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if you are accusing someone for something then you must provide a valid evidence .
specially if you are accusing staff members.

Here: 

http://i63.tinypic.com/vipe39.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/iv8e3d.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/zyiu4h.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/bdk5jn.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/jryarn.jpg

And Here my TRUST:

http://i68.tinypic.com/wgvzm8.jpg

Interesting case. Even though I have zero Italian skills it is obvious that those are bumps. Have you reported such posts or not? Sometimes (depends on activity, how many moderators handle the section, etc.) we do not see people who do not delete bumps and such (we need people to report). Have you tried talking directly to HostFat?

HostFat? He Know all people of the forum. But if someone is his friend, he don't take any position.....  ::)

DomMic is an alt account of FX_trader (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=513849).

FX_trader has multiple scam accusation:

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1195356.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175224.msg12442622#msg12442622


He tries to earn money gambling other peoples money in forex.
He created this account (DomMic) after he lost all the founds with his old account.

He promises to refund 50% of the losses and He didn't.

Now he is raging like He did before (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1195356.msg12589040#msg12589040) saying bullshit to defame me and the other people that left him neg trust.

Its all italian and i doubt any english speaker MOD can understand that ...the one who can is hostfat .
on a side note just let it go ,I dont think hostfat is going to get neg-repped for it ....dosent matters if you are wright or wrong.

No matter Friend. I only report that i'm not the only.

Good Luck.

Trust is not moderated. Anyone can give you a negative rating for just about anything if they feel it is justified or not (which is the case with spammers/trolls and whatnot). I do not care about your negative trust. I am, however interested in those undeleted bumps.

I tried helping you, and you reply with nonsense.

Sorry Lauda, I only try to say that HostFat don't take any position about abuse of other user he know, he "protect " them. Then, i remember for example, a "war" against a new Exchanger (the user is Bitnow - see the non sense trust https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=497151  - see the topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1096711.20 ) where some user try to let him a negative impression  only to protect their interest, and Hotfast don't take any position !

Those profiles you showed in screenshots are all legit: they are a few of my returning customers.

By the way we give you negative feedback not because you are an alt account per se, but because your previous account has a scam accusation not yet settled and you created this new account to (try to) clean your rep and continue with the exact same business that originated the scam accusation, without addressing the previous dispute.

This behaviour is shady and untrustworthy, to say the least. You cannot be trusted for that kind of service you try to offer under these conditions.

Regards.

No Matter Ghibly. You are not the one to have multiple account to bump Your selling post.

Regards.

Exactly, I am not "the one".
Though I'm pretty sure you meant "you are not the only one", your broken english actually helped you stating the truth in this case ;)


Either way it's pretty irrelevant for your case, which is not about fake accounts.

The problem of italians is that:
- Many doesn't know english (than this make it hard for them using exchanges)
- They are used to use cash, and so they aren't comfortable on using bank transfers.
- Many of them prefer to use cash to maintain a good anonymity

This create a situation where there are a lot of REAL newbies that come to buy Bitcoin from the sellers available in our market section.
Then, this make it really hard to find who is a clone/fake and who is not.

If the forum would be able to give us (Staff) a least if an user is using the IP of someone else, I'll be happily using it.
But now there isn't, and I try to maintain the benefit of the doubt on our section.


I even tried to make a threat agaist "possible" sellers that are making fake account:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1120461.0


It's something like:
If I'll find a fake feedback I'll give you a negative trust
Then you know, you will be fucked, think hard about it.


Now about FX_trader.
He owes money to an italian user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1195356.0), and then I found that there is another user that wants back his money (And maybe, even others):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175224.msg12442622#msg12442622
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1198054.msg12580337#msg12580337

I think that FX_trader isn't so crafty, it was really easy to catch him

HostFat, no matter. It's your time now and all people should see how you "protect" a little group of user on italian section.

You could say i'm a scammer, but i'm not a stupid, and i think that other user could see that all accusation against you in this tread are true.

"If the forum would be able to give us (Staff) a least if an user is using the IP of someone, I'll be happily using it.
But now there isn't, and I try to maintain the benefit of the doubt on our section."

