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This campaign will be managed by me(Mexxer-2) and co-managed by Lutpin in my absence


Rates:


Rules:

Spots Available:

Legendary/Staff Member- 0
Hero Member- 0


i) All posts must be constructive and meaningful. Spam, one word posts, bumps, +1 and image-only posts will not be counted. Posts in Local board,Off-topic, Games and rounds, Politics and Society, Investors based games and Altcoin Section will not be counted as those are not the boards this campaign is specified towards.
ii) Only one account per person, if I find you using multiple accounts , your main+ alt accounts will be banned from the campaign for 2 months.
iii) If , while reviewing your posts, I find most of them to be violating rule one, I reserve the right to cancel your participation with no payment.
iv)  Posts must be at least 80 characters long.
v) As this campaign is service focused, at least 5 posts should be in Service discussion or Service announcements(combined)
vi) Signature must be worn until your posts are counted, any attempt of "cheating" will result in you being banned from this and future campaign with no payment.
vii) During the campaign period if you receive a valid negative trust from DT 3 or above or if you get banned, it will result in your disqualification from the campaign.
viii) Participants will be paid if you reach a minimum of 65 posts during the campaign period.
ix) Rushed 10-20 posts in a single day near the end of the campaign will most likely not be counted.
x) Separate avatars and personal message advertising are allowed as long as they don't advertise competitor site, for ex: Bit-x.
xi) Posts in this thread will not count towards your payment.
xii) All participants of this campaign must make a minimum of 3 posts per week. If a user is unable to make 3 posts in any given 7 day time period, they will be removed from the campaign and the spot will go to the next in queue for enrollment. This however can be avoided if you give me a good reason via PM beforehand.

How to participate:

Post in the following format

3. Follow this thread or have a look at enrolled members below to know if you are qualified and are enrolled.
4. Be sure to follow the rules above.

I will pay out at the end of the period as long as the 65 posts minimum , 1 month after you have joined the campaign, have been met.You can also ask for Biweekly payment(half of the monthly payment) instead of waiting 2 more weeks for the payment, although you have to make 45 posts during the 2 weeks to qualify for that.

Enrollment period starts from Today( 5/12/15) 8:00 AM forum time till Monday(10/12/15) 8:00 AM forum time , although if, some spots are vacant until the end of enrollment period, the remaining funds will go to a separate Pay per post Jr. Member and Member signature campaign.

PM me with any questions or concerns.

Confirmation of funds from master-p:

Enrolled members


Check your enrollment/participant status here: https://docs.zoho.com/file/001of2ba69be48cd84166a97d17c774a4c4df

Avatar
http://snag.gy/mv362.jpg
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsnag.gy%2Fmv362.jpg&t=559&c=oQCQ3aIsLoGn-A

Signatures:


Hero Member/Legendary



Banned members(Can only reapply after 2 months): extrabyte

Reserved, for any updates.

Reserved #2

Information for participants, this thread will be locked until the escrow will confirm that he has got the amount.

Funds have been received on the escrow address, but master-p is currently unavailable
He will confirm the funds tomorrow , for now, the PGP signed message from the last campaign, which has been "recharged"
At any rate, this(unlocking this thread) is not necessary as all the participants have been already hand-picked, and have started posting with the signature.

I would like to apply for E-coin's Signature Campaign.

UID: 76847

Bitcoin address: 1NoTajKJT6gRLEPkHwcb1EB4cNyDrmuhii

Starting Post Count (including this post): 600

Forum Rank at time of entry: Hero Member

UID: 138940
Bitcoin address: 1PNmymEXA8mGZfdsWAWmicJPTXEf5KAzTG
Starting Post Count(including this post): 1534 (At time of posting 1547, -13 for posts made after the 5th)
Forum Rank at time of entry: Hero Member

The enrollment was just a formality(and a reference) as both of you were selected beforehand, welcome to the campaign.

Oh and considering the fact that there are a few million sats extra(not in budget of either fixed campaign, neither the Pay-per post campaign), this month's bonus for the Best quality poster will be 0.05.

Won't you give us a chance to be a part of your campaign? :'(

Only hero and legendary/staff members?

