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Title: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: countryfree on February 10, 2016, 12:30:45 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: socks435 on February 10, 2016, 12:38:42 AM
I think there's no dentist accepting bitcoin as payment, You have a choice to choose you can use bitcoin to convert it into fiat or withdraw to your bank account. If you have bank account you instantly withdrawn your bitcoins into fiat to use it or to pay if for your dental.
If you are already travel there i think you should find a bank or exchange store that accept bitcoin before you go in dentist. I didn't hear that there's a dentist accepting bitcoin but you can mention it to him and maybe he can deal with your bitcoins..


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: chek2fire on February 10, 2016, 12:46:34 AM
Here in greece there is a dentist that accept bitcoin

http://www.papadakis.org/




Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: robelneo on February 10, 2016, 01:35:26 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?
Of course dentist can accept bitcoin provided he knows about bitcoin and he has a wallet for it,if he is not aware of bitcoin and how to use then you have no choice but to just convert it to fiat cash and pay his fee..



Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: commandrix on February 10, 2016, 02:27:35 AM
You could explain what Bitcoin is, I suppose, but don't expect a quick "yes." Sometimes it's enough to just get them thinking about it.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: fuathan on February 10, 2016, 02:30:24 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

I think it won't work. Every doctor, dentist that I've met are greedy people... They won't understand and accept BTC...


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: gentlemand on February 10, 2016, 02:34:58 AM
See if they have a Euro account. Forward Bitpay's details to them. Job jobbed. They might need a bit of reassurance but there's nothing to lose. I think them accepting and holding BTC is going to be a stretch too far at this stage.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: DaddyMonsi on February 10, 2016, 02:54:39 AM
Does dentist that accepts card that can be loaded with Bitcoin counts? because if yes then there's a lot of Dentists in the world who can accept Bitcoin as payment but in card form, funded by Bitcoin.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: iv4n on February 10, 2016, 03:00:39 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Just a bit info about dentists. Belgrade is a bit more south ( around 300 km) and probably have twice chipeaper dentists, maybe even more depends from where. Usually people from EU come here with buses ( if u can believe) and all of them repair their theets here. In Serbia u can pay with euros, dollars..


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: SFR10 on February 10, 2016, 03:57:27 AM
Usually it's going to be dependent on the following:
1. Some of the dentists are old school while others are always at the tip of technologies so chances of them knowing BTCitcoin would be 50-50
2. If the dentists is working in a clinic under supervision of an owner, then there's a clinic manager for sure and they usually know BTCitcoin (base on experience)
3. Total cost be little then yes for sure he will accept (extraction cases / simple restorations / oral prophylaxis) but since you said heavy dental works then chances are very low
4. But again, mostly foreign patients then surely he accepts one way or another some sort of online payment too
The only argument you could have with your dentist is, from the time his done, rest assured the transaction is confirmed (seriously I don't think there's any argument that could change their mind).


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: chennan on February 10, 2016, 04:17:18 AM
I think it would be better for you to save your self the awkwardness and time spent explaining what Bitcoin is and does. Plus it will probably cost a whole lot more fiat to pay with Bitcoin (theoretically) if you go pay with a currency that doesn't have a way to help you with health insurance. I think it would be a noble thing to try, but it will probably just be a headache overall.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Kakmakr on February 10, 2016, 05:43:31 AM
The first thing you should do before you fly there, should be to determine if he would be accepting Bitcoin. No use going there and he does not accept it. I sometimes wish Bitcoin had some chargeback feature, for those times when you go for treatment and the damn tooth break within the same month.

These guys are so busy sometimes and then they do a hack job to get it done. In these instances, I want to force my own refund. ^smile^


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: pinkslink on February 10, 2016, 06:18:18 AM
easiest argument is no tax, i just explained this to a business owner and how they can then trade coins for cash if desired,
they were very interested.

you not only have to argue your point for why they should accept BTC
you also need to show them how they can later use them or cash out
without transaction going through banks

but biggest thing will be that accepting bitcoin is like the new cash in hand (off the books) payment,
he can legally keep it off the books so to speak as no money would be accepted.
so he will not pay any tax on what you pay him,
you then also show he can make more money by selling his bitcoin for over value
on sites such as localbitcoins or paxful


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: raj1 on February 10, 2016, 06:25:40 AM
i dnt accept he would accept bitcoin but lets see if he do so.because if he do so then he would be in your good list :p


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: FlyingSaucer on February 10, 2016, 06:41:32 AM
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: NorrisK on February 10, 2016, 06:57:12 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

I think it won't work. Every doctor, dentist that I've met are greedy people... They won't understand and accept BTC...

That is such a massive generalisation... I don't know where you are from, but here the doctors are more focussed on helping people than ripping them of from there money. Not only because it is next to impossible with our health insurance system to get more than a specified amount, but it is also our culture I guess.

The tax thing is probably your best way to get him to accept bitcoin. You could also try to ask him in advance so he can read up, understand and put the neccesary stuff into place such as wallets.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: DimensionZ on February 10, 2016, 06:58:28 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

I think it won't work. Every doctor, dentist that I've met are greedy people... They won't understand and accept BTC...

Why do you think every medical professional is a greedy person? Medicine is  just a business like any other.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: crazyivan on February 10, 2016, 07:10:46 AM
How exactly do you plan to convince your dentist to accept BTC, unless he s already got required infrastructure?


