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November 18, 2015, 08:09:54 AM
Last edit: November 18, 2015, 10:50:15 AM by Emerge
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Hi everyone, would want to borrow 0.12 BTC
for personal leisure spending as most of my BTC is reserved for other matters
at the moment. Will do some trading as well.

No Collateral
ADDRESS:
1CwNNNES1WcZfiM7pjAGcuRqUptxstSFah


Regards,
JM Erestain

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November 18, 2015, 08:13:18 AM
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Even if you took a loan with your account as collateral, you wouldn't get that loan. Max you can get with your account as collateral is 0.05, maybe lower due to increase in BTC price. At any rate, "personal leisure" as a reason, nah ... 0.1% of you getting this loan.
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November 18, 2015, 09:03:08 AM
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Even if you took a loan with your account as collateral, you wouldn't get that loan. Max you can get with your account as collateral is 0.05, maybe lower due to increase in BTC price. At any rate, "personal leisure" as a reason, nah ... 0.1% of you getting this loan.

What's wrong with leisure spending?
I see your point here though.

I don't usually borrow money cuz I never really had the
need for it, but I'd rather use borrowed money than investors money
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November 18, 2015, 10:02:14 AM
Last edit: November 18, 2015, 11:03:30 AM by ca333
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120% or 20% interest??

#edit: asking because it said "120% interest" in thread title.

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November 18, 2015, 10:50:06 AM
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120% or 20% interest??

120% return
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November 18, 2015, 11:15:11 AM
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120% or 20% interest??

120% return

i can do this loan with the below terms:

repayment-date: at the latest 25. November 2015 - 23:59 UTC
repayment-amount: 0.144 BTC (20% interest)

if overdue: additional 10% interest  per day of total overdue amount - passing 23:59 UTC counts new day


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November 18, 2015, 01:02:21 PM
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120% or 20% interest??

120% return

i can do this loan with the below terms:

repayment-date: at the latest 25. November 2015 - 23:59 UTC
repayment-amount: 0.144 BTC (20% interest)

if overdue: additional 10% interest  per day of total overdue amount - passing 23:59 UTC counts new day



Giving a loan without collateral could be risky for you
He can easily purchase a full member account again in around 0.04 btc if s/he wanted to
0.12 is a big amount.
Just a suggestion. Think before you lend or Get ready to lose
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November 18, 2015, 01:12:32 PM
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120% or 20% interest??

120% return

i can do this loan with the below terms:

repayment-date: at the latest 25. November 2015 - 23:59 UTC
repayment-amount: 0.144 BTC (20% interest)

if overdue: additional 10% interest  per day of total overdue amount - passing 23:59 UTC counts new day



Giving a loan without collateral could be risky for you
He can easily purchase a full member account again in around 0.04 btc if s/he wanted to
0.12 is a big amount.
Just a suggestion. Think before you lend or Get ready to lose

Emerge I'm not blaming you but what xinzark has said is 100% true. So it is good to get proper collateral before lending because his account is not so much trusted to lend without collateral for 0.12BTC

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November 18, 2015, 01:14:02 PM
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120% or 20% interest??

120% return

i can do this loan with the below terms:

repayment-date: at the latest 25. November 2015 - 23:59 UTC
repayment-amount: 0.144 BTC (20% interest)

if overdue: additional 10% interest  per day of total overdue amount - passing 23:59 UTC counts new day



Giving a loan without collateral could be risky for you
He can easily purchase a full member account again in around 0.04 btc if s/he wanted to
0.12 is a big amount.
Just a suggestion. Think before you lend or Get ready to lose

thank you for the suggestion, and if of course it was a user without any trust i would not offer my help. But i did little due diligence before offering the loan to him and don't think Emerge will risk this amount for tracking him back and getting him brandmarked in the internet..

i always live by the rule "never risk more than you can afford to lose".

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November 18, 2015, 01:15:45 PM
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120% or 20% interest??

120% return

i can do this loan with the below terms:

repayment-date: at the latest 25. November 2015 - 23:59 UTC
repayment-amount: 0.144 BTC (20% interest)

if overdue: additional 10% interest  per day of total overdue amount - passing 23:59 UTC counts new day



Giving a loan without collateral could be risky for you
He can easily purchase a full member account again in around 0.04 btc if s/he wanted to
0.12 is a big amount.
Just a suggestion. Think before you lend or Get ready to lose

Emerge I'm not blaming you but what xinzark has said is 100% true. So it is good to get proper collateral before lending because his account is not so much trusted to lend without collateral for 0.12BTC




so it happened before that somebody which previously used trackable payment-methods for other deals (listed in trust) defaulted a loan??? If so, then i will rethink my decision.

