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In Gambling any one got cheated by gambling house?

Just share your bad experiences with any gambling houses so other people will be aware of it.

This is a complicated question since the house will always win. They don't need to have cheats to accomplish this. If they play the game unfairly that's something else.
This is why I'm always holding off on playing online. I would rather gamble in an actual casino rather than online.

I've definitely played on some slots that had a very low payout rate, that's something I'll notice after playing a while.
I kinda consider this cheating, but I avoid casinos that have slots like this.

It is possible to check when gambling with bitcoin due to their provably fair method.
Also, don't go to suspicious looking links/casinos, but only use reputable casinos. That way, the risk is much lower as they have a reputation that is worth much more than the little bit they can potentially cheat of individuals.

I really  never had any such bad experiences till date. Also i gamble with limited cash at only reputed gambling websites with hours edges as low as 1%.To be honest, it doesn't matter where you play, the houses  will somehow manage to make their profit and that's how it works. Don't think you can do much about it but cheating is something else compared to this.

Yes. We can always check their provability fair. That why  provably fair in a site need to verified first.
And usually we will feel cheated when we are lost its normal.

For now no one have have cheated in gambling only my friends if we play together playing online with gambling I don't trust that much because they can cheat with it.
So yeah Is just sad that when is cheating that you can lose your money.

If you count the sites where i spent money on, then woke up and the site was gone. Then yes.

I gamble in a lot of sites already.
but even i lose i think i feel dont cheated.
as i always check provably fair. unless if provably fair now can
really be cheated. but as long as i remember. all my loses is caused
by my own mistake because of greediness..
so my answer as of now im still not cheated by any gambling site. :P

Not really i got cheated but i was mislead by Fortunejack once , i had withdraw an amount of 0.003 btc to 180 character string and it was made , i wonder how it could have done , but money got debited from my account and got never credited back !

I don't know if it is cheating by the casino, but if I am gambling, for example at 1.25 odds and I do some bets I win them and if I go all in then I always lose, no matter if I do 99% win chance at very low return, Zit always loses for me, that is why I hate dice.

It depends.  Are we talking about scam Casino sites which only purpose is to grab your deposit and run away.
Or are we talking about services with more elaborate methods of tinkering with the deposits or changing outcome of the bets?
First scenario is rather simply to tell and clear but second is something you will have to provide serious proofs.

It is not completely correct. Because any one can cheat because of money. Bigger reputed sites may be looking for larger amount to cheat so they may not start cheating for just few $ so it is better to watch out on there recent activities or any scam accusations or some suspicious activities from them before adding larger amount into there sites.

It's always good to check if they provide provably fair. To avoid things like these I try to stay away from online gambling. I've never felt cheated on by a gambling site though.

It's good to check out reviews and reputations of the site as well before you start to deposit bitcoins or any kind of money.

In gambling everybody is got cheated by the house. It's their business model..

If they don't provide odss that are in favour of the house, they won't get as much profit as they want. Like every business, to maximize profit is their end goal.

I don't think i have cheated by the house for online betting because i prefer to play only reputable and trusted it is really hard for me to make deposit at any new gambling i give try only with no deposit promo.

House edge does not need to cheat anyone hoise edge it self is the main thing why people loose in casinos and why casinos make so much profit from people that are gambling there

The house always win into long term but it doesn't mean players got cheated by their system as per my experience with gambling casino i never felt like that even i lost sometime but it is part of gambling win or lose.

I mostly like to place bet on sports book so that i don't think there any chance by the house it is all depend on team performance and our decision what we have there for betting, i would like to say i never got cheated by any casino for gambling.

Most sites are using good provable fairness systems that make it pretty much impossible to get cheated. There have been a few casinos that tried to cheat users but those dissapeared soon after. Right now it seems the way you could get cheated are sports books or when the site doesnt want to play out and tells that you have been doing something against the rules.

But it is quite impossible to check site fairness Everyday right? So still site can cheat people if they want

So far I don't feel cheated yet as I only play with reputable casino sites so I am confident I am not being cheated whenever I play. Sometimes I got bad losing streaks but I don't blame it with the house edge, it's just that I'm unlucky :D Anyways , is the topic related to your current signature now? Seems like you've got a bad experience with FortuneJack

What about not playing it so you can get cheated. Well for me I didn't notice that they were cheating.
So for now I don't have a bad experience about it, the only what I have bad experience is when I lose and lose when I am gambling.

I ever feel like being cheated but i dont know whether i have been cheated or not because the site cant provide the hash seed to check

I played using martingale technique, i lost 18 times in a row, but when i check the statistic i never win 10 times in a row, so i kind of feel being cheated it is high and low game with 50% chance of winning

I've never felt cheated directly by any gambling site. Most of the time I blame myself for the mistake I made.
Because I'm the one in control of placing bets and how much.

