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Title: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: stoat on February 10, 2016, 03:29:40 PM
It's still not too late.  Ethereum is still in single figures.  By next month it will be double figures, and so on and so on.

Dump your shitcoins with no innovation and pathetic developers. And get on board with the next generation of the crypto boom.

We can change the world and if you get in early you can make a profit at the same time.

Ethereum is the most exciting thing to happen in crypto for 5 years. 


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: stoat on February 10, 2016, 03:51:00 PM
Looks like ethereum already won the battle of the altcoins.

Just a matter of time before it challenges bitcoin for the number 1 spot.



Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: benthach on February 10, 2016, 04:04:41 PM
enjoy it now while it last buddy as it is not going to last that long with your shit nonsense get rich scam coin.





















edit; i see others so call platforms like record keeping factom and storage platform like maidsafe are chasing your ass now
these dumb morons must not realize there are ton of others scam platforms and smart contracts out there


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: stoat on February 10, 2016, 05:13:36 PM
enjoy it now while it last buddy as it is not going to last that long with your shit nonsense get rich scam coin.

Why are you so bitter? What grudge do you hold against ethereum?  Did your own copy and paste shitcoin not take off? Did you incest in litecoin?  Or did you incest in ripple?


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Redrose on February 10, 2016, 05:16:33 PM
Looks like ethereum already won the battle of the altcoins.

Just a matter of time before it challenges bitcoin for the number 1 spot.



I would not like to be a bit disappointing but I will be. Face it : Ethereum will never surpass Bitcoin. Why would it will, when Bitcoin is being accepted more and more and is WORKING ? Even if I am an Ethereum supporter too, I have to admit that without a working noob-proof GUI wallet, Ethereum will only conquer banksters' heart :-\.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: benthach on February 10, 2016, 05:27:37 PM
enjoy it now while it last buddy as it is not going to last that long with your shit nonsense get rich scam coin.

Why are you so bitter? What grudge do you hold against ethereum?  Did your own copy and paste shitcoin not take off? Did you incest in litecoin?  Or did you incest in ripple?

there is no reason for me to bitter or laugh at your crap, i have seen many of it already. i know soon or later your shitcoin and you would be down to your knees. i would have to say it's annoying.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: GTO911 on February 10, 2016, 05:36:57 PM
Lol stoat is so desperate to get rich quick, he gets wet dreams about it


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: stoat on February 10, 2016, 08:34:24 PM
enjoy it now while it last buddy as it is not going to last that long with your shit nonsense get rich scam coin.

Why are you so bitter? What grudge do you hold against ethereum?  Did your own copy and paste shitcoin not take off? Did you incest in litecoin?  Or did you incest in ripple?

there is no reason for me to bitter or laugh at your crap, i have seen many of it already. i know soon or later your shitcoin and you would be down to your knees. i would have to say it's annoying.

So why are you constantly making threads spreading pointless FUD about ethereum?

You seem pretty bitter to me

Bitchcointalk subforum sour grapes discussion.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: TPTB_need_war on February 10, 2016, 09:03:33 PM
So why are you constantly making threads spreading pointless FUD about ethereum?

Yeah why are you doing that stoat?

And you are lying about my identity (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707237.msg13835627#msg13835627) and have refused to retract your slander, when I am clearly not the two users you accused me of being (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707237.msg13835627#msg13835627) and I have even shared my LinkedIn photo and identity (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346909.msg13751709#msg13751709).

Why can't you admit that Ethereum's developers suck and after $millions wasted, they still have not solved the most fundamental issue that must be solved in order to make scripting on a block chain work?

The technological challenge with a long-running script on a block chain is verification. The gas (and txn fees) are paid to the winner of the PoW block, not to all miners, but all miners (full nodes) have to endure the SAME cost of verification. Yet not all miners have the same hashrate, thus not all miners have the same income per block. Thus some miners recoup less of their verification costs than other miners. As I explained in greater detail (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183043.msg13800901#msg13800901), this forces mining to become 100% centralized in one miner with 100% hashrate.

