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Title: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - CLOSED -
Post by: crazy_rabbit on January 11, 2013, 09:32:37 PM
In the next week or so I will be taking down www.terrawallet.com to bring up a new and improved Terrawallet (it's going to be great).

So, withdraw your coins. I won't be keeping track of anything, it was alpha/beta all along. :-) So here's your fair warning. You have at least a week!

In the mantime you can test run the new Terrawallet- with insta-codes, Api (currently buggy), QR code payments, Email payments, snazzy stuff. Lots of typos and a few bugs. Check it out!

http://23.21.43.86/

I will be open sourcing this down the line, had to pay a developer to get this going: Big shout out to Tradefortress. :-)

It would be AWESOME if someone stepped up and figured out how to do the Javascript decrypted wallets a-la Blockchain.

In the meantime, please have a look!


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Planned Service Outage -
Post by: anonymous_acc on January 12, 2013, 12:31:46 AM
Check the login page  http://www.terrawallet.com/  (http://www.terrawallet.com/), make me a wallet and redirect to  http://wallet.it.cx  (http://wallet.it.cx) - down


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Planned Service Outage -
Post by: crazy_rabbit on January 12, 2013, 03:11:51 AM
Check the login page  http://www.terrawallet.com/  (http://www.terrawallet.com/), make me a wallet and redirect to  http://wallet.it.cx  (http://wallet.it.cx) - down

I don't understand, I don't have anything to do with wallet.it.cx. But terrawallet is working fine if you're trying to get your coins out.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Planned Service Outage -
Post by: crazy_rabbit on January 17, 2013, 12:45:21 PM
www.terrawallet.com will be going down soon for planned upgrades. Nothing will be saved, nor carried over from the beta server. No coins, logins, nothing.

This shouldn't be a problem though, I'm fully aware there's almost nothing on it. :-)

Contact me if you do end up losing coins. But there are only a tiny, tiny amount left.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still Beta
Post by: crazy_rabbit on January 19, 2013, 03:22:32 PM
We're back up with Terrawallet!

www.terrawallet.com

Now including auto play feature for TRC Dice!


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still BETA!!!
Post by: siesatsu on January 19, 2013, 06:14:17 PM
Sorry but terrawallet is no good IMO


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still BETA!!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on January 19, 2013, 06:43:00 PM
Sorry but terrawallet is no good IMO

No reason given? Just because? I mean, besides the obvious fact that the text is kinda messed up and it's beta and not final or anything.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still BETA!!!
Post by: g2x3k on January 19, 2013, 06:53:14 PM
Sorry but terrawallet is no good IMO

thats not very constructive ... iam glad someone is makeing on it :)


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Possible service interupt
Post by: crazy_rabbit on January 26, 2013, 02:57:51 PM
Just an update, I am switching over to using CloudFlare- there shouldn't be any interruption of service, but there might be FYI. Nothing is being changed on the actual server however, so even if there is interruption everything should be safe!



Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still BETA!!!
Post by: maunderingcabal on February 02, 2013, 08:37:19 AM
I like this idea, good job. I'm going to try it when I get some terracoins. Will this wallets inclued other cryptocoins?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still BETA!!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 02, 2013, 09:55:03 AM
I like this idea, good job. I'm going to try it when I get some terracoins. Will this wallets inclued other cryptocoins?

I'm thinking about it!


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still BETA!!!
Post by: maunderingcabal on February 02, 2013, 12:56:51 PM
I made a wallet

1FKwSsSkYbEic252BAuT1GP7M5Zt8BGxRb

Where is a good place to mine terracoins?

also what is the minimum bet for terradice?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still BETA!!!
Post by: maunderingcabal on February 02, 2013, 01:00:53 PM
Also, explain the crates and sim mining? Do you need terra coins to start the aps?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still BETA!!!
Post by: maunderingcabal on February 04, 2013, 04:34:28 AM
Also, explain the crates and sim mining? Do you need terra coins to start the aps?

I stress-tested your sim mining and crate app gambling system. Really fun. I THROTTLED the system! I won't let me gamble anymore. Is there some way you could re-write the page to just allow deposits, like your terradice for these aps? Instead of making codes, it's kind of a drag to copy and paste the codes every time, and I have lost a couple terracoins by forgetting to copy and paste the code correctly (is that a scheme in the design to make more for the house?).


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still BETA!!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 04, 2013, 08:04:44 AM
Also, explain the crates and sim mining? Do you need terra coins to start the aps?

I stress-tested your sim mining and crate app gambling system. Really fun. I THROTTLED the system! I won't let me gamble anymore. Is there some way you could re-write the page to just allow deposits, like your terradice for these aps? Instead of making codes, it's kind of a drag to copy and paste the codes every time, and I have lost a couple terracoins by forgetting to copy and paste the code correctly (is that a scheme in the design to make more for the house?).

I'm glad you like it- yes I've thought about this. It's not high on the list but I know it's kind of a pain to have to do copy and paste the codes. Down the line I will get to this though. :-)


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still BETA!!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 04, 2013, 08:05:22 AM
The Terrawallet is getting a facelift at the moment - it's stil up and kicking so feel free to use it, but some links don't go anywhere. I'll fix this durring the week.

EDIT: Some things that aren't working:

BTC/USD rate: - this shows bitcoin obviously. I'm currently building a Bitcoin version. Hence the overlap with a few things.

Links: Receive funds is blind- doesn't go anywhere yet. You can still of course receive, your addresses are listed on the address page.  I will clean this up this week.
Also blind are the "what is bitcoin", "support" and "terms of service".

:-)


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still BETA!!!
Post by: maunderingcabal on February 04, 2013, 08:52:50 AM
Sometimes it lags on giving me TRC from codes, also it has logged me out for no reason a couple times when I was reading the API info.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - New Version Online - Still BETA!!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 04, 2013, 12:50:26 PM
Sometimes it lags on giving me TRC from codes, also it has logged me out for no reason a couple times when I was reading the API info.

You mean lags on when giving you TRC from Instacodes? Perhaps my server isn't so powerful at the moment.

The autolog out was meant to be for security. Do you mind being auto-logged out? Or would it satisfy you if you were able to read the api information without being logged in?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 05, 2013, 08:45:03 AM
So a NEW version of www.terrawallet.com is up.

New design! Same basic Features. Some links are still blind. (Notice that I have a "what is bitcoin?" that will be "what is terracoin", but I'm looking forward to rolling out a bitcoin version down the road).


Biggest update: New Email confirmation on signup- and best of all: Cold Storage! Most coins are now kept off-sever.

