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Title: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Smartphone Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: KhalDrago on December 12, 2015, 04:18:49 PM
Now lets get into mainstream territory and see how alts are actually doing when it comes to that. So what better place than checking the app stores to get an idea, because thats where the public is active. I ranked them by amount of installs and iOS availability.

1. Dogecoin (DOGE)
Android: Yes (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.langerhans.wallet) | Launched: Q4 2013 | Updated: Dec 9, 2015 | Installs: 100.000-500.000 | Rating: 4.2 | Amount of rates: 3.118 times | iOS: Yes (https://itunes.apple.com/app/doughwallet/id951731776) | Launched: Q1 2015 | Updated: Oct 23, 2015 | http://dogecoin.com/

2. GetGems (GEMZ)
Android: Yes (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.getgemsmessenger.app) | Launched: Q1 2015 | Updated: Dec 9, 2015 | Installs: 10.000-50.000 | Rating: 4.6 | Amount of rates: 1.147 times | iOS: Yes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/telegram-bitcoin-getgems-messenger/id942306232?mt=8) | Launched: Q1 2015 | Updated: Nov 7, 2015 | http://getgems.org/

3. Litecoin (LTC)
Android: Yes (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet_ltc) | Launched: Q4 2013 | Updated: Dec 23, 2014 | Installs: 10.000-50.000 | Rating: 4.1 | Amount of rates: 964 times | iOS: No | https://litecoin.com/

4. Dash (DASH)
Android: Yes (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hashengineering.darkcoin.wallet) | Launched: Q2 2014 | Updated: Dec 12, 2015 | Installs: 5.000-10.000 | Rating: 4.3 | Amount of rates: 122 times | iOS: No | https://www.dash.org/

5. Counterparty (XCP)
Android: Yes (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=inc.lireneosoft.counterparty) | Launched: Q2 2013 | Updated: Dec 7, 2015 | Installs: 500-1.000 | Rating: 4.2 | Amount of rates: 19 times | iOS: Yes (https://itunes.apple.com/app/kauntao-cai-bu/id977972108) | Launched: Q2 2015 | Updated: Dec 9, 2015 | http://counterparty.io/

6. Peercoin (PPC)
Android: Yes (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.matthewmitchell.peercoin_android_wallet) | Launched: Q3 2014 | Updated: Oct 11, 2015 | Installs: 1.000-5.000 | Rating: 4.2 | Amount of rates: 44 times | iOS: No | https://www.peercoin.net/

7. Namecoin (NMC)
Android: Yes (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hashengineering.namecoin.wallet) | Launched: 2012/2013 | Updated: Jan 8, 2015 | Installs: 500-1.000 | Rating: 3.5 | Amount of rates: 24 times | iOS: No | https://namecoin.info/

8. Monero (XMR)
Android: Yes (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ionicframework.monerowallet116498) | Launched: Q2 2015 | Updated: Jul 5, 2015 | Installs: 100-500 | Rating: 4.0 | Amount of rates: 8 times | iOS: No | https://getmonero.org/home

9. Gulden (NLG)
Android: Yes (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gulden.androidwallet.nlg) | Launched: Q3 2015 | Updated: Nov 4, 2015 | Installs: 50-100 | Rating: 5.0 | Amount of rates: 5 times | iOS: No | https://gulden.com/nl/

10. NXT (NXT)
Android: Yes (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.diphoorn.nxtwallet) | Launched: Q2 2015 | Updated: Dec 8, 2015 | Installs: 50-100 | Rating: not rated yet | iOS: No | http://nxt.org/

So these are pretty much the top 10.

And the results are pretty sad, seems only Dogecoin and GetGems are doing well and are clearly more aimed towards mainstream participation. The latter has been out this year and already beating Litecoin in adoption. Litecoins Android wallet hasnt been updated for a year and no sign of an iOS version.