Ethereum is off on another tangent named Casper, with shards, consensus-by-betting, etc, which is another hopeless and futile attempt to solve a problem that CAN NOT BE SOLVED BECAUSE OF THE INVIOLABLE CAP THEOREM!

Ethereum will never solve this problem and remain decentralized. Never. Thus all the scripts and products being built on top of Ethereum are headed to failure when Ethereum fails to solve the scaling problem of verification in a decentralized manner. Because centralization of scripting is meaningless, we always had that already.

I have solved the problem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1319681.msg13819991#msg13819991) because I realized verification MUST be centralized (due to the inviolable CAP theorem and the correct understanding that a 100% decentralized system can not solve the Byzantine General's Problem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183043.msg13823607#msg13823607)), and thus I instead designed a way to control the centralization of verification with decentralized PoW miners (because each user submits a PoW share with their txn and because PoW mining is rendered UNprofitable for all parties).

So who will be the winner of everything? Me. Not Ethereum. Not to mention that marketing plan is light years ahead of any altcoin, because I will market directly to the millions of masses and achieve millions of adoptions (and be the first coin to do so).

Look I was there at the beginning telling Charles (one of the guys who founded and organized the creation of Ethereum) in Skype that Vitalik's PoW algorithm could be parallelized thus not CPU only, telling him that they could not solve the fundamental problem above, and telling him that they were going to raise too much $ with too many mouths to feed and still wouldn't solve the fundamental problems. Originally Charles was recruiting me to form this company, not Vitalik. But I balked and said I didn't want to raise all that money and I didn't want to start something until I was sure I had solved all fundamental issues. If you don't believe me, go ask Charles.

All the gory details about Ethereum's technical incompetence are here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/42rvm3/truth_about_ethereum_is_being_banned_at/

Enjoy the Ethereum pump while it is hot and while people are ignorant of the truth about the technical incompetence of the Ethereum developers. Eventually the truth will come out and especially when my white papers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219023.msg13835940#msg13835940) and coin are released.

Edit: r0ach has also explained (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.0) what I've been pointing out about Ethereum for more than a month.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on February 10, 2016, 09:48:05 PM
Ethereum is off on another tangent named Casper, with shards, consensus-by-betting, etc, which is another hopeless and futile attempt to solve a problem that CAN NOT BE SOLVED BECAUSE OF THE INVIOLABLE CAP THEOREM!

Casper adds Game theory into the mix. You can fool lightweight nodes, but you will lose a lot of money after that. Security deposits solve a lot of problems in real world.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: TPTB_need_war on February 10, 2016, 10:00:38 PM
Ethereum is off on another tangent named Casper, with shards, consensus-by-betting, etc, which is another hopeless and futile attempt to solve a problem that CAN NOT BE SOLVED BECAUSE OF THE INVIOLABLE CAP THEOREM!

Casper adds Game theory into the mix. You can fool lightweight nodes, but you will lose a lot of money after that. Security deposits solve a lot of problems in real world.

Proof-of-cheating (or by any other name) backed by deposits, is a game theory that leads to centralization. Think it out. It is not really that hard to show that. It has analogous flaws as PoS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1319681.msg13488432#msg13488432).

Edit: for n00bs, note that by definition if we will use proof-of-cheating with deposits in Casper (along with consensus-by-betting) to rely on some limited number of nodes with deposits to verify the block chain for us, then those masternodes have the same economic problem that I explained in my prior post and thus the one with the most income is the winner take all, i.e. 100% centralization. There is simply no way to avoid centralization of verification. The solution is the one I have designed and explained and which Ethereum is not implementing.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: stoat on February 10, 2016, 10:22:28 PM
So why are you constantly making threads spreading pointless FUD about ethereum?

Yeah why are you doing that stoat?