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: yenxz on February 10, 2016, 07:29:29 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?
wow,i never heard this before,ts easy to tell your dentist to accept bitcoin for payment?i want to try ask some seller or store to accept bitcoin,but i still have no idea o explain with easy understanding.by the way,its cool ;)


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Herbert2020 on February 10, 2016, 07:35:29 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

this is a revolutionary idea, but i think you are going to have a very hard time convincing your dentist to accept bitcoin.
because usually people are hesitant in accepting a new thing and changing their common ways. besides if he does not have any prior knowledge about bitcoin (never heard of it) he might even think you want to scam him!


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Amph on February 10, 2016, 08:25:48 AM
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: rio3233 on February 10, 2016, 08:47:13 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Well, i never meet a dentist who accept bitcoin in my life. maybe in Budapest you will find one, why not you find it on google, maybe you found 1 haha. if the dentist not accepted bitcoin better not convince him.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: 1Referee on February 10, 2016, 08:52:09 AM
Well, it's quite difficult convincing some one that most likely doesn't know anything about Bitcoin and its volatility. I would just explain him what the real benefits are and search for information on where in Hungary it's the best place for him to convert his coins into fiat. Also tell him that if he plays it right, he can probably avoid paying a significant amount of tax over that money. ;)


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: LuckyYOU on February 10, 2016, 09:40:13 AM
Well, it's quite difficult convincing some one that most likely doesn't know anything about Bitcoin and its volatility. I would just explain him what the real benefits are and search for information on where in Hungary it's the best place for him to convert his coins into fiat. Also tell him that if he plays it right, he can probably avoid paying a significant amount of tax over that money. ;)

That indeed would be really useful fact.
I also hope that I can go back to pay a lot more things with BTC.
But the sad thing is that many people do not even know what Bitcoins.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: xuan87 on February 10, 2016, 11:39:59 AM
I kind of doubt you can pay with bitcoin, does the dentist know bitcoin?

and then how can they remember their wallet when they are working, and then the last one is that you need to convert the value from fiat to bitcoin and then send it to the dentist, I think that is not really efficient


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Gloober on February 10, 2016, 11:42:17 AM
I have never paid with bitcoin at my dentist. They don't accept it here at the moment.
That's cool though, that you are able to have the option to pay with bitcoin at your dentist.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: dupeddonk on February 10, 2016, 11:42:57 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Just wait till after hes done cleaning your teeth and tell him sorry but you only have bitcoin, does he want it or not?


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: ConnAlt on February 10, 2016, 11:43:58 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

I think it won't work. Every doctor, dentist that I've met are greedy people... They won't understand and accept BTC...

I'm thinking the same, the most are greedy.
They just want to make money, they do not care about the bitcoin.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: DimensionZ on February 10, 2016, 11:48:54 AM
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: dupeddonk on February 10, 2016, 11:52:33 AM
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: jacktheking on February 10, 2016, 11:58:15 AM
Well this is a good piece of news; and idea. Kindly update us when you reach the place on whether the dentist accept Bitcoin. :).


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: romero121 on February 10, 2016, 12:10:50 PM
I don't think dentist gonna accept bitcoin for treatment. You can just have a try to make the dentist understand how it works. Even if the likes the tech its difficult that they accept suddenly. They may respond, next time will analyse and can try to accept. This time pay with dollars.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: DimensionZ on February 10, 2016, 12:19:29 PM
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Do you think anyone here on this forum includes their Bitcoin profits in their annual tax form? So by your logic everyone here on this forum is guilty of committing tax fraud? Yeah let's all go to prison you are leading the way.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Amph on February 10, 2016, 12:23:19 PM
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Do you think anyone here on this forum includes their Bitcoin profits in their annual tax form? So by your logic everyone here on this forum is guilty of committing tax fraud? Yeah let's all go to prison you are leading the way.

for a dentist is different he is in the register of physicians, you know this right? so his income is pretty much known by the authority he can not really evade easily


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Greenenergy on February 10, 2016, 12:25:24 PM
Given that most of the countries have a social protection, you can't pay in Bitcoin since you wouldn't be able to give your contribution.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Denker on February 10, 2016, 12:28:50 PM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

When I read "heavy dental work" it shakes me!Hope you don't have to suffer too much.
And the idea too pay your dentist with Bitcoin is at least worth a try.Maybe he will accept if he knows about it or you could explain it to him in a quick and easy way.
But ask him before doing the procedure!
Furthermore Budapest is a pretty cool city.Had been there a few times and always enjoyed it.So if you will have a bit of time and you never had been in that city before, do some sightseeing. :)


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: dupeddonk on February 10, 2016, 12:31:03 PM
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Do you think anyone here on this forum includes their Bitcoin profits in their annual tax form? So by your logic everyone here on this forum is guilty of committing tax fraud? Yeah let's all go to prison you are leading the way.

I wont be leading the way because I report all of my income, even the cryprocurrency related income I could easily lie about.

Just because you think youll never get caught doesn't make it ok to lie on your tax return.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: DimensionZ on February 10, 2016, 12:32:59 PM
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Do you think anyone here on this forum includes their Bitcoin profits in their annual tax form? So by your logic everyone here on this forum is guilty of committing tax fraud? Yeah let's all go to prison you are leading the way.

for a dentist is different he is in the register of physicians, you know this right? so his income is pretty much known by the authority he can not really evade easily

Every medical professional is in the register of physicians but do you know that private practices can charge whatever they want and if the OP won't use his health insurance he could be charged whatever amount it's agreed upon and the register pf physicians as you mentioned doesn't know what you do in your private practice.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: DimensionZ on February 10, 2016, 12:37:02 PM
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Do you think anyone here on this forum includes their Bitcoin profits in their annual tax form? So by your logic everyone here on this forum is guilty of committing tax fraud? Yeah let's all go to prison you are leading the way.

