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Title: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: irfan_pak10 on February 13, 2016, 10:28:30 AM
Please Do not trade at Paxful they are scammers

Yesterday I made a Deal on Paxful for the First time, with someone and Successfully traded .16BTC, But today When I tried to loggin into my account, Im Shocked because the balance is .00. I saw .16 btc cashout

Sent to 1Bzb8RrpDZd8fTMj7Ur2fViJA8623JpQau
Transaction id: a0caa96e84c566f7a01ffe833d05e44956a7b22ae784731f9a94a47b9cb52012

https://i.imgur.com/6PMMFq3.png

Address input: https://blockchain.info/address/1eqt4HM3GYBWtZkBjio2d19afNsS64CRT

There are many small inputs in this address including mine





Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: --Encrypted-- on February 13, 2016, 10:30:57 AM
so you logged in to see your funds transferred? you sure that your account didn't get hacked?


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: wayniac30 on February 13, 2016, 10:43:44 AM
I think your account might have been hacked mate... maybe a trojan or password stealer on your PC? Do you have password auto fill on?


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: irfan_pak10 on February 13, 2016, 10:47:11 AM
so you logged in to see your funds transferred? you sure that your account didn't get hacked?

No I never get any Notification from the site at my email. I dont know about my account is hacked or not. But I can see there are too many countries in my logged in history. Its even not possible. I have account on other site too, but this type of thing never seen.

https://i.imgur.com/tb90Awu.png


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: wayniac30 on February 13, 2016, 10:50:34 AM
so you logged in to see your funds transferred? you sure that your account didn't get hacked?

No I never get any Notification from the site at my email. I dont know about my account is hacked or not. But I can see there are too many countries in my logged in history. Its even not possible. I have account on other site too, but this type of thing never seen.

https://i.imgur.com/tb90Awu.png

I think your user:pass or email:pass combo is public... i advice you to change all your passwords


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: --Encrypted-- on February 13, 2016, 11:08:53 AM
-snip- i advice you to change all your passwords -snip-

yeah but after you scan your PC for any malwares.
that's an awful lot of different IPs though. could be from one person who uses multiple proxies.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on February 13, 2016, 11:23:13 AM
So sorry to hear that. But always use 2FA if the website allows, plus 2FA in your email for confirmations(google has it via SMS), plus a general code sent to your email every time you login the site. All the mentioned are available in Localbitcoins, don't know in Paxful. Security is never enough when it comes to guarding your precious coins. If I were you i would format my PC if I have the chance and have not installed any wallet in my PC (although many of desktop wallets allow you to recover funds via seeds or private keys). Wishing you the best.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: enhu on February 13, 2016, 11:46:58 AM
so you logged in to see your funds transferred? you sure that your account didn't get hacked?

No I never get any Notification from the site at my email. I dont know about my account is hacked or not. But I can see there are too many countries in my logged in history. Its even not possible. I have account on other site too, but this type of thing never seen.

https://i.imgur.com/tb90Awu.png

Sorry for your loss. it isn't a good idea to make passwords password  ;D but even so 2FA should still prevent it from happening. why did a hacker loggedin a number of times, they coould  be from pax themselves.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: james.lent on February 13, 2016, 11:51:33 AM
If you've logged in via tor then maybe that could be a reason, else maybe your login info is already public so many tried to login and when they see no balance they log out and maybe one of them might have got lucky. Head over to https://haveibeenpwned.com/ (https://haveibeenpwned.com/) and you will know if your info is public.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: paxful_bitcoin on February 13, 2016, 07:39:52 PM
Very sorry this happened :-[
Right now constant phishing attempts are ongoing where username is scraped and @gmail.com appended and email sent out. We really wish we could stop these phishing attempts. I strongly suggest you to enable 2-fa.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: irfan_pak10 on February 13, 2016, 07:48:21 PM
Very sorry this happened :-[
Right now constant phishing attempts are ongoing where username is scraped and @gmail.com appended and email sent out. We really wish we could stop these phishing attempts. I strongly suggest you to enable 2-fa.

Here are my last Email from paxful. there is No Phishing email. Nor I open paxful from these email, I Know there may be some phishing email

I dont think there is any phishing email
https://i.imgur.com/x157Gj2.png


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: Dorrittulx on February 13, 2016, 07:50:25 PM
It's not a scam. It's just COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

This happened to me too, your cashout got mixed up with someone else's and your balance it now 0. Contact support.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: irfan_pak10 on February 13, 2016, 07:54:27 PM
It's not a scam. It's just COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

This happened to me too, your cashout got mixed up with someone else's and your balance it now 0. Contact support.

I already emailed, and Also Support is online here too.
___________
Secondly why the address have too many Transaction input at a time including mine? Thats why it looks phishy to me

Sent to 1Bzb8RrpDZd8fTMj7Ur2fViJA8623JpQau
Transaction id: a0caa96e84c566f7a01ffe833d05e44956a7b22ae784731f9a94a47b9cb52012


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: Dorrittulx on February 13, 2016, 07:55:14 PM
It's not a scam. It's just COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

This happened to me too, your cashout got mixed up with someone else's and your balance it now 0. Contact support.