Which clearly shows Litecoin is much more oriented towards the tech savy and traders, same goes for Dash, Peercoin, Namecoin, Monero, NXT, their apps score pretty bad regarding installs.

So from the 678 cryptos on coinmarketcap only 0.3 % are doing decent in reaching mainstream. I think its because its much harder to reach mainstream then reaching tech savy/traders and many cryptos just put out the announcement and get it listed on the exchange, thats it, but there is no actual business model, funds, ambition, interesting features to reach mainstream.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: DigiCube on December 13, 2015, 03:29:29 AM
DigiCube has a terrific, fully functional Android wallet. Complete with coin control, input viewer, debug window, and staking



https://i.imgur.com/xYqaAks.png (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mystphysx.wallet.DigiCube_Qt)




The StakeStick is also run on Android and brings the internet, streaming video, full wallets, and staking to your HDTV: http://www.freestaking.com/stakestick


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: KhalDrago on December 13, 2015, 02:12:26 PM
Thanks, will update OP.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: benthach on December 13, 2015, 06:00:41 PM
sound like a collaborated shill accounts looking to pump a no name shit coin.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: DigiCube on December 13, 2015, 06:31:13 PM
sound like a collaborated shill accounts looking to pump a no name shit coin.

Your attitude is more negative than your trust rating....


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: KhalDrago on December 13, 2015, 07:48:42 PM
sound like a collaborated shill accounts looking to pump a no name shit coin.

No it isn't, im open to any coin and will list them. What's your pick? or does your coin(s) not have an app?


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: MTBTT on December 13, 2015, 07:50:08 PM
I personally use the blockchain + the coinbase apps. Both are great.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: KhalDrago on December 13, 2015, 07:52:10 PM
I personally use the blockchain + the coinbase apps. Both are great.

No Bitcoin apps, only alts comparison.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: bram_vnl on December 13, 2015, 10:18:44 PM
https://developer.gulden.com/images/news/guldenforioscomingsoon.png (https://vimeo.com/gulden/gulden-for-ios)
https://developer.gulden.com/images/news/guldenforioswatchthevideo.png (https://vimeo.com/gulden/gulden-for-ios)
https://developer.gulden.com/images/news/iosandroidversion2016.png

This app is coming soon for android and iOS

Gulden wallet andriod https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gulden.androidwallet.nlg
Gulden wallet iOS https://github.com/Gulden/Gulden-for-iOS

http://s18.postimg.org/fbmvuyjsp/image.png

Yes i now the wallet is not on the iOS app store we come back, apple have delete the app


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: reRaise on December 13, 2015, 11:52:31 PM
doge android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.langerhans.wallet ios https://itunes.apple.com/app/doughwallet/id951731776 http://dogecoin.com/

litecoin android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet_ltc https://litecoin.com/

getgems android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.getgemsmessenger.app ios https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/telegram-bitcoin-getgems-messenger/id942306232?mt=8 http://getgems.org/

dash android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hashengineering.darkcoin.wallet https://www.dash.org/

peercoin android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.matthewmitchell.peercoin_android_wallet https://www.peercoin.net/

monero android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ionicframework.monerowallet116498 https://getmonero.org/home

namecoin android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hashengineering.namecoin.wallet https://namecoin.info/




Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: KhalDrago on December 14, 2015, 12:42:18 AM
Thanks updated list, we start to get a clear picture which cryptos are more successful in mainstream area. If there are others, post in comments.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: KhalDrago on December 14, 2015, 08:57:07 PM
So these are pretty much the top 10.

And the results are pretty sad, seems only Dogecoin and GetGems are doing well and are clearly more aimed towards mainstream participation. The latter has been out this year and already beating Litecoin in adoption. Litecoins Android wallet hasnt been updated for a year.

Which clearly shows Litecoin is much more oriented towards the tech savy and traders, same goes for Dash, Peercoin, Namecoin, Monero, NXT, their apps score pretty bad regarding installs.

