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Hey!

I've been thinking about setting up a gambling site. Hiring the developers and making something really unique.

I'm just out of ideas. I was wondering if you would have any ideas about gambling sites I could do? Mostly looking for something really unique, which functions well.

Thanks

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UPDATED! Changed what I want slightly! Please check page 3 post 2 for more info.

You don't have any ideas and you're not a developer. Good luck!

Ice-Cold.

I agree though, you're going to have a hell of a time getting anything worth-while together when you yourself aren't bringing anything to the table. Regularly if you want something done right you're going to have to do it yourself, and that follows when you're trying to start one of these endeavors.

Hey, there's no reason for being a dick about this

I'm just asking what you guys think about potentially good and unique gambling game ideas.

I'm a software developer, can't make anything web related.


Good point.

You probably won't get anything without offering a payment.

People won't share their ideas on making money, if you don't give them any money. Otherwise they may do their idea themselves.

...Just A Suggestion...

If you are a software developer and you are having a hard time doing anything web-related, than I suggest you focus some time on learning a new skill. :P

I think the best unique game is just like a battle base game like league of legends or dota2 or any game that can battle of two team or player.
Just like a battlecoin or bomberman battle. and i think it will attract more people to play because its skill base game..

I have a unique game idea. please give me some reasons why I should give it to you. but some good reasons please :)

Lol, well certainly what do you have? Money? that's a start, I mean plenty of it. I had an idea (not really unique but unique in Bitcoin as far as I'm aware) and I'm a graphic designer but I'm no developer and I have no money to invest so I'm screwed. PM if you are interested and if you are interested in it we can maybe do a partnership.

its a very hard thing nowadays to create a unique game, even if you had an idea about it i doubt that anyone would enough money for making a quality website as you need a lot of funds

Just some points to remember
1) Do not let the developers have access to provably fair, or similar feature of the site. MD was screwed this way because their devs knew the seed generation/could access the adminstration.
2) Be sure to have at least 20 BTC when making a gambling site, if not, you're going to have a hard time making profits
3) Be sure to make it provably fair, anything else(except softswiss etc, but a you said, you need a new idea) might be considered rigged and when the complaints later come, you have no way of proving the site is not rigged

Good luck

As I understand it, 20 BTC startup wil not be enough.

You would need much more than 20 BTC, as I understand that you need to get a license to run a gambling site in most jurisdictions. This means, you must go to court in order to get your licence: you need a good solicitor too to sell your case, otherwise you are acting illegally to create a site without a licence that envolves gambling.

Well, if he has a lot of money then "not a developer" is not necessary since he can simply hired a few developers and do all the coding for him.
And I believe he can use his brain to think some unique ideas unless... ::)

20 BTC is not enough but why does he need a license? did he mention that he wants to open a fiat casino? this is a bitcoin forum and I would assume that he meant a bitcoin game. Op please correct me if I am wrong

Even bitcoin casinos require licenses if you reside in the US, or other jurisdictions that require this. The license is EXPENSIVE too, and you would need heavy funds and a thorough plan for this.

OP wanted something unique though, and probably for exactly this reason.. To avoid the legislation that's against you nonsensically and to not be a redundant clone of anything else.

I have to say, many legal officials do not consider Bitcoin to be money. So BITCOIN casinos do not require licenses. When you are reporting your income however, you might get into a bit of trouble. I haven't seen anyone needing a license to operate a Bitcoin casino.

I was being interviewed for being a representative of a few bitcoin casinos that had a heavy investment backing them and a team of executives with various backgrounds working on the project.
According to them at least, operating under the Softswiss licenses, they were required to pick up a "gaming license" which is the same as an online fiat casino.

They were operating in the US, out of the UK and other European countries.. I'm not sure, but it could be because they were planning on converting their earnings to fiat?

I love that idea! Lets hire some anonymous developers to develop a gambling site that has not even been thought of yet. I am sure that the developers will be very trustworthy and helpful in creating a site that they love playing at and bleeding the bankroll.
I have some ideas for gambling sites but it is hard to build something unique and trusted that can be done on such a small bankroll.
Be careful.

Chances are, a good gambling site idea would already be taken.
Good luck finding an idea

Make a reverse gambling game, so when you lose the game you will earn more money and when you win the game you will lose your money

nice idea but do take note that there are very good programmers that can create very powerful bots to win $$. so the design of such ideas has to be very very careful.