I wont be leading the way because I report all of my income, even the cryprocurrency related income I could easily lie about.

Just because you think youll never get caught doesn't make it ok to lie on your tax return.

You can say whatever you like over the Internet but I don't believe you for one second that you actually disclose your crypto operations to the authorities.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Amph on February 10, 2016, 12:38:23 PM
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Do you think anyone here on this forum includes their Bitcoin profits in their annual tax form? So by your logic everyone here on this forum is guilty of committing tax fraud? Yeah let's all go to prison you are leading the way.

for a dentist is different he is in the register of physicians, you know this right? so his income is pretty much known by the authority he can not really evade easily

Every medical professional is in the register of physicians but do you know that private practices can charge whatever they want and if the OP won't use his health insurance he could be charged whatever amount it's agreed upon and the register pf physicians as you mentioned doesn't know what you do in your private practice.

yeah they could but you need to find the right doctor that want to do that, many are ethical and avoid possible future trouble, when they need to declare all their income

since they "play" with large amount of money, it is easy for them to evade and they are more controlled than other


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: numismatist on February 10, 2016, 12:39:41 PM
LOL dentists! Totally sweated out my appointment with one of them.

Enough time to leisure a sweet tooth on tasty nibbles in the meantime.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: countryfree on February 10, 2016, 12:59:39 PM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Just a bit info about dentists. Belgrade is a bit more south ( around 300 km) and probably have twice chipeaper dentists, maybe even more depends from where. Usually people from EU come here with buses ( if u can believe) and all of them repair their theets here. In Serbia u can pay with euros, dollars..

Nice to know, thanks for info. I'll stick to my dentist in Budapest though, all appointments are already made. Besides Budapest is a cool place. I'm happy to travel there. I know they accept cash, cards, bank wires, Forints and Euros, so I'll just try to extend the payments option list to BTC.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Rude Boy on February 10, 2016, 01:09:50 PM
Firstly, your dentist should have some time to listen your words (about bitcoin). And you need some some effort to explain him because. Because, AFAIK they're not aware in new technologies other than medical equipments.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Kprawn on February 10, 2016, 02:18:41 PM
I suffer total Odontophobia, and my balls shrivel up when I enter his rooms. I have had some pretty bad experiences as a kid and to this day, I panic

when I get close to them. How do you talk to a dentist, with a gaping mouth full of tools? gha ng ga ga..  ;D ;D ... Anyone know what the Budapest

regulations are like towards Bitcoin? In some countries you can own bitcoin, but you not allowed to accept it as a currency.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: pinkslink on February 10, 2016, 03:50:31 PM
You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Aceepting Bitcoin is NOT tax fraud as bitcoin is NOT money, the EU courts have already stated this and there is no tax on bitcoin.

If he then spends the bitcoin he is absolutely fine, whichever way you want to try and look at it.

If he sells the bitcoins for cash/fiat via electronic transfer, he should really declare this as income which would be taxable once above his countries threshold, which is of course viewable by gov if done with electronic transfer.

As he can pay himself any amount of bitcoin he pleases in salary as it is NOT money,
it will have absolutely nothing to do with his businesses finances, as it is NOT money.

Accepting bitcoin is the same as accepting buttons for payment, and then paying yourself those buttons.

If he sells his BTC for cash there is also no record of any income, although i doubt this income would be taxable, unless a considerable amount.

in comparison, do you declare any income you receive when you sell your old items ?
i very much doubt it.

selling bitcoin for cash is just the same as selling old toys out the attic.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Daniel91 on February 10, 2016, 03:56:44 PM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Well, good luck with this.
I'm not sure about Hungary but I'm from neighboring country, Croatia, and here we don't have much bitcoin users, much less merchants willing to accept bitcoin as payment option and only one Bitcoin ATM i whole country :)
The issue of Bitcoin payment is a question of supply and demand.
If enough clients demand that they can use bitcoin for payment, merchants will, soon or later, accept it.
If no so much clients request payment with bitcoin, merchants don't have big reason to risk with something new.



Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: ctlaltdefeat on February 10, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?
i never go to dentist,just suffer dental problem. i think that's good,foreign people will know about bitcoin,and people who know about bitcoin will happy,because general people like dentist accept bitcoin.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: blackraven1425 on February 10, 2016, 04:46:21 PM
Firstly, your dentist should have some time to listen your words (about bitcoin). And you need some some effort to explain him because. Because, AFAIK they're not aware in new technologies other than medical equipments.

AFAIK, you'll have your moth stuffed with dentist tools and his hands, so you'll have a hard time explaining him (or her) about it.  ::)


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Preclus on February 10, 2016, 05:45:27 PM
Aceepting Bitcoin is NOT tax fraud as bitcoin is NOT money, the EU courts have already stated this and there is no tax on bitcoin.

When you pay someone in bitcoin for a service priced in Euros, they must declare the Euro-equivalent bitcoin as income on their taxes. Not doing so is tax evasion.

