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Title: 20 llatops mining Post by: gondel on November 04, 2015, 05:41:45 PM Hello All,
I was not able to monitor what is happening in the Bitcoin and Altcoin worlds the last 2-3 months and I am really excited to hear that BTC is going up again. Anyway, The thing what I want to ask is that I have office with 20 laptops which can be running 24/7 without paying for electricity, the thing is most of them are brand new, but are brand Acer 100 or Hp 250 which is something really basic for mining. My question is: Do you have any suggestions of what I can mine with them or what I can do to get some new coins or any altcoin on the market right now? I will also need help from someone may be to help me configure all of them for which I can pay. Please share your comments and your thoughts about such situation, what can I do? THANK IN ADVANCE! Best Regards, Gondel Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: cryptohunter on November 04, 2015, 05:46:26 PM are there any coins that are still only cpu mine only?
Is prime still cpu only? I'm guess your laptops have no powerful gpus in them? Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: gondel on November 04, 2015, 05:49:16 PM are there any coins that are still only cpu mine only? No, their gpus are integrated and will be crap for mining I think. Isnt primecoin already very hard for mining and also too cheap? I used to mine Primecoin in 2013 with 10 laptops with i5 intel and I had some coins back then on very high price, then I decided not to sell them and keep them and I saw how Primecoin is going into the garbage...Is prime still cpu only? I'm guess your laptops have no powerful gpus in them? Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: cryptohunter on November 04, 2015, 05:53:29 PM are there any coins that are still only cpu mine only? No, their gpus are integrated and will be crap for mining I think. Isnt primecoin already very hard for mining and also too cheap? I used to mine Primecoin in 2013 with 10 laptops with i5 intel and I had some coins back then on very high price, then I decided not to sell them and keep them and I saw how Primecoin is going into the garbage...Is prime still cpu only? I'm guess your laptops have no powerful gpus in them? I think Prime will be holding or rising in the future. However nothing of course is certain. Your laptops i think will be only any use with cpu only coins. There are probably others that are cpu only it is just a case of tracking the most profitable of those down. Prime was the only cpu only coin that I remember. Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: EvilDave on November 04, 2015, 08:18:22 PM From a hardware point of view: you are going to kill the laptops at a seriously accelerated rate.
Running GPU or CPU at 100% for extended periods will also lead to heat issues, not to mention the effect on batteries. If no-one is going to object, do it, but if you haven't mentioned this idea to your office manager, expect to get shouted at in 6 months time. >:( Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: gondel on November 05, 2015, 08:05:29 AM Hi all,
thanks for the replies, I am the office manager and want to mine with those pcs. Which coin should I jump on and on which site I can monitor which coin is most profitable to mine right now? Are there any cpu coins which worth the time? Thanks! Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: tokeweed on November 05, 2015, 08:23:13 AM ^ Don't get fired, ok? ;D
Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on November 05, 2015, 08:56:54 AM Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: Corsa1r on November 05, 2015, 03:44:03 PM Poor laptops lol. Your gonna burn them even if they are new
Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: gondel on November 05, 2015, 04:28:24 PM hmmm...let me just ask it another way:
Which alt coin now is good only for CPU mining, I also have heartt some rumors about hdd mining coins? Thanks! Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: tanoury on November 05, 2015, 08:23:16 PM Read this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1198993.0
Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: danieluk9 on November 06, 2015, 03:18:25 AM You should use MinerGate, it mines CPU and GPU if it's available, and has built in features to be hidden from the main screen, and to be run as a service / hidden command prompt etc
https://minergate.com/a/843e05f436bf91cd5b1ca9ae (https://minergate.com/a/843e05f436bf91cd5b1ca9ae) Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: altcoinlinks2 on November 06, 2015, 10:24:16 AM Look into cloud folding and curecoin
Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: bitcoinhopper on November 07, 2015, 08:48:09 PM Hi all, thanks for the replies, I am the office manager and want to mine with those pcs. Which coin should I jump on and on which site I can monitor which coin is most profitable to mine right now? Are there any cpu coins which worth the time? Thanks! Coinwarz let you monitor the most profitable coins of the moment. http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency However for CPU there are not many coins that can usefull for this cause. Burstcoin let you do HD mining (with your harddrive) but you have to create some plots first. Check burstcoin here http://burstcoin.info/ Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: Abiky on November 07, 2015, 11:14:54 PM With 20 laptops, you could easily mine XMG (Coin Magi) which is a CPU minable crypto currency. I think it would be the most efficient way to mine an alt coin and exchange it to Bitcoins by then. Hope this helps. :)
Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: cisahasa on November 11, 2015, 10:05:12 PM please dont kill the laptops..
Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: turkandjaydee on November 12, 2015, 04:01:44 AM i think coin magi is the only cpu that laptop capable of mining,
xmr or dash is getting harder to mine with insanely high total hasrate. Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: n3rvi0zz0 on November 13, 2015, 06:34:59 PM if you're a Manager or Owner of the laptops, you really don't know how to do your work sorry.
Laptops arent for mining. If you wanna mine buy a fucking greedseed and put in your desk you'll earn more than with the 20 laptops. what you been doing in the forum? your rank mind experience or you just post for post? Its Laptops no LLaptos, I know my English is shit but mate at least try to write proper Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: djm34 on November 13, 2015, 06:55:27 PM Hello All, don't forget to buy a fire extinguisher ;D (I am at least half serious)I was not able to monitor what is happening in the Bitcoin and Altcoin worlds the last 2-3 months and I am really excited to hear that BTC is going up again. Anyway, The thing what I want to ask is that I have office with 20 laptops which can be running 24/7 without paying for electricity, the thing is most of them are brand new, but are brand Acer 100 or Hp 250 which is something really basic for mining. My question is: Do you have any suggestions of what I can mine with them or what I can do to get some new coins or any altcoin on the market right now? I will also need help from someone may be to help me configure all of them for which I can pay. Please share your comments and your thoughts about such situation, what can I do? THANK IN ADVANCE! Best Regards, Gondel Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: djm34 on November 13, 2015, 07:00:47 PM if you're a Manager or Owner of the laptops, you really don't know how to do your work sorry. yay you already mined successfully a grammar nazi (and a douche, based on the rest of his message) ;D Laptops arent for mining. If you wanna mine buy a fucking greedseed and put in your desk you'll earn more than with the 20 laptops. what you been doing in the forum? your rank mind experience or you just post for post? Its Laptops no LLaptos, I know my English is shit but mate at least try to write proper (seriously who the fuck do you think you are ? it is an international forum... so expect to find many grammatical error, if you can't stand that, may-be that forum isn't for you... ) Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: n3rvi0zz0 on November 13, 2015, 08:41:49 PM I could not use the translator was on the subway , as I said at least try to write well
Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: Xeelee on November 17, 2015, 03:22:07 PM My cousin was mining with his Laptop Dogecoin. After 1 day it was burned down, it even smoked out of it. Fortunately nothing in addition happened but the Laptop was brocken
Don't do mining at Laptops. Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: Abiky on November 18, 2015, 02:13:08 PM If you are going to mining effectively, try doing this on a desktop PC instead of a laptop, since laptops are not suitable for intensive processes due to their design (which limits good air flow to reduce the heat) A gaming desktop PC would mine lots of alt coins of your choosing. (especially if mined with GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :)
Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: tromp on November 18, 2015, 10:03:12 PM GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :) For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage. Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool... Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: Abiky on November 20, 2015, 11:49:46 AM GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :) For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage. Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool... Exactly. Mining with GPU depends on the coin algorithm, whereas some are efficiently mined with the GPU while others are better mined with CPU. An example of this is Ethereum which can be mined with a GPU due to its Dagger Hashimoto algorithm. Please correct me if I'm wrong. :D Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: AltcoinScamfinder on November 21, 2015, 06:16:14 AM if you're a Manager or Owner of the laptops, you really don't know how to do your work sorry. Laptops arent for mining. If you wanna mine buy a fucking greedseed and put in your desk you'll earn more than with the 20 laptops. what you been doing in the forum? your rank mind experience or you just post for post? Its Laptops no LLaptos, I know my English is shit but mate at least try to write proper Your English is indeed shit, and you apparently have no idea what you are commenting on. Fuck off maybe? Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: Ayers on November 21, 2015, 04:04:12 PM GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :) For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage. Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool... what pow? i only now about magi, but it was an old coin, now i believe there is a gpu for that also it was also inefficient to run gpu on monero algo i think, or not very groundbreaking if you compare it to cpu Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: tromp on November 21, 2015, 04:16:02 PM GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :) For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage. Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool... what pow? Cuckoo Cycle https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: Abiky on November 22, 2015, 12:47:33 AM GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :) For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage. Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool... what pow? Cuckoo Cycle https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo This is a great concept for Proof of Work mining algorithm. Is not there a crypto currency which implements this by the way? It would be pretty interesting to check it out. ;D Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: tromp on November 22, 2015, 03:07:55 AM GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :) For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage. Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool... what pow? Cuckoo Cycle https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo This is a great concept for Proof of Work mining algorithm. Is not there a crypto currency which implements this by the way? It would be pretty interesting to check it out. ;D No; it's not used anywhere. Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: nwfella on November 22, 2015, 07:19:13 AM Personally I would probably take a look into mining gridcoin (GRC). It's not like mining in the traditional sense in that it basically requires you to dedicate computer resources to any number of Boinc approved projects and rewards you for the work they put in.
Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: Ayers on November 22, 2015, 12:49:26 PM GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :) For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage. Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool... what pow? Cuckoo Cycle https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo is this something like scrypt-n but for sha256 to counteract asic? i seen something about memory there Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: tromp on November 22, 2015, 03:56:14 PM GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :) For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage. Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool... what pow? Cuckoo Cycle https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo is this something like scrypt-n but for sha256 to counteract asic? i seen somethign about memory there sha256 is the simplest choice of compute-bound hash function in the Hashcash Proof of Work. scrypt-n is an attempt to make the hash function require lots of memory but fails in three ways: 1) scrypt allows trading off memory for time 2) the larger n, the slower the hash computation, quickly making it unsuitable for fast verification 3) scrypt is still rather computation heavy In Cuckoo Cycle computation is minimized and you spend most time waiting for memory. You can scale memory use to the GB range while remaining instantly verifiable. Trading off memory for time is not so feasible, incurring an extra order-of-magnitude slowdown. Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: Abiky on November 23, 2015, 01:25:02 AM GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :) For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage. Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool... what pow? Cuckoo Cycle https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo is this something like scrypt-n but for sha256 to counteract asic? i seen somethign about memory there sha256 is the simplest choice of compute-bound hash function in the Hashcash Proof of Work. scrypt-n is an attempt to make the hash function require lots of memory but fails in three ways: 1) scrypt allows trading off memory for time 2) the larger n, the slower the hash computation, quickly making it unsuitable for fast verification 3) scrypt is still rather computation heavy In Cuckoo Cycle computation is minimized and you spend most time waiting for memory. You can scale memory use to the GB range while remaining instantly verifiable. Trading off memory for time is not so feasible, incurring an extra order-of-magnitude slowdown. All these ideas and features of the new Cuckoo Cycle algorithm, makes me think that we will be soon seeing CuckooCoin around. It will be better than most SHA-256 and Scrypt coins out there. This will make more memory efficient. ;D Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: tromp on November 23, 2015, 01:59:48 AM GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :) For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage. Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool... what pow? Cuckoo Cycle https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo is this something like scrypt-n but for sha256 to counteract asic? i seen somethign about memory there sha256 is the simplest choice of compute-bound hash function in the Hashcash Proof of Work. scrypt-n is an attempt to make the hash function require lots of memory but fails in three ways: 1) scrypt allows trading off memory for time 2) the larger n, the slower the hash computation, quickly making it unsuitable for fast verification 3) scrypt is still rather computation heavy In Cuckoo Cycle computation is minimized and you spend most time waiting for memory. You can scale memory use to the GB range while remaining instantly verifiable. Trading off memory for time is not so feasible, incurring an extra order-of-magnitude slowdown. All these ideas and features of the new Cuckoo Cycle algorithm, makes me think that we will be soon seeing CuckooCoin around. It will be better than most SHA-256 and Scrypt coins out there. It's not even that new. I published/announced it in early January 2014, and in May 2014, courtesy of David Andersen, the miner reached its current, presumably near-optimal form. Quote This will make more memory efficient. Not sure what you mean by that. Just having more memory by itself doesn't translate to increased cuckoo mining performance. You also need more cores (or more hyperthreading) to keep that memory busy. That's why the motto is: 1 memory bank + 1 virtual core = 1 vote Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: Abiky on November 23, 2015, 02:03:24 AM GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :) For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage. Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool... what pow? Cuckoo Cycle https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo is this something like scrypt-n but for sha256 to counteract asic? i seen somethign about memory there sha256 is the simplest choice of compute-bound hash function in the Hashcash Proof of Work. scrypt-n is an attempt to make the hash function require lots of memory but fails in three ways: 1) scrypt allows trading off memory for time 2) the larger n, the slower the hash computation, quickly making it unsuitable for fast verification 3) scrypt is still rather computation heavy In Cuckoo Cycle computation is minimized and you spend most time waiting for memory. You can scale memory use to the GB range while remaining instantly verifiable. Trading off memory for time is not so feasible, incurring an extra order-of-magnitude slowdown. All these ideas and features of the new Cuckoo Cycle algorithm, makes me think that we will be soon seeing CuckooCoin around. It will be better than most SHA-256 and Scrypt coins out there. This will make more memory efficient. ;D It's not even that new. I published/announced it in early January 2014, and in May 2014, courtesy of David Andersen, the miner reached its current, presumably near-optimal form. I thought it was new, since I have never heard of such algorithm. It is a good thing I stay updated with the latest innovations in the crypto world right here on BCT. Thanks for sharing this information. ;) Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: Ayers on November 23, 2015, 12:43:25 PM GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task). :) For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage. Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool... what pow? Cuckoo Cycle https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo is this something like scrypt-n but for sha256 to counteract asic? i seen somethign about memory there sha256 is the simplest choice of compute-bound hash function in the Hashcash Proof of Work. scrypt-n is an attempt to make the hash function require lots of memory but fails in three ways: 1) scrypt allows trading off memory for time 2) the larger n, the slower the hash computation, quickly making it unsuitable for fast verification 3) scrypt is still rather computation heavy In Cuckoo Cycle computation is minimized and you spend most time waiting for memory. You can scale memory use to the GB range while remaining instantly verifiable. Trading off memory for time is not so feasible, incurring an extra order-of-magnitude slowdown. interesting, could this be a good deterrent for asic? without the need to upgrade the algo each time? Title: Re: 20 llatops mining Post by: tromp on November 23, 2015, 02:15:55 PM In Cuckoo Cycle computation is minimized and you spend most time waiting for memory. You can scale memory use to the GB range while remaining instantly verifiable. Trading off memory for time is not so feasible, incurring an extra order-of-magnitude slowdown. interesting, could this be a good deterrent for asic? without the need to upgrade the algo each time? To the extent that DRAM is an ASIC for reading and writing bits at random (which is the bottleneck in Cuckoo Cycle) everyone already has an ASIC for this. Changing PoWs is a not a feature you want in a truly decentralized coin. Instead Cuckoo Cycle could dynamically change its size as I explain in the whitepaper. |