And you are lying about my identity (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707237.msg13835627#msg13835627) and have refused to retract your slander, when I am clearly not the two users you accused me of being (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707237.msg13835627#msg13835627) and I have even shared my LinkedIn photo and identity (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346909.msg13751709#msg13751709).

Why can't you admit that Ethereum's developers suck and after $millions wasted, they still have not solved the most fundamental issue that must be solved in order to make scripting on a block chain work?

The technological challenge with a long-running script on a block chain is verification. The gas (and txn fees) are paid to the winner of the PoW block, not to all miners, but all miners (full nodes) have to endure the SAME cost of verification. Yet not all miners have the same hashrate, thus not all miners have the same income per block. Thus some miners recoup less of their verification costs than other miners. As I explained in greater detail (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183043.msg13800901#msg13800901), this forces mining to become 100% centralized in one miner with 100% hashrate.

Ethereum is off on another tangent named Casper, with shards, consensus-by-betting, etc, which is another hopeless and futile attempt to solve a problem that CAN NOT BE SOLVED BECAUSE OF THE INVIOLABLE CAP THEOREM!

Ethereum will never solve this problem and remain decentralized. Never. Thus all the scripts and products being built on top of Ethereum are headed to failure when Ethereum fails to solve the scaling problem of verification in a decentralized manner. Because centralization of scripting is meaningless, we always had that already.

I have solved the problem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1319681.msg13819991#msg13819991) because I realized verification MUST be centralized (due to the inviolable CAP theorem and the correct understanding that a 100% decentralized system can not solve the Byzantine General's Problem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183043.msg13823607#msg13823607)), and thus I instead designed a way to control the centralization of verification with decentralized PoW miners (because each user submits a PoW share with their txn and because PoW mining is rendered UNprofitable for all parties).

So who will be the winner of everything? Me. Not Ethereum. Not to mention that marketing plan is light years ahead of any altcoin, because I will market directly to the millions of masses and achieve millions of adoptions (and be the first coin to do so).

Look I was there at the beginning telling Charles (one of the guys who founded and organized the creation of Ethereum) in Skype that Vitalik's PoW algorithm could be parallelized thus not CPU only, telling him that they could not solve the fundamental problem above, and telling him that they were going to raise too much $ with too many mouths to feed and still wouldn't solve the fundamental problems. Originally Charles was recruiting me to form this company, not Vitalik. But I balked and said I didn't want to raise all that money and I didn't want to start something until I was sure I had solved all fundamental issues. If you don't believe me, go ask Charles.

All the gory details about Ethereum's technical incompetence are here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/42rvm3/truth_about_ethereum_is_being_banned_at/

Enjoy the Ethereum pump while it is hot and while people are ignorant of the truth about the technical incompetence of the Ethereum developers. Eventually the truth will come out and especially when my white papers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219023.msg13835940#msg13835940) and coin are released.

You're delusional.  I made a joke about you, spoetnik and benthatch being the same person.

As for the rest of your post, it's just the same boring drivel you type out on the reg. 

I didn't read it and never will.



Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: TPTB_need_war on February 10, 2016, 10:22:56 PM
Quote from: TrashMan
I just don't want the same thing happening to ZCash that happend to ethereum, Vitalik announced a while ago how much Ether the foundation had left and then the price skyrocketed because everybody was waiting for the whales to sell out.

Could you please provide to us a link to this announcement by Vitalik?

How do we know the insiders did not sell to themselves and have (intentionally) created a deception which caused P&D fever?


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: TPTB_need_war on February 10, 2016, 10:24:56 PM
I made a joke about you, spoetnik and benthatch being the same person.

I accept that as a retraction of your slanderous allegation.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: stoat on February 10, 2016, 10:51:40 PM
I made a joke about you, spoetnik and benthatch being the same person.

I accept that as a retraction of your slanderous allegation.

"Slanderous allegation".  What like the ones you and your buddy benthatch throw around casually all day long?

