User "mobiletalk" is a scammer !! He scammed me 450 USD PAYPAL

[chaween]

Hello, Sorry for my bad english.

I'm newbie I want to exchange Paypal to Bitcoin. I saw in this topic : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1313874 .
I have sent message to him for trade. I sent USD 450 Paypal to him without escrow (cus I don't know what's it). I sent through Paypal payment as gift.

This is paypal payment : http://oi68.tinypic.com/23jlj5h.jpg

He tell me he will sent btc when he back home in 20 min. (January 04, 2016, 12:33:56 PM)
But now he not respone and I can't reply that topic.

User Name : mobiletalk
User Profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=332881
User PayPal Email : peterwaight42@gmail.com
Him Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/hoanmy.trannguyen.9
Facebook account Name : Tran Nguyen Hoan My
He live in Vietnam.
This maybe him picture (from facebook)
http://oi65.tinypic.com/1tuf02.jpg

Chat log :
http://oi63.tinypic.com/6596kh.jpg
 

How can I recovery my Paypal back? Anyone know how to chargeback if payment as a gift? Thanks for help.

If he sent btc to me I will delete this post.

Edit : Now he close an Facebook account  (January 05, 2016, 02:31:30 PM)

[OnTheMF]

this is why escrow are used to protect you from scam,always use escrow
he isn't online since last 7-8 hours,hope he will comeback and send you money

[chaween]

this is why escrow are used to protect you from scam,always use escrow
he isn't online since last 7-8 hours,hope he will comeback and send you money

Thank you. Next time I'll use escrow.

[OmegaStarScream]

Transaction that involve Paypal-Bitcoin don't really need an escrow honestly because transactions are reversible .
If he indeed scammed you , then contact paypal and tell them . If you paid from your Credit card then it will be even easier to chargeback by contacting the credit card company .

[KWH]

Start a chargeback, do not mention Bitcoin. Escrow is  useless with Paypal as a chargeback can be done anytime in the next 180 days.
Also, you should have read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0

[chaween]

Transaction that involve Paypal-Bitcoin don't really need an escrow honestly because transactions are reversible .
If he indeed scammed you , then contact paypal and tell them . If you paid from your Credit card then it will be even easier to chargeback by contacting the credit card company .

Start a chargeback, do not mention Bitcoin. Escrow is  useless with Paypal as a chargeback can be done anytime in the next 180 days.
Also, you should have read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0

Thanks for the good advice. I will chargeback soon.

[chaween]

He online but not respone.
http://oi68.tinypic.com/2mn0weu.jpg

[chaween]

My bad, I'm didn't see him feedback. He scammer since 2015. Why he not getting ban?
http://oi63.tinypic.com/etfvjr.jpg

I think I can't chargeback becuase I payment as a gift. Paypal siad "We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly".

Anyone know how to chargeback if payment as a gift?

[OmegaStarScream]

My bad, I'm didn't see him feedback. He scammer since 2015. Why he not getting ban?
http://oi63.tinypic.com/etfvjr.jpg

I think I can't chargeback becuase I payment as a gift. Paypal siad "We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly".

Anyone know how to chargeback if payment as a gift?

Administration don't ban scammers because they will basically comeback using other accounts and since multiple accounts are allowed there is nothing to do to stop them , however people leave negative trust on profiles , so you just shouldn't trade with negative trust users .

After you PM'ed me , I searched little bit and here is what I found : http://www.sythe.org/archives/807713-can-you-chargeback-paypal-gift.html (see in bold below)

There are two ways that you can be charged back on PayPal.

The first is Item dispute, saying that you did not receive the item, the item is faulty, etc. This is cancelled out in PayPal gift (as there is no item.)

Secondly, there is Unauthorized dispute, this IS applicable to Gift, as you are saying that you were not the one who sent the money, and PayPal will hold the money and investigate.

I also believe you can ring PayPal and ask them to open a dispute on gifts.
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[chaween]

My bad, I'm didn't see him feedback. He scammer since 2015. Why he not getting ban?
http://oi63.tinypic.com/etfvjr.jpg

I think I can't chargeback becuase I payment as a gift. Paypal siad "We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly".

Anyone know how to chargeback if payment as a gift?

Administration don't ban scammers because they will basically comeback using other accounts and since multiple accounts are allowed there is nothing to do to stop them , however people leave negative trust on profiles , so you just shouldn't trade with negative trust users .

After you PM'ed me , I searched little bit and here is what I found : http://www.sythe.org/archives/807713-can-you-chargeback-paypal-gift.html (see in bold below)

There are two ways that you can be charged back on PayPal.

The first is Item dispute, saying that you did not receive the item, the item is faulty, etc. This is cancelled out in PayPal gift (as there is no item.)

Secondly, there is Unauthorized dispute, this IS applicable to Gift, as you are saying that you were not the one who sent the money, and PayPal will hold the money and investigate.

I also believe you can ring PayPal and ask them to open a dispute on gifts.
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Thank you. Now I ask to open a dispute on gifts. Waiting respone from paypal.

[ppprk]

Thank you. Now I ask to open a dispute on gifts. Waiting respone from paypal.

Hello chaween

I sent you some messages here via private messages

and guide you how to reversed or charge backs open on your paypal payment'

so act fast and I am sure you will got back your money!!!!

[chaween]

Hello chaween

I sent you some messages here via private messages

and guide you how to reversed or charge backs open on your paypal payment'

so act fast and I am sure you will got back your money!!!!

Thanks. Now My paypal Dispute status is Waiting for Seller's Response. I'll search for more information about Scammer!!

[icem3lter]

Why are you even worried?
Simply call up PayPal and tell them to reverse the transaction.

Explain to them how you were scammed. You would not even have to start a dispute or a charge back.

Been there done that.

[chaween]

Update:
Paypal Closed my case, but I not receive my money. In email Paypal said.

If you made this payment intentionally, but you never received your item or you received an item that was different from what was advertised, we may be able to investigate this payment for you and help to find a satisfactory outcome. If you want to take this option, please let us know and we can open a claim for you.

I don't know how can I let him know and open a claim about I get scammed. Please help 

Sorry I'm not good English.

[darkstarzz69]

Look for any specified link or email address in the e-mail you received and reply to that. Otherwise if you are unsure, take a screenshot of the e-mail you received from Paypal and link it for us to help you. Do remember to hide any private information.

[zazarb]

Recently scammer, after reversed transaction change pp email from peterwaight42@gmail.com to coinyoo548@yahoo.com

[Spoetnik]

crypto + Paypal is against the TOS
Read it before clicking "Accept" 

[BigJon901]

crypto + Paypal is against the TOS
Read it before clicking "Accept" 

Here we have a typical annoying fucking Indian who is mad because PayPal doesn't want scum like him on the site

[The Sceptical Chymist]

crypto + Paypal is against the TOS
Read it before clicking "Accept"  

Here we have a typical annoying fucking Indian who is mad because PayPal doesn't want scum like him on the site

Quoted for reference.  Don't know if your account was actually hacked or not, but I don't want the above going away any time soon.

Edit:  While I'm here, did OP ever get his money back?  I do recall seeing this thread earlier in the month.

[zazarb]

I do not know or OP received money back, but
soon after last OP action(16 Januar), PP held my two transaction received from mobiletalk (aka JemeRD) 22 nov 2015 and after 2 week investigate full refund him.