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Title: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: supernatural on December 30, 2012, 07:13:45 PM
if i have paypal i can receive bitcoin on it ?


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: grantbdev on December 30, 2012, 07:18:14 PM
No.

And most Bitcoin people don't like paypal and won't use it for anything Bitcoin related.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: supernatural on December 30, 2012, 07:22:26 PM
damn , i heard bitcoin is really fast service.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: WorldOfBitcoin on December 30, 2012, 07:28:08 PM
Paypal steals peoples money;

bitinstant.com

best way to get bitcoin fast


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: supernatural on December 30, 2012, 07:33:16 PM
i`ll create an account now :)  thank you guys .


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: TheButterZone on December 30, 2012, 09:11:44 PM
No.

And most Bitcoin people don't like paypal and won't use it for anything Bitcoin related.

Almost everyone will pay for BTC with PayPal, few will sell BTC for PayPal, unless they think they can get their money out before it's chargebacked up to 180 days later.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: DK91lbc on December 31, 2012, 05:08:40 AM
I have a questions. Is it better to have a bitcoin account or a paypal account? Or both?


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: felipelalli on December 31, 2012, 05:36:47 AM
both, why not? It's free.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: payb.tc on December 31, 2012, 05:43:46 AM
both, why not? It's free.

paypal is *not* free, especially if you count having your assets frozen as a cost.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: felipelalli on December 31, 2012, 06:34:43 AM
E&G, it's free to open the account!! ;D


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: drakahn on December 31, 2012, 06:35:42 AM
paypal : free to take your money


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: felipelalli on December 31, 2012, 06:40:54 AM
Paypal and Bitcoin are different in many aspects, I think it is not comparable. But Paypal is useful yet, sometimes. Even to buy Bitcoins and make some arbitrages. (in my case, for example, that's hard to me to buy MtGox directly).


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: jbhands21 on December 31, 2012, 07:37:59 AM
paypall all dayyyyy


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: DK91lbc on December 31, 2012, 05:59:01 PM
Ok that is fairly easy to understand. My next and last question is, What is or what would be the conversion rate from $ to BTC or vice versa? Or am I going to far off topic.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: DannyHamilton on December 31, 2012, 06:20:06 PM
Ok that is fairly easy to understand. My next and last question is, What is or what would be the conversion rate from $ to BTC or vice versa? Or am I going to far off topic.
It changes constantly since it is traded on an open market.  You can see the current exchange rate from several online exchanges in various currencies here:

http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: D_Thomas on December 31, 2012, 06:35:38 PM
Avoid PayPal like the plague. They rob your money. My son right now has over $50K USD stolen by PayPal that they say they are going to keep frozen for 6 months "in case he has any chargebacks." F*&*n thieves rob your money and they invest it earming interest while they screw sellers.

This video is 100% true. I only still use them for sales on eBay because that is what so many people use to pay there. Otherwise I would not touch PayPal with a 10 foot pole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2fk56ktVE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2fk56ktVE)

Paypal steals peoples money;

bitinstant.com

best way to get bitcoin fast


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: DK91lbc on December 31, 2012, 06:51:40 PM

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It changes constantly since it is traded on an open market.  You can see the current exchange rate from several online exchanges in various currencies here:

http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/


Beautiful that is what I was looking for Thanks.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: dieahn on January 05, 2013, 12:29:00 AM
Avoid PayPal like the plague. They rob your money. My son right now has over $50K USD stolen by PayPal that they say they are going to keep frozen for 6 months "in case he has any chargebacks." F*&*n thieves rob your money and they invest it earming interest while they screw sellers.

This video is 100% true. I only still use them for sales on eBay because that is what so many people use to pay there. Otherwise I would not touch PayPal with a 10 foot pole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2fk56ktVE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2fk56ktVE)

Paypal steals peoples money;

bitinstant.com

best way to get bitcoin fast

Paypal is a thief. They just wants to fill their pocket. My wife got scam, they didn't do anything but took her money away & shut down her paypal account. They even charged her the dispute fee which they actually didnt do anything.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: 1uk3 on January 05, 2013, 03:49:19 AM
I'm seeing a lot of horror stories from paypal but it seems like mostly people selling. They seem to be pretty buyer oriented when it comes to chargebacks etc, is my assumption right?