Additionally, if you buy bitcoins for 50 Euro and they go up in value to 60 Euro and you purchase 60 Euro worth of something, you need to pay tax yourself on the 10 Euro difference as a gain.

The only "bitcoin is not taxed" ruling applies applies to exemptions from VAT (tax) in the EU.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: calkob on February 10, 2016, 05:51:31 PM
that is a great idea, and one i have been thinking about recently myself.  in Ireland where i live there are not alot of place that except bitcoin but that is prob because they dont know about it yet.  i was thinking that when i go to local shops i would start asking do they accept bitcoin and if they did support them by spending it there.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: countryfree on February 10, 2016, 11:28:07 PM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Well, good luck with this.
I'm not sure about Hungary but I'm from neighboring country, Croatia, and here we don't have much bitcoin users, much less merchants willing to accept bitcoin as payment option and only one Bitcoin ATM i whole country :)
The issue of Bitcoin payment is a question of supply and demand.
If enough clients demand that they can use bitcoin for payment, merchants will, soon or later, accept it.
If no so much clients request payment with bitcoin, merchants don't have big reason to risk with something new.


Well, I remember reading about a BTC ATM in Budapest, and that was a very long time ago. So I don't know where the country stands by now, but I know they started early, so there's a chance I could be successful.

Besides, it's worth trying. If we want BTC to be successful, it is our duty to convince other people to use it.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 11, 2016, 12:30:28 AM
OP I think it's a splendid idea, but don't be surprised when you get resistance from your dentist and I would only suggest it after the dental work is done.  Dentists have the potential to inflict so much pain (anyone see Marathon Man?) that it's prudent not to haggle with what may seem like strange payment methods before the pain is inflicted.  Alternatively you can fly to my house and I will do the dental work for you.  I'm not trained in dentistry but I will take your bitcoin and there will be no haggling and I will apply the laughing gas generously.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: adibe on February 11, 2016, 12:48:48 AM
So, any update on this topic ? Are your dentist accepted bitcoin and success  convince your dentist ? I'm curious about that, because i think it's rare to find dentist who accept bitcoin lol.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: eon89 on February 11, 2016, 01:57:21 AM
you can change those BTC and not lose much because of fees - no need to necessary pay him with BTC.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: enhu on February 11, 2016, 02:26:58 AM
its easy if the dentist also knew what btc is. its a hell of work convincing someone who knows nothing about btc and he might call a police officer to get you arrested for con attempt while explaining bitcoin to him.  it would be great though if your arrest is going to be on tv news. that will add ppopularity to btc.




Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: heldertb on February 11, 2016, 03:29:09 AM
LOL dentists! Totally sweated out my appointment with one of them.

Enough time to leisure a sweet tooth on tasty nibbles in the meantime.


yeah I am also  try to pay  my dentist with bitcoin. my tooth have also pain now I should go to doctor check my mouth and after try for fees with bitcoin


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: pooya87 on February 11, 2016, 05:57:47 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

you are doing what every bitcoin user should do.

but as argument to convince your dentist to accept bitcoin. it is really hard. besides it is mostly depending on the person that you want to convince and also the country they are living in.

for example if someone is living in a country like mine where nobody has heard about bitcoin and changing it to local currency is a hassle, then it is impossible to convince somebody to accept bitcoin. but if the person is interested in tech stuff and sees the benefits of bitcoin then it becomes easier.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: countryfree on February 12, 2016, 12:28:58 AM
So, any update on this topic ? Are your dentist accepted bitcoin and success  convince your dentist ? I'm curious about that, because i think it's rare to find dentist who accept bitcoin lol.

Not yet. I'll see my dentist 3 times on the last week of this month, so I'm still looking for arguments. I guess I'll try to split the payment. I'll say what I'll have to pay is above what my credit card can handle in a single transaction. So I'll pay maybe half with the card, than other half with a bank wire, which would take 2 days, or BTC which would take only minutes. But sincerely, I hope he has heard of BTC already. If I have to explain everything about it, that would just take too much time.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: BTCBinary on February 12, 2016, 12:45:34 AM
I'm lucky in that sense. In my country there is one dentist firm that accepts bitcoin.
Every time I need to go to the dentist I pay with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: DrLove2048 on February 12, 2016, 02:39:06 AM
I hope they take it, I always thought it would be cool to pay someone in real life just to see what they say


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: heldertb on February 12, 2016, 03:28:39 AM
I hope they take it, I always thought it would be cool to pay someone in real life just to see what they say

yeah first I search which Dentist  hospital is accept bitcoin then I check teeth with doctor and after i will try to pay money with bitcoin


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: sishendaoye on February 12, 2016, 08:35:21 AM
That would indeed be chill. For I hope later on that I can walk into a store and can simply pay with Bitcoins. Because it is now clear yet and that's a pity.
Many people also do not know what Bitcoins are.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: chennan on February 12, 2016, 06:55:23 PM
You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Aceepting Bitcoin is NOT tax fraud as bitcoin is NOT money, the EU courts have already stated this and there is no tax on bitcoin.

If he then spends the bitcoin he is absolutely fine, whichever way you want to try and look at it.

If he sells the bitcoins for cash/fiat via electronic transfer, he should really declare this as income which would be taxable once above his countries threshold, which is of course viewable by gov if done with electronic transfer.

As he can pay himself any amount of bitcoin he pleases in salary as it is NOT money,
it will have absolutely nothing to do with his businesses finances, as it is NOT money.