I used to play poker online until I found out that most of the rooms (even on established and regulated gambling sites) were full of bots. No matter how good I could be I started losing on regular basis. Then I realized that in a room with 10 players there were always three bots.
Very sneaky

Playing poker online is not the best thing to do. Those cards is just so false for me. I would just prefer to play in real tournament or just real casino where people play poker. There you can see there face sweating and all those things.
When you play poker online you can't see if they are just bluffing or they are telling the the truth.

I only feel cheated if I gamble online. Especially when I gamble and there are no actual dealers and it's all just script.
That's why I only gamble when I can actually see someone's face and see the cards.

in gambling cheating or fraud is often the case, in the real world, I've been fooled due to play the game like gambling, so better be careful

As I used to prefer reputable sites (or provably fair sites nowadays), I don't think so.

That is just wild accusations as you have zero proof they are bots. Also you have even less proof that they are controlled by the house. Just because you have a hard time playing poker and have gone on a bad run it doesn't automatically mean they are cheats lol I have played over ten years and a lot of time what I think are bots I welcome because most are not that great to be fair and I remain in profit.



I find it hard to see how we would know this? I only play provably fair sites which have been around for quite some time and never cheated anyone. So to answer your question I have had no bad experience with being cheated by a casino. I have however lost at some casinos and had thoughts it was rigged so checked and all was good just bad luck and they was only thoughts.

It is not impossible for checking their fairness on each bet but mostly people try it once or twice to check it to be sure if nothing wrong they will keep on playing it. Btw why they want to cheat our little money when they can get big profit from people who are losing there? If they want to ruin their reputable site I dont think they will do this kind of trick

I only play on gambling sites where provable fair is provided. I don't like to take my chances where this is not possible.
It's too risky and you can never be too sure. So there is a way to avoid being cheated on, I don't think most gambling sites would take the chance to shed some bad light to their gambling site.

Probably, I already played games that are not probably fair, with giveaway money, so there is no reason why they didn't

It is possible if you want to do it but it will takes alot of time. If you bet with the autobet and you want to verify 1,000 bets then it will take alot of time rather than to play with just few bets instead. However when someone make thousand of bets with autobet, it is mostly just dust bet and it doesnt really need to be verified

Can you tell us where did you play exactly? Without solid proofs it is very hard to back up your accusation. People are always trying to make excuses if they are losing.

I think this has probably happened once or twice to me. I can't really prove it, so I would rather stay away from gambling online.
It's the best thing to do in order to not feel or get cheated on by house.

i feel when im winning alot streak its is fair gambling,
but when lose after winning, i mean in the same casino same games.. i feel it like cheating,
1st its give win and after that keep losing until balance is zero.. i guess ive got cheated by casino house.. but who knows lol

I'm only talking about not being able to judge and predict someone's psichology but I'm saying exactly that you cannot simply play against robots which are programmed to let you lose on the long run.
I mean I love poker and I agree with you: I'll stick to the real one!

when choosing a gambling house, one needs to do a research before depositing money into it. otherwise, you will most likely be scammed.

cheat or not who knows but probably fair is  help you a little to not scared you get cheat by house edge, it complicated sometimes house edge will give you easy money if you know what is a good time to place a bet

the house doesn't need to cheat you cause if they cheat you they will only win from one user and then their biz will end , they can simply provide you fair services and build a good repu and they will make money by just watching people betting and having good time
999dice has a bad repu especially about their provably fair system , so this site may be considered as cheater

very possible homeowner cheat, but as long as I play, I never had the slightest suspicion that the homeowner cheat.
because I always feel, maybe I less fortunate :)

I don't think that gambling sites need to cheat their users in the first place, given that they are tend to win in the long run. There are however some shady gambling sites that aren't provably fair. Or sometimes, the devs could probably be rolling on their own and cheating the house itself to win big (in the case of magicaldice).

is it possible ot be cheated by the house edge? i believe that you might be cheated by the casino but not the house edge also house edge always makes people loose

Yah house edge don't need to cheat with, because you have a high change to just lose.
I think that some online casino who have no good review can be a cheater or scam.

theyre not considered cheaters, they are cheaters. someone proved them to be manipulating the rolls into unfair some some time ago i think if i remember right.

you should always question the owners, especially in a gambling business that may deal with large amounts of money that can change hands in the matter of seconds. i wouldnt feel safe putting my money into a casino without a good established rep.

if i play in casinos i always loose all my money i deposit and thats not too big of a surprise for me it doesnt mean that the house edge is cheating or that casino is cheating its the thing that has to happen because if people wouldnt loose there wouldnt be any casinos

Never had such a case where i would be cheated, but i mostly stick to trusted sites and casinos with either impeccable reputation or
with option to check for provably fair rolls. Once i was not getting my withdraw processed, but it was all resolved in due time, so no loss there either.

holding withdrawals isnt the only way you can get scammed by a casino, they control everything from your balance to your rolls. most of the time, gamblers wont bother to check all of their rolls since it takes so much time, and may overlook that a casino has manipulated or changed the outcome of a potential win to a loss.

