Bitcoin Forum
May 30, 2024, 06:06:02 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Part 3 – Much more on why clues suggest Peter Todd is probably Satoshi  (Read 2759 times)
Mr Felt (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 493
Merit: 518



View Profile
January 25, 2016, 10:11:06 PM
 #1

https://network23.org/dogecoin/2016/01/24/part-3-a-summary-on-why-peter-todd-is-probably-satoshi/
Mr Felt (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 493
Merit: 518



View Profile
January 26, 2016, 09:16:23 AM
 #2


Two questions:
1. Why did Satoshi invite one or more people to be friends on the P2P Foundation website just 1 day after the Newsweek article came out in March 2014?
2. Why did one of those people ID Peter Todd as Satoshi on January 15, 2016?

Edit - See the last 3 pics of the article linked by OP.
jonald_fyookball
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1302
Merit: 1004


Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political


View Profile
January 27, 2016, 06:48:15 AM
 #3

Doubt it.His view on block size debate is pretty different than Satoshi's

Mr Felt (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 493
Merit: 518



View Profile
January 27, 2016, 07:41:03 AM
 #4

Doubt it.His view on block size debate is pretty different than Satoshi's

Fair enough I guess.  I have been updating it as necessary, especially w/ regards to a potential lead on Satoshi's hacker (or possibly Satoshi himself - who knows).
gmaxwell
Staff
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 4200
Merit: 8436



View Profile WWW
January 27, 2016, 12:24:26 PM
 #5

Doubt it.His view on block size debate is pretty different than
your own fevered imagination, you mean.

on this subject; the topic is boring. It doesn't matter who Bitcoin's creator is... the design of the system was intended to eliminate third party trust; give it some respect by respecting it's creator's desire for privacy.
Hippie Tech
aka Amenstop
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1624
Merit: 1001


All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.


View Profile WWW
January 27, 2016, 01:00:18 PM
 #6

Doubt it.His view on block size debate is pretty different than
your own fevered imagination, you mean.

on this subject; the topic is boring. It doesn't matter who Bitcoin's creator is... the design of the system was intended to eliminate third party trust; give it some respect by respecting it's creator's desire for privacy.

Even though I have yet to read the previous pages/parts, I believe it is safe to say that, I /we find this chart far more disrespectful than anything that may have been previously said.

https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=24hrs


Bitcoin is not free from third party intervention, decentralized, anonymous ect..

That said, those who have sabatoged the crypto movement must be made known and held to account.

jonald_fyookball
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1302
Merit: 1004


Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political


View Profile
January 27, 2016, 01:07:02 PM
Last edit: January 27, 2016, 01:21:25 PM by jonald_fyookball
 #7

Doubt it.His view on block size debate is pretty different than
your own fevered imagination, you mean.

on this subject; the topic is boring. It doesn't matter who Bitcoin's creator is... the design of the system was intended to eliminate third party trust; give it some respect by respecting it's creator's desire for privacy.

Agree on the latter...actually I thought I was showing respect for PTs privacy.

On the former,  PT's 'kick the can' concern
https://www.coingecko.com/buzz/bitcoin-leaders-speak-up-block-size
Seems to be at odds with satoshis suggestion to hard code
Bumps in block size after height X, and PT just generally appears
more concerned (perhaps unduly) about centralization threats whereas someone
like Gavin has more closely echoed Satoshi's optimism in this area.

Not saying PT 'wrong' necessarily, but just doesn't seem to be
Satoshi.

Mr Felt (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 493
Merit: 518



View Profile
January 27, 2016, 01:55:37 PM
Last edit: January 27, 2016, 02:08:24 PM by Mr Felt
 #8

Doubt it.His view on block size debate is pretty different than
your own fevered imagination, you mean.

on this subject; the topic is boring. It doesn't matter who Bitcoin's creator is... the design of the system was intended to eliminate third party trust; give it some respect by respecting it's creator's desire for privacy.

Welcome to Felt's lair.

You find determining Satoshi's hacker boring?  Why were you sharing part2 on bitcoin-wizards IRC the other day (Jan 22) and calling it "entertaining" or something?  Why do you want to cover up for Satoshi's hacker?  
Quote
gmaxwell
hehe, trolls on reddit are sometimes entertaining:
2:32 am
"Personally I like the idea of hashcash if, and only if, it's structured like a real currency as opposed to simply proof of work. In the real world you pay for resources used. In many cases this should also apply to P2P and other computer systems.
2:32 am
Of course getting hashcash workable as a real currency is extremely difficult. I've thought of a scheme that would work (coins are signed by owner and can only be changed (signed to a different owner) by owner) except you need a decentralized "central" database of all the hashcash that's been minted. Unworkable. !@#$ spend-twice problem. Sad" ... Peter Todd in 2001, on a mailing list with Hal and
2:33 am
Adam Back
2:33 am
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/bluesky/2001...
2:35 am
thejaytiesto
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1358
Merit: 1014


View Profile
January 27, 2016, 02:35:36 PM
 #9


Two questions:
1. Why did Satoshi invite one or more people to be friends on the P2P Foundation website just 1 day after the Newsweek article came out in March 2014?
2. Why did one of those people ID Peter Todd as Satoshi on January 15, 2016?

