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November 05, 2016, 06:34:30 AM
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I have never faced any problems with any websites and I think the reason might be because I used to gamble small amounts only.
House edge has always been fair because I tried to check their provably fair almost on each bet that I played (for e.g.; dice).
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November 05, 2016, 06:35:35 AM
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obviously out of these many different gambling sites and the increasing popularity among users, there is bound to be some of them who try to cheat their users. and in fact this has happened a couple of times in the past. you can always check the scam accusation topic and also the owners of these sites' reputation to see the cases.

but the good news is that they are caught soon. so you never see any that is scamming last long. and people will eventually stop gambling there.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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November 05, 2016, 06:42:56 AM
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In Gambling any one got cheated by gambling house?

Just share your bad experiences with any gambling houses so other people will be aware of it.


i was cheated by freebitco.in about three times .
i tried to gamble with 1 lakh satoshi ( which is collected by me per hour capatcha clear ) but i lost my all btc .
i was gambling with tric but continuously 20 bet lost and then finally i loss one month hardwork .
i tried the Same for two more times but i got the Same type loss .

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November 05, 2016, 07:31:42 AM
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Can you consider my suggestion? just run a dice simulation and play with yourself to see if you go far without losing your fund.

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def roll(chance):
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November 05, 2016, 04:10:38 PM
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well it's really about manipulating the results of gambling games. i believe the house has control over these results since in the end, they won't accept the fact that they were beat. no one beats the house in gambling. so in a way, to know or being able to manipulate the results is considered cheatingac. well doesn't actually matter because we still keep on playing anyways

 
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November 05, 2016, 04:45:26 PM
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I think websites wherein the house or admin themselves are cheating having been reported in this forum already. People quickly creates a scam accusation against a gambling site right after experiencing something unfair or biased. I haven't been cheated by the house because I only play on famous sites like PrimeDice, Bitsler, etc. but I do know that the house has the tendency to always win.
Due to the provably fair system the chances of admin scamming have become very low. The problem though is that the sites block withdrawals when a player wins big and that has now become the only way to cheat users. I think though that we must verify bets when we are betting with big amounts.
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November 05, 2016, 11:00:37 PM
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I never blame the house when i loss in gambling. I never think that i got cheated by the site even once because i was the one who is betting , choosing prediction or picking my own bets or calling or folding in poker. I always tell myself everytime i loss that it's just not my day today and i'll just try to recover all next time.
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November 05, 2016, 11:56:52 PM
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Till now I have not got cheated by the house as I am not playing on gambling with high bets I am only playing with smaller amount and whenever I notice that I am going to high I withdraw them all before someone cheat me.
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November 06, 2016, 12:07:26 AM
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Till now I have not got cheated by the house as I am not playing on gambling with high bets I am only playing with smaller amount and whenever I notice that I am going to high I withdraw them all before someone cheat me.

If you gamble on trusted sites then cheating may not happen even you bet with higher amount because they know how to make a profit for them without cheating players. It is good profit business as long as they can attract more and more players because house is the one going win at the end. So they no need to cheat players and make a profit.
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November 06, 2016, 03:52:56 AM
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Till now I have not got cheated by the house as I am not playing on gambling with high bets I am only playing with smaller amount and whenever I notice that I am going to high I withdraw them all before someone cheat me.

If you gamble on trusted sites then cheating may not happen even you bet with higher amount because they know how to make a profit for them without cheating players. It is good profit business as long as they can attract more and more players because house is the one going win at the end. So they no need to cheat players and make a profit.

I agree with you, not  all  gambling sites  do  really not need to  cheat  to its players   to make  profit as  you mentioned  the  house itseld  already  know that they  will still  earn  profits   for the  long run and  its better  to establish a good reputation  for  more potential  players  for  longer runs  because  if soeone   sees  your site  is  rigged or manipulated  then your site would not last  because this news  would  spread  throughout  gamblers all the internet and  will surely ignored your  site.
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November 07, 2016, 06:07:55 PM
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Though I know hoe to verify the bets where provably fair betting system is implemented but didn't feel need of using that. I don't think well established and good gambling sites even attempt to put their reputation at stake. These things can be seen newly launched sites with lot of bugs. I am using only trustworthy site to gamble.
This is true however few trusted gambling sites use third party services to have different games like video slots with jackpot and there were few known scam accusations against them so these days i only try to play in blockchain based games whose result can be verified within bitcoin blockchain so can't be rigged.
Actually I am also against it, like directbet right now uses a casino where games are out of my mind how they are fair and who controls them, all I know is just that because directbet has a good history here I trust their games too. But yeah if sometimes those game providers cheat, I will surely neg rep the owner that is directbet.
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November 07, 2016, 09:32:18 PM
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It's hard to believe a big website like PrimeDice would ever cheat. That feel you got is actually because you've been unlucky. The house edge doesn't cheat on you, but imagine having your own casino and letting all players win. Your business would bankrupt in the next moment.
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November 08, 2016, 03:02:17 AM
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It's hard to believe a big website like PrimeDice would ever cheat. That feel you got is actually because you've been unlucky. The house edge doesn't cheat on you, but imagine having your own casino and letting all players win. Your business would bankrupt in the next moment.
They would not do that as they are making millions with the huge bettor who patronize their site. What is important to them is their reputation and they are protecting that to the highest level. They are winning not because they cheat but because they have the house advantage.

