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Title: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: r0ach on December 15, 2015, 02:59:43 AM
https://i.imgur.com/ToTK7B4.png

You hear a lot of people try to make stupid, illogical correlations between interest rates and Bitcoin, but the simple fact is, a rate hike implodes the stock market.  Instead of a constantly appreciating Mark Zuckerstein stock, you now have an imploding stock, which makes Bitcoin a far more attractive investment, especially when it's just entering into a bull market in the first place.


Title: Re: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: talks_cheep on December 15, 2015, 03:13:19 AM
Please stop it, r0ach, you're an anti-semitic, racist pig of first grade. Do you really think the Fed gives a sh1t about bitcoins?


Title: Re: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: r0ach on December 15, 2015, 03:20:22 AM
Please stop it, r0ach, you're an anti-semitic, racist pig of first grade. Do you really think the Fed gives a sh1t about bitcoins?

Oh look, the JIDF, pro-central banking, anti-Bitcoin spammer Zionist, who has already created over 5000 spam accounts, is back with a new post.  Your posts are useless now that everyone knows where they originate from.  Go back to your normal tactic of messaging people attempting to buy Hero accounts to spam propaganda.


Title: Re: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: Dafar on December 15, 2015, 05:29:33 AM
Lol at noobs fighting noobs ITT


Title: Re: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: TERA on December 15, 2015, 05:33:15 AM
I thought it was the other way around. Commodities and alternative investments including bitcoin would drop for the same reason as stocks, due to more expensive lending and a stronger dollar. It's savings accounts that people would be eyeing instead of their stocks.

Bitcoin does not have a direct relation with the stock market, but it does somewhat have a relation with the dollar.

Let me know if/how I'm wrong. Here I was hoping that interest rates DONT rise.


Title: Re: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: r0ach on December 15, 2015, 06:28:15 AM
I thought it was the other way around. Commodities and alternative investments including bitcoin would drop for the same reason as stocks, due to more expensive lending and a stronger dollar. It's savings accounts that people would be eyeing instead of their stocks.

Bitcoin does not have a direct relation with the stock market, but it does somewhat have a relation with the dollar.

Let me know if/how I'm wrong. Here I was hoping that interest rates DONT rise.

People who make that claim assume that both stocks and Bitcoin are at peak of the market dues to excess liquidity.  The excess liquidity went ENTIRELY to stock buybacks creating a bubble.  If anything, money was likely leaving Bitcoin at this time creating a vacuum rather than bubble in this market.

Investors wish to either preserve or parlay their stock bubble earnings into further growth.  To do this, they have to leave that bubble and choose a less overbought market.  Bitcoin will be a prime target when it's upside potential is $250,000 to a $1 million a coin.

The front running is just starting when Bitcoin is on the cover of the Rothschild owned Economist and Bloomberg in the same month, then on Forbes two months before:

https://i.imgur.com/e2l77YF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lMUttqD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/29niQHL.jpg


Title: Re: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: americanpegasus on December 15, 2015, 07:35:27 AM

The front running is just starting when Bitcoin is on the cover of the Rothschild owned Economist and Bloomberg in the same month.  Then on Forbes two months before:

 
 
I want to call you a conspiracy nut job, but the fact is: you're not wrong.


Title: Re: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: zimmah on December 16, 2015, 12:56:41 AM

The front running is just starting when Bitcoin is on the cover of the Rothschild owned Economist and Bloomberg in the same month.  Then on Forbes two months before:

 
 
I want to call you a conspiracy nut job, but the fact is: you're not wrong.

Grammatically I think "then two months before" is wrong.


But other than that, he seems to be right. I think we will see large investments soon.       

Even if most millionaires invest only 1% of their wealth into Bitcoin it would skyrocket the price to several thousands of not several hundred thousands.


Title: Re: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: Toxic2040 on December 16, 2015, 01:01:08 AM

The front running is just starting when Bitcoin is on the cover of the Rothschild owned Economist and Bloomberg in the same month.  Then on Forbes two months before:

 
 
I want to call you a conspiracy nut job, but the fact is: you're not wrong.


I have to quote this again. insightful..surprisingly.


Title: Re: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: r0ach on December 16, 2015, 07:22:03 PM
http://www.cornellpump.com/images/Pumpschool2015.jpg


Title: Re: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: goxed on December 16, 2015, 07:43:45 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-16/fed-ends-zero-rate-era-signals-4-quarter-point-2016-increases


Title: Re: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: Trouble821 on December 16, 2015, 08:20:21 PM
I expected more instant reaction than there was, but I guess it's the middle of the night in China. In around five hours time we should find out what they make of the feds rate rise. Maybe it will go sideways for a while because the news was already priced nto the market before it was official.


Title: Re: Federal Reserve pumping Bitcoin on December 16, 2015
Post by: STT on December 17, 2015, 09:01:56 PM
Stocks naturally adjust for inflation as does a limited commodity such as Bitcoin, they do not oppose each other or act diametrically as far as I can see.  Maybe this could be said of Bonds which do react strongly to base bank rates and effective interest rates such as inflation.   I see Bond prices falling while Bitcoin rises but not so much stocks or at least not the productive industry equity, those which rely on funding may fall as debt is more costly to service