Accepting bitcoin is the same as accepting buttons for payment, and then paying yourself those buttons.

If he sells his BTC for cash there is also no record of any income, although i doubt this income would be taxable, unless a considerable amount.

in comparison, do you declare any income you receive when you sell your old items ?
i very much doubt it.

selling bitcoin for cash is just the same as selling old toys out the attic.

So... what you are saying is that you are so much of a sheep that you believe anything that the government tells you?  Just because someone in some government office says that Bitcoin isn't a currency doesn't automatically make it so.  It is against their best interest to have some other currency that gives the power to the people rather than the central banks who funds them.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: CoinSkipper on February 12, 2016, 08:06:12 PM
I hope that in my country in future I will can pay too.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: lister storm on February 12, 2016, 08:22:50 PM
it would be really cool, i would surely pay with bitcoins for such services, i think much more people would get attracted to it then


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: RodeoX on February 12, 2016, 08:33:41 PM
I'm not a dentist, but if you pay me in bitcoin I'll pull some of your teeth.  ;D


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Indianacoin on February 12, 2016, 08:45:13 PM
It would be very difficult to find a dentist who prefers bitcoin.
Hope you get one soon. Let me know.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: countryfree on February 14, 2016, 07:45:33 PM
Not looking for anything besides arguments. I have one dentist, and several appointments for next week. Incidentally, I just found one:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1362868.0

If taxis accept BTC in Budapest, my dentist may have heard about it, and that will sure help convince him that BTC is real money, and that he should accept it.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Duomo on February 14, 2016, 10:55:03 PM
I honestly don't know whether or not if your Dentist will take bitcoin. Let's just look at a financial perspective. Let's assume the dentist has a basic understanding of bitcoin and agrees to render services in exchange for your bitcoin. What if there is a unexcepted fluctuation and the price of bitcoin goes down? You can also assume the price of bitcoin could go up. At the end of the day, it would just be so easier to give physical fiat money.

P.S No harm in asking, right?  ;D


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Hannu on February 14, 2016, 11:06:35 PM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Why u dont exchange your money on dollars/euros?  ???


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: king1982 on February 14, 2016, 11:56:16 PM
Dentist dont except bitcoin like money in my country but i wish it so much dentist can except it like as real money it could be fantastic for me .


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: draceus on February 15, 2016, 02:49:18 AM
That would indeed be chill. For I hope later on that I can walk into a store and can simply pay with Bitcoins. Because it is now clear yet and that's a pity.
Many people also do not know what Bitcoins are.


No first you search dentist hospital is accept bitcoin and after you have problem go with dentist hospital doctor check the teeth and after you tray me also tray to pay dentist hospital  with bitcoin and after I will hope


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: countryfree on February 16, 2016, 12:06:36 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Why u dont exchange your money on dollars/euros?  ???

I suppose you haven't noticed (please, pay more attention), but this board is about BTC. The people here do not want to change their BTC into any fiat currency. We want to use to use BTC everywhere and everyday, including when going to the dentist.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Hugroll on February 16, 2016, 01:53:28 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?
if you show him a exchange where he can cash out his bitcoin, i dont see a reason why he wudnt want to accept bitcoin as a payment.

but ive never seen or heard of anyone paying a doctor with bitcoin lol GL!


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Altynbekova on February 16, 2016, 08:41:43 AM
I sure that dentist can not pay with bitcoin because in budapest still few people using bitcoin. :D
That is right. Not many people use Bitcoin so much. I think many people dont even know what Bitcoin is.
And there are not many shops that accept Bitcoin and that is not so good. I hope later that more shops will accept Bitcoin.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: RodeoX on February 16, 2016, 02:59:10 PM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Why u dont exchange your money on dollars/euros?  ???

I suppose you haven't noticed (please, pay more attention), but this board is about BTC. The people here do not want to change their BTC into any fiat currency. We want to use to use BTC everywhere and everyday, including when going to the dentist.
Amen. I don't do dollars if I can use BTC. Join us.  ;)


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Jemzx00 on February 16, 2016, 04:52:19 PM
If the dentists knows bitcoin maybe he'll probably say yes but you can always withdraw your btc so you can pay him actual money :)


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: mistercoin on February 16, 2016, 04:58:59 PM
Wish I could pay my dentist in BTC. Hopefully the near future will hold such things as this for most places.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: unamis76 on February 16, 2016, 07:07:43 PM
For those saying that dentists are this or that and won't accept Bitcoins... There are quite a few who already do, and I remember reading a couple years back about a dentist being one of the first accepting Bitcoin and one of the first people in the medical business doing so. Since I can't link that one (not sure where I read about it), here goes other dentists accepting Bitcoin:

http://bitcoin.travel/listings/emident/ (In Budapest, curiously)
http://www.dcdclinic.org/ (these apparently do too, although no mention of it on their website)
https://meidanklinikka.fi/ (These accept Bitcoin too)

And there's also this (http://www.bitmd.co/)

Just searching for dentists+bitcoin gives us some options.

Also, OP, what do you understand by "heavy dental work"? And why is it worth it to fly to Budapest just for that? Prices must be really, really good and the service top notch...


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Anddos on February 16, 2016, 09:19:15 PM
Also, and I'm not trying to be mean here, why necessarily pay with bitcoin? I understand going there for the prices, but still.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: mtnsaa on February 16, 2016, 10:13:52 PM
Also, and I'm not trying to be mean here, why necessarily pay with bitcoin? I understand going there for the prices, but still.