AFAIK, you will conduct a separate pay-per post campaign for us. Right?

Yup, it will have a bigger(double) budget than this campaign, to be exact, 2 BTC. Looking for more quantity promotion this month

Applying

Participants for this campaign have been hand-picked and all available slots got filled (reserved right now, but will be filled by the according users later).
There are no vagant spots at this point.

UID: 133846
Bitcoin address: 1Q2CupiU5DfWupRGBQ66QYRqvxoNxGZCcn
Starting Post Count(including this post): 7579
Forum Rank at time of entry: Legendary

UID:178911
Posts:   1598
Activity:   631
Position:   Hero Member
BTC:1MeUK9ofgyoeQNzqHiegH52FqcaKhBMnmV

Accepted, please read the rules. And I see you have been posting quite less these days, please read the "3 posts per week", "65 posts per month" and  "post consistently" rules.
Ah sorry mate, no spots are left.
P.S: I'll enroll you if either Swordsoffreedom doesn't enroll by 10th
Enrolled, please read the rules to avoid any confusion, some may have been changed

UID: 106054
Bitcoin address: 1JFY8ZYtUnp2kHcJjqWsG12CrSjtCMZ19m
Starting Post Count(including this post): 1420
Forum Rank at time of entry: Legendary

Enrolled, please read the rules to avoid any confusion.
Edit: The sheet will reflect the changes shortly.

Can you please inform me the exact date when it'll start commencing (via pm)?

I already ordered an E-coin card and so I would love to sponsor this site as a customer. :)

BTW, will I be able to request for a monthly payout like the ongoing campaign?

Thanks.

1) It will start today, most likely(if I don't procastrinate  :P )
2) Yeah... bit of a hassle but I can do it.

Holidays keep ya busy sig updated
Signing up from reserve

UID: 145841
Bitcoin address: 1K1WUEbAhsR3D9GAeW5G3ALSVMkYLr68ve
Starting Post Count(including this post): 3367
Forum Rank at time of entry: Hero

Awesome, hope you enjoyed your holidays, time for some "work", heh.
All slots are now full.

Just posting this here as confirmation. The escrow address used for this campaign is the same as the previous.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

I have been asked to help escrow the funds for this campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1276519.0

The funds will be held in the following address: 1GpvppKgbejUpN7gaZAZgLpMLX9DLt7sHA

As long as the above address is funded, the signature campaign is safe to participate in. Campaign owner will replenish escrow address as needed.

Payments will be distributed by me based on the payment schedule determined by the campaign manager/owner.

Escrow by master-P: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932294

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.49
Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto

wsBcBAABCgAGBQJWZ97VAAoJEIukx+duFL7CkwkIAMwPg+u+xm/5bITktS2n27TG
bW7dM++nqhIQTcCZzDunNxkoo5glKCJFeuzRt1Th0witkMF00SZLUcf40NkgXTn9
MuJK7nKFWmLEHKhj6+yJuu3TTk/t9YJkY/rWocLzMXi/PLD/0QdI7B7JZLW5E1Ou
GKxpazKZ6oMlhK5pRgwKkMjwiA0ByDRlUr8LGc032s+gvGjKSBRqx4J+3Nk0DPv0
u7vuGPbhmMMkTGMeIaEH/6Cblm89I0Nqh8YFE6n9Tf63Q4Oned+21PndTL8RCkDh
UtuxOIhDisaXPWXyAjIzpYy2Cc+2G4U4W2aUZELcvhFUFU/iIsQKUfY4vW0VOhY=
=TYue
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

I tried to verify master-P's signature on Keybase but it notified the following error!

http://i66.tinypic.com/262b194.png

Please explain what the reason of the error could be?

Lol the escrow thread points to Oremine campaign, prolly thats why. Try this link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932294.0

Not even sure how I managed to do that. Granted I am running on 3 hours of sleep for the past 48 hours.

Reposted signed message below:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

I have been asked to help escrow the funds for this campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1276519.0

The funds will be held in the following address: 1GpvppKgbejUpN7gaZAZgLpMLX9DLt7sHA

As long as the above address is funded, the signature campaign is safe to participate in. Campaign owner will replenish escrow address as needed.