If a coin cheats, it will be eventually noticed by users.
Those users will contact them and asking them for an explaning. If they can't provide it, well storm will be breaking loose.

Suppose I found out a casino is cheating me? I will post it on as many forums i could find. Making printscreens etc. etc.
Then I would do the same on twitter and facebook. From there it would get noticed by other users and eventually the casino would be force to close up.

So yeah, they earn a short period of time, but then it is Game Over!

There we go someone who losses and doesn't instantly think the casino is cheating. That is a good way to think but hopefully you start winning because always losing is not nice and I hope you check your rolls etc.

As long as you play at a long standing casino that has had no serious scam accusations you will never have to worry about being cheated.

There is however a risk playing at new casino start ups but again if they are provably fair and have good promotions I'd give them a shot with a small deposit.

It seems like no one was scammed by some casino or online site. People are aware about this things on internet and real word, they inform their selfs about some site before they deposit their money. Also there is some reliable sites where people mostly play so I belive its in their intrest to not cheat.
But people who gamble, me also, knows how sometimes gambling can make us mad, and nervous when we lose and start to blame everything around us for that. Gambling is strange thing and for some people its not recommended!!!

Yes, that's true. When money is involved whether it is for gambling or for any there things first need to check there trustworthy before put you money and most of the people will do this research before adding funds so it is less chances the people get scammed by gambling houses. Gambling houses also want to be in business for long time so they also will to do this because at the end anyway they will be winning the money from players.

I'm talking about like there casino deposits and there services also.

Like I got cheated by this so called reputed casino FortuneJack. This casino cheated me for as small as 0.04BTC so how to trust this kind of casino house to deposit bigger amounts.

I played at 999dice and i kept losing. Realised they were cheating with the seeds and hash.

Not going to play there ever again.

After checking your issue with casino house service in signature campaign, I can't believe this kind of reputed people still can fight with members for small amounts.

FortuneJack is here are quite long time and he should have managed this issue with very professional way instead of blowing up so big for small amount. I believe it is partially FortuneJack mistake for not clearing telling members up front. Your bad luck Minerhq

I think there is no cheat about gambling site because it automated system games..
No matter what happen your always be lose in the end. If this is live it is ok but if you play it in online
There something on the system of the game like dice even 99% you can get lost straigt. how can you explain this?

But so many people still saying that no gambling houses cheated but you got scammed for small amount. For free or small money these sites will go any extent to cheat.

In the crypto world, I am absolutely paranoid about getting scammed and I don't believe a word casino owners say about games being provably fair.  And yes, I know what provably fair means and I'm still paranoid as fuck.  I've never been cheated yet, but the night is still young.   ;)

House will never cheating us, only the owner can cheating us.
Also most of people if see the house win over and over again they usually call it cheated, what a childish.

That sucks if that's true. But I highly doubt FortuneJack will scam that small amount, I mean they have already built a good reputation on this forum and I don't think they will just ruin it for 0.04 BTC. You probably had some misunderstandings with their campaign manager and not scam at all.

So far i didn't cheated by any gamblimg site. What i know, i didn't have any luck, thats why i didn't win. Anyway, just keep gambling guys.

so at least I got to play with the owner of well-known, like stunna, michaell and other. yes I have to play at a trusted site.

I think never, as long as I play in gambling, I always lose but I did not feel deceived, cheated that what you mean?

Well, a few years ago I was betting on some online dice site, and I lost every single time I bet. Even if I did the $0 base bet, I lost every single time. I thought they were legit, and they had a "Probably fair" button, although all it was was a button and a pop-up saying "Fair". No server hash, not even a client hash.

I lost a small amount of bitcoin in dice.ninja when the site closed suddenly and the owners disappeared forever. The lesson I learned is that it is very risky to invest in a new site.

Yes, It is 100% true. They scammed just of so small amount. I don't think they are any more trusted site. There no such think called misunderstanding, you can check the thread even other reputed people also said that they didn't put up rules very clearly but still they don't want to accept his mistake. I don't want any payment but want them to accept there mistake.

Not to mention any casino here, but you should do some reading about provably fairness

I don't think most casinos cheat the gamblers because they know that greed will take all their money away from them.

There might be a few sites out there but they probably don't exist anymore.

I don't think any respected, though, self-respecting gambling house sometime substitute would doubt your credibility or compromise on where any win big or small Scam, but remain not to be mistaken with major setbacks and not succumbing to doubt and not to leave a stain on the ground for their thought - not to happen to remain well-mannered and to have dignity

OP mean maybe not like it, maybe he felt deceived of which owner a website?
I look at the signature
Huft complex problems

For me it doesn't look like a complex problem. But the site owner should be put up things properly and understandable manner for every one. The problem is quite simple but it has blown up quite big. Anyway it looks like site owner is worried much so why we should discuss on this topic here.

