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This really doesn't build trust, and is kinda dumb. You should just ask for loans you need.

I mean, I would be selling that bitcoin for a High amount, enough to cover the interest and a few extra coins in my pocket, so it is not a loss to me in any way.
But I understand your logic and I respect it.

BTC1 paid to 1CsfmhJsR1XBQVjTYqY3XNJPAFPWCFm4zP with transaction id 1e7810a8e26ce5e2d1dbf1bd243fc0325e7e6a0ea78d1a106b00f8fd44eec621

Repayment address: 1Lqn63GCUETRyYkZAw4ik9UVPWUa42k9AR

Always good to do business!

BTCJam verification means nothing. It's a completely worthless rating.

THANKS! You will have 1.05 sent back to you within the next 36-48 hours.

Again, thank you.

(To and for some the BTCJAM rating does show good work

1.0 BTC sent to 15TncZKz358pha6L8v2v8NnoqKvhq6QZEf (txid 76a36ca782834cb7c9dcb6a5c07ded2c28302669d66e0e942fef081c2ad91d7d).

Please repay 1.05 BTC to 1AWHyzzpT523Fc2nguw24FUNwx5Mp5mesq before 2012-12-09 23:59 EST.

1 BTC sent to 15TncZKz358pha6L8v2v8NnoqKvhq6QZEf (txid https://blockchain.info/tx/7218d5a1338ad3fa8ac53cc485c1138766f6134cab6c1e361fba86de80e61e07 (https://blockchain.info/tx/7218d5a1338ad3fa8ac53cc485c1138766f6134cab6c1e361fba86de80e61e07))

Please repay 1.05 BTC to 1HpbudHsMw5eEviWEwky7ng1mNM7SS3mBH

3 people gave this guy bitcoins I guess I have say the sad news. You guys will not be getting paid back.

https://btcjam.com/listings/780
https://btcjam.com/listings/850

Two listing of 500btcs and 100btcs. As you read he talks about a exchange of some sort, he never gives a URL. You have read the comments and you get this http://bitcoinfinancialservices.yolasite.com/ a poorly designed web site with no automatic functions. Surelly someone like this
could have designed a better site. Ok so he can't design sites but wait
They could surely put some away and pay for a designer and domain. But again lets pretend that isn't true and move on with our search. He calims to be charging
fees. That is insanely high fee plus who charges variable fees, I guess one day he likes you and the other day he don't you getting the high fee. But if you see nothing wrong with every other thing, then this will be the red flag. No one in there right mind would use a exchange with variable fees, when every other exchange uses flat fees.
He gives this B.F.S.,LLC and Bitcoin Financial Services, LLC as like he is a real business, if you googled you would see that it belongs to a insurance agency, click the link a really bad web page comes up. Also if you google Bitcoin Financial Services, LLC and do a LLC look up you would find out that there is no LLC in that name anywhere in the USA.

You all been scammed have a nice day lets play this game sometime again.

 ???Well i hope I can shut you up and proof you otherwise poster above me

I am legit. And yes, we ran our business through a free site for almost a year now.

And we mostly do exchanges, we just started to do loans.

You will see when our new site launches this month that it will be a nice site and easy to use and a lot more appealing.

NO SCAM IN PROGRESS ON MY PART.

Ill share EVERY piece of personal information to anyone, and I actually prefer and sometimes require identification and phone numbers and other info for people we deal with.

If they give US a loan, than we dont need their info. Our info is verified in MANY different sites and we plan to be a daily active, productive member of this website and others.

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You missed a huge issue, why are you passing your self off as an LLC when you clearly don't have an LLC for your business this is misrepresentation.

How are you 3 IT professionals yet you have no automatic way to grab contact information and it is a very static web site?

You actually didn't answer any of my points above

5% interest every 48 hours?  That is 7000% APR.

PONZI

I was only accepted 3-5 people, and I have over 300 coins available on hand. And I intended to pay WITHIN 48 hours.

It was to get some trust over here on bitcointalk, but I guess some people just complain, ill move on and leave the complainers alone.

Would you like to see business documents? We are legit, EIN and a DBA and a DnB Profile.

yes post them

Complainers or just investigators, cause we are not complaining we are finding holes in your statement and we wish you would back them up.

look even if you are telling the truth, we aren't meaning anything offensive or anything oriented towards
attacking you. Its just that we as a community has seen this many many times in the past,
and it turned out to be a complete scam, basically one person can ruin it for the rest I know.
I myself been scammed 15 BTC which is a lot of money.

