at the 10 seat table the user is playing alone at the table and betting on one or more seats and always all-in. there is no event of a split. we adjusted the game for now to the money API and for each bet there is always a winner and no tie.

the H2H table is also different than players are used to. also here we adjusted the game to moneypot API.

the best will be to understand the game that you will have some bets at both tables.

we want to reschedule the contest and will send out a PM to all participants to suggest to us what time is best for them and we will adjust the time for tomorrow tuesday to start the contest again.

thank you

i think that contest needs to be resumed (with restart of balance to 5k bits)
as bug is fixed it should be resumed asap :D
atleast thats what everyone else is doing, lets say in some texas online poker tournoment when something is bugged they pause it and resume the game (which i personaly saw playing on pokerstars tourney)
regards.
-Katerniko1

@all contest participants

the bug is fixed. it was a straight ranking bug ( coder explanation )

we want to set a new start date and time and would like to set the start of the contest for tomorrow
(tuesday). all users are asked to post their preferred time for tomorrow and we will try to find a time that could fit for all.

we will send a PM to all participants with the same question to be sure that they will have the chance to tell us their opinion.

sorry again for the inconvenience (sh*t happens)

edit:
each user who ended after the contest was stopped in profit should please withdraw the profit and leave 5k on the account for the new start. the users who had a loss please let us know the loss and we will send it to you so you will have 5k for starting the new scheduled contest. all participants will start with 5k

you also have to send me a PM,how to join?

you didn't register for the contest. so there is no reason to send you a PM

sorry....maybe next time

Yes, it's a 48 hour game, and only 6 hours were lost due to the bug. You should reopen it now and let us have the remaining 42 hours to compete.


I understand that it's not a true multiplayer game, but you're dealing hole cards to 10 players, then dealing 5 board cards. Assuming the deck isn't rigged then it's possible for multiple people to have the best hand. What if the 5 board cards are T,J,Q,K,A, rainbow? Everyone ties.

Are you saying the board never appears like that because the shuffle isn't random? Or what are you saying? Why won't a tie ever happen?

Edit: I just checked a random hand (https://www.moneypot.com/bets/143075810) and it looks like the game kind of works backwards. You use moneypot to pick a winning seat number at random from 1 to 10, and then arrange the deck to make the selected player win. That explains why there's never a tie - because we're not playing poker, we're playing something like dice or roulette, with the hands made up after the fact to make it look like poker.

you also have to send me a PM,how to join?
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you didn't register for the contest. so there is no reason to send you a PM

sorry....maybe next time


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but I want to play , how to register ? and where totolino he must give permission for my play .

we have no problem to reopen it but we also would like that each user will start with 5k and not with his profit or loss he had. we are looking for a fair solution. we would prefer to give playmoney for such a kind of contest but we can't.

we are not experts regarding provably fair or moneypot API handling we have to rely on coders. moneypot allows atomic bets/games only. at our poker table the user is wagering on a seat or more than one that means there is no pot as it is on a regular table. the outcome is and must be random in our opinion because it is provably fair. please correct me if I am wrong.
for example if you bet on seat #4 and #5 and the seats tie that means your both bets are a tie and we didn't find a way to solve this kind of outcome. actually the other 8 seats lost but the 2 bets are a tie.
so we agreed to offer this all-in game without a tie. how it is coded? we don't know ( we are not coders) but he game outcome is correct and provably fair. no one is cheated.

thanks again for your question and trying to help

@all contest participants

as a few users would like us to restart the contest we will send out soon the new login credentials

please withdraw the coins you have above 5k and the other user who have less please tellus in chat or PM and we will send it so you can start with 5k

good luck

i withdrawed all profit and my balance is 5k.
thanks for resuming contest soon :D
regards.
-Katerniko1

Well, you could have it so that when there's an N way tie, each of the winning seats gets 9.9/N times the amount they bet.

It looks like moneypot doesn't offer card shuffles as one of its modes, so you have no choice but to fake it using the 'custom bet' endpoint as things stand.

Well, you could have it so that when there's an N way tie, each of the winning seats gets 9.9/N times the amount they bet

not sure if I understood it. do you mean to split the profit and payout both seats? that would mean that this kind of tie would give the player a payout. fine for me (if I understood it right) but how about there will be another seat you didn't bet on but did tie with your 2 seats in this hand? how should we payout this hand?

when we joined moneypot we asked ryan if we can offer multiplayer player table but then he reversed it :( ok he is the boss so we adjusted our games.

but we are still aiming to offer multiplayer tables and if not with moneypot then we need to go outside and give it a try.

thank you again for trying to help. very much appreciated

Again, I understand that the games are not multi-player.

I am talking about how to pay out when multiple seats have the best hand.

I don't think it is possible to make a game where that can happen on moneypot, so it doesn't really happen.

But if you could, then I think paying each winner 9.9/N times their stake would be the fair way to do it.

If two hands tie for the best hand, one of them is owned by the player and the other by the house, you would pay (9.9/2)x to the player. You don't pay the house anything, of course.

