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https://network23.org/dogecoin/2016/01/24/part-3-a-summary-on-why-peter-todd-is-probably-satoshi/ (https://network23.org/dogecoin/2016/01/24/part-3-a-summary-on-why-peter-todd-is-probably-satoshi/)

Two questions:
1. Why did Satoshi invite one or more people to be friends on the P2P Foundation website just 1 day after the Newsweek article came out in March 2014?
2. Why did one of those people ID Peter Todd as Satoshi on January 15, 2016?

Edit - See the last 3 pics of the article linked by OP.

Doubt it.His view on block size debate is pretty different than Satoshi's

Fair enough I guess.  I have been updating it as necessary, especially w/ regards to a potential lead on Satoshi's hacker (or possibly Satoshi himself - who knows).

your own fevered imagination, you mean.

on this subject; the topic is boring. It doesn't matter who Bitcoin's creator is... the design of the system was intended to eliminate third party trust; give it some respect by respecting it's creator's desire for privacy.

Even though I have yet to read the previous pages/parts, I believe it is safe to say that, I /we find this chart far more disrespectful than anything that may have been previously said.

https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=24hrs
http://img.techpowerup.org/160127/btc-fiat.jpg

Bitcoin is not free from third party intervention, decentralized, anonymous ect..

That said, those who have sabatoged the crypto movement must be made known and held to account.

Agree on the latter...actually I thought I was showing respect for PTs privacy.

On the former,  PT's 'kick the can' concern
https://www.coingecko.com/buzz/bitcoin-leaders-speak-up-block-size
Seems to be at odds with satoshis suggestion to hard code
Bumps in block size after height X, and PT just generally appears
more concerned (perhaps unduly) about centralization threats whereas someone
like Gavin has more closely echoed Satoshi's optimism in this area.

Not saying PT 'wrong' necessarily, but just doesn't seem to be
Satoshi.

Welcome to Felt's lair.

You find determining Satoshi's hacker boring?  Why were you sharing part2 on bitcoin-wizards IRC the other day (Jan 22) and calling it "entertaining" or something?  Why do you want to cover up for Satoshi's hacker?  

I think all of his public profiles may have been compromised. After the satoshi@gmx.com email hack, I no longer trust anything. The only way I would trust satoshi is satoshi, is if he moved his legendary coin stack with a signature, but even that could have been hacked somehow.
I think at some point it will just be impossible to tell if satoshi is satoshi. Actually we may be at that point already.

Very possible.  That said, I added some new links to the Section 5 at the bottom a few hours ago (around the last three pictures). 

Here we go again :) I doubt we'll ever figure out the answer to this question.

Not quick, but simple.

Step 1.  Eliminate everyone who is not Satoshi. 

Step 2.  The person/person left is/are Satoshi.

I'll start:

Not Sylvester Stallone
 
Not any of my nieces or nephews (total 8 people).

Not Hashfastdoc

Not Mark Karpeles

Not John Riggins

Not Sarah Palin

That's 13 people eliminated.

If everyone on Facebook eliminated 13 unique people, we'd know who Satoshi is.

Did some more kicking of the tires on the model train issue.

Look who started this sub-reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ogrr/
He owns this domain too: https://who.is/domain-history/ogrr.com
 
Kraken was down yesterday (interesting timing).  Didn't they just acquire two Canadian exchanges? Oh, a CloudFlare issue you  say, see here: http://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-acquires-cryptoseal/  AND here: http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/14/cryptoseal-offers-vpn-as-a-service-for-all-that-secure-data-you-risk-when-using-the-coffee-house-wi-fi/ (recognize the name from Part 3?).  
 
Here's a thread about ogrr.com: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35541;sa=showPosts;start=0 (and: https://twitter.com/colindean/status/251124303758766081)
 
And, guess what OGRR stands for? O-gauge railroading.  Here's a reference to the OGRR.com here: http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/p/238617/2662366.aspx#2662366.  In that thread, you'll find another user  referencing the #63 (Leviathan) making a trip to Toronto and also some other cryptic talk all over that forum, especially by a guy w/ the name JD - kinda like the JD referenced in Part 3, except here his name is JOHNNY DEGGESTY.  He even started talking about bitcoin after the Newsweek article came out.  He seems wise. http://cs.trains.com/members/deggesty/default.aspx
 
See also (just for kicks):
http://cs.trains.com/ctt/f/95/p/103655/1206441.aspx
http://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/
 
In searching for train forums, i found this one random site that goes by the handle "BTC" - http://www.beyondthecrater.com
 
Its about a civil war battle between the rebels and the union (There is at least one post about a rebel alliance on Bitcointalk).  Note the name of the home page - The Siege of Petersburg Online.  
 