So from the 678 cryptos on coinmarketcap only 0.3 % are doing decent in reaching mainstream. I think its because its much harder to reach mainstream then reaching tech savy/traders and many cryptos just put out the announcement and get it listed on the exchange, thats it, but there is no actual business model, funds, ambition, interesting features to reach mainstream.



Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Results
Post by: Rizky Aditya on December 15, 2015, 10:25:39 AM
What do you guys prefer for cryptocurrencies? Android or ios. I personally like Android more.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Results
Post by: KhalDrago on December 15, 2015, 03:06:55 PM
What do you guys prefer for cryptocurrencies? Android or ios. I personally like Android more.

iOS all the way, cus apps are fully vetted before being made available which has prevented widespread malware infection to ios users. The app store provides users with confidence that the apps they download have been tested and validated by Apple. That's why majority of cryptos are ignoring ios while its one of the biggest operating systems with many users to grab.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: KhalDrago on December 15, 2015, 03:54:28 PM
^ Ranking is mainly focussed on network effect.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: pille on December 15, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
Dash iOS wallet is available, but not on iTunes (if this is the criteria?).

https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/iPhone+-+DashWallet+v.0.8.8

http://i63.tinypic.com/j7awdd.jpg


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: pille on December 15, 2015, 04:24:28 PM
Why is it not on the market yet? Can't pass Apples extreme rules?

I think so, quote from the Install Guide (https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Download+-+Install+-+Guide) :

"As iTunes did not accept the Dash Wallet on their Store (whatever reasons) ..."


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: bram_vnl on December 15, 2015, 06:06:45 PM
Why is it not on the market yet? Can't pass Apples extreme rules?

I think so, quote from the Install Guide (https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Download+-+Install+-+Guide) :

"As iTunes did not accept the Dash Wallet on their Store (whatever reasons) ..."

Gulden wallet iOS same problem


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: KhalDrago on December 15, 2015, 08:34:25 PM
Dash iOS wallet is available, but not on iTunes (if this is the criteria?).

https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/iPhone+-+DashWallet+v.0.8.8

http://i63.tinypic.com/j7awdd.jpg

Can't put yes cus its not in the app store and unavailable for the public, im linking the app to the app store which is trustable to download for users. You should check with them whats the issue is.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: BitcoiNaked on December 16, 2015, 03:43:49 PM
Building a platform for crypto-nerds is going to get us nowhere. Building a platform that will attract a wider audience is what will privail at the end.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: KhalDrago on December 16, 2015, 10:08:52 PM
Building a platform for crypto-nerds is going to get us nowhere. Building a platform that will attract a wider audience is what will privail at the end.

Thats why is made this topic, its not something coin supporters here like to see cus network effect is their weakest point and you saw a ridiculously few of them focusses on that. Majority is build indeed for crypto nerds and not for the public and imo without network effect it wont ever be successful.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: BitcoiNaked on December 17, 2015, 03:29:54 PM
Building a platform for crypto-nerds is going to get us nowhere. Building a platform that will attract a wider audience is what will privail at the end.

Thats why is made this topic, its not something coin supporters here like to see cus network effect is their weakest point and you saw a ridiculously few of them focusses on that. Majority is build indeed for crypto nerds and not for the public and imo without network effect it wont ever be successful.

I feel more cryptos should start to make their project in a way that is actually interesting for the public and not just for a couple of altcoin crypto users, the alt user base is incredibily small and big pump and dump usually come from a couple individual which brings the hopium for its followers while it only has like 100 active users max, even less.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: KhalDrago on December 17, 2015, 06:00:37 PM
Building a platform for crypto-nerds is going to get us nowhere. Building a platform that will attract a wider audience is what will privail at the end.

Thats why is made this topic, its not something coin supporters here like to see cus network effect is their weakest point and you saw a ridiculously few of them focusses on that. Majority is build indeed for crypto nerds and not for the public and imo without network effect it wont ever be successful.

