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In latest flare-up of tension between EU and Islamabad, Pakistan rejects 31 people it says were illegally returned

Thirty-one migrants made a round trip from Greece to Pakistan on Thursday after the government in Islamabad said the EU had illegally deported them.

Although 19 out of the 50 deportees who came in on a charter plane were taken into custody in Pakistan, the remainder stayed on board for almost two hours before returning to Greece after the government said they did not have the correct paperwork.

It was the latest salvo in a row between the EU and Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, the Pakistani interior minister angry about the treatment of his compatriots by European states struggling with a migrant crisis.

“Pakistani laws have been violated, which absolutely cannot be allowed,” Khan said in a statement.

The issue has been a running source of tension with the EU. In early November Khan suspended an agreement on readmitting illegal detainees, saying two EU states were sending Pakistanis home on “baseless terrorism charges”.

“Those who give lectures on fundamental rights to us should also respect fundamental rights of Pakistanis,” he said at the time.

Last week Dimitris Avramopoulos, a Greek politician and the EU commissioner responsible for migration policy, visited Pakistan to try to soothe concerns.

But on Thursday Pakistan said the EU was still not honouring pledges to only return those whose identity had been confirmed, saying the men flown back to Greece were “unverified deportees”.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/03/pakistan-sends-deported-migrants-back-to-greece-eu

Greece has been asking for help to deal with the mass dumping of muslims, and Kurds, by Turkey, for the past 30 years, to change Greece's/Europe's demographics, and "conquer" nations by demanding rerpresentation in remote areas, Turkey has dumped boatloads of Muslims in Greece to achieve what it could not achieve through war, in the past 1000 years..This, and the tremendous influx of Indians, Pakistanis, and other Asians, in Greece, looking for work, and taking advantage of the natural epic Hospitality of the Greek people for the past 30 years, has even further strained Greece's finances, and has made downtown Athens, resemble Bangladesh, with more Asians, and East European Muslims, out at night, than Greeks. It has increased the crime rate, by 1000% in a country where most people never locked there doors...When reaching out for help to the EU, for the past 30-40 years, the EU would turn a blind eye, and would even threaten to accuse Greece of human rights violations, if Greece did not keep the migrants, and the dumped muslims on Greece's mainland, and formerly beautiful islands..

I think Algeria did that too some years ago. France had deported Algerian delinquents but the North African country didn't want them anymore, so it just sent them back to France. Of course, the people deported didn't pay for their flights, nor the meals they got along the way.

Pakistan is just trying to offload people that it can not deal with.

It is trying to limit its losses as it has a huge refugee population already and literally can not cope. It is in a bad position and is just trying to do the best it can.

Agreed 100%. Pakistan is having a population of some 200 million people, and it is growing by some 6 million per year. The government discourages family planning, and want the couples to have as many children as they could. Also, the Pakistani government encourages the migration of its citizens to Western nations, as remittances constitute a large part of the GDP.

I think that not just Pakistan but all European countries, EU and other organizations just playing games with this people and trying to avoid problem and transfer all refugees to other countries instead of trying to solve this problem in their countries, like Syria and Iraq.
Their refugees politics is completely wrong.
They shouldn't wait that they arrive first in Europe but they should prevent civil war in Syria, and this was possible 3-4 years ago but nobody took serious care and responsibility for crisis in Syria.
Now, this problem EU, tried to avoid, came to them :)

Hello Everyone,
I am from Pakistan; I wanted to comment on this pot. Yes Pakistan deport the migrants on the same Greece Plane, because they have no prove that they are Pakistani's. Pakistan accepts 19 people out of 30.
This is very necessary because you can see in Western Countries (specially in France and Germany) the Syrians migrates in very huge numbers. So, it is an idea of independent sources that in migrants, every 5th person is suspect (or may be linked with culprits).
So that is very necessary to accept migrants after full scrutiny, Pakistan already in the field of war, here in Pakistan Millry do an operation against militants or Taliban. You all know Taliban killed over 50 Thousand Pakistanis. So, Pakistan is not in position to take more risks
I pray to God that the problem of Syria should be resolved soon so that the rest of world live in peace. I hope so.

Yeah, you can just imagine how many in that mass of refugees entering Europe have false passports. Forgers and sellers of passports and identification are raking it in. Must be a nightmare to sort that mess out.

Hmmm... so Pakistan is refusing to accept the immigrants, since they are having doubts regarding their nationality? Well... I have a solution for this. Just ask the immigrants to give their personal details (name, date of birth, place of permanent residence.etc). This data can be verified with the Pakistani authorities, and they can be sent back to their home countries. If they refuse to provide these details, just dump them in Somalia.

