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Bitcoin isn't the only recently developed technology that is about disrupt a major industry and change the world.

This time it's about the energy industry.

"Steorn's Orbo power cell products are now available for sale:

The Orbo power cell pulls energy from the environment, so it's a small solid state power station that never has to be recharged or plugged in. Two products now available for pre-order are the OPhone and the OCube tablet and phone charger. By Summer, they'll have an e-cigarette and computer controller that never have to be plugged in. ..."

http://pesn.com/2015/12/03/9602697_Steorns-Orbo-power-cell_products-available-for-sale/

Video:
https://www.facebook.com/thebatteryisdead/videos/vb.217496297671/10153385384347672/?type=2&theater

Don't be fooled by it. It's obviously a hoax.
There is no such thing as 'free energy'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn

This stuff looks quite a bit overpriced for me, and around such a miracle thingy we should see a lot of discussions and a lot of marketing. According to my experience if such a "ground braking" thing is so overpriced but was released in a "ninja launch" style that used to mean the inventors want to cash out quickly until they can = some sort of scam.

Weren't you the guy who made the "AMA about conspiracies" thread? No offense buddy, but you really need to be careful of confirmation bias in your "research", and you need to check your sources a little more thoroughly. While this device is a (very slim) possibility, perhaps you should be a little more skeptical.

I mean there are HUGE alarm bells here, eg. the site doesn't explain how it works, it just says "pulls energy from the wheelwork of nature". Uhhhh, OK.

I found another quote where he says: "I think what might be happening is that we are splitting time." Hmmm.

I'm calling this an obvious scam for now, there's literally no evidence that this works, not to mention the CEO obviously knows nothing about physics and all of his public demos have failed. Apparently he blamed one of the failures on "hot stage lights".

facebook selling? come on really?

http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/210543_700b_v1.jpg

Now that is totally stupid.

Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.

I don't see an issue with so-called free energy devices. This could just be an oversized broadband crystal radio pulling power from the sun, radio stations, power lines and any other source of em radiation.

The comments so far accusing this of being a scam are probably correct however. Do you think the powers that be will let technology that stops the continuous flow of fiat from your pocket to theirs? In bitcoinland scams are the #1 technique the establishment is using to fight BTC.

The current state-of-the-art free energy technology is solar power and it's a good start to get that hand out of your pocket.

Of course it could be a rectenna, but they said nothing about how this stuff working. The "wheelwork of nature" is a but thin for explanation, especially after two failed demonstrations. So the whole thing is quite suspicious.

okay if they are releasing this product means they should have a patent or something.. and also a published paper about this. if not then its fake ya.

Probably fake yes BUT, you get the "classified" stamp if you try and patent "disruptive" technology.

Last I checked you still need energy to create energy since energy isn´t created out of nothing - a perpetual problem for makers of perpetual machines from time immemorial. So, this free energy term that is still being bandied about is total nonsense.

Ya but still it should be available some where. not asking for the technical details..
im a researcher my self in applied sciences.

1. Not only is energy not created out of nothing it can't be created (or destroyed) period.

2. "the perpetual motion machine" is a straw man; a closed system is impossible.

The solar cell, the windmill, the waterwheel, etc.. all these are "free energy" devices. If somebody creates a device that taps a not so obvious flow of energy you're just being ignorant screaming perpetual motion machine.

First thing I´d check is whether this "pulls energy from the environment" concept works in a dark room, ie. without the influence of light.  ;D

Well, since clearly you don´t understand the term perpetual machine so you probably think that windmills, solar cells, hydroelectric stations etc. build and maintain themselves free of charge.

What kind of energy does this device use to "draw energy out of the environment"?

N***er please...

The point here is about the continuous flow of fiat from your pocket to the 1% guys. There's no continuous flow with solar.

It could. Just google the keyword "rectenna design" and you will find plenty of papers and actual designs about how to extract "free energy" from your neighbours wifi networks :).

Sure it´s about flow of money; as in from gullible idiots, that believe in perpetual machines, to scamsters that rely on this ages old business model.

This is like saying Bitcoin is a ponzi because scammers. Do you understand why perpetual motion machines are impossible? It's a strawman argument; closed systems are impossible.

I guess you need to charge a free capacitor to make that free energy usable. Anyway, how much is your neighbor´s wifi supposed to yield? Can a day´s worth charge your phone for longer than five seconds?

Not much of course, these are mostly "proof of concept" designs for future wireless energy transmission/distribution solutions. BTW if you living next to a big radio mast or a radar station you can extract considerable amount of "waste energy" from the "thin air". Considerable means that you can run your whole lighting and some small appliances from this free energy source :). Once I've seen a demonstration with 7 100W bulbs powered by a bunch of coils at about 1km distance from a 2MW radio mast.
(But living in such places might not the most healthy thing.)

But charging phones and laptop batteries costs next to nothing. I doubt that it costs me more than 50 cents A YEAR to charge my phone and of course it´s even less because more often than not it´s done where I spend time out of my home.

Now; this device, which is the topic, can supposedly charge 2-3 phones for free per day and it costs 1200 euros plus shipping. That´s a ROI of what, 800 years. Maybe only 400 years, let´s be excessively positive about this nonsense.

Assuming the technology is real, the cell can in fact "take energy from nature" and convert it to electricty, it would take days or weeks to absorb enough energy to charge a phone. A phone takes 2 amps of 5 volts to charge, 2 amps is a lot of current to generate. I watched the video, and I couldn't help noticing the voltage generated is in the range of radio noise picked up by our bodies. It also took 3 minutes to charge up that small capacitor, so current would be very small.

Yeah, the ROI could be 20,000 years for all I know. But according to themselves it seems to be under 1,000 years which probably is attractive to some people.

Pay 1200 euros, get a FREE cup of coffee every third year for the rest of your life, I wonder how many idiots would fall for that...

Yes, you are absolutely right on the ROI. That's why I said earlier this stuff is grossly overpriced. BTW you can't buy it right now but you can read a bunch of awesome claims, you can see photos, you can pre-order it for a fortune... Isn't it a familiar feeling (BFL, ActiveMining, etc.)?

Sounds too good to be true. Energy in our age has huge value, and no business would allow it to be 'free'. It will always be monopolized and controlled, cause after all it's about the money.
This probably is a hoax, is what I'm trying to say.

Just because the energy source of this device is not obvious does not mean it is necessarily a scam.

It might be that the device taps some previously unknown source or a source that has been thought to be unusable like dark energy or the quantum vacuum.

Science is always progressing.

This reminds me of that Turkish guy that supposedly made a self running magnetic motor. He announced he'll be selling them for €15k...
http://pesn.com/2014/11/27/9602575_Yildiz-establishes-joint-stock-company_to-start-production/

this is, I assure you, not an example of science progressing.

Scams are always progressing...

The name of this device points to a scam, "O" linking to the fake globe earth scam (the big lie) and "Cube" linking to the Satanic Saturn cube. A "wink wink" to those in the know.

If this isn't a sex gadget, this thread probably sucks.