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Title: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: Balthazar on December 12, 2015, 05:23:28 PM
https://www.rt.com/news/325696-putin-complaint-turkey-erdogan/


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One of the members of the notorious Turkish opposition movement has urged a criminal investigation against Russian President Putin for “insulting” and “defamation” of Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Furthermore, Mahir Akkar, a suspect in the Ergenekon ‘coup plot’ case, also wants Russian Deputy Defense Minister Anotoly Antonov to stand trial on grounds of “insulting the president.”

“This is a democratic right but we cannot turn a blind eye to defamation against our president by other presidents or officials,” Akkar said in the letter of denunciation, the Daily Sabah reports.

The plea submitted to the Ankara Public Prosecutor's Office also added that Erdogan can only be criticized if “the boundaries of criticism are not exceeded.”

I wonder what they will do next. Sue reptiloids or what?

Mahir Akkar, I'm telling here that Erdogan is a lunatic asshole. Sue me, please. ;D


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: vero on December 12, 2015, 11:18:34 PM
Erdogan and Putin, a really bad combo. Turkey and Russia always had serious disputes, but they were always compartmentalized. They always kept up the appearances and real trade and deep cultural ties flourished behind it. This overt mud slinging is so uncharacteristic. Stakes in Syria must be real big in Russian calculations, they are willing to pay a big price. This is bad for all.


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 13, 2015, 05:51:49 AM
Erdogan and Putin, a really bad combo. Turkey and Russia always had serious disputes, but they were always compartmentalized.

The Russians are fighting against the Turks / Mongols for the last 700 years, all over the Eurasia (Crimea, Caucasus, Armenia, Georgia, Greece, Volga, Ukraine, Balkans, Siberia, Trans-Caspia, Trans-Oxania, Afghanistan.etc). And they will continue fighting for the next 700 years as well, if the humanity survives for that long.  ;D


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: croato on December 13, 2015, 06:00:02 AM
Turks are known as not so bright ppl but Erdogan and his puppets bring stupidity on whole new level.


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: Balthazar on December 13, 2015, 03:10:25 PM
Erdogan and Putin, a really bad combo. Turkey and Russia always had serious disputes, but they were always compartmentalized.

The Russians are fighting against the Turks / Mongols for the last 700 years, all over the Eurasia (Crimea, Caucasus, Armenia, Georgia, Greece, Volga, Ukraine, Balkans, Siberia, Trans-Caspia, Trans-Oxania, Afghanistan.etc). And they will continue fighting for the next 700 years as well, if the humanity survives for that long.  ;D
They were able to stop this in 1920s. Instead, bolsheviks decided to support Ataturk. If they didn't, there wouldn't be any turkish state, only Greece and some western colonies.


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 13, 2015, 03:40:48 PM
They were able to stop this in 1920s. Instead, bolsheviks decided to support Ataturk. If they didn't, there wouldn't be any turkish state, only Greece and some western colonies.

Russia should have forced the Treaty of Sčvres, which was signed between the Ottomans and the Allied powers on August 10, 1920. It would have compensated the Ottoman Greeks and the Ottoman Armenians, who underwent genocide under the Turkish rule. Instead, the Bolsheviks helped the Turks to escape from territorial loses.


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: Lethn on December 13, 2015, 04:24:37 PM
Erdogan and Putin, a really bad combo. Turkey and Russia always had serious disputes, but they were always compartmentalized. They always kept up the appearances and real trade and deep cultural ties flourished behind it. This overt mud slinging is so uncharacteristic. Stakes in Syria must be real big in Russian calculations, they are willing to pay a big price. This is bad for all.


Russia doesn't fuck around and it's clear a lot of people have rightly held suspicions about Turkey for a long time, the jet getting shot down for violating Turkish borders was probably the final straw given how much Turkey has been getting away with when it comes to provoking other countries.


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 13, 2015, 05:48:18 PM
Russia doesn't fuck around and it's clear a lot of people have rightly held suspicions about Turkey for a long time, the jet getting shot down for violating Turkish borders was probably the final straw given how much Turkey has been getting away with when it comes to provoking other countries.