So just take our words into consideration, it isn't meant with harsh meaning.
We just want more info.

Hopefully you understand.

Best regards
Lightlord

1.05 BTC repaid as agreed: http://blockchain.info/tx/35a61c1db95570b2e8cd13e2d8fc037bcfd5dc5b05912e8ac6520b9a7972fcb2

No need.  Just provide the name of the state where you filed your articles of organization.  An LLC has a specific meaning.  It is a legal construct that exists independently of its owners.

So in which state(s) is B.F.S.,LLC registered?

BitFi Services is our DBA (Doing Business As), we removed any mention of LLC, EXCEPT when you see our actualy company name, which is an LLC. And we are registered in Virginia.

Ok not seeing your DBA filed in Virginia, and I am not seeing your Virgina LLC file so yea

Maybe someone else can see if they can find it

OTHERWISE THIS IS A

SCAM

DBA  for BitFi Services was filed locally here on Monday.

HabJab Webmasters LLC is our registered name with the IRS and State since 9-7-2011.

Still nothing in Virginia for the LLC

Look I have it posted in a picture frame on my wall right in front of me
Business Name: HabJab Webmasters LLC
"MY NAME" Sole MBR
"MY ADDRESS"

And has my EIN on it. Filed and Printed 9-7-2011 with the IRS.

and , damn, all this over 1-5 bitcoins that were lent and being paid, lol, what is up with so many people SHOUTING SCAM ALERT.

I took the information you provided and it didn't check out. Now is the state of Virginia lying or you. It isn't over 1-5 bitcoins you have loans of out for 600btcs and I am about to post this thread there so people don't get scammed otherwise you can try and connivence me that you have an LLC for that company.

https://sccefile.scc.virginia.gov/Find/Business?SearchTerm=HabJab+Webmasters&as_fid=te2AGw244AG%2Be00In2RX

SynOps, I'm not sure if you're aware, but receiving 1 BTC and sending it right back does not build trust.  In fact, it's a common tactic used by scammers. Were you intentionally setting yourself up to look like a scammer?

This is his business website?  http://bitcoinfinancialservices.yolasite.com/

This is a scam.  Plain and simple scam.

That is a temporary site , our real, with the help of Ziggaps web designer, will be up and running by christmas.


Im going to remove this PDF after a while, but here is proof of business;

http://freepdfhosting.com/0f24fb2c85.pdf (http://freepdfhosting.com/0f24fb2c85.pdf)

I was not aware of such a tactic. I have been running at the least , 2 businesses, since I was 16. Having now 11 years of experience.

Than who the hell is taking my tax money I pay which seems like 4-6 times a year?? And how come I have not been audited for either of my businesses?
Its all legit.

So I looked up your EIN and it returns nothing.

In fact asking for such a loan is likely to do the opposite of what you intend. Its even better if you ask for a loan to buy weed on silk road than to state "its for buidling trust" lol

Hmmm... Does one of the three live in Branford, CT?

I may be rasta but that doesnt mean I smoke weed, wtf!? Im sorry that different forums/sites/irc channels have different values and respect towards people.
Shit at this point I rather be banned from here than called a scammer.

Do scammers go through the trouble of trying to keep their name clean? IMO, I would think if they got called out, they would move on to a new scam.

If I had any intentions of scamming, I would hide my IP, use a fake name, and not post my real information online.

FYI: I BLACKLIST ANYONE WHO MENTIONS SILK ROAD/BMR/LHG (those are the 3 I hear about all the time), Im a legit business and don't need or want illegal/grey area customers.

No, why?
2 Live in Richmond, VA
1 Lives in Fredericksburg, VA

You missed my question, why can't I search your EIN and it should show your business but it doesn't, why are you not in the VA LLC database? Too many questions your a scammer!

You missed the point of what Im saying. Asking for a small loan to "build reputation" effectively does the opposite.

A better way to do it is ask a respected escrow agent to hold a "bond" for you.

Just say you held 50 btc with nanotube for instance then people could know its safe to trade with you that amount, because its actually backed by collateral.

I am not sure, I have never searched for my own EIN because I have it in paper , framed on my wall.

Where are you searching to try and find this info?

