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Title: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: chaween on January 05, 2016, 12:10:21 PM Hello, Sorry for my bad english.
I'm newbie I want to exchange Paypal to Bitcoin. I saw in this topic : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1313874 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1313874) . I have sent message to him for trade. I sent USD 450 Paypal to him without escrow (cus I don't know what's it). I sent through Paypal payment as gift. This is paypal payment : http://oi68.tinypic.com/23jlj5h.jpg He tell me he will sent btc when he back home in 20 min. (January 04, 2016, 12:33:56 PM) But now he not respone and I can't reply that topic. User Name : mobiletalk User Profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=332881 User PayPal Email : peterwaight42@gmail.com Him Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/hoanmy.trannguyen.9 Facebook account Name : Tran Nguyen Hoan My He live in Vietnam. This maybe him picture (from facebook) http://oi65.tinypic.com/1tuf02.jpg Chat log : http://oi63.tinypic.com/6596kh.jpg How can I recovery my Paypal back? Anyone know how to chargeback if payment as a gift? Thanks for help. If he sent btc to me I will delete this post. Edit : Now he close an Facebook account (January 05, 2016, 02:31:30 PM) Title: Re: I think user "mobiletalk" scammed me Post by: OnTheMF on January 05, 2016, 12:15:02 PM this is why escrow are used to protect you from scam,always use escrow
he isn't online since last 7-8 hours,hope he will comeback and send you money Title: Re: I think user "mobiletalk" scammed me Post by: chaween on January 05, 2016, 12:18:45 PM this is why escrow are used to protect you from scam,always use escrow he isn't online since last 7-8 hours,hope he will comeback and send you money Thank you. Next time I'll use escrow. Title: Re: I think user "mobiletalk" scammed me Post by: OmegaStarScream on January 05, 2016, 12:28:13 PM Transaction that involve Paypal-Bitcoin don't really need an escrow honestly because transactions are reversible .
If he indeed scammed you , then contact paypal and tell them . If you paid from your Credit card then it will be even easier to chargeback by contacting the credit card company . Title: Re: I think user "mobiletalk" scammed me Post by: KWH on January 05, 2016, 12:29:06 PM Start a chargeback, do not mention Bitcoin. Escrow is useless with Paypal as a chargeback can be done anytime in the next 180 days.
Also, you should have read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0 Title: Re: I think user "mobiletalk" scammed me Post by: chaween on January 05, 2016, 12:37:05 PM Transaction that involve Paypal-Bitcoin don't really need an escrow honestly because transactions are reversible . If he indeed scammed you , then contact paypal and tell them . If you paid from your Credit card then it will be even easier to chargeback by contacting the credit card company . Start a chargeback, do not mention Bitcoin. Escrow is useless with Paypal as a chargeback can be done anytime in the next 180 days. Also, you should have read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0 Thanks for the good advice. I will chargeback soon. Title: Re: I think user "mobiletalk" scammed me Post by: chaween on January 05, 2016, 01:34:38 PM He online but not respone.
http://oi68.tinypic.com/2mn0weu.jpg Title: Re: I think user "mobiletalk" scammed me Post by: chaween on January 05, 2016, 02:11:48 PM My bad, I'm didn't see him feedback. He scammer since 2015. Why he not getting ban?
http://oi63.tinypic.com/etfvjr.jpg I think I can't chargeback becuase I payment as a gift. Paypal siad "We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly". Anyone know how to chargeback if payment as a gift? Title: Re: I think user "mobiletalk" scammed me Post by: OmegaStarScream on January 05, 2016, 02:31:18 PM My bad, I'm didn't see him feedback. He scammer since 2015. Why he not getting ban? http://oi63.tinypic.com/etfvjr.jpg I think I can't chargeback becuase I payment as a gift. Paypal siad "We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly". Anyone know how to chargeback if payment as a gift? Administration don't ban scammers because they will basically comeback using other accounts and since multiple accounts are allowed there is nothing to do to stop them , however people leave negative trust on profiles , so you just shouldn't trade with negative trust users . After you PM'ed me , I searched little bit and here is what I found : http://www.sythe.org/archives/807713-can-you-chargeback-paypal-gift.html (see in bold below) Quote There are two ways that you can be charged back on PayPal. The first is Item dispute, saying that you did not receive the item, the item is faulty, etc. This is cancelled out in PayPal gift (as there is no item.) Secondly, there is Unauthorized dispute, this IS applicable to Gift, as you are saying that you were not the one who sent the money, and PayPal will hold the money and investigate. I also believe you can ring PayPal and ask them to open a dispute on gifts. __________________ Title: Re: I think user "mobiletalk" scammed me Post by: chaween on January 05, 2016, 03:44:30 PM My bad, I'm didn't see him feedback. He scammer since 2015. Why he not getting ban? http://oi63.tinypic.com/etfvjr.jpg I think I can't chargeback becuase I payment as a gift. Paypal siad "We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly". Anyone know how to chargeback if payment as a gift? Administration don't ban scammers because they will basically comeback using other accounts and since multiple