This is a feature that I am most curious to see people try and use (abuse). It's a hard guess as to how many coins should be kept on/off server and I don't have any fancy algorithm to help me determine it. So if you're hitting withdrawl limits let me know, I have to manually refill the server so I might be a bit slow to react at the moment as I'm traveling but in the future I will figure some better method out as well. :-)

Enjoy and let me know what you think!
 

EDIT: I see the cold storage is already too high a percent. :-) Will adjust!

EDIT: Cold storage is a bit too aggressive. It's disabled for the moment so I can calculate a better way to manage it.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: Walter Rothbard on February 07, 2013, 06:14:58 PM
Hey, Rabbit, it would be great if I could log in with openid and/or my Google account, like I can on bitparking's terracoin exchange. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 08, 2013, 07:02:00 AM
Hey, Rabbit, it would be great if I could log in with openid and/or my Google account, like I can on bitparking's terracoin exchange. :)

Thats an interesting idea. I've head some people don't like that system and I particularly have had trouble with it myself. What would be the advantage of it?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: Walter Rothbard on February 08, 2013, 06:52:03 PM
Hey, Rabbit, it would be great if I could log in with openid and/or my Google account, like I can on bitparking's terracoin exchange. :)

Thats an interesting idea. I've head some people don't like that system and I particularly have had trouble with it myself. What would be the advantage of it?

In my case it would've helped me ramp up easier.  I wouldn't have to create and remember yet another password.  I don't want to give terrawallet a password I'm using anywhere else, but I don't want to pick something ultra easily guessable.

It might also be useful as an additional second factor for identification, at some point.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 08, 2013, 08:56:24 PM
Hey, Rabbit, it would be great if I could log in with openid and/or my Google account, like I can on bitparking's terracoin exchange. :)

Thats an interesting idea. I've head some people don't like that system and I particularly have had trouble with it myself. What would be the advantage of it?

In my case it would've helped me ramp up easier.  I wouldn't have to create and remember yet another password.  I don't want to give terrawallet a password I'm using anywhere else, but I don't want to pick something ultra easily guessable.

It might also be useful as an additional second factor for identification, at some point.

That is a good point- for the creating "yet another password" I now use Lastpass which has simplified my online life to no end. There is a free tier which will solve all your problems.

I would like to look into Yubi-keys in the future- especially if/when I add bitcoin support. :-)

I spoke with slush the other day and maybe I'd like to incorporate his Trezor as well.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: webosftw on February 09, 2013, 12:41:28 AM
Site looks great @crazy_rabbit! Would be awesome if you can add a option where it displays BTC/USD current price to also display TRC current price.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on February 09, 2013, 01:11:06 AM
Hey, Rabbit, it would be great if I could log in with openid and/or my Google account, like I can on bitparking's terracoin exchange. :)

Thats an interesting idea. I've head some people don't like that system and I particularly have had trouble with it myself. What would be the advantage of it?
Advantage would be if you already have google 2fa set up for your google account :)


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: Walter Rothbard on February 09, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
Ran some Terracoins in and out of terrawallet.com today, and I had no problems to speak of.  The site looks slick, and it's nice to see how fast the Terracoin confirmations come in.  There were a couple glitches where the various pages seemed a little confused about what state we were in. I'm sorry I didn't get any notes as to specifics, but if I see them again and they are reproducible I'll report them.  Nothing hampered the main functionality of the site.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: maunderingcabal on February 09, 2013, 11:37:14 AM
you should make an option to post your backup wallet address, just in case. I don't feel particularly safe using this for large quantities. Other than that I love your wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 09, 2013, 11:49:15 AM
you should make an option to post your backup wallet address, just in case. I don't feel particularly safe using this for large quantities. Other than that I love your wallet.

Thanks! So nice to hear!  That is a really good idea, I've just been thinking how to develop a system that would know when/how to send coins to users backup wallets. You know? For the moment a cold storage system is being implemented, so that if someone hacks the server, the majority of coins (starting around 90%) are actually off line. That's a big step forward in security I think.

I like the backup wallet- but the question then becomes how does one build an effective "trip-wire" that can sense some intrusion and quickly dump the coins in an emergency? I'd really like suggestions about that one. That said, as I look toward a future of making this at least marginally profitable, it's not profitable to send users their coins directly back- you might lose them as users. Rather if you keep them in cold storage, and once the kinks are worked out come back on line- the users might retain a trust in you that they might have otherwise lost in a moment of panic. Of course- I am not thinking only from a 'profit angle' so I wouldn't do something purely for profit reasons, but I'm trying to cover all angles.

I think there is a greater danger however, if the server is compromised in some way that a hacker might be able to play with the emergency addresses and trip the system themselves, and get the system itself to dump all the coins to the hacker. A cold storage system is much simpler, and has less vectors of attack. Indeed I am considering having an entirely offline pre-generated list of addresses for new users, so coins always go straight to the hotwallet, and we never keep more then a fraction of coins online. Even safer as the service never has a chance to accumulate more the whats in the hot-wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 09, 2013, 12:07:47 PM
Site looks great @crazy_rabbit! Would be awesome if you can add a option where it displays BTC/USD current price to also display TRC current price.

Yes, I have been waivering between running terrawallet for BTC or TRC. I think I will do both for the near future, but the new features I want to add (like exchange rate and some other exciting things) require a more developed ecosystem. So for example computing TRC rate at the moment is rather difficult to do as the exchanges are small with small volume. :-( But it's a place holder for testing the Bitcoin version. :-)


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 09, 2013, 12:08:40 PM
Ran some Terracoins in and out of terrawallet.com today, and I had no problems to speak of.  The site looks slick, and it's nice to see how fast the Terracoin confirmations come in.  There were a couple glitches where the various pages seemed a little confused about what state we were in. I'm sorry I didn't get any notes as to specifics, but if I see them again and they are reproducible I'll report them.  Nothing hampered the main functionality of the site.

Okay, I look forward to hear about them. Some thing are glitchy I know. Slowly trying to fix them. :-)


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 13, 2013, 10:08:25 AM
The wallet will look a little bit wonky for the next couple days while I work with the dev to add new features. I'm preparing a Bitcoin Wallet at the moment so you'll see some crossover stuff for a little while. The wallets will not be multi-currency (at least for now).


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: maunderingcabal on February 13, 2013, 12:20:33 PM
you should make an option to post your backup wallet address, just in case. I don't feel particularly safe using this for large quantities. Other than that I love your wallet.

Thanks! So nice to hear!  That is a really good idea, I've just been thinking how to develop a system that would know when/how to send coins to users backup wallets. You know? For the moment a cold storage system is being implemented, so that if someone hacks the server, the majority of coins (starting around 90%) are actually off line. That's a big step forward in security I think.