On the first place it will take years to build a game like that and even more difficult to add money/coins in that ,you will get legal issues for copyright otherwise.If they create such a game then they don't have an edge for the house to win and wont be profitable for them.

I don't think it is a good idea as it would just cause a lot of confusion to the players, especially when they don't read the rules carefully. Think about this, when a new player come to the site to see "win" on his screen and to see his money gone, they will definitely considered getting scammed and spread the news everywhere.

Okay how about domino poker? I think bitcoin gambling sites not yet have the game like this and I my self really expecting the game like that.
It's might not unique but because there is not yet bitcoin casino sites implemented this game I think you can considering this. Goodluck

this is a great idea but it needs more understanding and think in depth. this could be a skill game because it needs skill to lose.

did anyone try to play chess and the loser wins?

I dont know that is the best game or not because first they need a lot of player which is takes times to finish even one game. And the prize should be worth enough. Until now there is no really PVP games that give you a good payout. And this kind of game can't attract people to keep on playing it, if you compare to dice site, dice is still the best because of easier to play so if you want to build a unique game you can based on dice but modified it I think that will be better

just remember, just because an idea isnt being widely used means it will be successful, more often than not a particular idea isnt mainstream because there is no demand for it. even if it was to be made, it might not be successful without an interested playerbase. in addition, it isnt easy for a new service to become popular with so many established ones already without a lot of money poured into advertising.

Make a web mmorpg game with btc in game $ and gambling contents

My idea worth a lot of $$ :D

there is a lot of people with great ideas but if ideas r not made into action, it is quite hard to get any $$ out of it.

This.

There is currently only one MMORPG bitcoin gambling site: Dragon's Tale, http://www.dragons.tl/ while there are already many good bitcoin casinos, dice sites, poker sites and sportsbooks out there.

Maybe make something similar to Dragon's Tale, an MMO where players can gamble bitcoins on different kinds of fun games - both luck based and skill based, solo and PVP, while also interacting with each other socially.

The market is relatively saturated with all the traditional mainstream types of gambling. But there is only one bitcoin mmo gambling site. So while not unique, it is a relatively under-served market.

I my self want to see more pvp-based games. I have experienced in local FIAT gambling site where players are able to be the dealer. The game is called by "ceme". It is just a card game using domino card but it attracts so many players in my country because of its simplicity.
This how the game looks like http://pokerbo.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/bandar-ceme-online.jpg
It would be nice to see this game in bitcoin.

You would lose money for games like roulette.
If the number selected is say 20.
The odds are 2x

One user picked 19
The other, 18
And another, 2

You pay out at 2x to each of these. Losing you money.

For games like BJ, people would get something under 10 and just stick with it (knowing that they will win).

Though for some games this may work, Like Poker, you will gain money.

If you want some good ideas, host a contest and reward the best idea with a prize? i'm sure you'll get some very good ideas from many people. ;)

why should someone give his unique idea for free or a small amount? all game and gambling ideas are already know and live

Do a p2p gaming site where people can play skill games against eachother for bets in bitcoin.  Take a % of earnings for yourself and everyone wins.

I think your bitcoin gambling site launched an apps that support android and iOS, if you do not mind seeing my thread here for the recommendation :)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322173.0

I can only help you a little idea of this, cheers

If you want really unique then make a game like Magic the Gathering with points and stuff but with bitcoin in it but it would require a lot of programming. I think there is still space for a Poker Maven's based Poker room, don't make it too complicated, just nice simple graphics, easy to play and deposit/withdraw. If you have the funds to keep it running and promote it for a while, it will work.

What about the idea of clash of clans.
But instead of strategy to conquer someones base.
You make it do like a gamble to each other. :P
Im really looking same as C.O.C in bitcoin world. :(

Unique would be to make site with more card games. There is a lot of card games hard to find to play, vist, remi, brige... many others. Playing such games for bitcoins sounds great. Also some tutorials and free rolls for some new games for people to learn easier.
Of course its just my perspective cause I like to play card games and I like to learn new interesting games.

Lately, I have been thinking of something similar as well. Gambling is banned in my country (you should consider that as well before proceeding). How much funding you're willing to sponsor? You could implement a real good peer to peer poker or monopoly game with gambling.