accounts are allowed there is nothing to do to stop them , however people leave negative trust on profiles , so you just shouldn't trade with negative trust users . After you PM'ed me , I searched little bit and here is what I found : http://www.sythe.org/archives/807713-can-you-chargeback-paypal-gift.html (see in bold below) Quote There are two ways that you can be charged back on PayPal. The first is Item dispute, saying that you did not receive the item, the item is faulty, etc. This is cancelled out in PayPal gift (as there is no item.) Secondly, there is Unauthorized dispute, this IS applicable to Gift, as you are saying that you were not the one who sent the money, and PayPal will hold the money and investigate. I also believe you can ring PayPal and ask them to open a dispute on gifts. __________________ Thank you. Now I ask to open a dispute on gifts. Waiting respone from paypal. Title: Re: I think user "mobiletalk" scammed me Post by: ppprk on January 05, 2016, 03:51:32 PM Thank you. Now I ask to open a dispute on gifts. Waiting respone from paypal. Hello chaween I sent you some messages here via private messages and guide you how to reversed or charge backs open on your paypal payment' so act fast and I am sure you will got back your money!!!! Title: Re: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: chaween on January 05, 2016, 04:04:04 PM Hello chaween I sent you some messages here via private messages and guide you how to reversed or charge backs open on your paypal payment' so act fast and I am sure you will got back your money!!!! Thanks. Now My paypal Dispute status is Waiting for Seller's Response. I'll search for more information about Scammer!! Title: Re: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: icem3lter on January 05, 2016, 09:27:15 PM Why are you even worried?
Simply call up PayPal and tell them to reverse the transaction. Explain to them how you were scammed. You would not even have to start a dispute or a charge back. Been there done that. Title: Re: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: chaween on January 15, 2016, 01:23:43 AM Update:
Paypal Closed my case, but I not receive my money. In email Paypal said. Quote If you made this payment intentionally, but you never received your item or you received an item that was different from what was advertised, we may be able to investigate this payment for you and help to find a satisfactory outcome. If you want to take this option, please let us know and we can open a claim for you. I don't know how can I let him know and open a claim about I get scammed. Please help :( Sorry I'm not good English. Title: Re: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: darkstarzz69 on January 15, 2016, 03:57:44 AM Look for any specified link or email address in the e-mail you received and reply to that. Otherwise if you are unsure, take a screenshot of the e-mail you received from Paypal and link it for us to help you. Do remember to hide any private information.
Title: Re: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: zazarb on January 22, 2016, 11:06:54 PM Recently scammer, after reversed transaction change pp email from peterwaight42@gmail.com to coinyoo548@yahoo.com
Title: Re: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: Spoetnik on January 27, 2016, 10:32:03 AM crypto + Paypal is against the TOS
Read it before clicking "Accept" ::) Title: Re: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: BigJon901 on January 31, 2016, 08:28:58 PM crypto + Paypal is against the TOS Read it before clicking "Accept" ::) Here we have a typical annoying fucking Indian who is mad because PayPal doesn't want scum like him on the site Title: Re: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 31, 2016, 08:42:42 PM crypto + Paypal is against the TOS Read it before clicking "Accept" ::) Here we have a typical annoying fucking Indian who is mad because PayPal doesn't want scum like him on the site Edit: While I'm here, did OP ever get his money back? I do recall seeing this thread earlier in the month. Title: Re: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: zazarb on February 01, 2016, 12:32:24 AM I do not know or OP received money back, but
soon after last OP action(16 Januar), PP held my two transaction received from mobiletalk (aka JemeRD) 22 nov 2015 and after 2 week investigate full refund him. Title: Re: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: nasi on February 01, 2016, 12:36:36 AM call paypal don't give up and learn from your lesson don't buy from somebody with neg feedback or low feedback maybe test him 10 20 dollars and see.
don't give up call them or let your friend relative to call them for you and stay next to him and give him all the things your know details and such. please don't give up even if your english not that perfect Paypal as a company willing to help you and do a big investigation. Mobile talk if you see this i tell you this if this guy calls you will get in big trouble. Paypal will chase you and do an investigation . Title: Re: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: nasi on February 01, 2016, 12:38:04 AM call Paypal don't give up cuz it happened to me and i got my money back and guy who scammed get in a big trouble hehe
Title: Re: User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL Post by: Timelord2067 on February 01, 2016, 04:35:14 AM crypto + Paypal is against the TOS Read it before clicking "Accept" ::) Here we have a typical annoying fucking Indian who is mad because PayPal doesn't want scum like him on the site Quoted and also archived for future reference. http://archive.is/UMMuS |
