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Dear All,

I would like to present PassiveDice (http://www.passivedice.xyz).

Passive Dice is an automated dice playing system with a selection of different bots to give you the best chance of a return of investment. You will gain passive income without even playing. Just let the bots do the work for you!

We have a selection of different bots. One is set up to use the martingale technique if you like to use that.

Bots

Emerald Bot - Emerald Bot is a recently created Bot. Emerald Bot is best used for low investments. It is a stable low risk Bot.
Topaz Bot - Topaz Bot is our first Bot. This is a medium risk Bot that leans on being high risk.
Opal Bot - Opal Bot is our second Bot. This is a medium risk Bot (martingale technique).
Amethyst Bot - Amethyst Bot is our latest Bot. High risk but can get you some serious returns. Only use this if you can afford to lose.

All out bots are developed in Python. We automate a range of dice sites.

We are always in the process of improving and creating new bots, We would welcome any feedback from you.

How Does It Work?

Its a simple three step process.

1) Sign Up
2) Purchase Your Bot
3) Bot starts, Monitor on your dashboard.

How Long can I have the bot for?

Each bot instance is created and then destroyed after 30 days. The profit in your account will be yours to withdraw.

This is to enable best value and return on investment.

Can I download the bot to use away from your website?

No, We don't do this.

This is to protect the bots life and allow as many people to use it before its caught. If we gave away the source code, It would be found out instantly.

What happens when the bot is caught? I just paid for 30 days?

Nothing to worry about. We will know when it stops working.

We will contact you using email and refund you, Including any profits you had made.

How much can I make?

How long is a piece of string?

It depends on how much you put into it, the more Bitcoin the bigger the profits. This is gambling and depends on luck.

Low risk bots are slower to make a profit but over the 30 days can gather a bigger profit than the high risk.

It really depends on luck.

Sounds good, Where do I Sign Up?

Sign Up - http://passivedice.xyz/register.php

Once you have logged in you will then be able to purchase a Bot.

Happy Botting, Enjoy the profits!

Well.. First things first sir I think you probably fucked yourself by using the free .xyz TLD at the end of this site..

Secondly why is this topic self moderated if its an announcement thread? Sort of defensive and strange behavior is it not for a legit dice site?

Site looks cool.. Would look alot cooler if you posted it with your main and scraped that shitty .xyz name though.. you branded yourself a scam basically out of the gate. Not saying you are... But it looks pretty bad from where I'm sitting.

1) If you do a whois on the domain, You will see it was registered with namecheap. If you go to namecheap you will realise that this is a register and not a free host and you will see the cost of the domain.

2) Topic is self moderated to stop trolling, like this post... that you will usually get in the gambling section.

3) From our team, There is not one who has a so called "main" account on here. We browse and post sparingly.

I don't see with these above facts how our service can be branded a scam. We have created bots, we are selling access to them.

Please get your facts straight before posting and trying to knock the reputation of a new service.

Why there are so many informations needed in the registration form on your site? I understand some are optional but its still not good specially for those who just want to try and look at your site first

We added them for account security.

Do you think it would be a good idea to remove the First name / Last name fields?

just looking and the minimum amount to deposit is 0.1 is this right? to try out I think this is perhaps a bit high no? maybe 0.01 as a minmum would be better.

IMHO you should remove those fields, if the user wants extra security then they can add/enable it on their account settings.



If thats true that they have minimum deposit then i think i wont try this site coz i dont wanna risk atleast .1 when trying

I am the same if it was lower I would give it a go but .1 is a bit high.

We take your comments on board.

We were unsure as to what would be a suitable amount for minimum deposit. We would he happy to hear peoples suggestions.

I will ask our web developer to remove those fields and add the extra security as optional in the account.

Thanks all for your input.

Having 0.1BTC as minimum amount to purchase a bot is just too high and not to mention that you are a new service.
Why we should use your service instead of using other bots that is publicly available on the internet and there is no guarantee that you will still be here after 30 days.

Maybe you should add a "Trial Bot" to your plan where the bot will only run for a day or two and the earnings can be withdrawn without the need to wait for 30 days with this plan. Only one trial bot per user though.
If user are satisfied with this plan, they might continue to use your service.


Just my 2 cents.