What benthach does is tantamount to tortuous interference. And you are nearly as bad you just wrap it in a veneer of "technical objections"


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: TPTB_need_war on February 10, 2016, 10:55:18 PM
I made a joke about you, spoetnik and benthatch being the same person.

I accept that as a retraction of your slanderous allegation.

"Slanderous allegation".  What like the ones you and your buddy benthatch throw around casually all day long?

What benthach does is tantamount to tortuous interference. And you are nearly as bad you just wrap it in a veneer of "technical objections"

Don't blame me for what the other clowns do. Why the hell would you associate my technological expertise with those two clowns.

Stating as fact that I am them (which you have now retracted) is slander. Whereas, the following is just an opinion so I did not claim the following is slander:

You're delusional.

You may not like my technological expertise and opinions, but I am not slandering you.

You say you refuse to read my technological expertise. I think that is great so readers can see you are intentionally blind to reality.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: stoat on February 11, 2016, 12:10:18 AM
Your criticism amounts to [A decentralised internet is impossible because of these highly complex reasons that only I understand].

If you know so much about it, why haven't you created your own system?  Why don't you publish an academic paper so people of your "intellect" can review it?

Trolling this forum won't get you anywhere.

Why don't you write a non confrontational paper explaining your theories and submit them to the ethereum developers?  In this way some progress could be made.  

Instead you are just wasting everybody's time writing stuff that hardly anyone here understands that may or may not be true because we have no way of verifying or refuting your highly technical and complicated objections.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: TPTB_need_war on February 11, 2016, 12:13:14 AM
Your criticism amounts to [A decentralised internet is impossible because of these highly complex reasons that only I understand].

If you know so much about it, why haven't you created your own system?  Why don't you publish an academic paper so people of your "intellect" can review it?

Trolling this forum won't get you anywhere.

Why don't you write a non confrontational paper explaining your theories and submit them to the ethereum developers?  In this way some progress could be made.  

Instead you are just wasting everybody's time writing stuff that hardly anyone here understands that may or may not be true because we have no way of verifying or refuting your highly technical and complicated objections.

I am working on it. The distinction is as I explained upthread about Charles, Vitalik, and Ethereum, I did not waste $millions doing my research. And when I release my white papers and coin, I still won't be doing an ICO nor asking for any money from speculators at all.

You watch and observe how it is done.

Edit: and why do you think I would be incentivized to write white papers solely for the purpose of helping Ethereum not make more mistakes. I am happy to see them waste another $millions of your dumb money on dumb research. If I had gone for the ICO pump job, I could earned my $million already. But my goal was never that small. I wanted to do something to impact the world and besides a $million for me is at least an order-of-magnitude below my goal.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 11, 2016, 12:15:11 AM
Lol stoat is so desperate to get rich quick, he gets wet dreams about it
I get this impression as well, but really I could give a fuck.  The only altcoin I like is doge and maybe a little Dash, but it's really just bitcoin for me.  All the rest are wannabees IMO.  But if something comes along that can challenge bitcoin--legitimately--then more power to whatever that is.  If it's ethereum, well then it's got its work cut out for itself.  It's not going to be easy to dethrone btc.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: stoat on February 11, 2016, 12:18:46 AM
any proof at all of those claims?

A shred of evidence perhaps?


So far I see the ethereum blockchain and consensus protocol working fine.

And what I see from you is just a load of wild claims.



Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: TPTB_need_war on February 11, 2016, 01:05:21 AM
So far I see the ethereum blockchain and consensus protocol working fine.

It hasn't been scaled yet. Bitcoin's scalepocalypse will pale in comparison to Ethereum's doom in the wild. Essentially what Ethereum is designing with Casper is a technobabble wrapper around centralized verification, because either they know that verification can't be decentralized (as I have explained), or they are determined to delude themselves otherwise (with the result being the centralization occurs anyway).