It's very unlikely that people get cheated by the house unless the casino is fraud or a ponzi which is a different story.
but some time ago PD had the worst support and many users might have faced loss for that,in some sense.

I don't think he will accept his mistake because he my be thinking that being a pay master he can do anything in his campaign

I NEVER trust anything where I dont see the cards coming out of the dealers hands! at least
with any big money. Playing a few mbtc here and there when bored is one thing but dont trust
especially those casinos tied to sports books like sportsbet.

At the beginning i gambled a lot on some gambling sites. There was one name grandbitcasino what scammed me for 0.01 BTC what i deposited. i was never able to withdraw it again.

You should read the rules better than anyone else before complaining about fortunejack here. They are an honest site and always honor the withdrawals from player, the rules are clear that they will select 4 people and that means people need to work for free in a week as a test first

The good thing about Bitcoin is you can audit the code they use for the gambling system as far as I know, everything is public, this is not possible with conventional gambling. To my knowledge, I have never been cheated by the house, even if sometimes I think im getting cheated on its just probably frustration.

I don't get it. What customer support has to do with people losing at PrimeDice? It is not that staff rigged bets or something like that.
They might process deposits or withdrawal slow but I never heard that someone has been scammed by PD.

Edit:

I don't think this happen anymore. These day people are quick to notice and post they story with proof on social media etc.

It would take hours before the casino would go broke.

it depends on what you are calling the cheating if you mean that loosing to the house edge means that the casino is cheating then you are wrong as everything goes according to the rules the only way for a casino to cheat their players is in my opinion to steal the money from their wallet

To me them winning is a form of cheating. Altough it is legally it's not fair.
That's why I avoid gambling as much as i can. Winning and having a positive balance, is a utopia there..

people only notice quick if people are looking for inconsistencies in their bets and whatnot. usually, people are content to take the website as is and try out a few bets without really bothering to check each and every roll. and if the house was cheating, i dont see how they would go broke, if anything, they would be making a good deal more.

That makes no sense.

If the reason you avoid playing is that the game has an edge in the favour of the house then you should prefer to play online where the edge is usually smaller than in an "actual" casino.

I think plenty of casinos use shady tactics to "cheat". Like have the slots loose when your playing with a bonus and when its real money they tighten them up. Ive had casinos delay withdrawals for hours on end in hopes you will redeposit. There are dozens of other tactics im sure.

Don't support your signature campaign, just because they are paying. Just google it FortuneJack SCAM than you will see how may people complaining of this scam site.

Why would they need to cheat when everything you do with your BTC there costs a thing? That except deposits of course. Am talking about withdrawal fees and house edges.

There's no need to cheat if they've got a legitimate business model.

i think what he mean is that the program will change the odds of winning and losing in demo and real bets. it also happen the same in real life casino where if you bet bigger, the chance of appear special features in slot machine is higher.

I definitely got ripped off by 999dice. I was a newbie and I never heard of the accusation against them before, so I went there and lost  >:(

Nope there is no way they will cheat your low balance of money there. All of them want to expand their casino not just because of a little mistake you could call them cheated or anything else. The withdrawal thing is the most common people said that is cheated, are you guys crazy? Just some late withdrawal and deposit you guys will said cheated? That doesnt make any sense

That is a common sense and all casinos also do not want to lose big amounts so there are chances that some casino may do this kind of cheating for there survival purpose. But we can't say all them will be doing it. Since all these online casinos are programs so any conditions can be applied the program at any point, if they really want to cheat.

maybe you are speaking about slots and else ? cause i don't think offline/real dice has any edge towards anyone ?
The environment of the casino is what gamblers are in search of not just a computer with internet .

999dice first is the site of the biggest dice as I know, all played on there, but they are not good at keeping their users and subscription

What you said may be possible. Some gambling house to attract more people to their site they may allow players to win in demo mode but in actual betting it may be different. You can say we check the site fairness but still I think some sites may have a ways to cheat players.

when every one loses they feel that the house cheated on him i once played a dice game i kept loosing for more then 15 times until i lost it all

I don't think this happens very often, something like this could ruin an online casino. I think it happens with casino's that are new and just starting out.
I wouldn't trust a casino with only bad reviews.

house will always win so they don't really need cheats, and personally i never heard of someone that got cheated by gambling sites, maybe because they couldn't take their money back only but that's not cheating against users,  maybe they cheat on dice games but i don't think so, because they would lost all their players

Yea, sometimes it's a bit too bias and seems to make you lose when you use 40%-100% and go all in, a little to often for coincedence i would say. But thankfully most sites do not.  ;D

i don't know because i was not realize for that but during playing dice i had been lost 8 times in a row i guess that's might be i got cheated by house

I guess that is also cheating to,well i dont know how to read their provably fair thing they called thats why i dont dice and only bet on sports betting.

