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Hi everyone, would want to borrow 0.12 BTC
for personal leisure spending as most of my BTC is reserved for other matters
at the moment. Will do some trading as well.

No Collateral
ADDRESS:
1CwNNNES1WcZfiM7pjAGcuRqUptxstSFah


Regards,
JM Erestain

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Even if you took a loan with your account as collateral, you wouldn't get that loan. Max you can get with your account as collateral is 0.05, maybe lower due to increase in BTC price. At any rate, "personal leisure" as a reason, nah ... 0.1% of you getting this loan.

What's wrong with leisure spending?
I see your point here though.

I don't usually borrow money cuz I never really had the
need for it, but I'd rather use borrowed money than investors money

120% or 20% interest??

#edit: asking because it said "120% interest" in thread title.

120% return

i can do this loan with the below terms:

repayment-date: at the latest 25. November 2015 - 23:59 UTC
repayment-amount: 0.144 BTC (20% interest)

if overdue: additional 10% interest  per day of total overdue amount - passing 23:59 UTC counts new day

Giving a loan without collateral could be risky for you
He can easily purchase a full member account again in around 0.04 btc if s/he wanted to
0.12 is a big amount.
Just a suggestion. Think before you lend or Get ready to lose

Emerge I'm not blaming you but what xinzark has said is 100% true. So it is good to get proper collateral before lending because his account is not so much trusted to lend without collateral for 0.12BTC

thank you for the suggestion, and if of course it was a user without any trust i would not offer my help. But i did little due diligence before offering the loan to him and don't think Emerge will risk this amount for tracking him back and getting him brandmarked in the internet..

i always live by the rule "never risk more than you can afford to lose".

so it happened before that somebody which previously used trackable payment-methods for other deals (listed in trust) defaulted a loan??? If so, then i will rethink my decision.

#edit: irrelevant

I accept these terms.

And as a reply to other comments:


I understand you, but I've invested so much time and reputation on this account,
even revealing my true name and identities here, and use this account to represent my startups as well.

I'd wish for you guys to put some trust into me.

I trust you. And i think the other users only wanted to warn me as i never gave somebody a loan. So look at it from this perspective: They don't post this to "detrust" you, the do it to prevent scams and losses of others. So it has a positive basal.

Anyway - Looking back your post-history and trust i stick to my decision. Please give me 2-3h for the transaction (@work).

Happy for your decision, won't ruin your trust mate.
Sure, no rush, it's just for pleasure spending on Steam anyway haha.

Regards,
JM Erestain

Alright. Will post tx-id when sent. Can you additionally sign the string "ca333" with 1DwocGE4UgqgvkA3n8zR5QouvWWZQx3dBr ??

Alas I can't, I can sign it with my PGP though,
I only use web wallets (Coins.PH and Coinprism.com) as I'm an entrepreneur on the go

I can show you proof of these wallets if asked for

Okay then i will send the loan to 1DwocGE4UgqgvkA3n8zR5QouvWWZQx3dBr - this proofs ownership too.

Wait no!
I was using a different wallet then! I might have lost it!

Please wait while I look

Sent you a reply on PM.

Apparently it's an MP wallet which I sold along with
MiniDice.in a long time ago

Providing your identity proof won't create trust on you. If you scam then he won't use your identity proof and visit a cop to complain I have been Scammed lol

And as far I investigated you already have 0.32593 btc in your Wallet excluding other wallets if you have which we don't know
Proof : https://blockchain.info/address/1CwNNNES1WcZfiM7pjAGcuRqUptxstSFah
So why you demanding for extra loan without revealing the reason behind loan and also lack of collateral

As I've said... I'm using web wallets.. which use other hot wallets....

that's why there is the rule in some bitcoin related sites that you shouldn't send from web wallets because the money comes from different wallet...

In such condition then that means this address : 1CwNNNES1WcZfiM7pjAGcuRqUptxstSFah
Is not yours, right ?

I also use web wallets but I never felt any problem like you. Never

I wouldn't jump to conclusions without solid proofs, but I've only encountered Xapo doing this, i.e they give an used address everytime you want to deposit and it may already be used by someone else, and Xapo doesn't allow signing messages. A web wallet that does allow signing message is blockchain.info and coinbase, with neither of them doing what OP states. So OP which wallet do you use again?
Thanks for clarifying , wonder why I didn't see that earlier.

Here is the answer to your question mex


... as for coins.ph, you really can't sign message if wallet address is from coins.ph since it's an exchange site, not sure about coinprism

If you want me to sign using my CoinPrism wallet, I can
get the Priv Key and sign it.

Okay, someone's hacked my password but I've changed it just now.

THIS IS A SCAMMER/HACKER'S ADDRESS DO NOT SEND:
19xizH52pkbahxkxnjGzMr9LzFn1xukUHY

CAUTION! don't trade until resolved
be very careful.

Sorry Emerge, this all sounds very suspicious. I am OUT and can not fund the loan. If i wasn't careful with you, i would have already lost money..


p.s. it has been the first time i came into this lending section. And out of a helping mind, i nearly lost money. This is not good. This section seems to be very unserious and not well-minded. I will not come again.

To prove that you are still in control of the account and not the hacker, it will be good if you sign a message with a address posted in an unedited post, Emerge.

Alright.. I understand...
Almost lost the money as well..

What bullshit of a day.


Here's my PGP signature:

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This is the real Emerge.
Nov 19, 2015
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EDIT:

whoops, added a space

But this message was sent by you? Right??

No that's not me!!!!

I already told you that the address was on the OP..

How can you send me such an message. Even READ my reply AND don't say anything?? ITS BEEN A DAY!!!
YOU WARNED ME first AFTER i wrote to you "[...] alright. i just got home and will send within minutes. [...]"

you know how this looks now???

#edit: changed format (bold, font-size) until officially resolved/checked by sys-mods.

Because there's nothing on my outbox.... the hacker won't make it look obvious that he is hacking me or else
I would've done something immediately.

I only noticed when you quoted my reply in your reply

as seen here:

okay i have no chances to check server-logs or other sensible data on BCT. But admin/mod can. We will hopefully find out what happened here and resolve it officially and public.  

Alright. Thank you for understanding.
I will also stake all the addresses I use on my reputation thread just so everyone will know from now on.

I'll try sticking to just a few this time, to keep it safe

Regards,
JM Erestain

LINK:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1104226.new#new