With centralization, Ehereum can scale except note that will be viewed as a failure by the market, unless verification centralization can be hidden behind Sybil attacks on the verification nodes (meaning no one can prove that a 1000 nodes aren't controlled by the same entity). I have a strong suspicion that is why Ethereum is being funded by Peter Thiel and other banksters, because they understand Ethereum is a way for them to control without being detected. Satoshi had prevented this outcome in Bitcoin by setting the maximum block size to 1MB, which thus restricted verification from centralizing entirely (yet it will still be impossible to prevent Bitcoin Classic from centralizing due to the other economics of profitable PoW mining).

But centralization always leads to failure. So ultimately this will fail sooner or later.

And what I see from you is just a load of wild claims.

That is because you are n00b and you can't understand the technological arguments. The points I have made are not wild at all. Do you realize I was probably the first person to predict Bitcoin's scalepocalypse in 2013 as ArticMine graciously admits today (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183043.msg13843276#msg13843276):

I introduced this concept in 2013 in my thread Spiraling Transaction Fees (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=340686.0) and I nailed the block size as the fundamental issue in my last post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=340686.msg3681159#msg3681159) in that 2013 thread.

Seems stoat you had no clue how long I have been here in this forum and doing serious technological research.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: TPTB_need_war on February 11, 2016, 01:20:27 AM
...but it's really just bitcoin for me.  All the rest are wannabees IMO.  But if something comes along that can challenge bitcoin--legitimately--then more power to whatever that is.  If it's ethereum, well then it's got its work cut out for itself.  It's not going to be easy to dethrone btc.

The only coin that could dethrone Bitcoin would be one that had higher levels of adoption.

None of the altcoins have generated any adoption. Maybe Doge generated a few 1000s of actual users, but that is nothing compared to 10,000s of serious users of Bitcoin.

Millions of users estimates for Bitcoin is delusion (based on wallet estimates for example from Coinbase which doesn't include wallets that have been abandoned and driven originally by affiliation payouts, Coinbase is burning up IPO money three times to the well because its business model has failed). No coin has that yet.

You'll know it when you become aware of the Bitcoin killer. It will be so damn obvious due to the millions of users adopting it.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: benthach on February 11, 2016, 10:22:55 AM
I made a joke about you, spoetnik and benthatch being the same person.

I accept that as a retraction of your slanderous allegation.

"Slanderous allegation".  What like the ones you and your buddy benthatch throw around casually all day long?

What benthach does is tantamount to tortuous interference. And you are nearly as bad you just wrap it in a veneer of "technical objections"

so i interference your get rich quick scam? i think you saying i'm blocking your road to becoming a get rich quick person. i personally think you guys already succeed, a shitcoin like ethorieem which is worth nothing and now is at $350,000,000 creating ton of millionaires. your get rich quick scam do work but what i think you are just greedy and wanting more.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on February 11, 2016, 10:29:24 AM
so i interference your get rich quick scam coin I didn't invest into? i think you saying i'm blocking your road to becoming a get rich quick person. i personally think you guys already succeed, a shitcoin innovative coin like ethorieem (sorry, can't spell it correctly, I'm a dyslexic) which is potentially worth nothing more than Bitcoin and now is at $350,000,000 creating ton of millionaires. your get rich quick scam project do work but what i think you are just greedy and wanting more I'm an envious troll this is why I post nonsense every day.

FTFY


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: benthach on February 11, 2016, 10:40:28 AM
so i interference your get rich quick scam coin I didn't invest into? i think you saying i'm blocking your road to becoming a get rich quick person. i personally think you guys already succeed, a shitcoin innovative coin like ethorieem (sorry, can't spell it correctly, I'm a dyslexic) which is potentially worth nothing more than Bitcoin and now is at $350,000,000 creating ton of millionaires. your get rich quick scam project do work but what i think you are just greedy and wanting more I'm an envious troll this is why I post nonsense every day.