Payments will be distributed by me based on the payment schedule determined by the campaign manager/owner.

Escrow by master-P: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932294

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.49
Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto

wsBcBAABCgAGBQJWZ97VAAoJEIukx+duFL7CkwkIAMwPg+u+xm/5bITktS2n27TG
bW7dM++nqhIQTcCZzDunNxkoo5glKCJFeuzRt1Th0witkMF00SZLUcf40NkgXTn9
MuJK7nKFWmLEHKhj6+yJuu3TTk/t9YJkY/rWocLzMXi/PLD/0QdI7B7JZLW5E1Ou
GKxpazKZ6oMlhK5pRgwKkMjwiA0ByDRlUr8LGc032s+gvGjKSBRqx4J+3Nk0DPv0
u7vuGPbhmMMkTGMeIaEH/6Cblm89I0Nqh8YFE6n9Tf63Q4Oned+21PndTL8RCkDh
UtuxOIhDisaXPWXyAjIzpYy2Cc+2G4U4W2aUZELcvhFUFU/iIsQKUfY4vW0VOhY=
=TYue
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Done, I will try and keep my posts up, just been very busy with life right now haha.

2 Hero spots are open, feel free to join.

UID:178911
Bitcoin address:1MeUK9ofgyoeQNzqHiegH52FqcaKhBMnmV
Starting Post Count(including this post):1616
Forum Rank at time of entry:Hero

Enrolled, sheet will reflect changes shortly. Please have another look at the rules, some have been changed

sure. Thanks. Added the signature.

UID: 105473
Bitcoin address: 1E1j2uMTLfXMDM6YZrWSnXPneRsVbht8k3
Starting Post Count(including this post): 932
Forum Rank at time of entry: HERO

tell me if I'm eligable or not

Enrolled.

UID: 121562
Bitcoin address: 1NA6fPswvxJR2f9xXoqMQ3U3J1fMguKHKQ
Starting Post Count(including this post): 1251
Forum Rank at time of entry: Legendary


Special thanks to mexxer-2 for reminding me of my tardiness ... ;D

Enrolled. The usual drills:

Well, I would do it, but somehow mexxer forgot to share the sheet with me ::)
Welp, guess I'm done here. Good Luck to all users in the meantime.

Awh right, woops. Will do it next thing I come back up on my notebook.
P.S: Back to the chat you go

Hello can you give me some tips on how to become a hero so I can qualify on this campaign I like the site to be listed on our Online Business Directory in exchange for a free e-card,we have a crypto-currency category there would also like to post thei listing on all our facebook groups and pages hope you canhelp me with this since you have contact to the management

There is no easy way to become hero member right away. You have stayed here more than one and half year and at least post 14 times during two weeks' time. Except you can buy a hero account.
Actually e-coin are doing Christmas campaign https://www.e-coin.io/promo, you could get one free e-coin virtual card.

UID: 119527
Bitcoin address: 17ytBPKF9koB3VrY2HLotsiChmuDsxT7Yo
Starting Post Count(including this post): 635
Forum Rank at time of entry: Hero


Any spots available?

Yep, please read the rules and use the signature. Sheet will be updated a bit later

OK, rules read, and signature added. Thank you.

Name:   Operatr
Posts:   1072
Activity:   616
Position:   Hero Member
Bitcoin address:   1CwWrUcW2bdCRagP3BME1wPe4jDPPBQFv7

I apologize for the bad news , but the escrow for the campaign , i.e master-p seems to have "exit-scammed"^[1]. As he was the only person who had access to the campaign funds, I'm sorry to say that the campaign will be discontinuing with no payments for the last month.

Apologies for any inconveniences again
In case the new owner of the "master-p" account returns and refunds(highly unlikely), everyone will be paid out.

Follow-up [1]: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.0

Putting being scammed by the escrow aside, shouldn't the person behind the campaign step foreward and pay the participants himself?
The users in this campaign did nothing wrong. I think it would put ecoin in a bad light if you wouldn't honor the work they did,
no matter whether or not paster-p returns the escrowed funds.
I can see why you would want to end the campaign, but dont go out with outstanding payments.
At least partly pay the participants for the days that already have passed.
Anything else would be below you!