Erdogan is hoping that any disproportionate response by Russia will unite the Turks behind him. Before the crisis began, the liberal Turks and the Kurds were rebelling against him. A full fledged military operation was underway in the Eastern Turkey, against the Kurdish rebels. Erdogan managed to redirect the media attention from these events.


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: Nemo1024 on December 13, 2015, 06:08:03 PM
I am hoping that Mahir Akkar is nothing more than the equivalent of the Russian populist politician Zhirinovskij.

Putin has been rather careful (almost too careful) and politically balanced when speaking about Turkey and its sultan.


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: salinizm on January 11, 2016, 06:40:11 PM
https://www.rt.com/news/325696-putin-complaint-turkey-erdogan/


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One of the members of the notorious Turkish opposition movement has urged a criminal investigation against Russian President Putin for “insulting” and “defamation” of Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Furthermore, Mahir Akkar, a suspect in the Ergenekon ‘coup plot’ case, also wants Russian Deputy Defense Minister Anotoly Antonov to stand trial on grounds of “insulting the president.”

“This is a democratic right but we cannot turn a blind eye to defamation against our president by other presidents or officials,” Akkar said in the letter of denunciation, the Daily Sabah reports.

The plea submitted to the Ankara Public Prosecutor's Office also added that Erdogan can only be criticized if “the boundaries of criticism are not exceeded.”

I wonder what they will do next. Sue reptiloids or what?

Mahir Akkar, I'm telling here that Erdogan is a lunatic asshole. Sue me, please. ;D

i agree with you.. he can sue me too .. erdogan is definitely son of a bitch..


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: galdur on January 12, 2016, 02:06:30 AM
Russians: always going on with tiresome historical analysis and boring concepts like the connection between cause and effect.

Westerners: don´t waste time on useless shit like the past, only focus on the future, assume that everything started yesterday, in rare cases maybe last year.


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: Bitcoin 420 on January 12, 2016, 02:15:55 AM
Erdogan is a corrupt bastard like the eu also ;)


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: Hazir on January 12, 2016, 03:42:46 PM
Erdogan is a corrupt bastard like the eu also ;)
Eu officials for the most part are just being stupid and blind. From the other hand Erdogan is openly act to the detriment peace and to silently help ISIS.
His actions are is beyond stupid and simply will be harmful for Turkey in the long run.


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: Lethn on January 12, 2016, 03:55:56 PM
Erdogan is a corrupt bastard like the eu also ;)
Eu officials for the most part are just being stupid and blind. From the other hand Erdogan is openly act to the detriment peace and to silently help ISIS.
His actions are is beyond stupid and simply will be harmful for Turkey in the long run.

They're part of the same left wing groups that will blindly defend Islamists against any criticism whatsoever which is why they seem to have no problem siding with the likes of Turkey and completely ignoring any consequences to the people that elected them.


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: BTCBinary on January 12, 2016, 04:12:28 PM
This is making me laugh. Putin is always the Devil and the americans the saints. When is someone or any institution make an accusation on Obama and the US for all the shit they do worldwide. Those asses are the problem not Putin...


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: Balthazar on January 12, 2016, 04:14:57 PM
This is making me laugh. Putin is always the Devil and the americans the saints. When is someone or any institution make an accusation on Obama and the US for all the shit they do worldwide. Those asses are the problem not Putin...
Obama and Erdogan are saints. If you are denying that then you must be a Kremlin's paid agent.


Title: Re: ‘Defaming Erdogan’: Criminal complaint filed against Putin in Turkey
Post by: galdur on January 12, 2016, 05:06:42 PM
It must have hit a nerve with nutcases from Istanbul to Washington DC when Putin talked about people not in favor with Allah. Of course he was too polite to mention that those the gods want to destroy they first make mad. Obama seems to have aged ten years in the last couple years and sometimes seems less than stable so maybe it´s getting there.