Yes Pakistan is a pretty poor country with quite a lot of instability.

It has a huge population and just does not want to deal with returning and deported migrants. Also Pakistan has been for years taking millions of refugees from neighboring countries especially Afghanistan. So do you really blame them?

The migrant issue needs to be dealt with in Europe as it will not be able to cope. Id we tackle the root cause it will stop future of people.

Well.. I appreciate Pakistan for taking care of millions of Afghan immigrants during the civil war there. But at the same time, Pakistan is a stable country (at least with the exception of NWFP and FATA), devoid of any civil war or political unrest. What is the point in sending hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to the EU, when the Europeans are struggling with inflows from Syria and Iraq?   

Well, if I were in charge somewhere in the Middle East or Pakistan and heard of an exodus of refugees heading for Europe, my first and rather obvious thought would be to get rid of some criminals and mental patients and get them into that mass. With pristine passports of course and under security personnel care most of the way.

Ever since Cuba used that tactic in the 1980s to get rid of all the criminals and the anti-social elements, a large number of nations have done the same. As long as the Western nations continue to be ruled by mentally retarded people such as Angela Merkel and John Fredrik Reinfeldt, who are afraid of the political correctness, this will continue unabated.

Well, it isn´t really rocket science. But nowadays it looks like millions of people haven´t had a single original thought their whole life. And then they vote for what they identify with, obviously.

Just another example of a potential flaw in the vetting process for refugees, missing or nonexistent paperwork. The EU is pretty certain these folks are Pakistani, certain enough to put them on a charter plane home. However, home (that would be Pakistan) doesn't want them because they can't be certain they're Pakistani (or at least that's the claim). Pretty bad when your own country won't claim you. Sort of like what Castro did with the Mariel boat thing. Empty the jails and asylums as a means of putting out the trash.

All of them had Pakistani passports. What more evidence do you need to prove that they are Pakistani?  :D

The EU office in Islamabad said all 50 people on the flight organised by Frontex, the agency in charge of Europe’s borders, had been given passports to travel by the Pakistani embassies in Greece, Bulgaria and Austria.

It said Pakistan’s demand that the migrants should also have their national identity card numbers was impossible for EU officials to organise and that it was not part of the agreement struck with Pakistan.

In this case, it is a deliberate attempt by Pakistan to dump their unwanted population in other countries. The passports were issued by the Pakistani embassies, so the Pakis can't claim that they are forged. Pakistan should be asked to take back its nationals, or economic and trade sanctions should be placed on that country.

They´re not going to put sanctions on Pakistan, well unless they want to supply NATO occupation forces in Afghanistan by air. Remember, the Russians closed the northern route for obvious reasons.

Pakistan is trying to hide behind procedures (which have not been agreed upon).
I wonder what would have happened if Greece had refused to take back these people.
Some kind of media outrage in Pakistan would have helped force the hand of the Pakistani government.

This reminds me of something...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbelievable_Adventures_of_Italians_in_Russia


 ;D

Good old movie. :D

Perhaps Russia could help. As I heard there are plenty of relative well paid jobs in Norilsk, in the Chukotka region and in the Sakha Republic in addition they are desperately need some workforce.

Russia does not need any of these low-skilled economic immigrants, who have no intention to do any work. Most of the jobs in regions such as Norilsk and Chukotka are mining jobs, which requires a lot of stamina and energy. Also, these immigrants prefer to go to the United Kingdom or Germany, where they could live off the generous welfare payment system.

I doubt that they´re the types to tough it out in Norilsk. Man, I almost get the shivers just by looking at that picture...

-50.8ºF (-46 ºC) on Lenin's Avenue in Norilsk, Russia

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--nEM79a3m--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ariuqgwxjkzukiaiquqx.jpg

When Stalin was ruling the USSR, some of the most notorious Soviet Gulag camps were located in the vicinity of Norilsk (including Turukhansk, Vereshchagino, Verkhne-Imbatskoye, and Podkamennaya Tunguska). It will be a good idea to re-open some of these camps and send all these economic immigrants there to do the hard labor.

No, we don't need these idiots in our Norilsk. Bt it will be a good idea to send Obama, Cameron, Merkel, McCain, Hollande & Co there to do the hard labor.

Well, I guess it takes some serious toughness to live in the tundra. Not least in character. Imagine the starkness of the environment, lack of visual references.