FTFY

you need to get back to your scam iota, you spending too much times kissing the etherirum people asses. i bet you are looking to get some hypes from them so you too can becoming rich quick with your shit.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on February 11, 2016, 10:49:17 AM
you need to get back to your scam iota, you spending too much times kissing the etherirum people asses. i bet you are looking to get some hypes from them so you too can becoming rich quick with your shit.

You are so sensitive. Ohdear, you should have invested in other coins, not those you own now, you would be in much better mood and accepted the joke not so seriously, haha.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: benthach on February 11, 2016, 10:51:21 AM
you need to get back to your scam iota, you spending too much times kissing the etherirum people asses. i bet you are looking to get some hypes from them so you too can becoming rich quick with your shit.

You are so sensitive. Ohdear, you should have invested in other coins, not those you own now, you would be in much better mood and accepted the joke not so seriously, haha.

i invest nothing, included the get rich quick etheoriem and your scam iota. LOL. my purpose here is not investing but a scam buster.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on February 11, 2016, 10:54:20 AM
i invest nothing, included the get rich quick etheoriem and your scam iota. LOL. my purpose here is not investing but a scam buster.

Can you also walk on water by any chance?


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: benthach on February 11, 2016, 10:59:30 AM
i invest nothing, included the get rich quick etheoriem and your scam iota. LOL. my purpose here is not investing but a scam buster.

Can you also walk on water by any chance?

if you have nothing to say then don't say at all. it is best for you and your scam iota


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on February 11, 2016, 11:05:33 AM
if you have nothing to say then don't say at all. it is best for you and your scam iota

Don't get me wrong, I'm questioning your real motives because if you really were busting scams then it would be demonstrated by your reputation. For now it's only you who claim that you are a scam buster, the reputation says that you are just a loser who has achieved nothing and trolls because has no money to invest.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: benthach on February 11, 2016, 11:11:36 AM
if you have nothing to say then don't say at all. it is best for you and your scam iota

Don't get me wrong, I'm questioning your real motives because if you really were busting scams then it would be demonstrated by your reputation. For now it's only you who claim that you are a scam buster, the reputation says that you are just a loser who has achieved nothing and trolls because has no money to invest.

i warned people about supernet, paycoin, crave and endless other scam coins. people would save ton of their btc if they have reads my posts. i wouldn't care much about your scam though as it will be DOA unless you pay people like bobsurplus to hype and creating fake buy walls and volume.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on February 11, 2016, 11:16:37 AM
i warned people about supernet, paycoin, crave and endless other scam coins.

Did you use intuition to realize that they were scams, did you have insider info about those coins or did you see some signs that allowed to see their real nature?


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: BitcoinNational on February 11, 2016, 11:20:52 AM
enjoy it now while it last buddy as it is not going to last that long with your shit nonsense get rich scam coin.
bump

your too HIGH on the $ETH
there will be a LOW and the signal is getting strong on that one

100% chance that the ICO whales dump the living beans out of ETH on the rubes, drag it down to >$50M to only accumulate more!

srsly ... @$ 4.43    and they paid $0.30 ... dropping to $0.10 is very probable ;)

Quote
Dump your shitcoins with no innovation and pathetic developers. And get on board with the next generation of the crypto boom.
the boom is already done
now comes the bust


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on February 11, 2016, 09:43:01 PM
i warned people about supernet, paycoin, crave and endless other scam coins.

Did you use intuition to realize that they were scams, did you have insider info about those coins or did you see some signs that allowed to see their real nature?

I like how trolls run scared once someone asks them direct questions. I bet poor benthach will never come to this thread to answer...

Hey, benthach, I'm just teasing you. Come back and post new portion of nonsense.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: benthach on February 11, 2016, 09:46:42 PM
i warned people about supernet, paycoin, crave and endless other scam coins.

Did you use intuition to realize that they were scams, did you have insider info about those coins or did you see some signs that allowed to see their real nature?

I like how trolls run scared once someone asks them direct questions. I bet poor benthach will never come to this thread to answer...