I was actually not really thinking about opening a huge ass bitcoin casino. More like a simple dice site, but, well, with a different "game".

Also was thinking about a "satoshi" casino, where people with smaller anounts of money could gamble with a low maximum bet amount.

Concidering these things, how much capital would I need altogether? I'm sure most of it goes to making the new game, but what about everything else?

PS: I'd like people to play against the house, but with a slight skill element involved.

if that is all what you wanted to do actually a dice site/game I propose to look at the moneypot.com option and test your idea there and it should cost you almost nothing it is full client side and just a domain is needed. there is also a ready dice script available on github for free

feel free to ask any questions

You'll need at least 20 to 30 BTC. That's about how much I spent making mine. I say, mine is "different" or "unique", but in the end, it's still a game of chance.

It's also for sale, in case you want to buy it.

Wasn't really looking for a actual dice game. Was referring to the way the dice sites were built. Merely a simple deposit, gamble, withdraw process. Nothing else.


I'll look into it thanks.

There are really less arcade games in gambling at the moment.So more arcade games will not be a bad idea.For Example : Something like Mario but you earn bitcoins through that or whatever similar ,you know what I mean ?

i see, your site 64blocks are truly unique, never seen the game models like that before. but you know the problem is your game is not easy to play and not many people like to read how to play. so maybe the unique game idea is not enough, there must be easy to use game like dice, the game with only 5 secs learn required.

I am confused now. are you looking for a game idea or as it looks like you have already an idea what kind of game you want to do and asking for the costs?

Do you have marketing channels ready for the product ?

what could you promise him or to any casino games owner if you do the marketing?

I do.


Looking for the idea and also interested what the cost it. Not including the bankroll

to tell the cost one would need to know the game idea to understand the workload. IMO you will not get a unique idea here. you will need to come up with your own idea

good luck

To take over the marketing needs in terms of Branding, Search Engine Optimization, Media campaigns and others. See CoinPoint for more information.

Tying to say here that good product is important, but marketing is not less relevant in these times where lots of games are out there.

The problem of banning is quite low and could easily be solved when users download a simple vpn or tor browser.But the budget and a unique idea is what matters as there are hundreds of casino's or gambling sites promoting themselves already, of course not all will succeed.

5 seconds? Most people who play the lotto (Mega Million or Power Ball) take at least a minute to read their choices, pick some 6 numbers from 1 to 49 or something. Or select Quick Pick or Lucky Pick or Instant play.

Problem is we can see that the most popular card game over many years for gambling is poker. Setting up other games wont be as popular, no point trying to reinvent the wheel.  New games would be making some p2p betting possible on popular games that are played today.

I don't know even close how much will cost to make a site like this, but since you've asked about ideas, here's mine:

Make a dice gambling site whith fast bets, nice chat, good look and make ZERO house edge there. All gamblers of the world will be attracted to your site and then you can earn from advertising banners.

Well you need to do is find a good name for the site judimu, and make good regulation so as to make the gamblers are interested, you also have to memberika giveaway every week so that many who join the gambling site that you created, and this is the most important, pay the pemainmu quickly and timely

Has anyone done this before? if you have zero edge im not sure some gamblers are even bothered, they want to risk money to win money. Its strange why this model doesn't usually work though.

If you have zero edge, without infinite bankroll or at least a very significant one, because of variance there is a probability that you will lose all your bankroll at one point. Anyway coming to, advertising banners, I don't believe big gamblers would come to a place plaqued with ads. You're just suggesting an idea for a faucet

In my opinion you can go for poker online with real players playing with house edge profit because i am not able to find the real players site very good like fiat currency sites are but try to keep the site lite so it loads it fast and works fast.

if you are planning to open just a dice then you will have to be really sure that there will not be a possibility that people will not like the game and that it will be very unique as people are searching for other games than dice nowadays

just opinion i not see yet gambling site with bowling games
i think its unique and interesting also accept altcoin to play it ;)

Unique gambling game?  I guess a sex gambling game will be nice to play isn't it?
Also sudoku game player vs player based  what do you think?

i think soccer bet player vs player. you can change the odds in accordance with the agreement.
but I see sites like that, there is rarely a player or user
like betbtc

I have not seen any gambling site or skill based site that offers 8 ball pool or chess to play with bitcoin and compete player vs player.If you want you can apply this and create such site.It will be unique too ;)

There are already too many dice games website and hard to make it unique than the other. I still remember before this when tf still well-known coinchat have many unique game that people can make themself

Infinite bankroll not needed if you bet micro small with zero edge, if we had a 1 BTC bankroll and bet 50% chances with a bet of 0.000001.  Nobody on planet earth would ever go broke probably in the whole existance of humanity.  In theory with infinite time yeah i guess  you can go broke.