I like the backup wallet- but the question then becomes how does one build an effective "trip-wire" that can sense some intrusion and quickly dump the coins in an emergency? I'd really like suggestions about that one. That said, as I look toward a future of making this at least marginally profitable, it's not profitable to send users their coins directly back- you might lose them as users. Rather if you keep them in cold storage, and once the kinks are worked out come back on line- the users might retain a trust in you that they might have otherwise lost in a moment of panic. Of course- I am not thinking only from a 'profit angle' so I wouldn't do something purely for profit reasons, but I'm trying to cover all angles.

I think there is a greater danger however, if the server is compromised in some way that a hacker might be able to play with the emergency addresses and trip the system themselves, and get the system itself to dump all the coins to the hacker. A cold storage system is much simpler, and has less vectors of attack. Indeed I am considering having an entirely offline pre-generated list of addresses for new users, so coins always go straight to the hotwallet, and we never keep more then a fraction of coins online. Even safer as the service never has a chance to accumulate more the whats in the hot-wallet.

I don't know what is more of a risk, the possibility of losing all of my coins to a server crash or to a hacker. It still just seems like a risk. I think it would be less likely to lose my coins saved on my computer.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: doublec on February 13, 2013, 12:21:46 PM
Thats an interesting idea. I've head some people don't like that system and I particularly have had trouble with it myself. What would be the advantage of it?
It's definitely been polarizing. Many people love using OpenID and just as many people have hated the exchanges use of it.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 13, 2013, 02:08:55 PM
you should make an option to post your backup wallet address, just in case. I don't feel particularly safe using this for large quantities. Other than that I love your wallet.

Thanks! So nice to hear!  That is a really good idea, I've just been thinking how to develop a system that would know when/how to send coins to users backup wallets. You know? For the moment a cold storage system is being implemented, so that if someone hacks the server, the majority of coins (starting around 90%) are actually off line. That's a big step forward in security I think.

I like the backup wallet- but the question then becomes how does one build an effective "trip-wire" that can sense some intrusion and quickly dump the coins in an emergency? I'd really like suggestions about that one. That said, as I look toward a future of making this at least marginally profitable, it's not profitable to send users their coins directly back- you might lose them as users. Rather if you keep them in cold storage, and once the kinks are worked out come back on line- the users might retain a trust in you that they might have otherwise lost in a moment of panic. Of course- I am not thinking only from a 'profit angle' so I wouldn't do something purely for profit reasons, but I'm trying to cover all angles.

I think there is a greater danger however, if the server is compromised in some way that a hacker might be able to play with the emergency addresses and trip the system themselves, and get the system itself to dump all the coins to the hacker. A cold storage system is much simpler, and has less vectors of attack. Indeed I am considering having an entirely offline pre-generated list of addresses for new users, so coins always go straight to the hotwallet, and we never keep more then a fraction of coins online. Even safer as the service never has a chance to accumulate more the whats in the hot-wallet.

I don't know what is more of a risk, the possibility of losing all of my coins to a server crash or to a hacker. It still just seems like a risk. I think it would be less likely to lose my coins saved on my computer.

Of course- this is always the issue with instawallets. This is one reason why I'm developing a BTC version of the wallet using TRC, it's the perfect dev currency.

At the same time though- you have to ask yourself, is an instawallet site doing as much as you are with your home computer to protect the coins? I would say that's a tough call. A lot of people are running their wallets on windows machines with pirated software/games/whatnot. Even my instawallet is just a linux distribution with nothing but the daemon and apache running. So who knows- do all users guard their wallets as well as all instawallets guard theirs? Definitely not. At the same time, when you're coins are at home, you can only spend them at home. If we make this a mobile currency, some compromises will have to be made somewhere.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 13, 2013, 02:09:50 PM
Thats an interesting idea. I've head some people don't like that system and I particularly have had trouble with it myself. What would be the advantage of it?
It's definitely been polarizing. Many people love using OpenID and just as many people have hated the exchanges use of it.

I think it's because OpenID doesn't seem to have once central, and easy to understand site that explains it. Everytime I use it I feel like there is no obvious source of answers for my questions and I'm redirected endlessly. That said, it's in the back of my mind.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: webosftw on February 13, 2013, 05:35:19 PM
would  it be possible to the stats and your balance refresh every 30 seconds or so? Because I have to click refresh to see if it sent + got any confirmations. It would be a cool little thing to add.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: Walter Rothbard on February 13, 2013, 07:57:03 PM
So for example computing TRC rate at the moment is rather difficult to do as the exchanges are small with small volume. :-(

Volume weighted 24 hours across both currently active exchanges would at least give a ballpark figure.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 13, 2013, 10:24:39 PM
would  it be possible to the stats and your balance refresh every 30 seconds or so? Because I have to click refresh to see if it sent + got any confirmations. It would be a cool little thing to add.

I'll have this added back in. :-) Although at this point I don't think 30 seconds is necessary, exchange support is rather low at the moment so it doesn't move that fast. 


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: webosftw on February 14, 2013, 01:26:56 AM
also when you click receive it displays a wrong address. It caps all letters.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on February 14, 2013, 07:04:38 AM
also when you click receive it displays a wrong address. It caps all letters.

GOOD CATCH! Totally missed that, you're 100% right! Thank you! Sending you some coins for that major oversight! :-)


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! New Design, Cold Storage! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 03, 2013, 11:40:24 AM
So a big update on the road to getting out of beta... Mobile support!

TerraWallet should now look great on your mobile device! Tablets still get the desktop version but mobile users should now have a clean, easy to read mobile site.

Let me know if you notice any errors!

www.terrawallet.com
Thanks!
The rabbit


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: CrownCloud on March 03, 2013, 02:49:38 PM
Hey Crazy_rabbit,

Neat site, just 1 thing (maybe a chrome related error / issue)
https://i.imgur.com/zHbnOkK.png

The BETA bar covers up the text / logo below it,

Here's a fix (I assume you use bootstrap)

Code:
    
<style>
      body {
        padding-top: 60px;
      }
</style>

Add that to the page and It'll add the spacing (padding) between the navbar and the content below.

Thanks !


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 03, 2013, 02:59:52 PM
Hey Crazy_rabbit,

Neat site, just 1 thing (maybe a chrome related error / issue)
https://i.imgur.com/zHbnOkK.png

The BETA bar covers up the text / logo below it,

Here's a fix (I assume you use bootstrap)

Code:
    
<style>
      body {
        padding-top: 60px;
      }
</style>

Add that to the page and It'll add the spacing (padding) between the navbar and the content below.

Thanks !

Thanks for the tip- I will fix that. It's actually from another service and if you click/hover over it, it should disappear. Thanks for pointing that out!