This is rime ice. Someone probably left a window open on the bus overnight. The tundra wind is very moist and when the temperature inside is a little higher than outside the rime ice will accumulate very fast

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--xZcsN_lI--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/782443313713563794.jpg

Well... at least they could be used for some of the engineering mega-projects, such as the Northern River Reversal, Bering Strait Bridge, Power of Siberia pipeline.etc. By the time these projects are finished, the unwashed hordes will be dead as a result of cold and starvation. It is a win-win situation for both Russia and the European Union.

Well, a lot of them used to claim that they want to go to Sweden and Norvegia to find a job. They also used to claim that they wanna work hard. I thought the weather is similar, the landscape isn't that much different during the winter and they can also "work hard" as they wished, so Norilsk or some similar place over there could be a fine alternative destination :).

They want to go to Norway and Sweden because the welfare system is the most advanced there. Of course
they don´t state that for a reason, at least most of them. I don´t doubt that some of them are good workers willing to work hard, at least have good intentions, but then jobs may not be waiting for thousands of people that suddenly appear in country.

Norway and Sweden are already swamped with hundreds of thousands of low-skilled workers, especially those from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Somalia. There are only a limited number of jobs, and these people will make it hard for the already existing migrant population to find suitable jobs. Also, anti-immigrant parties are gaining a lot of support in these countries.

That is bloody staggering. How the heck do they figure on funding welfare for all these people? The cost must be immense. I guess that any talk of possible adverse consequences is carefully avoided until it has become an overwhelming crisis. That seems to be the common model in the western world from warmongering nutcases in Washington to welfare paradise preachers in Stockholm and most in between.

Speaking about Sweden... They're going to implement another crazy idea, rehabilitation program for those people who have returned from ISIS. Yeah, it's correct. Being former ISIS fighter is not a crime anymore, it's a privilege. Former ISIS fighter will receive free psychotherapy services, as well as living space and monetary aid from the government.

The scandinavian countries have one of the highest tax regimes in the world.
No scope for increased funding from there. :)

Yeah well, Germany, Sweden & EU need cosy relations with filthy rich fundamentalists in Saudi Arabia and other dictatorships in the area that fund terrorism. After all they  purchase much of the overpriced aviation and heavy industrial commodities, not to mention weapons. I guess those bloated European welfare states would soon go stone broke if that well dried up. There´s heavy competitive pressure from China and others of course.

This is pure insanity. ISIS fighters should be sent to the gas chambers, and not to the psychotherapy centers. I just hope that the Sweden Democrats will seize power soon, and put an end to this lunacy. Right now, they are polling around 20% to 25% of the national vote. If things go on like this, they might be able to cross the 40% mark.

I think it´s a great idea to kill as much of them as possible if they don´t surrender, but if they´re captured I don´t subscribe to death penalties. My way with them (and other violent criminals that need to be put away for life) would be punishment by extreme boredom. As in, for example, only one TV channel which is on all the time.

Month 1: The Kardashians, the most idiotic episode and that one only 24/7

Month 2: The walking dead, the most boring episode 24/7

Month 3: The most boring and idiotic western politician, same stuff every hour on the hour 24/7

And so on. I think you get the picture. This is only the TV part of this punishment by extreme boredom. There´s plenty of other options of superlative ennui relating to other kinds of killing time.

Don't forget about anal rape, three times per day without lubricant. After few months of such rehabilitation they will be ready for integration into the modern feminist society.

Nono, no torture in my hell. Just endless boredom of the highest order. They´d be bored out of their skulls and that wouldn´t improve for the rest of their pathetic existence. I think that as word got out about this hellish punishment, interest in the terrorist profession and violent criminality would probably decrease.

That's not a torture, just a fast-track integration program.

Yeah, imagine listening to Welcome to the Jungle, Eye of the Tiger, We Are the Champions, Livin' On A Prayer, Walk Like An Egyptian and Girls Just Want To Have Fun - and nothing else for three months straight 24/7. And that´s in a cell that looks like a bathroom because it is a bathroom with a screen and loudspeakers and a picture of Chairman Mao. Remember, these are 20 year olds that look forward to decades of endless ENNUI. Always a VERY dull moment.

Inside the Swedish prisons, 99% of the time, anal rapes are committed against native inmates by the Muslim prisoners. Even the prisons in Sweden are like 80% to 90% Muslim. There is free internet connection, XBOX, and all sort of luxuries. For an immigrant from Somalia or Afghanistan, a Swedish prison would look like a 5-star hotel.

Yeah, they just love inmates. Gives them the opportunity to produce even more therapists, and behaviorists and all sorts of -ists. And they discover more problems everywhere and invent some new syndromes every day. Which calls for even more -ists. I call it unemployment reservoirs, hiding unemployment.