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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U7K0hJWlnk

What is this Agenda 21? Is it related to Position 69?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21

Strange commercial.

Have edited my post, at first I thought this was for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_2010, didn't even know about this agenda 21

What is this bullshit? The commercial looked more like a euthanasia advertisement than some UN brainfart about developing nigger countries.

True I somehow thought about this when I was watching it:

http://sporeflections.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/soylent_green.jpg?w=490

No really what is agenda 21..?

Ask FirstAscent. I'm sure he'll be able to explain in excruciating detail.

Yes.

Where did Nazis kill their own people? Nazis dreamed about bright future in self-sufficient Europe that is run by nationalistic and socialistic principles. Where profit is equally distributed to working people.

Before Hitler's time there was no nazism. And without Hitler there is no real nazism also :( His ideas will come to life once again and ultimately prove to be superior form of society but for now there is no chance for mononational, social and efficient society to exist.

The conspiracies of present days are a result of work of people who Hitler tried to remove from society. Once You understand that you will clearly see why various seemingly unrelated problems are plaguing society and who is responsible for all of them.

FTFY

Violence breeds violence unless you achieve complete domination. Even then to continue dominating requires violence. If he had tried to implement his ideas in a non violent fashion that would have been respectable. As it happened...

Are You talking about USA, United Kingdom and Russia?Hitler was elected. So his come to power was non-violent.

He wasn't talking about his rise to power. He was talking about the implementation of his approach. You know, the death camps, the slave labor, all that stuff.

And blaming an entire ethnicity for the actions of a few is blatant racism. Imagine if every German was considered a villain because of Hitler's actions.

Most of it is exaggerated and copied from crimes that communistic Russia did. You know, Gulag and so on. Communists killed about 30 million people, take or add few millions. But even if all the hoax about 6+ millions killed by nazis are true, probably there was a serious reason to do this.Why the kikes are disliked by every single nation at any point of history? Think about it! It is not the fault of the nation who is living in they own land, it is the problem of the aliens who are causing problems everywhere they live.Without the so called and self-proclaimed "god chosen people" there will be no such creepy video or other ongoing conspiracies to control, enslave and destroy people.

It would be wise to stop digging before you get much further. Blame Zionists, if you wish, blame the leadership of Israel, if you like, blame the banksters and moneylenders, if you want, but the average Jew neither knows, nor cares, about their machinations.

I put this in another way - I don't know average jews and I don't care about average jews.

No worshiper may rationally and reasonably divorce themselves from the most radical of those benefitting from their support.

This is fairly sensible. But I'd hardly call the guy who kneels and prays to Muhammad for peace and the guy who straps explosives to his chest and runs into a coffee shop followers of the same religion.

So, the only thing anyone here knows about agenda 21 is that it is secretly an evil plan. Yep, that's a crazy conspiracy theory alright.

I guess I do "buy into" the idea of sustainable development. Why would we not want that?

I still don't get it? Someone is behind the UN? Who, and to what end? I see zero evidence of a conspiracy. Planning for a sustainable future is a good idea and someone has to do it.

I call bullshit on that commercial. Killing old people is totally irrelavent to sustainable development. Despite what some nuts might think, the population is fine. It's just how we use our resources which is at issue.

"If it's not an act of god it's a conspiracy." - Jim Marrs

Agenda 21 is a conspiracy, not a "conspiracy theory" and it is real.  

It's funny how many issues written-off as "conspiracy theory" are eventually proven to be true as has been the case over the last couple of decades... What a coincidence.

Not many people know of how the WHO infected tens of millions of Africans with HIV under the guise of an inoculation program in the 70s or that AIDS is and engineered virus developed by Sandia Labs in The States and they've always had the cure.  H1N1, H5N1, the same, engineered viruses.    The whole Joseph Moshe incident in L.A. that was whitewashed in the press the same day and how it indirectly relates to the Swine Flu pandemic/outbreak in the Ukraine that literally closed the borders for days is but the tip of the iceberg.  This crap has been ongoing for a long time and will continue.

There's a couple of "conspiracy theories" for you...

...but they are followers of the same religion, except that guy you are talking about is  re-interpreting scripture more moderately or just cherry-picking moderate scripture to follow (the nice stuff that makes you feel good), whereas the orthodox/fundamentalist/radical does not apply these filters. For the orthadox/radical, God's Word and meaning does not change.

Additionally, that guy you are talking about will have 2.7 kids, and teach them the ways. They in turn will have 2.7 kids each. Most fo them will find, worship, fund, and spread this religion. Some may become part of its orthodoxy. They allow the orthodox/fundamentalist/radical to perform God's Will through their support, recruitment/enlistment, indoctrination, education, funding, and dissemination.

The more we age, the farther we get from God's Word, and this pisses off orthadox believers. True believers. Fire and Brimstone Believers.

Many believe intent is irrelevent.