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November 08, 2016, 05:44:02 AM
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It's hard to believe a big website like PrimeDice would ever cheat. That feel you got is actually because you've been unlucky. The house edge doesn't cheat on you, but imagine having your own casino and letting all players win. Your business would bankrupt in the next moment.

Yup, certainly, sometimes a gambler when keeps on winning they would tell every body that it is a nice site, but if they keep on losing, they would tell everybody that they were cheated. The truth is, no one is cheating us when we are betting( except for a few, if those threads are really true ).  Gambling sites needs its house edge or else they cannot pay the expenses to operate it.

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November 08, 2016, 09:46:33 AM
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I always look for rep btc casino to play so i believe i am not cheated even though i have lost a few btc. Having said that, i have seen a lot of people got cheated. The most obvious cases are the house ran away with all the deposit btc and even the investment bankroll.
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November 08, 2016, 10:07:17 AM
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I always look for rep btc casino to play so i believe i am not cheated even though i have lost a few btc. Having said that, i have seen a lot of people got cheated. The most obvious cases are the house ran away with all the deposit btc and even the investment bankroll.

It would really need  commonsense to do these things  because  if you are  a wise  man  you would always seek  for the most  reputable gambling sites  because  you could assure yourself that  you are  playing  on a  reputable  site and  you would  really think that   they dont cheat  but   just  pure  luck  in able to win.  I do  heard some gambling sites  who rans away the  funds on their   players.

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November 08, 2016, 12:55:09 PM
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I always look for rep btc casino to play so i believe i am not cheated even though i have lost a few btc. Having said that, i have seen a lot of people got cheated. The most obvious cases are the house ran away with all the deposit btc and even the investment bankroll.

It would really need  commonsense to do these things  because  if you are  a wise  man  you would always seek  for the most  reputable gambling sites  because  you could assure yourself that  you are  playing  on a  reputable  site and  you would  really think that   they dont cheat  but   just  pure  luck  in able to win.  I do  heard some gambling sites  who rans away the  funds on their   players.
Exactly, that's what you should do especially when you are putting a big amount of money. Big sites does not cheat as they value their reputation. Primedice is the biggest gambling site here for a dice game, you can gamble with that site if you want to have a real provably fair.

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November 08, 2016, 03:37:54 PM
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It's hard to believe a big website like PrimeDice would ever cheat. That feel you got is actually because you've been unlucky. The house edge doesn't cheat on you, but imagine having your own casino and letting all players win. Your business would bankrupt in the next moment.
They would not do that as they are making millions with the huge bettor who patronize their site. What is important to them is their reputation and they are protecting that to the highest level. They are winning not because they cheat but because they have the house advantage.

Only a person that doesn't accept defeat from the house will tell that he was cheated by the house. And he should not be gambling with any gambling site if that his belief. Usually we all know that the house has always the chance and favor against us, gamblers. So if you gamble and thinks that you have more chance of winning than the house, then that can boost your confidence.

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November 08, 2016, 03:54:03 PM
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I always look for rep btc casino to play so i believe i am not cheated even though i have lost a few btc. Having said that, i have seen a lot of people got cheated. The most obvious cases are the house ran away with all the deposit btc and even the investment bankroll.

It would really need  commonsense to do these things  because  if you are  a wise  man  you would always seek  for the most  reputable gambling sites  because  you could assure yourself that  you are  playing  on a  reputable  site and  you would  really think that   they dont cheat  but   just  pure  luck  in able to win.  I do  heard some gambling sites  who rans away the  funds on their   players.
Exactly, that's what you should do especially when you are putting a big amount of money. Big sites does not cheat as they value their reputation. Primedice is the biggest gambling site here for a dice game, you can gamble with that site if you want to have a real provably fair.

Correct, you should really do these  steps  and considerations  when  you  decide  to  play  gambling and   putting  up  huge bankroll  be sure  to  go  on the most reputable sites  because they wont  really cheat  you    and same as  you said   they are taking care off their  reputation that they build for  years  already.

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November 08, 2016, 04:13:43 PM
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I didn't get cheated, I was just very unlucky. I lost around 15-20 2x in a row. Needless to say, I was pretty bummed out.

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