I feel more cryptos should start to make their project in a way that is actually interesting for the public and not just for a couple of altcoin crypto users, the alt user base is incredibily small and big pump and dump usually come from a couple individual which brings the hopium for its followers while it only has like 100 active users max, even less.

As you have seen only 0.3% is doing decent in reaching mainstream, for a crypto to reach mainstream devs have to really work for it as having funds, connections and the right model.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: BitcoiNaked on December 17, 2015, 08:30:41 PM
Building a platform for crypto-nerds is going to get us nowhere. Building a platform that will attract a wider audience is what will privail at the end.
That depends, only investment nerds watch the stocks and play into it and there is plenty of money in that, others just pay financial investors to do it for them. Crypto doesn't have to be a cash replacement that is just one use and it doesn't need to be used by everyone, adoption will spread if it is good.

Stock yeah but alts not really. A Crypto without any userbase is nothing, the current state of alt trading is just a few whales that got rich during btc boom are manipulating the markets and for the rest its bots. Only way to be successful is expanding userbase, years has gone by and alts marketcap are all stuck at their price, once in a while they go up a little or down thats it. There is no new users being added its all the same old folks.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: BitcoiNaked on December 17, 2015, 08:45:33 PM
Building a platform for crypto-nerds is going to get us nowhere. Building a platform that will attract a wider audience is what will privail at the end.
That depends, only investment nerds watch the stocks and play into it and there is plenty of money in that, others just pay financial investors to do it for them. Crypto doesn't have to be a cash replacement that is just one use and it doesn't need to be used by everyone, adoption will spread if it is good.

Stock yeah but alts not really. A Crypto without any userbase is nothing, the current state of alt trading is just a few whales that got rich during btc boom are manipulating the markets and for the rest its bots. Only way to be successful is expanding userbase, years has gone by and alts marketcap are all stuck at their price, once in a while they go up a little or down thats it. There is no new users being added its all the same old folks.
Nah there are plenty of users in the alt scene the problem is they all spend like 20$ in crypto and not a lot. I think the alt scene is truly is a couple of categories

1: The ones that have users (LTC,DASH,Monero,PPC,NXT, ETH)
2:The Manipulations (Ripple,Bitshares,stellar)
3:The speculators (Byte,Clams,scenario,Prime)

It pretty much comes down to that in alt crypto.

Please stop, their userbase is a joke. ltc more than those but the rest of your suggestion shouldnt even be there. Having users to me is tens/hundred of thousands not couple hundred.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: reRaise on December 17, 2015, 08:52:36 PM
Building a platform for crypto-nerds is going to get us nowhere. Building a platform that will attract a wider audience is what will privail at the end.
That depends, only investment nerds watch the stocks and play into it and there is plenty of money in that, others just pay financial investors to do it for them. Crypto doesn't have to be a cash replacement that is just one use and it doesn't need to be used by everyone, adoption will spread if it is good.

Stock yeah but alts not really. A Crypto without any userbase is nothing, the current state of alt trading is just a few whales that got rich during btc boom are manipulating the markets and for the rest its bots. Only way to be successful is expanding userbase, years has gone by and alts marketcap are all stuck at their price, once in a while they go up a little or down thats it. There is no new users being added its all the same old folks.
Nah there are plenty of users in the alt scene the problem is they all spend like 20$ in crypto and not a lot. I think the alt scene is truly is a couple of categories

1: The ones that have users (LTC,DASH,Monero,PPC,NXT, ETH)
2:The Manipulations (Ripple,Bitshares,stellar)
3:The speculators (Byte,Clams,scenario,Prime)

It pretty much comes down to that in alt crypto.

Please stop, their userbase is a joke. ltc more than those but the rest of your suggestion shouldnt even be there. Having users to me is tens/hundred of thousands not couple hundred.
That's your opinion, in the crypto world these have a lot more users than most of the other coins so in my view I would say they have userbases.