The site is owned by a guy named Brett Schulte - https://domain-records-lookup.com/whois/beyondthecrater.com
 
http://www.brettschulte.net (Not sure if same guy: https://twitter.com/brettschulte) --> http://www.aboutus.com/BrettSchulte.net --> BraveNet.com -->
 
http://www.acceptingbitcoin.bravesites.com/
http://pumpdog8.bravejournal.com/entry/148290
https://twitter.com/BraveTheWorld --> possible connection to Fraser Institute?  Not sure but the name and underly ideology is the similar to FreeTheWorld.com - a Fraser-owned site.  BraveTheWorld and Fraser both have locations in Toronto, where Satoshi (PT) lives.

Have no idea where this trail goes. There are many parallels to Atlas Shrugged, which is cool - its one my of my all-time favorites.
 

Not Leroy Fodor. That's 14. If everybody on the planet eliminated 1 unique person, the one left...

I'll go further and eliminate everybody born after January 1, 2000. That narrows it down considerably. Further, all women and dark-complected males.

https://i.imgur.com/77CFIUH.jpg

Well, at least its mod is still active: https://www.reddit.com/user/jespow

I think it's someone older than Peter Todd because Satoshi used two spaces after a full stop as typists were trained to do before computers made typewriters obsolete. Peter Todd's too young to have had that training. Compare the single space used after a full stop in this post by Peter Todd to the two spaces after the full stop in the post below it made by Satoshi.

Theymos was ~18 (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dkqcx/i_am_theymos_ama/) when he he created the first block explorer, Peter Todd was 16  (https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/422sf8/part2_in_2001_peter_todd_and_hal_finney_were/cz7aroh)when he was discussing p2p payments with Hal Finny. I'm starting to believe that bitcoin was created by a gang of teenagers and just got out of hand in the process.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/25/article-2164185-06E295B3000005DC-794_634x420.jpg
"Okay, hear me out! Here's the plan to take control of the world's money supply from them white banker dudes. First, we create this Japanese dude..."

Japanese are stereotypically portrayed as intelligent. Plus it's a good scapegoat if someone comes banging on your door asking you if you're the creator of bitcoin and owner of millions of dollars worth of it.

I'm going with Nick Szabo even though he denied.

I'm going with Marshall Long because of his fat stinkin' ass size he's yet to deny that he's Satoshi Nakamoto and some some other dude.

Pretty sure its not Mickey Mouse, Lil Wayne, or Snookie.

 

This would be the best backstory for a rapper I've ever heard.
On a side note, Gleb, you crack me the hell up.

Edit: Not Scott Grimes, Not Patricia Sanders

Not Bill Murray, William S. Burroughs, or Jared the Subway guy.

Why are you denying the obvious facts in front of your faces?

Satoshi Nakamoto is Nick Szabo.

Think about it, why would "Satoshi" reference Hal Finney and Wei Dai but not the main key player out of the three people Hal Nick and Wei?

Why would he not reference arguably the most important out of those three people?

It doesn't take Hercule Poirot to see that Satoshi is Nick Szabo.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe its this guy - he seems to claim to be Satoshi:

https://twitter.com/Eastfist

 ::)    ;D 

He definitely cannot be that at all. Satoshi is an old Japanese or Chinese man that enjoys his privacy. Respect his wishes please.

This person claims to have authored the Bitcoin whitepaper in their Linkedin profile - also worked for "Leviathan Security Group" :


https://www.linkedin.com/in/intoverflow
http://imgur.com/a/93xOp

http://stackexchange.com/users/167136/tim-carstens
http://imgur.com/4ny53Nh

https://web.math.princeton.edu/~khwilson/toorcamp/group_intro.pdf (PPT titled Introduction to Groups and Elliptic Curves - co-Authored w/ a K Wilson of Princeton).

https://plus.google.com/113459451476066214383/posts

http://www.edsconf.com/2013-archive/
http://imgur.com/pDPf13v

When I think about who could be Satoshi I think it could be:

-person under 35
-super talented developer
-calm cool and collected
-still in public view around bitcoin but not claiming they are Satoshi
-not asian (name Satoshi used as distraction, makes people look for someone asian)

All these considered it could be Peter Todd. He fits all of the above. 

Whoever it is they have their reasons for remaining anon.

Yep.  I do think its person younger than previously thought - like PT.  Seems like it is the youngins' that often disrupt things in the tech world. The person linked to above, Tim, also fits the bill.