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: mrhell on March 03, 2013, 03:21:08 PM
This currency is premined or not?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 03, 2013, 05:03:36 PM
This currency is premined or not?

NO. TRC was NOT premined.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: BUYNEW on March 03, 2013, 05:21:25 PM
I dont trust Bitcoin clones


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 03, 2013, 05:31:15 PM
I dont trust Bitcoin clones


Why not? At least you know they are fair, opensource, not premined (in the case of TRC and PPC for example), and secure in their implementation. Whats not to trust?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 04, 2013, 02:17:33 PM
I'm considering expanding terrwallet to include other coins, and I was curious to see what people's reactions would be. I'm not yet committed to the idea as running an instawallet is actually rather expensive. You can't run on it on a VPS as it means your wallet.dat file isn't really secure from prying eyes. You need it on a server you control yourself to be sure.

Still, I'm curious to know how people are using/holding their alt coins.

the rabbit


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: SalvorHardin on March 04, 2013, 03:43:21 PM
I presume at the major exchange like BTC-e and Vircurex, which support multiple alt-cryptocurrency.  Though if you provide services like games and gambling at your wallet site, people will deposit nominal amount there just to try out the games.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 11, 2013, 06:16:47 AM
With the Terracoin profitability jumping up and down so much, don't forget you can play dice games directly from Terrawallet.com!

:-)


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: SalvorHardin on March 11, 2013, 12:20:42 PM
With the Terracoin profitability jumping up and down so much, don't forget you can play dice games directly from Terrawallet.com!

:-)

I hope whoever bought like 50,000 TRC today over at Vircurex is reading this.   ;)  Help support the TRC community.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: CryptoJunky on March 11, 2013, 02:51:02 PM
I just set up a wallet there. It's very well built, good work Crazy_Rabbit and thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 11, 2013, 03:51:05 PM
With the Terracoin profitability jumping up and down so much, don't forget you can play dice games directly from Terrawallet.com!

:-)

I hope whoever bought like 50,000 TRC today over at Vircurex is reading this.   ;)  Help support the TRC community.

+1 If you're sitting on lots of TRC- help out with the community! I've been giving mine away constantly. :-) But building things is even better!


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: CrownCloud on March 11, 2013, 04:50:17 PM
Hey Crazy_rabbit,

Neat site, just 1 thing (maybe a chrome related error / issue)
https://i.imgur.com/zHbnOkK.png

The BETA bar covers up the text / logo below it,

Here's a fix (I assume you use bootstrap)

Code:
    
<style>
      body {
        padding-top: 60px;
      }
</style>

Add that to the page and It'll add the spacing (padding) between the navbar and the content below.

Thanks !

Thanks for the tip- I will fix that. It's actually from another service and if you click/hover over it, it should disappear. Thanks for pointing that out!

Aah, hmm I could not close it before, not sure if thats a chrome related too, looks neat now :)


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 12, 2013, 01:22:04 PM
An update- the numer of coins on the server have gone up dramatically, and the cold-wallet has been turned on in the event someone hacks the server. The coin limit on the server is shared by all the users, so if you have trouble withdrawing, either hit the feedback tab on the right hand side of the page, or send me a PM and I'll try to refill as soon as I can. Refill's are manual at the moment as I haven't figured a way around someone possibly tricking the system. Automatic refills defeat the purpose of a cold-storage.

As more and more people come on the server, I'll be tuning this to see what works best.



Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: kooke on March 12, 2013, 04:57:58 PM
Hey rabbit I was testing your wallet and put 10 coins in there and then logged out. The screen refreshed and said my balance was something like 2650 coins!  :o Must be some sort of glitch.

Oh and when I tried withdrawing the coins it kept saying I don't have enough balance. It did work when I changed the amount to 9.9 coins but it was kind of confusing. I know it charges a fee to withdraw but I think it would be better if I could put the full balance and the it takes the fee off and tells me how much the fee was.

All in all, I must say I like it  :D


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: iamrickrock on March 12, 2013, 10:41:31 PM
I also spotted an issue with the conversion rate. It says  this in my status page "0.35456544 ($16) BALANCE". and we all know that .35 Terrcoins is not $16 (wish it were!)


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 12, 2013, 11:11:13 PM
Hey rabbit I was testing your wallet and put 10 coins in there and then logged out. The screen refreshed and said my balance was something like 2650 coins!  :o Must be some sort of glitch.

Oh and when I tried withdrawing the coins it kept saying I don't have enough balance. It did work when I changed the amount to 9.9 coins but it was kind of confusing. I know it charges a fee to withdraw but I think it would be better if I could put the full balance and the it takes the fee off and tells me how much the fee was.

All in all, I must say I like it  :D

Whoa that's a weird glitch! Any more detail you could give me?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 12, 2013, 11:11:40 PM
I also spotted an issue with the conversion rate. It says  this in my status page "0.35456544 ($16) BALANCE". and we all know that .35 Terrcoins is not $16 (wish it were!)

Oh yeah, I'm working on that. It's based on BTC, but it should be fixed. Will get to it!


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: kooke on March 13, 2013, 01:23:49 AM
Whoa that's a weird glitch! Any more detail you could give me?

The exact amount was actually 2983. I took a screenshot of it:

https://i.imgur.com/Q70wQlm.jpg

After I logged out the page refreshed on it's own and displayed that. When I logged in again it showed the actual amount I have.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 13, 2013, 01:37:31 AM
Whoa that's a weird glitch! Any more detail you could give me?

The exact amount was actually 2983. I took a screenshot of it:

https://i.imgur.com/Q70wQlm.jpg

After I logged out the page refreshed on it's own and displayed that. When I logged in again it showed the actual amount I have.


Will talk to the dev!
the rabbit


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: SalvorHardin on March 13, 2013, 02:05:33 AM
Whoa that's a weird glitch! Any more detail you could give me?

The exact amount was actually 2983. I took a screenshot of it:

https://i.imgur.com/Q70wQlm.jpg

After I logged out the page refreshed on it's own and displayed that. When I logged in again it showed the actual amount I have.


wow, a rich man.   ;)

But note that (2983) is actually in BTC with BTC/USD ($43.79) exchange rate, and not in TRC.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: kooke on March 13, 2013, 03:27:04 AM
Yeah I guess the site is using a BTC API instead of TRC. Also another suggestion: You should ask to re-enter the password when signing up, since people using a strong password are more likely to make a mistake entering it   :-[


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: Walter Rothbard on March 13, 2013, 07:00:51 PM
Yeah I guess the site is using a BTC API instead of TRC. Also another suggestion: You should ask to re-enter the password when signing up, since people using a strong password are more likely to make a mistake entering it   :-[

I somehow missed noticing that when I signed up.  Yes, entering the password twice ought to be a requirement.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: webosftw on March 13, 2013, 07:14:52 PM
A terrawallet app would also be cool =]


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: romerun on March 14, 2013, 04:38:45 AM
not https ?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 14, 2013, 06:14:42 AM
not https ?