Exactly, Bitcoin as a payment system has to die, that notion is ridiculous and no common person will adopt it if we continue with the same song. Bitcoin should be more like gold, and investment where you can store your wealth for new generations. As a payment system it just doesn't make sense when there's credit cards, cash, paypal, etc. Plus you will lose your precious BTC.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: countryfree on February 17, 2016, 12:37:09 AM
And why is it worth it to fly to Budapest just for that? Prices must be really, really good and the service top notch...

Oh yeah! Dentists in Budapest are about one third the price of a dentist in Paris, and one fourth on a dentist in Geneva or London. Even when adding hotel and food bills for 6 days (well, I'll stay in a very cheap hotel), I'm expecting to save 1,000 €, so it's definitely worth the trip. Thousands travel to Budapest for dental work every month.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Druze on February 17, 2016, 05:48:29 AM
im in the u.s. so i doubt that my dentist will accept btc and i dont want to try to convince him ot accept it because i doubt he will change his was to try something new


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: FlyingSaucer on February 17, 2016, 06:33:59 AM
And why is it worth it to fly to Budapest just for that? Prices must be really, really good and the service top notch...

Oh yeah! Dentists in Budapest are about one third the price of a dentist in Paris, and one fourth on a dentist in Geneva or London. Even when adding hotel and food bills for 6 days (well, I'll stay in a very cheap hotel), I'm expecting to save 1,000 €, so it's definitely worth the trip. Thousands travel to Budapest for dental work every month.

Oh that's so nice you are getting your teeth fixed while saving money and having the opportunity to go sightseeing in the meantime.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: EdenHazard on February 17, 2016, 07:33:28 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?
not just dentist,all worker all people should use bitcoin,not just easy and fast,bitcoin will replace cash for someone from all around the world,as you said foreign traveler was so many and have differen currency,and bitcoin will unite it all.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: bearex on February 17, 2016, 07:36:27 AM
You can say, the transaction fees are much lower than with a credit card:D


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: goinmerry on February 17, 2016, 08:07:13 AM
That could be done if he is into bitcoin too.

But if you are going argue just to convince him for that reason, you better ready your fiats so that in any case you can still pay him. Let it go if he wont understand.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Bit_Happy on February 17, 2016, 08:15:21 AM
How exactly do you plan to convince your dentist to accept BTC, unless he s already got required infrastructure?

He can quickly open a free account at Mt. Cryptsy, oh wait...
BitPay was a good suggestion, since the fees are lower than credit cards.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: RariBest on February 17, 2016, 08:31:06 AM
i tried also to pay my dentist whit btc, but he didn't accept, so we made a barter of goods like the primitives. It's hard to convince someone to use bitcoin in their business


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: countryfree on February 17, 2016, 11:48:58 PM
i tried also to pay my dentist whit btc, but he didn't accept, so we made a barter of goods like the primitives. It's hard to convince someone to use bitcoin in their business

Good to know that I'm not the only one. I hope I'll be luckier than you were. I guess I'll talk about the advantage of speed when paying with BTC. Many dentists are being paid by insurances, and they sometimes have to wait several weeks to get the money.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: MTBTT on February 18, 2016, 01:05:36 AM
my dentist not accept bitcoin. i can just convert it to fiat first for pay my dentist


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: aso118 on February 18, 2016, 01:20:23 AM
Also, and I'm not trying to be mean here, why necessarily pay with bitcoin? I understand going there for the prices, but still.

If you strike up a conversation about Bitcoin, educate that person and pay with Bitcoin, you are increasing Bitcoin adoption. When Bitcoin adoption spreads, demand for bitcoins increases and the price increases.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: countryfree on February 24, 2016, 12:09:37 AM
Well, it was worth trying, but it won't happen. I used my most enthusiastic voice, but my Hungarian dentist had never heard of BTC. With other people waiting, there was simply not enough time to explain, let alone convince about the virtues of the electronic currency. I guess I'll try again next year.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: adibe on February 24, 2016, 12:58:38 AM
For those saying that dentists are this or that and won't accept Bitcoins... There are quite a few who already do, and I remember reading a couple years back about a dentist being one of the first accepting Bitcoin and one of the first people in the medical business doing so. Since I can't link that one (not sure where I read about it), here goes other dentists accepting Bitcoin:

http://bitcoin.travel/listings/emident/ (In Budapest, curiously)
http://www.dcdclinic.org/ (these apparently do too, although no mention of it on their website)
https://meidanklinikka.fi/ (These accept Bitcoin too)

And there's also this (http://www.bitmd.co/)

Just searching for dentists+bitcoin gives us some options.

Also, OP, what do you understand by "heavy dental work"? And why is it worth it to fly to Budapest just for that? Prices must be really, really good and the service top notch...

Well, in Europe and USA i think there are doctors who accept bitcoins. But in asia, especially my country it's very rare to find a doctor or dentist who accept bitcoin.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Pattart on February 24, 2016, 02:27:27 AM
You can say, the transaction fees are much lower than with a credit card:D
is it any doctor dentist accepted bitcoin. maybe you could convert to fiat for pay it man


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: martinacar on February 24, 2016, 08:16:03 AM
You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Aceepting Bitcoin is NOT tax fraud as bitcoin is NOT money, the EU courts have already stated this and there is no tax on bitcoin.

If he then spends the bitcoin he is absolutely fine, whichever way you want to try and look at it.