Well it seems doge and getgems have more users than those u listed and their ios hasnt been counted aswell, getgems only has an additional 20k users on ios.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: BitcoiNaked on December 18, 2015, 05:23:12 PM
Building a platform for crypto-nerds is going to get us nowhere. Building a platform that will attract a wider audience is what will privail at the end.
That depends, only investment nerds watch the stocks and play into it and there is plenty of money in that, others just pay financial investors to do it for them. Crypto doesn't have to be a cash replacement that is just one use and it doesn't need to be used by everyone, adoption will spread if it is good.

Stock yeah but alts not really. A Crypto without any userbase is nothing, the current state of alt trading is just a few whales that got rich during btc boom are manipulating the markets and for the rest its bots. Only way to be successful is expanding userbase, years has gone by and alts marketcap are all stuck at their price, once in a while they go up a little or down thats it. There is no new users being added its all the same old folks.
Nah there are plenty of users in the alt scene the problem is they all spend like 20$ in crypto and not a lot. I think the alt scene is truly is a couple of categories

1: The ones that have users (LTC,DASH,Monero,PPC,NXT, ETH)
2:The Manipulations (Ripple,Bitshares,stellar)
3:The speculators (Byte,Clams,scenario,Prime)

It pretty much comes down to that in alt crypto.

Please stop, their userbase is a joke. ltc more than those but the rest of your suggestion shouldnt even be there. Having users to me is tens/hundred of thousands not couple hundred.
That's your opinion, in the crypto world these have a lot more users than most of the other coins so in my view I would say they have userbases.

What is 'alot of users' according to you. Aiming crypto nerds it will only get you so far, you cant really expand beyond that in a significant way.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: bit1 on December 20, 2015, 02:54:32 PM
Some curious a couple at least are in Top  and yet falling prices, However  that might only be a temporary thing.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: KhalDrago on December 21, 2015, 06:02:33 PM
Some curious a couple at least are in Top  and yet falling prices, However  that might only be a temporary thing.

Just network effect isn't everything, there should be services offering easy to buy solution with fiat because mainstream won't really use exchanges, in this case network effect will play a huge role in marketcap. Or you can put a couple whales to play with an alt and manipulate it whenever they want (which is mainly what we seing now or you can reach real world adoption and engage them in trading.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: WaterLooDown on December 23, 2015, 01:28:05 PM
The iOS wallet for Gulden is now available for beta testing. Users can pay at any Gulden or bitcoin merchant, making it the most usable iOS wallet available.

https://developer.gulden.com/images/news/guldenforiostestflight.png (https://developer.gulden.com/gulden-for-ios-testflight)


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: KhalDrago on December 27, 2015, 01:47:24 PM
^ Update when its released in the app store, it should be available to the public for me to put iOS version on yes.


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets Regarding Network Effect - Results
Post by: KhalDrago on January 27, 2016, 05:00:34 PM
Updated list


Title: Re: [MAINSTREAM] Top 10 Mobile Wallets - Post Your Picks
Post by: bram_vnl on February 10, 2016, 01:08:38 AM
https://developer.gulden.com/images/news/guldenforioscomingsoon.png (https://vimeo.com/gulden/gulden-for-ios)
https://developer.gulden.com/images/news/guldenforioswatchthevideo.png (https://vimeo.com/gulden/gulden-for-ios)
https://developer.gulden.com/images/news/iosandroidversion2016.png

This app is coming soon for android and iOS

Gulden wallet andriod https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gulden.androidwallet.nlg
Gulden wallet iOS https://github.com/Gulden/Gulden-for-iOS

http://s18.postimg.org/fbmvuyjsp/image.png

Yes i now the wallet is not on the iOS app store we come back, apple have delete the app

The wallet of gulden is in the Apple store https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gulden/id1069716232?l=nl&ls=1&mt=8