Oh that's in the works! Step by step!

EDIT: I see the value of TRC rising and RISING. Don't forget the terrwallet is still BETA so don't put ever coin you ever mined on it!!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - {Service interruption for upgrades}
Post by: crazy_rabbit on March 29, 2013, 09:09:44 AM
The Terrawallet will be down for Upgrades from later today (new Terracoin upgrades). I hope I'll have it back up quickly, but perhaps due to the easter holiday it will take a little longer.



Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on April 05, 2013, 06:10:13 AM
Terrawallet is up, but I am reducing the size of the hot wallet even further given the recent meteoric price rise.

That said the disclaimer still applies- be careful with your TRC. Even the best instwallets get hacked (instawallet) and Terrawallet is no different. Only keep the coins on the server that you could afford to lose- be it from theft, negligence or otherwise!



Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on April 10, 2013, 07:57:13 AM
We are down again until the new Software gets updated- sorry for the interruptions, I'm just not always available to do the update as quick as I would like.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on April 10, 2013, 09:56:56 PM
The Terrawallet has been updated after much effort, all the coins are there.

I *highly* recommend that users withdraw any non-trival balances that are left on the server. I am refilling the hotwallet as we speak, so you should have no problems getting your coins.

I'm having trouble keeping up with the releases and there is a very real worry of getting caught on a fork. Everything is fine currently I have had the wallet off so users did not move funds, but it's a real worry.

Hopefully things with TRC get sorted out. Sorry to everyone that it's been such a rough ride.

(That said I am NOT the DEV!)

NOTE: I guess withdrawing your coins has to be your call. I realize the last time people did a bunch of panic withdrawls in the middle of the slowdown they got stuck in the lurch for a long time. I can't make any promises which way it's going to go.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Withdraw your coins as a Precaution! - Still BETA!!
Post by: Walter Rothbard on April 10, 2013, 11:23:51 PM
Thanks, Rabbit!


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Withdraw your coins as a Precaution! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on April 11, 2013, 09:57:33 AM
There are not many coins left on the server- if you are a terrawallet user, please withdraw them.

I am still having some problems- but I'm not entirely sure what. From what I could tell either I was running out of memory, on a fork, or something else. I've reinstalled the terracoind and it seems to be working again, but I'm on a much larger server to see if it's a memory thing and it's expensive to run, so please, take your coins.  :-)

Plan going forward: (don't quote me on this- I could always change my mind)

My plan going forward it to open source the core of Terrawallet. It's based on Open Source code so it's time to go back to the community. A lot of people have asked about this- so I think the time has come. It has been specifically designed to handle multiple currencies easily- so TRC, BTC, LTC, and even multiple LANGUAGES. So if nothing else, I think the alt community will really benefit from it.


EDIT: looks like some bigger problem with terracoin itself (Related: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173283.0 ???). The wallet is stuck on block 101632, which is crazy far behind. It is updated to the latest version as well so I don't know. I hope all have withdrawn what they could, there are still a (very) few coins left on the wallet but they might not be salvageable. Although to be fair, one wonders if TRC is salvageable .  ???

Still looking into it.

EDIT: I'm closing Terrawallet for now. We're on a fork of some sort as far as I can tell. Sorry to anyone who might have some coins left, but it would be very few as almost everything has been withdrawn. If it makes anyone feel better, it looks like Terracoin has some much bigger problems on it's hands at the moment anyway.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Site now closed! Code to be open sourced!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on April 12, 2013, 03:23:56 PM
The Terrawallet is now closed!

In the end it seemed we were indeed on a fork of the terracoin chain after the mandatory updates wasn't applied properly/correctly/intime by myself. Sorry about that.

That said there were hardly any coins left on the server, so hopefully no one feels bad. That said, getting them out now wouldn't make any sense anyway as we're not on the main Terracoin Chain anymore and just restarting with the new software on the old wallet.dat is a problem because I don't know how many coins were sent out while still on the wrong chain- so the balances will be all messed up.

I will soon enough be open sourcing the core of the wallet, and probably putting the site itself up for either a) sale or b)using it as a resource for Terracoin information- depending on how things go.

First I have to talk to the developer about how to properly 'sanitise' the code itself. Remove private info, etc... So stay tuned!

the rabbit


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Big update! Mobile site! - Still BETA!!
Post by: jubalix on April 12, 2013, 04:54:58 PM
The Terrawallet has been updated after much effort, all the coins are there.

I *highly* recommend that users withdraw any non-trival balances that are left on the server. I am refilling the hotwallet as we speak, so you should have no problems getting your coins.

I'm having trouble keeping up with the releases and there is a very real worry of getting caught on a fork. Everything is fine currently I have had the wallet off so users did not move funds, but it's a real worry.

Hopefully things with TRC get sorted out. Sorry to everyone that it's been such a rough ride.

(That said I am NOT the DEV!)

NOTE: I guess withdrawing your coins has to be your call. I realize the last time people did a bunch of panic withdrawls in the middle of the slowdown they got stuck in the lurch for a long time. I can't make any promises which way it's going to go.

CR I just saw this thread

I have TRC there and cant get them out???? what gives how do I get them????

so I can see that you cleared out transactions to

16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA

and it still has a balance of 82 TRC

http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA

SO that is definitely available to you as a refund for my outstanding amount

then there is the remaining 408 TRC

Even If I wanted to get the coins, they were in cold storage it seems...(as your safety mechanism)

I mean, I can't even withdraw them if as they seem to be locked up again???


And this does not make sense you just use the private key and you will have access to all the coins on the real blockchain as they were

you go to the debug console in the TRC client and enter it and it rebuild your whole acount .... so all the coins are still there at that point there. It does not matter that you did a whole load of things on a forked block chain

I know your not a technical guy, ask the TRC dev or me...or if you really beleive there is no value, send me the public address of the TRC wallet, I can look at it in the TRC block explorer and see, and get it out with the PRIV key

what you saying makes no sense whats going one here????



Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Withdraw your coins as a Precaution! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on April 12, 2013, 05:38:30 PM
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the way I understand it is this:

Wallet is on a fork. The coins that are received on each address are then put into the SHARED wallet of the site. These coins then get mixed with all the other users coins. So when for example coins are sent out from your account, they are not sent from only your address, they are collected from all the addresses on the server. So you  might deposit on your address, but when you withdraw- it comes from any combination of addresses. Hence the idea that in an instawallet you don't own your private key.