Well, you don't have the same doubt about DomMIC  - FXTRADER but let that some user became "Member RANK" only bumbing the same post!!!!!!!

This user ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=484149 )  is only ONE of a lot of same fake user - this user becam a MEMBER -, and HostFat don't take any position!

See here:

http://i68.tinypic.com/34s5ted.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/2s10me8.jpg

In the market section I've made a rule where it isn't possible to bump the thread more that one time in 24 hours.

The only allowed way to have more "bumps", is by the "thanks" from their customers.

So, sellers are directly asking to their customers to write thanks.

Then yes, they are "bumps", but they are legitimate.

They are not (legitimate) if they comes from fake/clone of customers (made from the same sellers)
But this put back the problem on what I wrote, it isn't easy to find them.


You were really easy to catch.
I thought that you where FX_trader from your first message on the italian section, but I wasn't sure.
That I found your messages on the other english sections, and you were making the same things.

HostFat, please: all people could see that they comes from fake/clone of customers made from the same sellers.

I've a discussion with all the "probably" legitimate sellers about this problem.
They say that there are "other" sellers that are using fake accounts, but I usually say to them that I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

Again, I've even wrote this in the hope to lower the problem.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1120461.0

This discussion is going in circle  ::)

Exactly. That user trades with me like twice per day, so I sometimes ask him to bump my thread, like I do with every other customer.
As simple as that.

And this kind of "revenge thread" is only ruining your rep more.

Settle your dispute instead of wasting time counterproductively.

I doubt that, can you show pm's between those customers along with transaction ID's prove that they are actual customers?

You are entitled to doubt what you want, of course.
I can maybe find some pms from user Ertys, not sure for the other one as we communicate via telegram/skype usually (and no, for his privacy I can't show his telegram messages ;) ).
Can't show his transactions either cause he wants to keep his address private and I respect my customers' privacy more than some random scammer revenge accusations.

I doubt that a User go to bitcointalk only for buy from Ghibly. As i doubt that moderator doesn't know the matter...

It's more like they register to buy btc, see my thread (it's pretty flashy with a ton of views/replies ;) ) and then become returning customers. Pretty straightforward.

As HostFat said it is impossible to find an alt account, without the IP check (but it is so easy to change or hide the ip address). So there isn't the 100% of security that those are real alt account, I suggest you to close this useless thread because you don't have valid proofs.

 ;D  ::)

What probe do you need too?????

Be Realistic!

I'll wait for your 100%-sure-solution to catch fake accounts, but before developing it, you should give back the money to your unlucky customers.

HostFat seems to think these are actual customers of the OP of the threads they are posting in.

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How do you know he is FX_trader?

edit: yea it is most likely him

This sounds more like a mod pissed off a cry baby.

Furthermore this belongs in SCAM ACCUSATIONS.


~BCX~

I only say that if on a forum we have a moderator that ban and manage the posts, he should be impartial and judge all the abnormal behavior , not just those that are convenient .

The post I reported are false profiles , used for the sole purpose of keeping the treads of sales in the first lines of the pages .

However once the moderator pretends not to see, trying to change the subject of further discussions.

it is irrational to think that there are 4-5 people who just happened to go do some shopping whenever a tread sales fall in the lower rows . Just as it is unreasonable to think that a user is to work on the forum just to comment on the same tread selling the same user .

It's him. He also confirmed it to me via pm. I agreed not to give him negative straight off the bat cause he told me he was going to use this account for other stuff and settle that previous dispute. But he instead proceeded opening another identical thread offering the same service with scammy policies, so the abuse couldn't be ignored any longer.


That'll be you: the subject is your negatives are for another matter (a very solid one), not because this is an alt account. You are trying to drive the attention elsewhere in a quite childish way.


To remark: we didn't -trust him just because it's an alt account. It was because of what he's trying to do by creating it.

And no, of course they don't do the trade exactly when my thread falls. As I already stated some of them trade pretty much everyday (often twice a day, Cameriere) and I ask them to kindly leave me a bumping feedback when I need one (sometimes they do, some other they don't). Common and legit practice among sellers.

Since day 1 i've been telling that OP is an alt of FX_Trader   - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1198054.msg12579945#msg12579945