I already emailed, and Also Support is online here too.
___________
Secondly why the address have too many Transaction input at a time including mine? Thats why it looks phishy to me

Sent to 1Bzb8RrpDZd8fTMj7Ur2fViJA8623JpQau
Transaction id: a0caa96e84c566f7a01ffe833d05e44956a7b22ae784731f9a94a47b9cb52012

No, go here:

https://talk.paxful.com/

Login and post a new thread with caps xD


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: irfan_pak10 on February 14, 2016, 11:05:46 AM
After seeing these two Replies, I dont think that my account is compromised, they sent my BTC somewhere, And Now Not replying me,

It's not a scam. It's just COMPLETE BULLSHIT!

This happened to me too, your cashout got mixed up with someone else's and your balance it now 0. Contact support.

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Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: kotwica666 on February 14, 2016, 06:37:44 PM
so you logged in to see your funds transferred? you sure that your account didn't get hacked?

No I never get any Notification from the site at my email. I dont know about my account is hacked or not. But I can see there are too many countries in my logged in history. Its even not possible. I have account on other site too, but this type of thing never seen.

https://i.imgur.com/tb90Awu.png

How did you check who is logging to your account? Is any option on PaxFul to check that? I can't find that..  ::)


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: mnightwaffle on February 15, 2016, 12:04:27 AM
ou check who is logging to your account? Is any option on PaxFul to check that? I can't find that..  ::)

Settings -> Security (on the left) -> scroll all the way down


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: GregH37 on April 16, 2016, 04:28:50 AM
I wonder why people still using  Paxful , when most of people here have claimed that it is a Scam
and Ponzi site.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: opticbit on August 22, 2016, 12:04:25 AM
I have not had any problems with the site.

some of the users are problematic.

make sure your 2fa is set up.

go into the settings and adjust the notifications.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: irfan_pak10 on August 22, 2016, 06:07:42 AM
I have not had any problems with the site.

some of the users are problematic.

make sure your 2fa is set up.

go into the settings and adjust the notifications.

So you are here to defend paxful. Why we need 2FA code if we have a strong password? Why these all the scam accusations are almost same that they withdraw their BTC? because it someone in the team steal those info and withdraw the btc no doubt.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: emersonlogan62 on August 22, 2016, 10:39:33 AM
paxfull never refund my fees if a deal is not completed.I escrow my btc for neteller but the buyer failed to complete the deal.after the i get refund in my wallet but deducting fees.this is happened several times,however this is not my fault.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: codehtcmail on August 25, 2016, 07:45:19 AM
You just don't know what you are talking about, if true show some proof.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: camelson on August 26, 2016, 04:44:09 PM
You just don't know what you are talking about, if true show some proof.

To whom you are talking? OP? if yes than cant you see proofs in the OP? He did already posted the proofs and also you can see other few scam accusation here given by few people. Just write Paxful in the search box and you will be amazed.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: emersonlogan62 on August 26, 2016, 09:36:12 PM
You just don't know what you are talking about, if true show some proof.
some people are just blind  ;D read the op and see the proof


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: codehtcmail on August 27, 2016, 07:19:40 PM
Account hacked is not a scam, see the different IP logged into his account, unless he is sharing his account with lots of friends from all over the world.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: satmas on August 27, 2016, 07:26:51 PM
I wonder why people still using  Paxful , when most of people here have claimed that it is a Scam
and Ponzi site.
Why the fuck do people claim that Paxful is a ponzi? You don't actually invest in Paxful....


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: satmas on August 27, 2016, 07:28:16 PM
I have not had any problems with the site.

some of the users are problematic.

make sure your 2fa is set up.

go into the settings and adjust the notifications.

So you are here to defend paxful. Why we need 2FA code if we have a strong password? Why these all the scam accusations are almost same that they withdraw their BTC? because it someone in the team steal those info and withdraw the btc no doubt.
So you say you have a strong password so you don't need 2FA eh? What happens if you get malware huh?


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: irfan_pak10 on August 29, 2016, 04:45:44 PM
I wonder why people still using  Paxful , when most of people here have claimed that it is a Scam
and Ponzi site.
Why the fuck do people claim that Paxful is a ponzi? You don't actually invest in Paxful....

And those who use/ use to trade on this site got scammed.

I have not had any problems with the site.

some of the users are problematic.

make sure your 2fa is set up.

go into the settings and adjust the notifications.

So you are here to defend paxful. Why we need 2FA code if we have a strong password? Why these all the scam accusations are almost same that they withdraw their BTC? because it someone in the team steal those info and withdraw the btc no doubt.
So you say you have a strong password so you don't need 2FA eh? What happens if you get malware huh?

I had no 2FA on Coinbase, No malware
I had no 2FA on Localbitcoin, No malware
I had no 2FA on Blockchain, No malware
I had no 2FA on BTCTalk, No malware
I had no 2FA on any other site in those days, didnt got any issue with them. Why? All these site are good and have good reputation and dont want to loose it.

Did you see other scam accusation against them? Why they all have same issue. ?