With the terrawallet you also have Instacodes- which allows users to transfer their balances from one account to someone else's account. These transactions do not occur on the blockchain, thus if you put 100 TRC on your "address", and then send 100 TRC to another account with an instacode, no coins actually move with the private key of that address. Instead the balance is just moved. Additionally, the cold wallet sends coins automatically off the server to a different wallet entirely, not all the coins but only partially.

I am unable to determine accurately when we started being on the fork, and what transactions took place while being on the fork (indeed perhaps even which fork! As the software was updated multiple times due to errors) including instacodes and thus the remaining balances. If anyone else has problems, contact me and I will see what I can do.







Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Withdraw your coins as a Precaution! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on April 12, 2013, 05:42:01 PM
Is someone honestly trying to DDOS the wallet right now? Seriously? Any coins that are left you can't get out anyway!.

EDIT: have to leave the house for awhile so I won't be able to respond if someone asks something urgent.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Withdraw your coins as a Precaution! - Still BETA!!
Post by: jubalix on April 12, 2013, 06:05:04 PM
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the way I understand it is this:

Wallet is on a fork. The coins that are received on each address are then put into the SHARED wallet of the site. These coins then get mixed with all the other users coins. So when for example coins are sent out from your account, they are not sent from only your address, they are collected from all the addresses on the server. So you  might deposit on your address, but when you withdraw- it comes from any combination of addresses. Hence the idea that in an instawallet you don't own your private key.

With the terrawallet you also have Instacodes- which allows users to transfer their balances from one account to someone else's account. These transactions do not occur on the blockchain, thus if you put 100 TRC on your "address", and then send 100 TRC to another account with an instacode, no coins actually move with the private key of that address. Instead the balance is just moved. Additionally, the cold wallet sends coins automatically off the server to a different wallet entirely, not all the coins but only partially.

I am unable to determine accurately when we started being on the fork, and what transactions took place while being on the fork (indeed perhaps even which fork! As the software was updated multiple times due to errors) including instacodes and thus the remaining balances. If anyone else has problems, contact me and I will see what I can do.



No THIS is not how block chains or forks of block chains work


wallets do not Fork just for a start IT IS IRRELEVANT WHEN THE FORK TOOK PLACE, Or that a Fork even took place.

Collect all you addresses for cold and hot storage, and list them here, then we can see what balance is there on the real block chain,

DO NOT DELETE ANY PRIVATE KEY OR ADDRESS YOU HAVE

for instance I can see 82 TRC on


http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA (http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA)

and this was the address you were clearing wallets to as my wallet was completely cleared including to that address, but not by me

You can then get access to them by using the debug console of any TRC client

All that happens to the Forked block chain is eventually those are new coins that people may or may not chose to reconise.


All the original coins on the accepted Block Chain all still exist.


Your description on what happened does not make sense....no one could be withdrawing to a legitimate chain from the forked chain...if you were running that some how Further I read through your links and it appears there was no "fork" or 51% attack

In any even every coin is preserved in the real blockchain!!!

I need mine back, and your holding the private keys









Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Withdraw your coins as a Precaution! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on April 12, 2013, 07:37:42 PM
I wi
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the way I understand it is this:

Wallet is on a fork. The coins that are received on each address are then put into the SHARED wallet of the site. These coins then get mixed with all the other users coins. So when for example coins are sent out from your account, they are not sent from only your address, they are collected from all the addresses on the server. So you  might deposit on your address, but when you withdraw- it comes from any combination of addresses. Hence the idea that in an instawallet you don't own your private key.

With the terrawallet you also have Instacodes- which allows users to transfer their balances from one account to someone else's account. These transactions do not occur on the blockchain, thus if you put 100 TRC on your "address", and then send 100 TRC to another account with an instacode, no coins actually move with the private key of that address. Instead the balance is just moved. Additionally, the cold wallet sends coins automatically off the server to a different wallet entirely, not all the coins but only partially.

I am unable to determine accurately when we started being on the fork, and what transactions took place while being on the fork (indeed perhaps even which fork! As the software was updated multiple times due to errors) including instacodes and thus the remaining balances. If anyone else has problems, contact me and I will see what I can do.



No THIS is not how block chains or forks of block chains work


wallets do not Fork just for a start IT IS IRRELEVANT WHEN THE FORK TOOK PLACE, Or that a Fork even took place.

Collect all you addresses for cold and hot storage, and list them here, then we can see what balance is there on the real block chain,

DO NOT DELETE ANY PRIVATE KEY OR ADDRESS YOU HAVE

for instance I can see 82 TRC on


http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA (http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA)

and this was the address you were clearing wallets to as my wallet was completely cleared including to that address, but not by me

You can then get access to them by using the debug console of any TRC client

All that happens to the Forked block chain is eventually those are new coins that people may or may not chose to reconise.


All the original coins on the accepted Block Chain all still exist.


Your description on what happened does not make sense....no one could be withdrawing to a legitimate chain from the forked chain...if you were running that some how Further I read through your links and it appears there was no "fork" or 51% attack

In any even every coin is preserved in the real blockchain!!!

I need mine back, and your holding the private keys








l will sort this out but your missing the point about how shared wallets work. You deposit coins on your address, an the wallet keeps track of your wallet, however when you SEND coins they can come from any address on the wallet- the dont come just from yours. Hence you can't play games like satoshi dice with a special transaction. Because your coins are tracked by a database, NOT by the blockchain. All instawallets and all exchanges, you can not track your balance by the blockchain. Will some else please chime in here to help explain what I mean? Your coins are not keep on a private key. Hence you can't check your deposit address at btce or gox with the blockchain to discover your balance. Try it- you will see I am right.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Withdraw your coins as a Precaution! - Still BETA!!
Post by: Walter Rothbard on April 12, 2013, 07:47:17 PM
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the way I understand it is this:

Wallet is on a fork. The coins that are received on each address are then put into the SHARED wallet of the site. These coins then get mixed with all the other users coins. So when for example coins are sent out from your account, they are not sent from only your address, they are collected from all the addresses on the server. So you  might deposit on your address, but when you withdraw- it comes from any combination of addresses. Hence the idea that in an instawallet you don't own your private key.

With the terrawallet you also have Instacodes- which allows users to transfer their balances from one account to someone else's account. These transactions do not occur on the blockchain, thus if you put 100 TRC on your "address", and then send 100 TRC to another account with an instacode, no coins actually move with the private key of that address. Instead the balance is just moved. Additionally, the cold wallet sends coins automatically off the server to a different wallet entirely, not all the coins but only partially.

I am unable to determine accurately when we started being on the fork, and what transactions took place while being on the fork (indeed perhaps even which fork! As the software was updated multiple times due to errors) including instacodes and thus the remaining balances. If anyone else has problems, contact me and I will see what I can do.