If two hands tie for the best hand and they're both owned by the player, you pay both of them (9.9/2)x. If they both staked the same (which they would, given how the game is currently set up) then the end result would be the same as picking just one of them and paying it 9.9x.

--

I've been playing the contest for an hour or so. It's more fun than I expected it would be.

I was thinking that knowing that the winner was picked at random, and then the cards 'made up' to get the required result would spoil the feel of the game, but the illusion is pretty good. It feels like watching a poker hand play out.

According to the moneypot user page stats:


... but that includes profits and losses from before the hand-raking bug was fixed I guess.

It's possible to hit the 'restart' button right after hitting 'deal'. It ends up with the screen getting corrupted - here I have 3 'winner' markers:

https://i.imgur.com/URADDP3.png

Subtracting the data from before the reset:

the contest is still ongoing ..?? I will join

its closed,
and sorry for jacpotracer cant join you guys.
thanks for understanding. good luck all participants

I nearly won 16k bits - but didn't...

https://i.imgur.com/vBMbCzD.png

Top 3 contest leaders are

1st    darkmatters       2000.12
2nd   dooglus                1145.30
3rd   1aguar                    232.72

already out of contest

rmcdermott927
yahoo
Cybernick
Katerniko1

the rest of registered participants did not yet started to wager

the last stats

Top 4 contest leaders are

1st        panjul07              6530.60
2nd       darkmatters       2000.12
3rd       dooglus                1145.30
4th       1aguar                    232.72

already out of contest

rmcdermott927
yahoo
Cybernick
Katerniko1

srry im late was very busy, am i still can join?

yes sure you were one of the registered users who also deposited the guarantee

you should have the new login credentials if not please let me know and I send it again

come join in :)

the top 4 after panjul's disqualification


1st   jikin                6,453.48
2nd darkmatters      6,375.04
3rd  dooglus            1,485.30
4th  1aguar                232.72


already out of contest

retlus
panjul
rmcdermott927
yahoo
Cybernick
Katerniko1

In case anyone missed it, during the contest you aren't allowed to bet more than 50 bits per seat.

The game will let you do it, but it's against the rules.

It would be nice if the game enforced the max-bet per seat limit to prevent people from accidentally betting too high.

fully agree with you regarding the option "enforcing the max bet per seat limit" but as  I mentioned before the most balance contest was a last minute decision and is not an easy task with moneypot API. but to be frank we like the most balance contest more than the most wager contest but moneypot system is much better for a most wagered contest.

in our JPR app we have a leaderboard for most wagered contests and a backend for a lot of stuff also the option to limit bets.

right now the hold'em app is full client side. we really try our best to please all participants. the next most balance contest should be better as we learned a lot and also with your very helpful feedbacks and suggestions :)

thanks

Can I know the points today? I still No. 1?

thanks for the great competition  ;D

Unofficial standings:

update please?

please understand that we can't update the standings each minute. you should checkit also on your own. there are only a few participants left so checking at what rank you are is easy.

we will update as often as we can and as often it will make sense. and as you see that user dooglus is very helpful and posting very often updated stats

good luck all

last top 4 as of now

1st   jikin               9,019.28
2nd  darkmatters    8,251.84
3rd   dooglus          2,849.30
4th   1aguar               232.72


already out of contest

retlus
panjul
rmcdermott927
yahoo
Cybernick
Katerniko1

edit:
as some user suggested we have changed the closed hand dealing of the 2 hole cards. they are dealt now open. you need refresh the site. please give us some feedback if it is better now or suspense is missing?

Whether this event has ended

hi

thank you for the question. the contest ends today at 15:00 GMT and after end of contest
and winner announcement we will open the game app for all

leader stats 2 hours before end of contest

last top 4 as of now

1st   jikin               9,019.28
2nd  darkmatters    8,251.84
3rd   1aguar               232.72


        huggy               -986


already out of contest

dooglus
retlus
panjul
rmcdermott927
yahoo
Cybernick
Katerniko1

1 minut to finis

thanks admin for the first 0:07 bonus winners + 0018 balance already entered I wait for the next contest ;)

Why am I occur this message, should I have any Authorization to join the site ?

I have explained about this in their official thread, but since you ask it here so here is the answer :
This site is not opened to public yet, so the only members who can open the site are they who join the first contest (they got the credentials details to login). But since the contest is already finished, so I think this site will open to public soon. So you have to be patient and wait :)

right now no one can connect to the app. the contest ended and we will open it soon for all users and no login credentials will be needed

thank you for the question

congrats for the winner

Yeah, well done you two.

Last night I found myself a good 6k behind you both, and figured my only hope of catching you was to win the royal flush jackpot, so I played all 10 seats over and over with JP turned on, hoping to hit. The new fast-mode made it possible to play through my balance relatively quickly, but I didn't hit the pot.

If only this jack was a club:

https://i.imgur.com/vtDYNIz.png

if you get a Jack and win one

that would have been very nice if some one would hit  the Royal Flush Jackpot
during the contest  :)