Repeating myself
Lastly, I myself was charging only 0.04 per month(for both campaigns), not a significant amount , but thought of my loss?

Well damn, and just when I joined up too.  :-\

I'll give him a bit, but is there a link to discussion on him exit scamming?

Here

Any chance that e-coin would give some payment to the current participants?  :(
I know that we did take our chances with the escrow.

I have contacted him regarding this , I wouldn't have my hopes high though, considering the campaign was already unsustainable for them.
Apologies again, for any inconveniences . I for one lost my faith in bitcointalk escrows, only person I'm sticking with as an escrow(if possible) is shorena

Bravo, E-Coin.
Thats one way to ruin your business.

https://i.imgur.com/LjARDfQ.jpg

^ E-coin can't be blamed for all this. They had faith on master-p and so they escrowed their funds. Probably, they can arrange for some compensation to all the members who participated here, including mesmer for managing it so well.

Well, I am not going to demand them for my procurable payment as I consider this situation nothing more than a sudden disaster. I would rather suggest them to either manage their campaign themselves or pre-fund directly to the new participants (from senior members and above) if they want to continue their campaign from now on.

Good Luck.

Agree to disagree. Depending on how they continue to sort out this, they can infact be blamed IMO. Hint: the start doesn't look that good.
They should value any outstanding payments/work that has been done for them. The participants are in no way to blame for this, they didn't select the escrow, they did their part of the contract, delivered their work, this shouldn't be done with on their expenses.

This was a letdown for me, but I was only a week in so not a horrible loss I guess. I agree shorena would be a trustworthy escrow for such things.

As Mitchell said in the other thread, you can't blame staff or anyone, this is just how things work sometimes. :/


EDIT: will remove signature and leave feedback later when I can post from non-mobile.

Being an uninvited guest here I would like to put forth my opinions in response to the situation :

I think Campaign Manager is as much responsible of the funds as the campaign owners. Isn't it upto the campaign manager to decide the escrow?If yes,then he should somehow make up to it since he is the first person of contact for the participants from their recruitment to kicking them out.If No,he should again make an attempt to convince the campaign owner that its none of the participants fault but we made a wrong choice hence we must pay the participants for their time.In the end,I know its a long blame game and finally only participants will suffer.I'm not accusing mexxer of anything but just generally relating to the situation, as it might occur in the near future as well.I have idea here (which will probably sort out responsible/serious managers from not-so-serious-one's).Campaign manager should be held responsible from now on for any such kind of situations and this should be made a rule ,if a manager is given a campaign ,he is responsible for any kind of payment loss and that even includes owner running away without paying.Trust me not everybody will like to be a campaign manager then.

I think you should contact EURO_STACKA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16045). As far as I know, he's the one who appointed mesmer to initiate this campaign.

I already left hope in this and so I immediately started a campaign where funds are paid upfront.

Tl;dr: I'll think twice joining the campaigns where they don't have a backup to their escrowed funds!

Nothing from them yet?  :(
They should at least let us know whether we can change our signatures...

Euro_Stacka is quite slow in responding. As for the signatures, you can switch to another one once .Me along with him will decide whether to give a part payment or a full amount, i.e you later come back and finish the terms(days remaining) and then take the full payment, you will be informed, or in the worst case , no payment(highly doubt it might happen)

I just removed mine yesterday since I thought they were suspending the campaign. I'm more than happy to put it back if they are going to continue to advertise via hero and legendary members.

E-Coins obligations are fullfilled at the point each and every participant got his payment (asuming he is eligble to it according to the rules).
Their work is done, they delivered the product to you (advertising).(I don't know what product you did not recieve, maybe the coins you placed in escrow that overreach the pending payout)
Sending BTC to the escrow was only the first step of paying for said work. It was supposed to add pay-security to the participants.
Now that the coins are not going to the participants from said escrow, it would be E-Coins obligation to pay them directly.
They delivered their part of the treaty, it's only fair from you to ensure you deliver yours.