Edit - See the last 3 pics of the article linked by OP.

I think all of his public profiles may have been compromised. After the satoshi@gmx.com email hack, I no longer trust anything. The only way I would trust satoshi is satoshi, is if he moved his legendary coin stack with a signature, but even that could have been hacked somehow.
I think at some point it will just be impossible to tell if satoshi is satoshi. Actually we may be at that point already.
Mr Felt (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 493
Merit: 518



View Profile
January 27, 2016, 03:03:48 PM
 #10


Two questions:
1. Why did Satoshi invite one or more people to be friends on the P2P Foundation website just 1 day after the Newsweek article came out in March 2014?
2. Why did one of those people ID Peter Todd as Satoshi on January 15, 2016?

Edit - See the last 3 pics of the article linked by OP.

I think all of his public profiles may have been compromised. After the satoshi@gmx.com email hack, I no longer trust anything. The only way I would trust satoshi is satoshi, is if he moved his legendary coin stack with a signature, but even that could have been hacked somehow.
I think at some point it will just be impossible to tell if satoshi is satoshi. Actually we may be at that point already.

Very possible.  That said, I added some new links to the Section 5 at the bottom a few hours ago (around the last three pictures). 
allthingsluxury
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1540
Merit: 1029



View Profile WWW
January 27, 2016, 03:05:32 PM
 #11

Here we go again Smiley I doubt we'll ever figure out the answer to this question.

TooDumbForBitcoin
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1638
Merit: 1001



View Profile
January 27, 2016, 07:30:24 PM
 #12

Here we go again Smiley I doubt we'll ever figure out the answer to this question.

Not quick, but simple.

Step 1.  Eliminate everyone who is not Satoshi. 

Step 2.  The person/person left is/are Satoshi.

I'll start:

Not Sylvester Stallone
 
Not any of my nieces or nephews (total 8 people).

Not Hashfastdoc

Not Mark Karpeles

Not John Riggins

Not Sarah Palin

That's 13 people eliminated.

If everyone on Facebook eliminated 13 unique people, we'd know who Satoshi is.




▄▄                                  ▄▄
 ███▄                            ▄███
  ██████                      ██████
   ███████                  ███████
    ███████                ███████
     ███████              ███████
      ███████            ███████
       ███████▄▄      ▄▄███████
        ██████████████████████
         ████████████████████
          ██████████████████
           ████████████████
            ██████████████
             ███████████
              █████████
               ███████
                █████
                 ██
                  █
veil|     PRIVACY    
     WITHOUT COMPROMISE.      
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂
|   NO ICO. NO PREMINE. 
   X16RT GPU Mining. Fair distribution.  
|      The first Zerocoin-based Cryptocurrency      
   WITH ALWAYS-ON PRIVACY.  
|



                   ▄▄████
              ▄▄████████▌
         ▄▄█████████▀███
    ▄▄██████████▀▀ ▄███▌
▄████████████▀▀  ▄█████
▀▀▀███████▀   ▄███████▌
      ██    ▄█████████
       █  ▄██████████▌
       █  ███████████
       █ ██▀ ▀██████▌
       ██▀     ▀████
                 ▀█▌




   ▄███████
   ████████
   ███▀
   ███
██████████
██████████
   ███
   ███
   ███
   ███
   ███
   ███




     ▄▄█▀▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▀▀█▄▄
   ▐██▄▄██████████████▄▄██▌
   ████████████████████████
  ▐████████████████████████▌
  ███████▀▀▀██████▀▀▀███████
 ▐██████     ████     ██████▌
 ███████     ████     ███████
▐████████▄▄▄██████▄▄▄████████▌
▐████████████████████████████▌
 █████▄▄▀▀▀▀██████▀▀▀▀▄▄█████
  ▀▀██████          ██████▀▀
      ▀▀▀            ▀▀▀
Mr Felt (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 493
Merit: 518



View Profile
January 27, 2016, 11:50:02 PM
 #13

Did some more kicking of the tires on the model train issue.

Look who started this sub-reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ogrr/
He owns this domain too: https://who.is/domain-history/ogrr.com
 
Kraken was down yesterday (interesting timing).  Didn't they just acquire two Canadian exchanges? Oh, a CloudFlare issue you  say, see here: http://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-acquires-cryptoseal/  AND here: http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/14/cryptoseal-offers-vpn-as-a-service-for-all-that-secure-data-you-risk-when-using-the-coffee-house-wi-fi/ (recognize the name from Part 3?).  
 