Many claim that the dice operator cheats because many find it suspisious to lose 20x times in a row especially when they keep adding to their bets but it has never been officially proven, so its false for now.

I heard many cheated gambling before here in gambling section but only primedice is trusted and has more reputation here in our forum.
Unlike other games out there never trusted their system of the game..

Till today i did't faced this type of problem.

sometimes it really feels like i am being cheated in gambling by the house. especially whenever i play a dice game i get this feeling. when i set up the autobet on martingale strategy and let it make bets and come back just to see my bankroll has gone empty but that is just gambling haven't yet checked out the provably fair system completely yet but i checked a couple and seemed ok, but i can't yet shake the feeling.

you can got cheated in new house because they want btc so badly but if you play in populaire house it is impossible to get cheated because they have a reputation to take care of. for me i always play in crypto-games or primedice this two house there is a low chance that you got cheated by them.
but there is some people they lost and then they say than the house cheated them and that wrong he play and he lost.

There are many casino that has been created lately with bitcoin to use but are scam with no real provably fair game and just want pure profit.

Damnit satoshimine damnit !! And these sites that don't bother giving you any warning as to when you used up your bonus deposite .  >:(

If they dont pay withdrawal is that consider cheating?

anyway, theres always a possibility of the game will be rigged and almost everyone will loose at some point, i hope someday there will be an automated way to check if the bet is prov fair,

I talked with people about online gambling and I can say many are very suspicious about online casinos and poker. They think everything is one big fraud. They have their own players who take money for them in cash games or tournaments, casino games are rigged.. and cause of that they don't even wish to start playing on internet.
Do you think there is truth in their words?

When players lose they always say they were cheated when in fact that is how gambling at a casino works. They offer a game with low odds for the gambler to win. You have a 1 in 6 chance to guess the correct outcome. So for every time you choose the right outcome of the stake, you will lose most of the time.
It is not fair, I know. But that is the gamble of the game you are playing.

I dont know if I was ever cheated, honestly I never verified my rolls and never thought about verifying them either.

I just noticed on a site that I am using there is a probably fair link with client seed and server seed with a server hash. I don't know what to make out of that information. But I think that is what you are tell us to be able to verify how fair a site is in it's rolls.

No i dont have experience like that yet and I dont think they are cheating. Most of player saying that house cheat them is the one who lose and they cant accept the fact.

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That's true.. a loser could always feel that they are cheated by the house...Or perhaps the player has no good knowledge about what gambling is he trying...

There are a lot of cases of casinos cheating players. Even with a "provably fair"  system in place, the casino can cheat if not implemented the right way. Also there was a casino that even if it had a good provably fair system (that's how it was caught cheating) it cheated by skipping nonces that would have result in winning rolls for the users. Bottom line is that you should use reputable casinos, always check the provably fair system if it holds,  and verify your rolls.

If you use reputable website it'll be hard to get cheated unless you're cheating in first place. Most casinos have maximum amount you can bet to save their ass from going bankrupt in a second.

Depend on how trusted the gambling site are...
As we know , let say if dice site provide bad reputation, there are high chance for cheating against player by manipulating player's roll ( as far this ever happen on dicebitco.in )
But if you're play on trustable dice site, let say primedice , if you afriad of being cheat by the house, you can always verify the bet to prove it as provably site

In 2014 ago 999 dice was accused by stunna because the owner of 999 dice jake have a bad track record running several ponzi and scam site before.
Also 999 dice can't provide a huge bankroll that they mentioned in the site and the most important their bets can't even verified which mean their house edge totally cheating. And I was played there before,  lost 0.05 twice and I guess I got cheated.

Well, I won 37 btc total on betchain over 1 month (since march 1st),

One day i won 27 btc, cashed out 10, and 10, (20 btc total), and played 7 btc off LOL.

The next day, went to bitcasino.io and won 20 btc on safari sam.

Luck has been gome since this awsomeness happened, haha, but aint complaining.

Only complaint is betchain removed amatics' Dragon Pearl after I took 20btc in a hour with it.

Ps - can anyone check is betchain.com is offline/online? It was offline all day for me, but I hope I didn't get ip banned for winning so often LOL.

man, you're very lucky. Looks like betchain is offline (not loading on my side)

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Idk why i cant post the img properly, ffs

But we are not talking about normal 'fair' gambling and House Edge etc. here. We are talking about blatant cheat (for example manipulation of outcome) done by House.

You can't post images because you are a newbie. And posting images will be possible if you reach Junior Member status I believe.

Aw, thanks for the shameful truth, now everyone knows:( lol.