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: JoelKatz on January 05, 2013, 03:50:47 AM
I'm seeing a lot of horror stories from paypal but it seems like mostly people selling. They seem to be pretty buyer oriented when it comes to chargebacks etc, is my assumption right?
It's essentially the same thing. If the seller has a significant risk of being ripped off by the payment processor, they'll have no choice but to pass that cost on to the buyer. That why if you try to buy Bitcoins and pay with PayPal, you'll wind up paying more.

It leads to a death spiral. Say Bitcoins are selling for $10 each. But due to the additional risk, I'll have to charge $12 if you're going to pay with PayPal. Well, scammers don't care if they have to pay extra because they aren't actually going to pay anything. But this will cause some legitimate users to go to in person or major exchanges instead. So my ratio of scammers to legitimate users will go up. Soon I find that $12 isn't enough and I have to charge $14. Scammers still don't care, so I don't get rid of any scammers. But now, even fewer legitimate users are interested in using PayPal, so the price again has to go up.



Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: John (John K.) on January 05, 2013, 03:51:54 AM
I'm seeing a lot of horror stories from paypal but it seems like mostly people selling. They seem to be pretty buyer oriented when it comes to chargebacks etc, is my assumption right?
It's easy to end up losing either way if the opponent is determined to scam you, no matter if you're buying or selling. Scammy sellers could set up anonymous cards from Russia and withdraw once the transaction is done, leaving the buyer cold. Scammy buyers could reverse charges easily, as we all know.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: Jakers on January 05, 2013, 04:01:41 AM
The benefits of BTC far outweigh those of Paypal. With BTC's, you don't have to worry about chargebacks and anything like that. Paypal, you get charged back frequently when you're dealing with the blackmarket and forums that revolve around trading. Paypal charges fees as well, and there is microscopic fee's for BTC users. The only thing that I'd say PP has over BTC is security (I've heard of wallets getting hacked, and people losing their BTC's) and stability, and wider variety of usage. I'd say if BTC were to be accepted in a wider variety of places, the price would flatten out and become a lot more stable.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: Mae on January 18, 2013, 04:29:28 AM
I don't recommend to mix bit coins with paypal. You can also get a chargeback very easily


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: solex on January 18, 2013, 10:36:51 AM
I'm seeing a lot of horror stories from paypal but it seems like mostly people selling. They seem to be pretty buyer oriented when it comes to chargebacks etc, is my assumption right?

In any market it is the buyer that ultimately pays. When sellers get screwed by paypal then they add a premium to their prices to cover this "overhead" of doing business. Some more than others, but it averages out to a percentage. So all buyers pay this percentage more to have "intermediaries" like paypal in the loop,

I will be nice to see paypal join the typewriter on the scrapheap of history.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: UncleBobs on January 18, 2013, 10:41:00 AM
Compare the content at paypalsucks.com with bitcoinsucks.com - which sucks more?  :D


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: itai3856 on January 29, 2013, 01:15:53 PM
you can exchange paypal for bitcoin with people, and in my opinion each one have his false and pros


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: RodeoX on January 29, 2013, 01:25:33 PM
Since I have switched to bitcoin I have not used Paypal. IMO, it can't touch bitcoin.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: DannyHamilton on January 29, 2013, 01:27:21 PM
you can exchange paypal for bitcoin with people . . .
This is a terrible idea.  Do not try this.


Title: Re: paypal vs bitcoin
Post by: AndrewJ on January 29, 2013, 09:25:11 PM
Avoid PayPal like the plague. They rob your money. My son right now has over $50K USD stolen by PayPal that they say they are going to keep frozen for 6 months "in case he has any chargebacks." F*&*n thieves rob your money and they invest it earming interest while they screw sellers.
$50K ?? Do you think you will get your money back ever?