#edit: irrelevant

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November 18, 2015, 01:15:53 PM
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120% or 20% interest??

120% return

i can do this loan with the below terms:

repayment-date: at the latest 25. November 2015 - 23:59 UTC
repayment-amount: 0.144 BTC (20% interest)

if overdue: additional 10% interest  per day of total overdue amount - passing 23:59 UTC counts new day



I accept these terms.

And as a reply to other comments:

120% or 20% interest??

120% return

i can do this loan with the below terms:

repayment-date: at the latest 25. November 2015 - 23:59 UTC
repayment-amount: 0.144 BTC (20% interest)

if overdue: additional 10% interest  per day of total overdue amount - passing 23:59 UTC counts new day



Giving a loan without collateral could be risky for you
He can easily purchase a full member account again in around 0.04 btc if s/he wanted to
0.12 is a big amount.
Just a suggestion. Think before you lend or Get ready to lose

Emerge I'm not blaming you but what xinzark has said is 100% true. So it is good to get proper collateral before lending because his account is not so much trusted to lend without collateral for 0.12BTC



I understand you, but I've invested so much time and reputation on this account,
even revealing my true name and identities here, and use this account to represent my startups as well.

I'd wish for you guys to put some trust into me.
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November 18, 2015, 01:22:37 PM
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120% or 20% interest??

120% return

i can do this loan with the below terms:

repayment-date: at the latest 25. November 2015 - 23:59 UTC
repayment-amount: 0.144 BTC (20% interest)

if overdue: additional 10% interest  per day of total overdue amount - passing 23:59 UTC counts new day



I accept these terms.

And as a reply to other comments:

120% or 20% interest??

120% return

i can do this loan with the below terms:

repayment-date: at the latest 25. November 2015 - 23:59 UTC
repayment-amount: 0.144 BTC (20% interest)

if overdue: additional 10% interest  per day of total overdue amount - passing 23:59 UTC counts new day



Giving a loan without collateral could be risky for you
He can easily purchase a full member account again in around 0.04 btc if s/he wanted to
0.12 is a big amount.
Just a suggestion. Think before you lend or Get ready to lose

Emerge I'm not blaming you but what xinzark has said is 100% true. So it is good to get proper collateral before lending because his account is not so much trusted to lend without collateral for 0.12BTC



I understand you, but I've invested so much time and reputation on this account,
even revealing my true name and identities here, and use this account to represent my startups as well.

I'd wish for you guys to put some trust into me.

I trust you. And i think the other users only wanted to warn me as i never gave somebody a loan. So look at it from this perspective: They don't post this to "detrust" you, the do it to prevent scams and losses of others. So it has a positive basal.

Anyway - Looking back your post-history and trust i stick to my decision. Please give me 2-3h for the transaction (@work).

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November 18, 2015, 01:24:55 PM
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I trust you. And i think the other poster only wanted to warn me as i never gave somebody a loan. So look at it from this perspective: They don't post this to "detrust" you, the do it to prevent scams and losses of others. So it has a positive basal.

Anyway - Looking back your post-history and trust i stick to my decision. Please give me 2-3h for the transaction (@work).

Happy for your decision, won't ruin your trust mate.
Sure, no rush, it's just for pleasure spending on Steam anyway haha.

Regards,
JM Erestain
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November 18, 2015, 01:32:50 PM
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I trust you. And i think the other poster only wanted to warn me as i never gave somebody a loan. So look at it from this perspective: They don't post this to "detrust" you, the do it to prevent scams and losses of others. So it has a positive basal.

Anyway - Looking back your post-history and trust i stick to my decision. Please give me 2-3h for the transaction (@work).

Happy for your decision, won't ruin your trust mate.
Sure, no rush, it's just for pleasure spending on Steam anyway haha.

Regards,
JM Erestain

Alright. Will post tx-id when sent. Can you additionally sign the string "ca333" with 1DwocGE4UgqgvkA3n8zR5QouvWWZQx3dBr ??

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November 18, 2015, 01:57:30 PM
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I trust you. And i think the other poster only wanted to warn me as i never gave somebody a loan. So look at it from this perspective: They don't post this to "detrust" you, the do it to prevent scams and losses of others. So it has a positive basal.