Kidding.. but thanks for reposting that, Its one of few successful ventures that I had captured.. I will post another, moment.
heres one from the safari goldmine @ bitcasino.io

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Ps, i had this account for a few years (just a lurker, always in the shadows just chillin')

i played (and lost) some BTC cents at 999dice, i read about it that the rolls was rigged, never played again there

i didn't and i don't think that anyone did, it would be really dumb to cheat on gamblers because there are many of bitcoin casinos online now so gamblers will go to play to other sites, but when you try new site you should try to find reviews and find history of that site to avoid any possible scams

no but I neve cheated by house.

Satoshi mine.
Cheat.
Not fair at all never use them.

Of course anyone could really be a victim of the gambling house especially for those online gambling sites most of those sites are not legally registered and abiding the local of international laws so they can really do what they've wanted without being punished.

I am using very limited number of gambling sites to play on. They are well known and hundred of thousands people played and are playing without mention their names. I am not playing to win big and playing normal bets with small amounts. I never experienced something which to create suspicion in my mind. I can say have never been cheated so far even I don't verify every bet.

I don't think the house will ever cheat. They just don't have to. They have the edge on their favor, so there is no need to cheat. Not saying they can't lose money, because they can, but in that case they will not cheat, they will scam you and run away with your money. It's still a different thing in my opinion. I've never been scammed by the house as well so far, but I try to filter them as much as possible.

I do not think that the house ever cheated on me if I am correct because there is no reason for the house to be cheating on the players because if they get caught.
Then they will be fined and I would get them to appear before a judge for sure.

some time you have to face such kind of problem and that is the part of the game but for that minor problems we cannot stop gambling but we have to solve these problems in good way.

Many players like to blame their losses on cheating which is very bad for business and usually result in immediate chat ban.
Players should carefully gather evidence of cheating to support their claims if they want to be taken seriously by gambling community.

There are really dumb people  would  really say these things after  they are experiencing  lose  on a certain gambling site thats why they claimed easily that they are being cheated by the house which is  a common thing  especially to newbies  out there. They dont really know the essence on gambling though.

I always had complaints about 999dice as they never let you win and I think their method of checking provably fair play is not genuine. I played there many times but I think they cheat on their users by manipulating the results that come when you roll.

i personally have a good experience of that, i was cheated by the house for 3 time in dice games and from that day i stop gambling there and then find another space and that is so better than the previous casino.

In my live and my experience with gambling at the casino I have never been cheated on by the house and non of my friends as well.
I trust the casino where I gamble at and I now that they are not going to cheat.

Actually there are will be cases where a lot of users would have been cheated myself inclusive but since I dont know how to verify, I just hold my cool so I believe that its not rigged to their own favor even when I try to verify the seed, I dont even understand what ever is there and thats why I prefer sport betting to any form of gambling because with that my chances of being cheated is actually low compared to other form of gambling...

Though I know hoe to verify the bets where provably fair betting system is implemented but didn't feel need of using that. I don't think well established and good gambling sites even attempt to put their reputation at stake. These things can be seen newly launched sites with lot of bugs. I am using only trustworthy site to gamble.

This is true however few trusted gambling sites use third party services to have different games like video slots with jackpot and there were few known scam accusations against them so these days i only try to play in blockchain based games whose result can be verified within bitcoin blockchain so can't be rigged.

I think websites wherein the house or admin themselves are cheating having been reported in this forum already. People quickly creates a scam accusation against a gambling site right after experiencing something unfair or biased. I haven't been cheated by the house because I only play on famous sites like PrimeDice, Bitsler, etc. but I do know that the house has the tendency to always win.

No, i have not faced this type of issues in any gambling sites. I will not entertain new sites, and I will play an only limited number of sites, Where I am playing all are reputed sites. Slot games I will play in Fortunejack, Primedice and sports betting I only play in Directbet site. Till today I got some withdraw issues, but the site customer support team helped me to solve that problem very quickly. Apart from this I have not faced any problem from these sites.

yes i have been got cheated by the house several years ago but i was gamble using perfectmoney not using bitcoin and i'm playing poker against house and certainly they were cheated me because i got 12 consecutive bad cards and i lost all of my money immediately and after that i was heard that i got several bad review from other players regarding these site and looks like the victims wasn't only me

I don't think they need to cheat as they will earn profit anyway, but for this reason i avoid online gambling, i better play in real casino just because i think it is safier

if you loose doesnt mean the house cheated you, its just badluck and the only time we can call cheating, is when the house dont honor our withdrawals

I never got cheated on by the those so far I can remember my gambling moments, is it even possible for the house to cheat?
I guess that it is possible but I would not expect it at all from the casino.