Thank you for the ideas.

We have spoken about the minimum fee and plan to put this into smaller dividends (0.001 BTC)

We have been thinking of adding a demo bot when you use a small amount of out funds. There would be a chance we can lose but it would also allow people to see our service and our bots working.

as for why we are better than public bots... Bot sites put measures in place to stop bots from running or at least running so well. We monitor for this and will change our algorithm dependant. Because its a private bot these sites are unable to view the source code and it makes it a better, stable and more reliable bot.

PassiveDice. Interesting. OP - who is the admin? How will you establish trust with users? A user must trust a website and/or the admin before making a deposit. Right now I don't feel comfortable enough at first glance of the website.

Hi dwyer17,

there is no single admin.

We are a team of 6 and all have our own tasks.

As always, Trust can only be established with time. I fully understand if you don't feel comfortable and in such a case you are not forced to invest in a bot.

Our website is made for productivity and easy use. The majority of the code is actually behind the scenes which monitors the active bot background processes.

 

I want to try this site if the minimum deposit changed to 0.01 because 0.1 its a bit high

And i think this thread should be move to investor-based games section on in service section

Hi,

Our web developer just contacted me and informed me that he has added new minimum deposits as demand.

We have also removed the First Name, Last Name, Memorable Question and Memorable Answer registration fields.

as for the thread location, We posted in the gambling section as this is nothing more than a gambling tool. Its not an investor based game. there is nothing to play really.

Regards,

Cool, nice to see that the community feedback is listened to, I might give this a whirl now that the minimum has dropped :)
Will update how it goes.

have anyone tried it? any feedback

will wait for ur review ill try if this site is good

Well, not too much I can say at the moment.  Went for the high risk amethyst bot with 0.01, and the emerald low risk bot.  The deposit process was quick and my bots are now active which I can see in the Dashboard. 

The dashboard is quite limited and it states that it is only updated once per day so I will need to wait until tomorrow to see how the bot has performed for the day, it would be nice to be able to see data updated more than just the once a day.  I'll see what the profit or loss is come tomorrow.

Hi,

We actually have the update script running twice at the moment just to ensure everything is working. If you would like to see more regular updates I will add this to our "to do" list.

In the coming week we are going to introduce logging and statistics on the dashboard.

Logging - This will log any major profits or losses. We are looking at logging each game but this could be an issue with database optimization and log space especially as we have over 70 Bots running at the moment.

Statistics - More in depth statistics on profits losses and a personal view on what bot you have the most luck with.

Any other ideas for the frontend would be taken seriously, We have launched this service without public input and we know changes will need to be made to satisfy what people want/require.

to add: We have been thinking about offering certain trial accounts so people can check out the dashboard and see the kind of profits the bots make. Obviously this money will not be able to be withdrawn at the end of the period. How would people feel about this?

I have bought so many dice bot but without any success, do you have any trial offer on this?

Update

We have updated the website to include statistics for your Bots, Profit/Loss. You can see this on your dashboard.

We have also changed the update time. You will see updates on your bot every hour.



To give you a trial offer would mean to provide you with funds to gamble with.. Ultimately leading to a loss on our side.

We are looking into the possibility of having a trial account run with our funds that people can log into and view (but obviously not withdraw).

Can you guarantee me a profit?

Unfortunatly the nature of gambling cant always be profitable. However the low risk and medium risk bots very rarely lose over a period of 3 - 4 days.
Invariably this is not a profit guaranteed scheme. the website does not look too professional either.

Hi,

The website is a front end to run our bots.... We don't claim to be a professional company or such... we are just a group of enthusiasts with a service. We didn't think we needed to get a graphic designer to design our website as it would change nothing. We are developers not designers.

And as said.... Gambling is based on luck. This is not a scheme of any such and we don't claim we can guarantee you a profit.

This is just a front end to running some Dice Bots.

Alright but trial offer with your fund will definitely cost you so much, why not create something like 3 days access where user can put their personal fund?

That is a nice idea.

We have been looking at similar. I will speak to the rest of the team and see what we can come up with.

That would be nice, kindly update the thread when you have it up and running.

Would this give me a good chance of making a lot of bitcoin?

If I use just 1BTC how long could it take to get up to like 5??