I think you have that backwards. I can't say for certain with the Islamic radical, since I haven't read the Qur'an full through, but if you read the bible, Jesus never told anyone to go kill in his name. The Fundie's the one applying filters. Which, in my opinion, changes his religion.

It's a little bit more than agenda 20 but not quite as much as agenda 22.

Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde On Red Ice Radio Corrupt WHO, UN Agenda21 The Cull   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5DqU4uridT8)

Ex-Health Minister speaks about UFOs, Aliens, Mind Control & Conspiracies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6LETiq8AeZA#!)

UN Agenda 21 (http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/)

Sorry to bust a party, but there's no conspiracy!
Agenda 21 (Croatian: Plan 21) is currently being carried over in Croatia since the last elections.

http://www.hrt.hr/uploads/pics/kukuriku-koalicija.jpg

And they have said that they will carry it over every single step of it. So far they managed to bring more people and economy on their knees.

It's alright, perfectly harmless, the UN calls it "sustainable development" and "monitoring of consumption"...

Conspiracies aren't always hidden... and sometimes they succeed.

I agree.
The last successfull one here, breaking apart the Balkans region, was not hidden at all but well funded.
There's a decent documentary about 2hrs long "Weight of Chains", here's a trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qi50Mun4RA) and a full movie available on youtube describing the plan and it's execution.

Now, which of these links do you think should be taken seriously?
The aliens are behind plan 21? Goodbye.

I only posted those links because they include conversation on Agenda 21 with a fairly credible ex-government source and had no intention of implying "aliens are behind Agenda 21".

If you're incapable of making such a determination or don't feel any of it worth consideration then my sympathies and whatever melts your butter pal.

I was only quoting your links man. I didn't necessarily think you believed it. But it does reveal how ludicrous the conspiracy theorists ideas are.

Some of that is deliberate - from both sides. Some are looking to discredit the whole group, some are just trying to put out a little "assassination insurance."

Sorry, but I don't keep up with conspiracy theories and speculations about mysterious videos.

I don't think we need to debate conspiracies or conspiracy theories to know that states are malevolent organizations, when the result of statism is pretty clear: 250 million dead corpses, only in the 20th century, excluding wars.

Who needs to determine whether two mafiosi got together to create a plan to filch some coins fromm the people, when the hundred mafiosi have already murdered thousands of people, right?

Thats usually called a loudspeaker or internet, can transmit audio messages over a distance.

I hate to break it to you, but the ad was made by Glenn Beck to promote his dystopian novel about agenda 21. http://www.glennbeck.com/agenda21/

The Blaze is his channel.

Agenda 21 is the action plan of the United Nations 1992 Earth Summit Biodiversity Agenda (http://whatisagenda21.net/agenda21.htm#) to circumvent national and state/regional sovereignty, governments and legislation to take control of everything you value on the local level for the greater good of the collective.

Its taxing everything you do with fees and fines and use local police to enforce it.

The ultimate goal is to end property rights and take control of the worlds land and its limited resources ... which is all thats needed to survive on a rock flying through space by the way. Whoever controls them controls the world and its people.

Rich entitled land owners, bankers, royalty, and multi-national corporate stooges are dividing up the world between them, then telling you its for your own good. They use wealth as a weapon, making us feel bad for busting ass and working hard and doing good, when all they really want is to increase their own while turning you into a slave.

And? No one who did not think Agenda 21 is a crazy conspiracy theory should be convinced by a misleading advertisement from an idiot trying to sell a book. I'm only commenting on the misleading OP, not the existence of Agenda 21.

The commercial is intended to provoke outrage.

Look at the world around you. Take a look at your local municipal code/ordinance/zoning.

The commercial is intended to sell books. And, like other Beck products, it trades on paranoia and fear.

Not saying it is a crazy conspiracy theory, not saying it isn't. Just that the commercial probably isn't your best source of data.

This is not my first bitcointalk Agenda 21 rodeo. The issue has received enormous coverage here with sourced data. No need to reinvent the wheel, son... or get into an endless irrational debate with lefties.

The commercial is intended to provoke outrage.

I could care less if someone sells books with it.

Beck has an enormous audience the issue is reaching that can only be addressed at the state or local level, because the feds are ramming it down our throats and so are our municipalities with their foreign fund money driven ordinances and planning. Its going to take municipalities, counties, and states fighting for their sovereignty to beat it.

Its educating people.

Its helping to wake them up, and I am ALL for that.

time to encrypt everything

It always has been, really. This may actually be a good thing in a roundabout way.

Encryption does not help if it uses X.509 certificates (SSL).  They are broken because various issuing authorities that come in browsers by default are actually government authorities, and they issue certificates to tap SSL traffic like candy.  There's even specialized DPI hardware that will decrypt the original traffic to your computer, read and inspect it, then re-encrypt using these phony certificates, while the user is none the wiser.

Yes, the model for encryption for HTTPS is very broken and wrongheaded. But I was also referring to things like email and IM. Everything should be end-to-end encrypted except that expressly designated for public consumption.

That's when it's time to go to side-channel or steganography.