I would suggest that if possible, any blockchain transactions the wallet transacted on one fork should be repeated on any other extant forks.

I don't have any coins in the wallet; just suggesting how to handle the fork.

I concur that the keys and addresses in most wallets don't map to users.  This is how coinbase works, essentially, if you dig closely into where you transactions come from and go to.  This is also how vircurex and most exchanges work.  You may deposit into a particular address, but the addresses as a whole are managed by the wallet institution.  When you send funds, they might send from anywhere (the particular address you deposited to might be cold storage, for example).

It's like depositing dollars on account in a bank.  One inside the walls of the institution, your funds are mixed up with all other funds.  Your ownership is no longer tied to particular dollar serial numbers; instead, your ownership is simply recorded in a database.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Withdraw your coins as a Precaution! - Still BETA!!
Post by: jubalix on April 12, 2013, 11:38:48 PM
I wi
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the way I understand it is this:

Wallet is on a fork. The coins that are received on each address are then put into the SHARED wallet of the site. These coins then get mixed with all the other users coins. So when for example coins are sent out from your account, they are not sent from only your address, they are collected from all the addresses on the server. So you  might deposit on your address, but when you withdraw- it comes from any combination of addresses. Hence the idea that in an instawallet you don't own your private key.

With the terrawallet you also have Instacodes- which allows users to transfer their balances from one account to someone else's account. These transactions do not occur on the blockchain, thus if you put 100 TRC on your "address", and then send 100 TRC to another account with an instacode, no coins actually move with the private key of that address. Instead the balance is just moved. Additionally, the cold wallet sends coins automatically off the server to a different wallet entirely, not all the coins but only partially.

I am unable to determine accurately when we started being on the fork, and what transactions took place while being on the fork (indeed perhaps even which fork! As the software was updated multiple times due to errors) including instacodes and thus the remaining balances. If anyone else has problems, contact me and I will see what I can do.

But I can see exactly where you cleared the TRC to, using he TRC block chain eplorer



No THIS is not how block chains or forks of block chains work


wallets do not Fork just for a start IT IS IRRELEVANT WHEN THE FORK TOOK PLACE, Or that a Fork even took place.

Collect all you addresses for cold and hot storage, and list them here, then we can see what balance is there on the real block chain,

DO NOT DELETE ANY PRIVATE KEY OR ADDRESS YOU HAVE

for instance I can see 82 TRC on


http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA (http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA)

and this was the address you were clearing wallets to as my wallet was completely cleared including to that address, but not by me

You can then get access to them by using the debug console of any TRC client

All that happens to the Forked block chain is eventually those are new coins that people may or may not chose to reconise.


All the original coins on the accepted Block Chain all still exist.


Your description on what happened does not make sense....no one could be withdrawing to a legitimate chain from the forked chain...if you were running that some how Further I read through your links and it appears there was no "fork" or 51% attack

In any even every coin is preserved in the real blockchain!!!

I need mine back, and your holding the private keys








l will sort this out but your missing the point about how shared wallets work. You deposit coins on your address, an the wallet keeps track of your wallet, however when you SEND coins they can come from any address on the wallet- the dont come just from yours. Hence you can't play games like satoshi dice with a special transaction. Because your coins are tracked by a database, NOT by the blockchain. All instawallets and all exchanges, you can not track your balance by the blockchain. Will some else please chime in here to help explain what I mean? Your coins are not keep on a private key. Hence you can't check your deposit address at btce or gox with the blockchain to discover your balance. Try it- you will see I am right.


But I can see exactly where the TRC was cleared, to, and you then say that the TRC are stuck on a Forked chain.

They are not, when you fork a chain, You clone all the coins but as no one else support the chain, they do not accept the cloned coins on that chain

On the real chain you can still see all the address and and the amounts they contain.

Let me put it this way,

[1] You claim there was a negligible amount of TRC left anyway

[2] In your sell wallet thread you are going to delete all the data, keys private infor etc

[3] SO give me all the private keys to this "negligible amount" I will even pay you 100 TRC for the private keys to the neglible amount and let me sort this out because I can see how much TRC is there right now.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Withdraw your coins as a Precaution! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on April 13, 2013, 07:14:01 AM
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the way I understand it is this:

Wallet is on a fork. The coins that are received on each address are then put into the SHARED wallet of the site. These coins then get mixed with all the other users coins. So when for example coins are sent out from your account, they are not sent from only your address, they are collected from all the addresses on the server. So you  might deposit on your address, but when you withdraw- it comes from any combination of addresses. Hence the idea that in an instawallet you don't own your private key.

With the terrawallet you also have Instacodes- which allows users to transfer their balances from one account to someone else's account. These transactions do not occur on the blockchain, thus if you put 100 TRC on your "address", and then send 100 TRC to another account with an instacode, no coins actually move with the private key of that address. Instead the balance is just moved. Additionally, the cold wallet sends coins automatically off the server to a different wallet entirely, not all the coins but only partially.

I am unable to determine accurately when we started being on the fork, and what transactions took place while being on the fork (indeed perhaps even which fork! As the software was updated multiple times due to errors) including instacodes and thus the remaining balances. If anyone else has problems, contact me and I will see what I can do.

But I can see exactly where you cleared the TRC to, using he TRC block chain eplorer



No THIS is not how block chains or forks of block chains work


wallets do not Fork just for a start IT IS IRRELEVANT WHEN THE FORK TOOK PLACE, Or that a Fork even took place.

Collect all you addresses for cold and hot storage, and list them here, then we can see what balance is there on the real block chain,

DO NOT DELETE ANY PRIVATE KEY OR ADDRESS YOU HAVE

for instance I can see 82 TRC on


http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA (http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA)

and this was the address you were clearing wallets to as my wallet was completely cleared including to that address, but not by me

You can then get access to them by using the debug console of any TRC client

All that happens to the Forked block chain is eventually those are new coins that people may or may not chose to reconise.


All the original coins on the accepted Block Chain all still exist.


Your description on what happened does not make sense....no one could be withdrawing to a legitimate chain from the forked chain...if you were running that some how Further I read through your links and it appears there was no "fork" or 51% attack

In any even every coin is preserved in the real blockchain!!!

I need mine back, and your holding the private keys








l will sort this out but your missing the point about how shared wallets work. You deposit coins on your address, an the wallet keeps track of your wallet, however when you SEND coins they can come from any address on the wallet- the dont come just from yours. Hence you can't play games like satoshi dice with a special transaction. Because your coins are tracked by a database, NOT by the blockchain. All instawallets and all exchanges, you can not track your balance by the blockchain. Will some else please chime in here to help explain what I mean? Your coins are not keep on a private key. Hence you can't check your deposit address at btce or gox with the blockchain to discover your balance. Try it- you will see I am right.