Hey, benthach, I'm just teasing you. Come back and post new portion of nonsense.

your question have nothing to do with this thread and it's a waste of my time to stick with your subject


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on February 11, 2016, 10:28:25 PM
your question have nothing to do with this thread and it's a waste of my time to stick with your subject

I expected to see an excuse like this. The case is clear, you are yet another troll that can't defend his own legend.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: benthach on February 11, 2016, 10:55:47 PM
your question have nothing to do with this thread and it's a waste of my time to stick with your subject

I expected to see an excuse like this. The case is clear, you are yet another troll that can't defend his own legend.

i expecting more questions and answers like this so you can plug your get rich quick scam iota into the subject


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on February 11, 2016, 11:04:29 PM
i expecting more questions and answers like this so you can plug your get rich quick scam iota into the subject

Wasn't it you who said
it's a waste of my time to stick with your subject

But you still continue which shows that I have touched an open wound. I've seen a lot of trolls, your modus operandi repeats theirs with 99% match.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: benthach on February 11, 2016, 11:12:42 PM
i expecting more questions and answers like this so you can plug your get rich quick scam iota into the subject

Wasn't it you who said
it's a waste of my time to stick with your subject

But you still continue which shows that I have touched an open wound. I've seen a lot of trolls, your modus operandi repeats theirs with 99% match.

as expected call everyone trolls for exposing get rich quick scam like his iota.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on February 12, 2016, 12:12:38 AM
as expected call everyone trolls for exposing get rich quick scam like his iota.

If you are not a troll then you shouldn't have a problem with answering that question that you try to avoid to answer. So? Will we get a real answer or another excuse?


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: benthach on February 12, 2016, 12:22:23 AM
as expected call everyone trolls for exposing get rich quick scam like his iota.

If you are not a troll then you shouldn't have a problem with answering that question that you try to avoid to answer. So? Will we get a real answer or another excuse?

you are such a childish begging for candy. i'm using my magic balls, satisfied now? would you like to licks my magic balls? it could give you some luck with your get rich iota.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Spoetnik on February 12, 2016, 01:24:36 AM
Garbage posts by spammer..
this if it was even a legit topic ? Should have been put in Meta.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on February 12, 2016, 08:54:48 AM
as expected call everyone trolls for exposing get rich quick scam like his iota.

If you are not a troll then you shouldn't have a problem with answering that question that you try to avoid to answer. So? Will we get a real answer or another excuse?

you are such a childish begging for candy. i'm using my magic balls, satisfied now? would you like to licks my magic balls? it could give you some luck with your get rich iota.

Great. Now I can quote this answer if I see you calling any coin a scam. It will add a lot of credibility to your verdict.

PS: You, trolls, fall in the same trap again and again, haha.


Title: Re: Proposal: rename altcoin discussion to sour grapes discussion
Post by: gravitate on February 12, 2016, 03:23:13 PM
Your criticism amounts to [A decentralised internet is impossible because of these highly complex reasons that only I understand].

If you know so much about it, why haven't you created your own system?  Why don't you publish an academic paper so people of your "intellect" can review it?

Trolling this forum won't get you anywhere.

Why don't you write a non confrontational paper explaining your theories and submit them to the ethereum developers?  In this way some progress could be made.  

Instead you are just wasting everybody's time writing stuff that hardly anyone here understands that may or may not be true because we have no way of verifying or refuting your highly technical and complicated objections.

I am working on it. The distinction is as I explained upthread about Charles, Vitalik, and Ethereum, I did not waste $millions doing my research. And when I release my white papers and coin, I still won't be doing an ICO nor asking for any money from speculators at all.

You watch and observe how it is done.

Edit: and why do you think I would be incentivized to write white papers solely for the purpose of helping Ethereum not make more mistakes. I am happy to see them waste another $millions of your dumb money on dumb research. If I had gone for the ICO pump job, I could earned my $million already. But my goal was never that small. I wanted to do something to impact the world and besides a $million for me is at least an order-of-magnitude below my goal.

 How dio I follow you?