Let us check other campaigns caught in this incident:

I understand things like this happen and no it isn't Mexxer's fault. I joined later in the campaign and only got a week in before this fiasco occured so I don't expect to see any return for my time. Likewise E-coin should not expect that I should consider using their services going forward.  :-\

Well that sucks when the escrow itself is the scam alas another fiasco.
I can't say it couldn't be helped since the forum is suspicious of new campaigns and vouches for escrow that in itself can be a risk, reputation wise it is a bit of a hard hit so even a token gesture would be nice but I guess e-coin is short on the coins.
Oh well tks anyways.

Guess they are,
that's why they are abled throw $190 into their promo raffle (https://www.e-coin.io/promo),
but aint got the coins to pay out participants.

Well as your personal sig says
There is nothing permanent except change.
(Sorry that just seemed perfect as a reply :P no chump change lol)

E-coin seem in favor of a proportionate payment , i.e why post count and the counting for days , the signature remained in place is being done. I notice some people still seem to have the signature, all the participants are being PMed, (maybe a bit unfair to the people who had the signature until 2-3 days after the announcement was made, and only then they removed the signatures) their "Days Signature remained in place" will be counted until today. For all others, it will be counted until the day the announcement was made( Dec 28 )
The proportionate payment will be counted as follows: Posts made*Rate(Per post)*Days signature remained in place/30

There might be a few mistakes in my "formula" for calculating the payments, hence it may change in the future or if E-coin are in favor of another "method" of calculating that seems fair to them.

Edit: Maximum paid posts are 65 and another addition to the formula is above's product*posts made in "Service ANN/Service disc"/5. Maximum amount of posts counted for posts in Service ANN/Disc is 5 and to be fair, if anyone has less than 2 posts in such sections the value will be , by default 2.

Thanks for working to sort this out.
While it won't impact me, the second addition to the formula (*posts made in "Service ANN/Service disc"/5) might be deemed unfair.  After all, people might have multiple days to make those posts.
You may offer them an opportunity to make those missing posts. I can't think of another way to fix this.   :-[

I am perfectly okay with any payment, but from an analytical point of view, I would like to improve the formula.  ;D
Pay per post = Fixed Rate / 65

Payment = Minimum (Pay per post * Valid posts, Fixed Rate * Days signature remained in place / 30)
If somebody has made close to 65 posts, both your formula and mine will give the same result.
That would serve e-coins purpose.

Valid point, I will propose a 1 Service ANN/Disc post added for every week left, I believe its fair.
Appreciate your opinion but as you said, its the same result both ways, hence it would be simpler with my formula.

Hmm.... Call me a perfectionist, but it is really not that complicated.
If somebody has been here for 50% of the time (say 15 days) and made 50% of the posts required (around 32), I would say it is fair that he receives 50% payment.
Your formula would give him only 25%.

At the same time, I don't think my formula is unfair to ecoin as well.

I see what you're trying to say, but my point is , E-coin is paying for exposure(quality in this context). If a user doesn't make(made) enough posts, I believe he deserves a lower payment and as you said, payment for posts close to 65 posts(which is the min post requirement for getting the payment, if the campaign had continued without loss of funds) are better for users, than someone making 20-30 posts by now. I also am against users that make last minute/day/week posts, as they will more or less spam to boost their post count and most of the users had only 10 or so days to complete the campaign.

I think I was in for exactly one week until the announcement. I announced the removal of my signature in this thread, I can go back and find the post in a bit.

I removed my signature on the 31st December, though I don't particularly mind what date is put into the formula. I'd be just happy to get paid at this point. :P

Honestly, I don't remember when I changed my signature. So, I'll leave it on mesmer for his final calculation. :)

Calculations done, as stated in the doc sheet. If you find a problem with your payment amount, please PM me.
Even if E-coin refuses to give an additional payment(highly unlikely) , the refund provided by master-p is nearly enough to pay the amounts.

Noted, and thank you for your honesty and diligence, which seems to be in short supply today in these forums.

I do hope all that were affected by the master-P brouhaha eventually get fully compensated. I am still unsure what to think about the "hack" story but am following the developments in the associated threads.