If he sells the bitcoins for cash/fiat via electronic transfer, he should really declare this as income which would be taxable once above his countries threshold, which is of course viewable by gov if done with electronic transfer.

As he can pay himself any amount of bitcoin he pleases in salary as it is NOT money,
it will have absolutely nothing to do with his businesses finances, as it is NOT money.

Accepting bitcoin is the same as accepting buttons for payment, and then paying yourself those buttons.

If he sells his BTC for cash there is also no record of any income, although i doubt this income would be taxable, unless a considerable amount.

in comparison, do you declare any income you receive when you sell your old items ?
i very much doubt it.

selling bitcoin for cash is just the same as selling old toys out the attic.

So... what you are saying is that you are so much of a sheep that you believe anything that the government tells you?  Just because someone in some government office says that Bitcoin isn't a currency doesn't automatically make it so.  It is against their best interest to have some other currency that gives the power to the people rather than the central banks who funds them.
That will be so nice if you can pay tour dentist. But many people doesnt even know what Bitcoin is so it is not so popular.
I hope later in the future that we can all pay with Bitcoin. I think that is faster as well and that is very good for the future.

It will be also nice that you can pay in stores.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: RussianRaibow on February 24, 2016, 01:06:02 PM
It's getting close to the end of the month.  I'm looking forward to the outcome of this.  Don't forget to report back and tell us all how it went.  I'm guessing you won't be able to get him to accept bitcoin, but it would be awesome if you do.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: BlueStackz on February 24, 2016, 08:16:27 PM
You can say, the transaction fees are much lower than with a credit card:D
Exactly the transaction fee are too low in bitcoins when compare to the credit cards. Also there is no tax involved in transaction of bitcoins, so doctors/dentist will prefer to get paid in bitcoins.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: romero121 on February 24, 2016, 11:17:14 PM
Try to pay and if your dentist accepts payment through bitcoin, it is clear that bitcoin has also got its users in one more field.
Only due to similar initiation as well small scale usage makes bitcoin popular as well make others too to adopt bitcoin.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Gyfts on February 24, 2016, 11:28:59 PM
This is such an odd service to pay with BTC with lol. I honestly doubt on this thread, or on Bitcointalk for that matter, has paid a dentist with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: rickadone on February 25, 2016, 07:46:46 PM
It would be great my dentist also accept a payment in BTC. But most of the people even do not know what is bitcoin. These days only we can pay in botcoins for things which are available online and also if the bitcoin is the accepted mode of payment.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Gubzy on April 22, 2016, 05:30:07 AM
Just a word of advice, you should have other funds ready, so you don't need to rely on him accepting it, but I'm sure you already know this.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Doms on April 22, 2016, 06:27:29 AM
Maybe convert some of your bitcoin to cash just in case you can't persuade your dentist to accept bitcoin payment. If you're not the only one who's asking for such arrangement with your dentist, chances are he/she will consider using bitcoin as well.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Altcoinsupporter on April 22, 2016, 07:19:37 AM
Around this time there are not that many people that is accepting Bitcoin for their work and that is because Bitcoin is not that popular now so that must change soon.
First we have to make Bitcoin more popular and more used so we can make it more profitable and that would be nice for the people who already have Bitcoin.

It will be nice if Bitcoin will be in the future more acceptable.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Mumbeeptind1963 on April 22, 2016, 08:33:21 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?
I think the dentist dont accept bitcoin it is more hassle to convert in real money so the dentist have many work to do, she/he dont have time in that thing because dentist always have a patient. If you want to convince the dentist send her 1BTC, and say that the 1BTC is 400$-500$ if they know the price of the bitcoin they accept it for sure


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: evergrow on April 22, 2016, 08:42:18 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Unfortunately my dentist would most certainly just laugh at me asking himself what the hell I'm talking about.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: thend1949 on April 22, 2016, 09:06:03 AM
Pay with high amount of bitcoin i think the dentist accept your payment hehe.. Of course if you pay them a bitcoin they dont have time to claim that in bank or exchange to real money,  because they have many works to do.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Gwapo on April 22, 2016, 09:25:37 AM
Its a nice initiative to stick with bitcoin while paying dentists but you either need to first search for better dentists who accepts btc in first place or you can try to help them adapt to this currency. This might take time though and they as well needs to trust you.

Well if you are looking for dentists who already accepts btc then you can try locating them from these searches:

1. https://coinmap.org
2. http://usebitcoins.info/index.php/bitcoin-in-the-real-world
3. http://bitcoin.travel
4. http://spendbitcoins.com/places

Good luck ;)


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Jasad on April 22, 2016, 09:41:23 AM
using bitcoin for pay services is always better than using bitcoin for buying something,i think its good to introduce bitcoin to dentist,and its good way to spread bitcoin in another level.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: senyorito123 on April 22, 2016, 10:10:18 AM
using bitcoin for pay services is always better than using bitcoin for buying something,i think its good to introduce bitcoin to dentist,and its good way to spread bitcoin in another level.

But i dont think he will accept bitcoin as payments because it is just so little for him to cash it out to the banks and totally waste of time for them to go to banks. But if the dentist is bitcoin well theres no problem with it he can put signage that hes clinic accepts bitcoin for that if bitcoin users know about it it can gain free advertisement for hes dental clinic and it will be known.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: romero121 on April 22, 2016, 10:11:05 AM
using bitcoin for pay services is always better than using bitcoin for buying something,i think its good to introduce bitcoin to dentist,and its good way to spread bitcoin in another level.