Pool and chess is already exist in bitcoin and I ever play that but they are not making any site to let all people gather around for playing it. Just let people 1vs1 with OP, after one done then wait others for playing again same to chess but last time I didnt see many people attract to this game because it takes time meanwhile people want a fast gambling game that fast earn too

yay, love to see an unique project in action. hope u guys go far. things go a little bit boring lately.

Yeah it needs long time to make game like that and also the ping of every player or every country If you place is to far i think he will experience lag while playing.If this game is finish or done in the future  i think it will attractive to people especially for those who addicted on this game and also it will attractive to professional players outside.
If this is done or success in the future we will increase because player of this game is very popular..

When were you able to bet bitcoins on pool matches direct at a site? if so i want to play.  I know some people play and bet bitcoins outsite of the site but that is different.  Chess is impossible for betting.

yah chess is very hard to bet cuz it is long, the popularity of chess is not that great so limited bets pool, and can cheat easily.

its very hard to think of any unique games nowadays and just an ordinary dice gambling game will surely have no luck because people dont need any more of it

yes, the main problem wouldnt be that its long matches, the problem would be that people would use programs to play it, thats why its very hard to create pvp games

don't be that low and obstructive. why don't think in a optimistic way and have fate?

i dont think so. there is so many ways to tap on it. just like the bomberman, we also can have minesweeper, maybe next we have mario, donkey kong, pac man etc. all these oldies games can come back to life.

Those would be cool to play, gambling and playing those games,
sounds very interesting.
I would definitively try these out if someone made those games.

Yeah they are a lot of gambling site that are popular.
Is just to just make a good website and just try, but I have seen people ask more for p2p they are not that much in gambling site.

Same thing for poker though you can create bots but the game at higher level of play in far too complex.  If you create a complex game the bots can only do so much.  Chess isn't an option, pool might work for a while.

Nothing much as of unique game I have seen yet, maybe I feel the ideas like bustabit is awesome and innovative, moreover I love plinko and sometimes I also feel to try hands at minesweeper.

Something like this yeah. You must give users the impression that you can use skill to gain advantage.

it is very hard to create something unique with dice, i would just recommend you to think of a new great idea that has never been done, that would be way more interesting in my opinion

How would it be different from a normal game like dice except that the api would call a won roll a lost one? This could be done in seconds by changing one line of the code.

dice can be combined with other things to make sth new, so it maybe not too hard. like the game Tiny Dice Dungeon, a great combination for dice, except not a gamble though.

it sounds like risk whereby u go conquer other terrority and use dice to fight who is the winner. lol. really sounds like a great idea here.

i wouldnt recommend doing that to be honest, people dont like to play any dice any more so we dont need something like that, we need new and unique ideas that are not connected with dice

i dont think that it is possible to think of something very unique with just ordinary dice games at this point, i think the community needs more pvp games to be created not dice

Are you sure about it? AFAIK, dice is still  st the most played game till now because of it is the easiest and the fastest game to lose or win money :)
But yeah, it is not good idea to create another dice site because it will not so hard efforts to gain players because there are many trusted and better dice sites. 

It's hard to start with a new thing. However fortunately your statement is not valid anymore :)

Why would you make a website without any idea + you are not even a developer?

Yeah i agree about pvp games but if they want a unique dice games i think i will suggest to make 3d dice game with the real dice. i think it will be unique because they are many dice gambling site but you can only see numbers. so i think this is a unique dice game if you make it...

I would be interested in a game that has a small skill element, it would be very hard to implement and still keep it provably fair + profitable for the house. Starting with a single game can be the best way to go, especially if you dont have a big budget and if your dev team is inexperienced (or new). As for how much capital you need, i would say not that much actually. Especially if you plan to do games with low minimum bets. A few BTC would suffice actually. To start off, even something like 5 would be plenty.

It would not be unique, still a dice site. However each roll would take a lot of time.

Yeah that is very odd right.
Also why would you even build something which you don't created/invented in the first place.