The government websites to look up this type of information, and a 3rd party site, neither have any information

This may be true, but if you hold 50BTC in escrow and then you can only borrow up to 50 BTC, what did you win? You're effectively borrowing your own money and paying interest on it to boot. If people would allow you to borrow up to n times the escrow amount, that would still make sense.

Otherwise it makes about as much sense as a fully secured "credit" card, without the credit building part though.

I understand the more I thought about it, but, also, some sites, it takes small mini loans at first before people start letting you borrow bigger amounts.
Nobody here is being forced to give me a loan, and nobody is being forced to use me as an exchange.

I have heard of "escrow agents" but never felt I needed one for any reason. nanotube is in the same channel im always in, so Il have sent a PM to him/her/them and asked about their services and how it all works.

Link?

Some collateral is better than nothing.

You need to pay to see the database. Dude your scamming you don't have an LLC your company is a fake.

Ok, so? Ill gladly pay.
I PMd you over in the bitcoinotc irc channel.

ok I am not on irc (bouncer) right now obviously
http://www.einfinder.com/ << the one I used

https://law.lexisnexis.com/infopro/zimmermans/disp.aspx?z=1420 << someone told me about this one as well

Read, motherfuckers! I even had the company name in the search argument, all ready for you.

Almost every (or every) state provides records online for free. Just be sure to look for the specific state's, not federal.

(... lazy bastards...!)

I already saw this and he isn't listed and so I am being super nice and even checked his EIN just incase, but yea no LLC or EIN linked to LLC

Speculate all you want, it wont hurt me. I know I am legit. Even went out of my way to dig up my Commonwealth of Virginia Department of Taxation document.
Tax Type: Pass Through Entity
Virginia Account Number: 38-453184167-F001
Filing Frequency: Calendar
Effective Date: 09/2011

And I can still login at https://www.business.tax.virginia.gov/VTOL/Login.seam

So in my eyes/opinion 2 things could have happened.
1. We missed our annual payment to VA SCC
and/or
2. Those sites your searching for info at are not 100% reliable.

Ill know more Monday when government is open, but I can honestly say I am legit!

Relevant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75742.0

Ive read that when I first joined because I need to hit that 4 or 5 hour mark so I could post in the BTCJam thread to confirm my identity  ;D
Ive read almost every damn sticky on this site,  :P

I PMd a few Admin/Mods including you , John (johnthedong).

Replied.

For your record I lent Synops 11 BTC (repay in 10 days).

Repayment addr: 1BFE5QaL8TTEf2LeF81iS9cp3XXoFudFMU

I DO NOT ADVISE ANYONE ELSE TO LEND TO SYNOPS AT THIS TIME.

PAID; https://blockchain.info/address/1Lqn63GCUETRyYkZAw4ik9UVPWUa42k9AR

I may be addicted to gambling.......but this guys an outright scam artist.   He tried to scam me out of my yubikey yesterday. Tried everything in his power to get me to send it first.   He never sent payment.

Let the salem witch trials begin

Your the liar dude, I will gladly forward our emails to any moderator or admin. I never once said that I wanted the code prior to sending funds to you.

I decided not to get it from you because I got one from another user on here.

ALSO, YOU ARE THE SCAMMER, YOU STILL OWE ME COINS FROM THE LOAN I GAVE YOU.

YOU EVEN ASKED TO BE LABELED A SCAMMER!

<nanotube> i have occasionally escrowed things. but currently not in the process of any. (TAKEN FROM bitcoin-otc IRC CHAT)

Nanotube does not bond or escrow at this time, just thought I would let those that mentioned Nanotube know what the reply was to asking if they offered that service.

maybe you should save time and request one also

Thanks for the quick reply and conversation John (johnthedong).

And no Lurk, im not a scammer or addicted to gambling.

BTC1,05 repaid by SynOps today at 13:37 UTC, transaction id 722b8af33363dedf5ed80a4b661bc84b5ec3e28c75f365151543c62f23fa18ea

Thanks!

Also, I have made a few loans to SynOps on BTCjam and they have always been repaid promptly or early so far.

Received my payment. Many Thanks.

Your welcome everyone.
I do apologize for acting like a noob by posting this thread, as I stated before, It is what I was used to doing with other sites, and have had 100% ratings everywhere I am listed online with Bitcoin sites.

Everyone has been paid and I am locking this thread.

THANKS