Yeah soon when the adoption increases, this increases acceptance of bitcoin in future in most sectors and for various services.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Jeremycoin on April 22, 2016, 10:31:44 AM
It's a good idea, I believe a dentist is a smart person so he/she would know how much Bitcoin will help him/her. We should try this to anyone that we think would likely to accept Bitcoin.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: lumeire on April 22, 2016, 11:35:03 AM
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Unfortunately my dentist would most certainly just laugh at me asking himself what the hell I'm talking about.

Same story over here, although a workaround is to have him/her use BitPay as a payment method. I doubt it'll work though. Here in the Philippines, there's a service that allows you to request bitcoin payments and the customer would simply pay you over convenience stores/pawnshops. Works for online shops.

@ontopic Update us on your dentist's reply. This'll be fun.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Mr. Big on April 22, 2016, 01:26:28 PM
It's a good idea, I believe a dentist is a smart person so he/she would know how much Bitcoin will help him/her. We should try this to anyone that we think would likely to accept Bitcoin.

Well, it depends, if the dentist or the professional that we are going to paid is still in their old passion of using money, then most probably they won't accept bitcoin even if we tell them that it will have a great use to them...But if we really need to convince them, I suggest to walk in their shop earlier, say a  day before, and be friend with the dentist..tell them about bitcoin and your experience..make it more convincing, that way, he/she might try it..  :)


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: countryfree on April 22, 2016, 07:47:06 PM
NOTE to people discovering this topic: I went to see my dentist, and I explained his answer to my proposal about 6 weeks ago. So please check my posts. i'll see him again next year, maybe things will have changed.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Boosterious on April 23, 2016, 01:19:00 AM
Not just dentist,you can try to pay every jobs or services with bitcoin soon,bitcoin just need more adaption to be mainstram adoption,and its will be the best time use your bitcoin as alternate payment.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Kartikay on April 23, 2016, 03:11:39 AM
I have never met a dentist who accepts bitcoins!!!  ;D
Doctors are usually not aware of new technologies until and unless it is related to their work.
I hope your dentist would accept bitcoins but chances of him doing so are shallow.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: aso118 on April 23, 2016, 05:57:56 AM
I have never met a dentist who accepts bitcoins!!!  ;D
Doctors are usually not aware of new technologies until and unless it is related to their work.
I hope your dentist would accept bitcoins but chances of him doing so are shallow.

Don't underestimate the power of dentists!!
The Eurodollar bond market succeeded because Belgian dentists wanted safe avenues to park their money.

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21580467-eurobonds-50th-birthday-has-lessons-governments-about-how-not-regulate-finance-money


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: Kartikay on April 23, 2016, 01:39:11 PM
I have never met a dentist who accepts bitcoins!!!  ;D
Doctors are usually not aware of new technologies until and unless it is related to their work.
I hope your dentist would accept bitcoins but chances of him doing so are shallow.

Don't underestimate the power of dentists!!
The Eurodollar bond market succeeded because Belgian dentists wanted safe avenues to park their money.

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21580467-eurobonds-50th-birthday-has-lessons-governments-about-how-not-regulate-finance-money

The Eurodollar bond case was totally different from bitcoins. Dentists had shown their interest in it because it was safe, while bitcoins are very much volatile in nature and it is more like an investment. If they wished to invest in something, they would have chosen something less volatile and more safe, something more trusted, something like gold or property.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: coinzat on April 23, 2016, 01:47:20 PM
you may go to the dentist and tell him about bitcoin and who it works and teach him how to create a wallet. then tell him that you can pay him in btc so he can get the experience of btc for the first time


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: talkbitcoin on April 23, 2016, 01:55:27 PM
this is nice to see people spreading the word about bitcoin.

@OP what happened, did you do it and what was the dentist respond?
you should update the first post because it is hard to go through 7 pages if you have updated before.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: sk00t3r on April 23, 2016, 02:23:36 PM
you may go to the dentist and tell him about bitcoin and who it works and teach him how to create a wallet. then tell him that you can pay him in btc so he can get the experience of btc for the first time
yeah good suggestion but who have this much time for another people at a moment no one want to spend his time for else... Now people are thinking only own profit so I am not interested in your opinion, If they know about bitcoin then I would like to pay with btc.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: _Victory_ on April 23, 2016, 05:29:40 PM
Good luck with that!


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: ultimatesky on April 26, 2016, 01:24:37 PM
This would make Bitcoin really official to be able to pay your dentist with Bitcoins. Bitcoin has to come a long way before I can do such a thing in my country with Bitcoin. Maybe it will never happen here I don't know.


Title: Re: I'll try to pay my dentist with BTC
Post by: RobinHoodster on April 26, 2016, 02:34:20 PM
you may go to the dentist and tell him about bitcoin and who it works and teach him how to create a wallet. then tell him that you can pay him in btc so he can get the experience of btc for the first time
yeah good suggestion but who have this much time for another people at a moment no one want to spend his time for else... Now people are thinking only own profit so I am not interested in your opinion, If they know about bitcoin then I would like to pay with btc.
That will be nice if you now even can pay your dentist now with Bitcoin, it is nice that you are making Bitcoin also more acceptable, that is quite perfect for the currency itself.
And there are also a lot of people that is going to use Bitcoin now around this time so that will be also nice.