Yes, cheaters in casinos are always there. Actually, there are famous house cheaters or players in casinos with the likes of Tommy Glen Carmichael, Richard Marcus, Ron Harris and Read McNeal, Ida Summers etc. If one house will be observant, he will notice that he has been cheated. They are the one misinterpreting the game. Especially on online casinos rigged by their hidden house edge.

If there's cheating that is happening, I am pretty sure it's not the house that will cheat us as they do not need to do it since they have the advantage. In addition, they need to take care of their reputation as that gives them consistent money.

If only I have the resources, I would have establish a gambling site.

Why do you think real casinos are safer? Because they also can do a lot of things to cheat people, so it is all depends on whether you choose trusted site or casino to play. All these trusted sites know that if a player plays longer time, then they will be a winner at the end, so they will come up with more promotions and new games to attract more players. You just need to find a good site to play.

Yes indeed the house have to system that built for them to win in the long run its just for the players how to deal with their luck, we all knew that the house always taking care of their reputation to have more and more players so better to keep it as it is.

This thread is about cheating of casino operators, not players. Currently all big casinos have provably fair system, but there was a thread here when someone had proven that it is possible for a casino to cheat on some provably fair games that utilize card shuffling and be unnoticed.

This kind of cheating will be done by the casino owners who doesn't know how to make profits from maintaining the house profitable by getting more and more users to play on their site. They are a lack of knowledge on marketing, if they do it properly then they can surely make a lot of profit without cheating players.

Well, then really you should learn how to verify things first and then gamble.
Every site has a page that explains how their system works, while its not so simple but actually if you do it step by step you will quite easily get the hang of it. I have verified the results of directdice very often and glad to say they were provably fair.

I've heard a lot of hear say about cheating in casino mostly in slots machine. since it was a computer generated it was all setup for the house to win. so once you win in slots machine better quit and play cards instead.  :)

Suppose they earn 1 btc daily and they see people having investment and deposits totaling over 100 btc then they sometimes get tempted.

While most of  the sites don't take investment (like primedice), I always prefer to play on such sites only. Because scamming chances of sites taking no investment are much lesser than the ones taking investment.

Actually gambling  houses   could  possibly cheat its  players  by manipulating the  results   especially to those  computer  operated   houses . Its really possible  thats why as  a gambler   or  a person  does  have  sense  on  this  possibilities  we  must really find  some  proofs  or  indications that the   house    is not cheating  on us like seeing  the  hash and  seed  on each roll, showing its  provably fair system and  also select the  most   reputable gambling site.

Hehe, I also have the same feeling when anyone asks for verification, because if I will verify all the bets I will make, then it will take 1 hour to make 100 bets. Anyways I have never been cheated literally by any house and I do not want to accuse anyone of cheating me unless I am sure of it.

I also not faced this type of issues in any gambling site, I usually play only reputed sites, and I most probably do only sports betting, To doing this activity I choose only one best sports betting site. And slot games I only play in few sites. So my suggestion is to do your gambling activities in only best-reputed sites don't try new sites until you get full information about that site.

i think those who's claiming being cheated needs to double check because gambling sites needed players so make cheat will move them away and its not a good business to happen they wanted to attract more and more players and never in their minds to keep them away its just a system that builds to win or some edge in the long run but obvious cheating i can't see that with those site that i already played my sports game and some dice.

I have never faced any problems with any websites and I think the reason might be because I used to gamble small amounts only.
House edge has always been fair because I tried to check their provably fair almost on each bet that I played (for e.g.; dice).

obviously out of these many different gambling sites and the increasing popularity among users, there is bound to be some of them who try to cheat their users. and in fact this has happened a couple of times in the past. you can always check the scam accusation topic and also the owners of these sites' reputation to see the cases.

but the good news is that they are caught soon. so you never see any that is scamming last long. and people will eventually stop gambling there.

i was cheated by freebitco.in about three times .
i tried to gamble with 1 lakh satoshi ( which is collected by me per hour capatcha clear ) but i lost my all btc .
i was gambling with tric but continuously 20 bet lost and then finally i loss one month hardwork .
i tried the Same for two more times but i got the Same type loss .

Can you consider my suggestion? just run a dice simulation and play with yourself to see if you go far without losing your fund.

#! /usr/bin/python
 
import datetime
from random import random,seed
from os import urandom
 
print "Martingale Simulator"
 
def roll(chance):
    if random() < chance:
        return True
    else:
        return False
 
base_balance = balance = int(raw_input("balance [1000]: ") or 1000)
base_bet = int(raw_input("base bet [1]: ") or 1)
chance = float(raw_input("winning chance [.5]: ") or .499)
 
 
won = lost = max_lost = turn = 0
max_profit = balance
current_bet = base_bet
 
snap=datetime.time()
 
seed(urandom(4096))
 
while balance >= current_bet:
    balance -= current_bet
    turn += 1
    if roll(chance):
        won += 1
        balance += current_bet * (1/chance)
        current_bet = base_bet
        profit = balance - base_balance
        if profit > max_profit: max_profit = profit
    else:
        lost += 1
        current_bet *= 2
        if current_bet > max_lost:
            max_lost = current_bet
            print "turn %d: balance: %d | won: %d | lost: %d | max_profit: %d | max_lost: %d" % (turn,balance, won, lost, max_profit, max_lost)

well it's really about manipulating the results of gambling games. i believe the house has control over these results since in the end, they won't accept the fact that they were beat. no one beats the house in gambling. so in a way, to know or being able to manipulate the results is considered cheatingac. well doesn't actually matter because we still keep on playing anyways