I wouldn't suggest any form of gambling if i'm honest

Go to the beginner section if you require help with making bitcoins.

I wouldn't suggest any form of gambling if i'm honest are you saying you dont recommend what you are selling?

I wouldn't suggest it to a newbie with 1btc to gamble to try and make 5btc. No.

The bots gives you a better chance of profit, but still gambling is gambling.

its not a guaranteed profit bot.

That is true and it is well said, gambling is caveat emptor.

Well done with the updates I really like the fact that you can see the amount of profit and loss for each bot, the hourly update is much better and so far it is looking good profit wise:)

Hi tiggytomb,

Really happy that you like the updates.

We are looking for any feedback from our customers that may improve the service for you.

We have a few ideas that we are hoping to release in the coming week. granular logging being one of them, an affiliate with reward has been suggested by another customer. If you have any ideas we would be happy to implement them.

We are looking for any feedback from our customers that may improve the service for you. check here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1267674.0 i think criticism is part of things that could improve service.

Nothing that can be done about people like that.

He has even said in that thread that he will delete any response we make to defend ourselves.

There is criticism, but what can be done about it? We are trying to make this as open and as customer friendly as possible.

Never seen something like this, waiting for feedback.

Updates

Bots

-- Topaz Bot has been updated as it was being blocked by some sites, This shouldn't have affected running as it would have bounced to another.
-- Amethyst Bot has been made a little less aggressive due to complaints.
+ New Bot being developed should be available in a few weeks.

Website

-- Database Optimized
-- Extra precautions have been made as we received a SQL Injection and DDoS Attack yesterday evening. Nothing to worry about, no-ones funds were compromised due to multi-signature storage.
+ Logging of each game nearly completed.

no-ones funds were compromised due to multi-signature storage this means there are some registered members with this program already, i think they should be able to write some detailed review about this website and the 30 days hold back issue.

I have a couple of bots on the go, so far no problems obviously cannot say yay or nae until 30 days but as of now seems okay making a profit according to my dashboard. 

I've seen many bots but this one is really new. I hope you're protected after 5 loss in a row otherwise you must claim satoshi from the gambling's faucet and start a new round.

Cheers
Salmen

Hello, PassiveDice. :)

The quoted message is taken from your website.
Can you explain to me how does disclosing the dice sites you use will jeopardize the bot that you create?

This appear very interesting has anybody tried this with success?

PassiveDice were launched two days ago and I think no one profit from this, yet.
If you read the previous page, you can see a post by tiggytomb. He stated he had bought few bots and his bots started to make money for him.

yeah I tested this and so far it shows profit, cannot withdraw until 30 days so can only wait and see.

Dice Sites want profit, That's why they have their own automated bot, some of them at least and usually don't have an API for you to do this.

Our bots get banned / blocked fairly regular, about 3 times a week. This is when the Dice sites catch on. They do not want people profiting. Although our bots do not guarantee you a profit they will give you a better chance as there is no House Edge like on the dice sites.

Our bots do a series of tasks before playing. Such as choosing a site which usually yields the most profit, we believe these sites have a smaller house edge and then connecting through a VPN to play on the dice site with a different IP. We have so far had many blocked proxy addresses which we are having to replenish a few times a week.


We are looking at changing this in the near future. We are looking at a quick withdrawal charge. like 1.4% if you want to withdraw early.

This is still under discussion but will hopefully be ready in the next week.

I never seen a single post about dice site block a user because they use bot to play. Give me an example of dice site that block you because you use your so-called bot to play.
Did you run your so-called bot on well known dice site?

It is completely different running one or a couple of external bots on a dice site than running over 80 like we are right now. Algorithms and patterns can be worked out.

Issues should be tackle one by one, i belief that 30 days holdings on profits is not good enough.

That would be a good idea to allow the ability to withdraw ahead of the 30 days, over the last few days I have made some nice profit according to the dashboard so being able to withdraw as you please would be a good idea, the 1.4% doesn't seem too unreasonable either.

I can see that if you did leave the bots for 30 days the potential is there for a nice reward, I think the push for the ability to early withdraw at this point has a lot to do with it being a new service and so on...