The following, with apologies to your noble efferts: (at first, I thought this guy was Atlas)

https://intoverflow.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/recent-activities/
Jives with this: http://web.archive.org/web/20081225062810/http://intoverflow.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/recent-activities/


http://web.archive.org/web/20081224113659/http://intoverflow.wordpress.com/about/

Publicly claiming to have authored the Bitcoin Whitepaper on your Linkedin Account has to be akin to claim you're Satoshi Nakamoto or a meaningful (and possibly rogue) part of a team of folks who used "Satoshi Nakamoto" as a collective pseudonym. After the Craig Wright thing, it seems odd that this would just be floating out there.  Can't make up my mind on this one.

The only logical conclusion I can come up with is that Tim has gone Full Wright. Basically, he just ended his career after putting in so many years of study.

Possibly.  Not sure how long that linkedin page has existed with the authorship claim for the bitcoin whitepaper.

Okay, I've figured it out. Tim has a strong humor side, like myself, putting up that he published SN's wp for humor purposes only, for anybody can see from his history on the Net that he's not capable of producing such work, let alone had the time while still attending school, with most his whereabouts then and now known.

Perhaps Satoshi went dark for the same reason Mohamed was buried in an unmarked grave. It is not the man that is important, it's the message.

I think satoshi went dark because he knew the consequences of developing something that would basically change the status quo in a awy that has never been challenged before. I mean we have seen developers getting their lives threatened, imagine being the actual creator that spawned the whole thing. It was the perfect scenario for him to put that seed out there and leave forever. The moment he comes back he will be an instant target for a lot of people (well he is now, but imagine if he made his persona public... it would be a mistake).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_the_Unknowns#Identification_of_the_Unknown

It likely matters very little who Satoshi, S.A.W., is. However, being human, it is impossible not be inquisitive. Humans come hardwired to wonder where we came from and why we're here.  Likewise, its hard to not ask: who is Satoshi, what makes him/her/other/the team tick? None of the people who I think are Satoshi candidates are ordinary, they all seem wildly intelligent.

One thing I've noticed in my hunt is that Satoshi was very well read (this is a feather in the hat of those that think Szabo is Satoshi). There are a lot of publications about e-cash-like software from 2007 and 2008. For example, this paper - a working paper from the group that ultimately founded Ripple - is clearly on the cusp of Bitcoin (just a few months pre-bitcoin). http://opencoin.org/library/opencoin_chaum_report.pdf/view.   But it doesn't go far enough - it doesn't throw P-o-W into the mix.  You can see the mailing list going back to 2007 here: https://sourceforge.net/p/opencoin/mailman/opencoin-devel/. 

Satoshi spotted the PoW gap and borrowed a tool from Dr. Back to fill it.

Other interesting electronic currency papers reminiscent of Bitcoin from the time period in which Satoshi was writing:

www.cs.fiu.edu/~carbunar/upayments_techrep.pdf
https://cs.gmu.edu/~astavrou/research/Par_PET_2008.pdf
www-users.cs.umn.edu/~vkher/papers/2007_vkher_kyd.pdf
www.fang.ece.ufl.edu/mypaper/twc08lai.pdf
www.cse.nd.edu/~mblanton/papers/acns08.pdf
https://eprint.iacr.org/2007/148.pdf
digitalpiglet.org/research/sion2007cec.pdf

It would have been really fun to be writing in this field in 2007 to 2008. Satoshi must have read some of these.

One of the more interesting non-digital currency papers from the time period involves decentralization, might be instructive: http://localdemocracy.net/2008/01/01/authority-over-forests-negotiating-democratic-decentralization-in-senegal/

I would consider this:

https://rft.osrfoundation.org/news.html (see "Method of Farfield 3D Scanning")

"[V]enturing into more complex ideas" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479).  

Think about the 3D Scanning project vis-a-vis DARPA's objectives as well as the 21.co - machine to machine transactions, controls, etc. I always liked the Szabo = Satoshi theory because I see Szabo as working on complex ideas geared to human survival, which involves space colonization (you'd need a new money, economy, nanotech, etc. for all that to work). Bitcoin is a great idea for a money to be used in colonies on Mars for example. Last year's musing on this issue, sorta: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159614.msg12220026#msg12220026

EDIT - More

Like PT, Tim is also interested in time stamping:

https://github.com/tcarstens/verlang
fileadmin.cs.lth.se/cs/Personal/Amr_Ergawy/dist-algos-papers/4.pdf
http://christophermeiklejohn.com/coq/erlang/2013/11/04/verified-vector-clocks-an-experience-report-part-1.html
http://arxiv.org/abs/1406.4291 (paper cites his work)
Tim pumped about some citations to his work: https://twitter.com/intoverflow/status/614396035406782464