Due to the provably fair system the chances of admin scamming have become very low. The problem though is that the sites block withdrawals when a player wins big and that has now become the only way to cheat users. I think though that we must verify bets when we are betting with big amounts.

I never blame the house when i loss in gambling. I never think that i got cheated by the site even once because i was the one who is betting , choosing prediction or picking my own bets or calling or folding in poker. I always tell myself everytime i loss that it's just not my day today and i'll just try to recover all next time.

Till now I have not got cheated by the house as I am not playing on gambling with high bets I am only playing with smaller amount and whenever I notice that I am going to high I withdraw them all before someone cheat me.

If you gamble on trusted sites then cheating may not happen even you bet with higher amount because they know how to make a profit for them without cheating players. It is good profit business as long as they can attract more and more players because house is the one going win at the end. So they no need to cheat players and make a profit.

I agree with you, not  all  gambling sites  do  really not need to  cheat  to its players   to make  profit as  you mentioned  the  house itseld  already  know that they  will still  earn  profits   for the  long run and  its better  to establish a good reputation  for  more potential  players  for  longer runs  because  if soeone   sees  your site  is  rigged or manipulated  then your site would not last  because this news  would  spread  throughout  gamblers all the internet and  will surely ignored your  site.

Actually I am also against it, like directbet right now uses a casino where games are out of my mind how they are fair and who controls them, all I know is just that because directbet has a good history here I trust their games too. But yeah if sometimes those game providers cheat, I will surely neg rep the owner that is directbet.

It's hard to believe a big website like PrimeDice would ever cheat. That feel you got is actually because you've been unlucky. The house edge doesn't cheat on you, but imagine having your own casino and letting all players win. Your business would bankrupt in the next moment.

They would not do that as they are making millions with the huge bettor who patronize their site. What is important to them is their reputation and they are protecting that to the highest level. They are winning not because they cheat but because they have the house advantage.

Yup, certainly, sometimes a gambler when keeps on winning they would tell every body that it is a nice site, but if they keep on losing, they would tell everybody that they were cheated. The truth is, no one is cheating us when we are betting( except for a few, if those threads are really true ).  Gambling sites needs its house edge or else they cannot pay the expenses to operate it.

I always look for rep btc casino to play so i believe i am not cheated even though i have lost a few btc. Having said that, i have seen a lot of people got cheated. The most obvious cases are the house ran away with all the deposit btc and even the investment bankroll.

It would really need  commonsense to do these things  because  if you are  a wise  man  you would always seek  for the most  reputable gambling sites  because  you could assure yourself that  you are  playing  on a  reputable  site and  you would  really think that   they dont cheat  but   just  pure  luck  in able to win.  I do  heard some gambling sites  who rans away the  funds on their   players.

Exactly, that's what you should do especially when you are putting a big amount of money. Big sites does not cheat as they value their reputation. Primedice is the biggest gambling site here for a dice game, you can gamble with that site if you want to have a real provably fair.

Only a person that doesn't accept defeat from the house will tell that he was cheated by the house. And he should not be gambling with any gambling site if that his belief. Usually we all know that the house has always the chance and favor against us, gamblers. So if you gamble and thinks that you have more chance of winning than the house, then that can boost your confidence.

Correct, you should really do these  steps  and considerations  when  you  decide  to  play  gambling and   putting  up  huge bankroll  be sure  to  go  on the most reputable sites  because they wont  really cheat  you    and same as  you said   they are taking care off their  reputation that they build for  years  already.

I didn't get cheated, I was just very unlucky. I lost around 15-20 2x in a row. Needless to say, I was pretty bummed out.

I had more bad experience than yours got 23 red in row with 2x odds on dice game, but I also think it doesn't mean we have been got cheated that casino, after my biggest winning streak were 16 green in a row.

wow 16 green if you keep maximizing your bet for sure you will really win a lot from it, moving back i also experienced that particular losing streak i was able to bet everything i have from my wallet inside yobit as in everything i first happy since martin fails strategy really works and keeps bringing good earnings but when things goes to the other way i lose control of my emotion instead of quitting i did bet everything ending up to burn my bankroll and i didn't blame the house that cheated me i blame myself because it is my fault to keep playing even i seen too much loses.