Anyway - Looking back your post-history and trust i stick to my decision. Please give me 2-3h for the transaction (@work).

Happy for your decision, won't ruin your trust mate.
Sure, no rush, it's just for pleasure spending on Steam anyway haha.

Regards,
JM Erestain

Alright. Will post tx-id when sent. Can you additionally sign the string "ca333" with 1DwocGE4UgqgvkA3n8zR5QouvWWZQx3dBr ??

Alas I can't, I can sign it with my PGP though,
I only use web wallets (Coins.PH and Coinprism.com) as I'm an entrepreneur on the go

I can show you proof of these wallets if asked for
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November 18, 2015, 02:49:22 PM
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I trust you. And i think the other poster only wanted to warn me as i never gave somebody a loan. So look at it from this perspective: They don't post this to "detrust" you, the do it to prevent scams and losses of others. So it has a positive basal.

Anyway - Looking back your post-history and trust i stick to my decision. Please give me 2-3h for the transaction (@work).

Happy for your decision, won't ruin your trust mate.
Sure, no rush, it's just for pleasure spending on Steam anyway haha.

Regards,
JM Erestain

Alright. Will post tx-id when sent. Can you additionally sign the string "ca333" with 1DwocGE4UgqgvkA3n8zR5QouvWWZQx3dBr ??

Alas I can't, I can sign it with my PGP though,
I only use web wallets (Coins.PH and Coinprism.com) as I'm an entrepreneur on the go

I can show you proof of these wallets if asked for

Okay then i will send the loan to 1DwocGE4UgqgvkA3n8zR5QouvWWZQx3dBr - this proofs ownership too.

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November 18, 2015, 02:57:33 PM
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I trust you. And i think the other poster only wanted to warn me as i never gave somebody a loan. So look at it from this perspective: They don't post this to "detrust" you, the do it to prevent scams and losses of others. So it has a positive basal.

Anyway - Looking back your post-history and trust i stick to my decision. Please give me 2-3h for the transaction (@work).

Happy for your decision, won't ruin your trust mate.
Sure, no rush, it's just for pleasure spending on Steam anyway haha.

Regards,
JM Erestain

Alright. Will post tx-id when sent. Can you additionally sign the string "ca333" with 1DwocGE4UgqgvkA3n8zR5QouvWWZQx3dBr ??

Alas I can't, I can sign it with my PGP though,
I only use web wallets (Coins.PH and Coinprism.com) as I'm an entrepreneur on the go

I can show you proof of these wallets if asked for

Okay then i will send the loan to 1DwocGE4UgqgvkA3n8zR5QouvWWZQx3dBr - this proofs ownership too.

Wait no!
I was using a different wallet then! I might have lost it!

Please wait while I look
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November 18, 2015, 03:08:08 PM
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Sent you a reply on PM.

Apparently it's an MP wallet which I sold along with
MiniDice.in a long time ago
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November 18, 2015, 03:12:50 PM
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I understand you, but I've invested so much time and reputation on this account,
even revealing my true name and identities here, and use this account to represent my startups as well.

I'd wish for you guys to put some trust into me.

Providing your identity proof won't create trust on you. If you scam then he won't use your identity proof and visit a cop to complain I have been Scammed lol

And as far I investigated you already have 0.32593 btc in your Wallet excluding other wallets if you have which we don't know
Proof : https://blockchain.info/address/1CwNNNES1WcZfiM7pjAGcuRqUptxstSFah
So why you demanding for extra loan without revealing the reason behind loan and also lack of collateral
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November 18, 2015, 03:42:01 PM
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I understand you, but I've invested so much time and reputation on this account,
even revealing my true name and identities here, and use this account to represent my startups as well.

I'd wish for you guys to put some trust into me.

Providing your identity proof won't create trust on you. If you scam then he won't use your identity proof and visit a cop to complain I have been Scammed lol

And as far I investigated you already have 0.32593 btc in your Wallet excluding other wallets if you have which we don't know
Proof : https://blockchain.info/address/1CwNNNES1WcZfiM7pjAGcuRqUptxstSFah
So why you demanding for extra loan without revealing the reason behind loan and also lack of collateral

As I've said... I'm using web wallets.. which use other hot wallets....

that's why there is the rule in some bitcoin related sites that you shouldn't send from web wallets because the money comes from different wallet...
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