Here's a thread about ogrr.com: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35541;sa=showPosts;start=0 (and: https://twitter.com/colindean/status/251124303758766081)
 
And, guess what OGRR stands for? O-gauge railroading.  Here's a reference to the OGRR.com here: http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/p/238617/2662366.aspx#2662366.  In that thread, you'll find another user  referencing the #63 (Leviathan) making a trip to Toronto and also some other cryptic talk all over that forum, especially by a guy w/ the name JD - kinda like the JD referenced in Part 3, except here his name is JOHNNY DEGGESTY.  He even started talking about bitcoin after the Newsweek article came out.  He seems wise. http://cs.trains.com/members/deggesty/default.aspx
 
See also (just for kicks):
http://cs.trains.com/ctt/f/95/p/103655/1206441.aspx
http://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/
 
In searching for train forums, i found this one random site that goes by the handle "BTC" - http://www.beyondthecrater.com
 
Its about a civil war battle between the rebels and the union (There is at least one post about a rebel alliance on Bitcointalk).  Note the name of the home page - The Siege of Petersburg Online.  
 
The site is owned by a guy named Brett Schulte - https://domain-records-lookup.com/whois/beyondthecrater.com
 
http://www.brettschulte.net (Not sure if same guy: https://twitter.com/brettschulte) --> http://www.aboutus.com/BrettSchulte.net --> BraveNet.com -->
 
http://www.acceptingbitcoin.bravesites.com/
http://pumpdog8.bravejournal.com/entry/148290
https://twitter.com/BraveTheWorld --> possible connection to Fraser Institute?  Not sure but the name and underly ideology is the similar to FreeTheWorld.com - a Fraser-owned site.  BraveTheWorld and Fraser both have locations in Toronto, where Satoshi (PT) lives.

Have no idea where this trail goes. There are many parallels to Atlas Shrugged, which is cool - its one my of my all-time favorites.
 
Gleb Gamow
In memoriam
VIP
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1428
Merit: 1145



View Profile
January 28, 2016, 12:00:09 AM
 #14

Here we go again Smiley I doubt we'll ever figure out the answer to this question.

Not quick, but simple.

Step 1.  Eliminate everyone who is not Satoshi. 

Step 2.  The person/person left is/are Satoshi.

I'll start:

Not Sylvester Stallone
 
Not any of my nieces or nephews (total 8 people).

Not Hashfastdoc

Not Mark Karpeles

Not John Riggins

Not Sarah Palin

That's 13 people eliminated.

If everyone on Facebook eliminated 13 unique people, we'd know who Satoshi is.



Not Leroy Fodor. That's 14. If everybody on the planet eliminated 1 unique person, the one left...

I'll go further and eliminate everybody born after January 1, 2000. That narrows it down considerably. Further, all women and dark-complected males.
Gleb Gamow
In memoriam
VIP
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1428
Merit: 1145



View Profile
January 28, 2016, 12:05:02 AM
 #15

Quote
Look who started this sub-reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ogrr/



Well, at least its mod is still active: https://www.reddit.com/user/jespow
sniveling
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 719
Merit: 250


View Profile
January 28, 2016, 12:33:43 AM
 #16

I don't think Peter Todd is Satoshi. But in terms of talent, he's a developer with only a handful of peers.

I think it's someone older than Peter Todd because Satoshi used two spaces after a full stop as typists were trained to do before computers made typewriters obsolete. Peter Todd's too young to have had that training. Compare the single space used after a full stop in this post by Peter Todd to the two spaces after the full stop in the post below it made by Satoshi.

https://gmplib.org/

"Since version 6, GMP is distributed under the dual licenses, GNU LGPL v3 and GNU GPL v2. These licenses make the library free to use, share, and improve, and allow you to pass on the result."

What version of GMP does it need?


Quote
It would have been nice to get this attention in any other context.  WikiLeaks has kicked the hornet's nest, and the swarm is headed towards us.
worhiper_-_
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 700
Merit: 500


View Profile
January 28, 2016, 12:50:17 AM
 #17

Theymos was ~18 when he he created the first block explorer, Peter Todd was 16 when he was discussing p2p payments with Hal Finny. I'm starting to believe that bitcoin was created by a gang of teenagers and just got out of hand in the process.
Gleb Gamow
In memoriam
VIP
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1428
Merit: 1145



View Profile
January 28, 2016, 01:50:30 AM
 #18

Theymos was ~18 when he he created the first block explorer, Peter Todd was 16 when he was discussing p2p payments with Hal Finny. I'm starting to believe that bitcoin was created by a gang of teenagers and just got out of hand in the process.


"Okay, hear me out! Here's the plan to take control of the world's money supply from them white banker dudes. First, we create this Japanese dude..."
worhiper_-_
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 700
Merit: 500


View Profile
January 28, 2016, 02:02:52 AM
 #19

Theymos was ~18 when he he created the first block explorer, Peter Todd was 16 when he was discussing p2p payments with Hal Finny. I'm starting to believe that bitcoin was created by a gang of teenagers and just got out of hand in the process.


"Okay, hear me out! Here's the plan to take control of the world's money supply from them white banker dudes. First, we create this Japanese dude..."

Japanese are stereotypically portrayed as intelligent. Plus it's a good scapegoat if someone comes banging on your door asking you if you're the creator of bitcoin and owner of millions of dollars worth of it.
pimpjuice
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 164
Merit: 100


View Profile
January 28, 2016, 02:32:54 AM
 #20

I'm going with Nick Szabo even though he denied.
Pages: [1] 2  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!