Did you use your own funds or the customer funds to gamble with your so-called bot?
And if I purchase a bot, the bot will gamble at 80 dice sites at the same time or it will choose dice site with the lowest house edge?

I believe by the end of the 30 days period, you will either profit from your investment (not much though) or lose it all.

The funds are all separated and customers bots gamble with their own money.

We collect our own statistics on what is the favoured dice site at the time depending on how much profit we have made. This is collected to show who has the lowest house edge.

UPDATE

withdrawals will be available at any time coming this Friday, All withdrawals will be subject to 0.4% fee.

Roll on Friday, thanks for the update.

Do you cover user loss if they did not make profit from your so-called "service"?
What if your so-called bot lose it all?

Do not forget to post the TXID after you received it. :)
May I know your initial investment in PassiveDice?

PS: Website is offline.

That's the plan, will post if and when I can withdraw.  I invested 0.06 spread amongst the 4 bots and currently showing 0.15 in account so a pretty healthy profit, of course if it stays like that come Friday.

No we do not cover loss, this is gambling and not some profit guarantee scheme.

If the bot loses it all, it would be gradual, none of the bots make HUGE bets as time is on our side the bots try a slow gradual approach. But if the bot does lose it all, You lose.

That is nice profit!

PS: I hope the profits stays though. ::)

So today is Friday and so far no changes made to the site so not looking that great right now.

PassiveDice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667557) last active was on 3rd December.
Give them a few more hours, I hope they won't scam though. If so, I'm sorry for your loss. :(

We will see.  It is always a gamble in these threads it's a shame if they are scammers as it was a pretty cool idea renting out bots.

This looks like the same bastard from PrimeDime  :-\

Found this on google. Bot has been leaked. http://pastebin.com/XvgVAC7D

It does sound pretty cool. Has anyone checked out the bot leak code yet? (Or was that a different bot.)

What's the deal with the IP address... What are shady things that "Provably Fair" sites do to minimize their losses? Increase the house edge? Fix the bets?

Can some1 download the .zip file and see if it has malicious files? Worried this is just a bait set up by PassiveDice.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hu78t179x0ragtz/pdbotpackage.zip (https://www.dropbox.com/s/hu78t179x0ragtz/pdbotpackage.zip)

So, any news about your payment? I mean, have you been paid?
Did you mean you don't want to do anything to get your coins back if they really scam you? Very generous. :P

Is this work well? Anyone use this bot yet?
Interesting program. But what dice site its compatible with

I doubt this so-called bot exist or work and there is only one user tried this so-called bot. He is tiggybomb.
This is indeed an interesting program, but eventually this is just a scam. He boasted that his so-called bot runs on 80 different dice sites, iirc.

You should read previous page. :)

There isn't any bot: [SCAM] PassiveDice (= PrimeGlitch scammer) - stay away from this cheap fraud! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1267674.0)

Same concept, same scammer and I guess it has already scammed. (as I estimated at its launch)

They are indeed the same person. PrimeGlitch still owe me some money though.
Yes, they already ran away with tiggybomb money.

That escalated quickly  ::)

Seems as we thought, a scam. I would not trust any download of the bot as I highly doubt there were ever any bots in the first place.  I took a risk very early on and never really jump in but it was with some winnings I had so I was prepared to possibly lose it and thought I would try my luck, so I got scammed lost 0.06 but we live and learn.  I would have done better playing the dice myself!

it seems that the SCAMMER PRIME is the same Admin!!!!
Be aware.

We are already aware of it. Thanks to supermoney and his thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1267674.0). :)

This user (bjalkidottir) is OP trying to fuck you all with malware: pdbotpackage.zip - virustotal.com result (https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/7988a026e3430e31214a07c8027cfef50ec33f12546eb8cb82dabae3a9d7e64f/analysis/1449498438/)
There isn't any "leaked code" inside that archive, just a virus.

PassiveDice / PrimeGlitch you're a cheap scammer with no dignity.

I am glad that I did not download the so-called "PassiveDice leak code" because I tried my best but I could not even find the so-called "PassiveDice leak code" on Google.

Really we need clean a little cryptocoin scene, too much fraudsters

It is really hard for the mods and admins to monitor scams. As they don't have the guideline to determine a thread created is a scam or is not.

bots have always made the work easier .. I am looking to see more and more bots