But I can see exactly where the TRC was cleared, to, and you then say that the TRC are stuck on a Forked chain.

They are not, when you fork a chain, You clone all the coins but as no one else support the chain, they do not accept the cloned coins on that chain

On the real chain you can still see all the address and and the amounts they contain.

Let me put it this way,

[1] You claim there was a negligible amount of TRC left anyway

[2] In your sell wallet thread you are going to delete all the data, keys private infor etc

[3] SO give me all the private keys to this "negligible amount" I will even pay you 100 TRC for the private keys to the neglible amount and let me sort this out because I can see how much TRC is there right now.

You don't need to send pay me 100TRC, I will settle this with you jubalix. But understand this- your TRC was not "cleared" to any address. You are missing the point. Any other user could have withdrawn the TRC on your "address" because the wallet is shared. Walters example of the bank is the best example- all the coins get mixed together, it's not tracked by your address. 

Imagine before the fork users deposit 100 dollars in the bank, and the bank database says "100 dollars". Then during the fork a users deposits another 100 dollars and the bank adds 100 coins to this users balance. Now the bank has 200 dollars total. Then I upgrade the bank after the fork- the 100 dollars that was deposited durring the fork disappears. Now there is only 100 dollars in the bank, but in the database it shows I have 200 dollars. But I don't know who deposited durring the fork, so I don't know who's balance to deduct 100 dollars from. All i see is a database that shows 200 dollars and a wallet that shows 100 dollars. Any exchange would have the same problem.

The only 'instant wallet' that would not have a problem is one like blockchain- which are not instawallets at all, it's a client side decrypted version of an individual wallet- meaning yes, after a fork, your coins would all be still there.

Please don't be mad, I will settle this with you today, and if you have any more questions, please PM me and I will respond to everything.

For anyone else- this sort of situation is exactly why the site had listed everywhere that it was beta and you could lose coins for any reason- my own stupidity included. Indeed in the end the problem had nothing to do with the wallet at all- a fork was beyond my control as I was unable to update the software fast enough. I'm a huge TRC fan but there is even yet *another* mandatory update right now out. The reason I'm open sourcing the software, or selling it if someones interested, is because I dont' have time to keep with these sort of mandatory updates and I'm not interested in the responsibility of holding something more valuable like BTC or LTC. Too much stress.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Withdraw your coins as a Precaution! - Still BETA!!
Post by: crazy_rabbit on April 16, 2013, 03:10:49 PM
I wanted to do an update as another user has come forward to ask about coins.

The wallet is closed and will not reopen. For a combination of reasons that were described in this thread and another by Jubalix, I have mismanaged the service and your coins are lost. At some point during upgrading the database balance no longer reflected the actual server balance and a user or users withdrew more coins then they really had on balance.  I assume this was inadvertent as some users may have deposited while the wallet was on one chain, and withdrew while on another. The software was not final version- nor anywhere close and many things had not been taken care of yet.

That said, there are a number of things I am unhappy about that I believe lead to this, however they have been spoken about numerous times in other threads.

To the users who have written thoughtfully to ask for questions or details, I believe I have have written you each back. To those who have written rather nasty messages even before I announced the closure to complain with vulgar language: I probably won't write you back.

I must stress that all users were warned clearly on every page of the site that it was Beta and that there was a very real possibility of losing your coins. I regret that this has happened but I must stress the warning listed on every page:
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"Do not lose your password- it can not be reset! As the Value of TRC rises on the exchange we must say again- this is BETA and with no warrenty! Also, don't store more coins then you can afford to lose- this site is still yet BETA and we won't take any responsbility for hacks, intrusions, coding errors or negligence! Don't be stupid. If you think it's real money, treat it like it's real money, and store it in a paper wallet! You can make one here: www.terrawallet.info"

I will be posting the source code for the wallet soon.


 


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - CLOSED -
Post by: Walter Rothbard on April 16, 2013, 04:32:25 PM
Thanks for the service, Rabbit!  I actually used Terrawallet.com before I even had the Terracoin client running locally. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - CLOSED -
Post by: webosftw on April 16, 2013, 05:15:01 PM
Thanks for the service, Rabbit!  I actually used Terrawallet.com before I even had the Terracoin client running locally. :)
This. Really hate seeing it get closed down. :(


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - CLOSED -
Post by: Walter Rothbard on April 16, 2013, 05:18:02 PM
Thanks for the service, Rabbit!  I actually used Terrawallet.com before I even had the Terracoin client running locally. :)
This. Really hate seeing it get closed down. :(

It or something like it might reemerge from the market.

But if so, it won't be run by anybody as nice as Rabbit, will it?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - CLOSED -
Post by: crazy_rabbit on April 16, 2013, 06:03:34 PM
The core will be open sourced so anyone else can build something like it. It was great while terracoin wasn't real money. Thank god I didn't run into these problems when TRC was worth $1 each or something. When the source is checked, I'll release it for download.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - CLOSED -
Post by: kooke on April 16, 2013, 08:27:50 PM
aww I had 100 TRC on there  :'(


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - Withdraw your coins as a Precaution! - Still BETA!!
Post by: ZephramC on April 16, 2013, 11:22:58 PM
I wanted to do an update as another user has come forward to ask about coins.

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I must stress that all users were warned clearly on every page of the site that it was Beta and that there was a very real possibility of losing your coins. I regret that this has happened but I must stress the warning listed on every page:
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"Do not lose your password- it can not be reset! As the Value of TRC rises on the exchange we must say again- this is BETA and with no warrenty! Also, don't store more coins then you can afford to lose- this site is still yet BETA and we won't take any responsbility for hacks, intrusions, coding errors or negligence! Don't be stupid. If you think it's real money, treat it like it's real money, and store it in a paper wallet! You can make one here: www.terrawallet.info"

I will be posting the source code for the wallet soon.


 

Well. It looks that I should be more careful next time and take the warnings seriously :-[. Deset korun v háji.


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - CLOSED -
Post by: webosftw on May 08, 2013, 06:00:30 PM
So when will you be releasing the source? Are you still planning on releasing it?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - CLOSED -
Post by: Walter Rothbard on May 08, 2013, 06:21:25 PM
Any plans for a testnet wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - CLOSED -
Post by: webosftw on May 10, 2013, 07:06:14 PM
@crazy_rabbit any news?


Title: Re: [ANN] www.terrawallet.com - CLOSED -
Post by: MoneypakTrader.com on July 21, 2013, 05:16:16 PM
@crazy_rabbit any news?

Ditto, there's people who want to see just how crappy TradeFortress' web-dev is.