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: paxful_bitcoin on January 25, 2017, 12:55:50 PM
This happens all the time in bitcoin web wallet world, except other sites simply don't report it to you.
Hackers will get into accounts.

1. By hacking your email account and thus without 2FA getting into your web wallet accounts linked to your email across all bitcoin web wallets.
2. By getting your email and password from hacked databases from other wallets.

This is why 2FA is now a standard in the industry. It works and often it is the only thing that works. In fact 2FA via SMS is also now not safe as hackers have found a way to use social engineering to import carrier numbers. Use Google Auth or Authy only.

We at Paxful are at the very forefront of mainstream bitcoin and we have seen it all. Despite our warnings users refuse to use 2FA. A strong password is simply not enough. You will get hacked without 2FA. We are giving our users more and more tools and showing them their logins and ip's and more tools are coming.

Please make an effort to use 2FA.

We are not in the business of stealing a few bucks from our users wallets. We spend hours trying to get a newbie their first bitcoin. Our CEO himself spent months on the phone with women from all over the USA showing them how to get and use bitcoin. We held their hands and taught them how to copy and paste and even listened to them cry all to get them their first bitcoins. There is even a video about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi1rMnDINz4

Do you think we would destroy their confidence in bitcoin all to steal a few bucks, when it costs us far far more in support costs just to get one of them integrated? This makes zero business sense and no common sense. Please just use 2FA.

A STRONG PASSWORD IS NOT ENOUGH IN BITCOIN LAND!!!! Because at least 1000 hackers already have your strong password that has been leaked from a hacked web wallet database with the salt hacked. This happens all the time.

Paxful is on the forefront of bitcoin for the mainstream and we know how important this is. These scam accusations happen because people REFUSE to properly secure their accounts. We can only do so much, teaching people about 2FA after they have only just leaned to copy and paste and have been using the same password for the past decade is tough but working TOGETHER we can all do it. Please help us clean all this up because the faster we do the faster bitcoin gets into real peoples hands.

Isn't that why we all got into this in the first place? To empower people?



so you logged in to see your funds transferred? you sure that your account didn't get hacked?

No I never get any Notification from the site at my email. I dont know about my account is hacked or not. But I can see there are too many countries in my logged in history. Its even not possible. I have account on other site too, but this type of thing never seen.

https://i.imgur.com/tb90Awu.png


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: bolinao on January 26, 2017, 01:43:34 AM
A STRONG PASSWORD IS NOT ENOUGH IN BITCOIN LAND!!!! Because at least 1000 hackers already have your strong password that has been leaked from a hacked web wallet database with the salt hacked. This happens all the time.

Exactly, if anyone knew anything about hacking it doesn't matter how strong your password is, it is not enough. There are databases out there with millions of username and password combos.

I use Paxful and have 2FA enabled and guess what ? I have never had my coin pinched.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: robelneo on January 26, 2017, 06:00:50 AM
I wonder why people still using  Paxful , when most of people here have claimed that it is a Scam
and Ponzi site.
Why the fuck do people claim that Paxful is a ponzi? You don't actually invest in Paxful....

And those who use/ use to trade on this site got scammed.

I have not had any problems with the site.

some of the users are problematic.

make sure your 2fa is set up.

go into the settings and adjust the notifications.

So you are here to defend paxful. Why we need 2FA code if we have a strong password? Why these all the scam accusations are almost same that they withdraw their BTC? because it someone in the team steal those info and withdraw the btc no doubt.
So you say you have a strong password so you don't need 2FA eh? What happens if you get malware huh?

I had no 2FA on Coinbase, No malware
I had no 2FA on Localbitcoin, No malware
I had no 2FA on Blockchain, No malware
I had no 2FA on BTCTalk, No malware
I had no 2FA on any other site in those days, didnt got any issue with them. Why? All these site are good and have good reputation and dont want to loose it.

Did you see other scam accusation against them? Why they all have same issue. ?

You have a valid case,on some exchanges I don't have 2FA set up only a strong password and I don't have problem with it,there could be an inside job on it and paxful needs some explaining to do,i am not usng paxful but will be very careful when using it.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: DarkArmy on January 26, 2017, 06:12:33 AM
If Paxful is a scam, so is localbitcoins. And was someone above seriously complaining about losing a small fee? Lol mate even if you do a $1,000 deal the fee is barely a few bucks.

Paxful is in no way a "scam", anyone who claims so is stupid. Let me answer a few points.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1362884.msg16079225#msg16079225

"I had no 2FA on Coinbase, No malware
I had no 2FA on Localbitcoin, No malware
I had no 2FA on Blockchain, No malware
I had no 2FA on BTCTalk, No malware
I had no 2FA on any other site in those days, didnt got any issue with them. Why? All these site are good and have good reputation and dont want to loose it.

Did you see other scam accusation against them? Why they all have same issue. ?"

Coinbase: New IP verification, email login confirmation, location based security.
Localbitcoins: Login guard enabled by default, email confirmation, location based security.
Blockchain: Email confirmation, identifier needed to login. Without you being at fault, it's impossible to get hacked.
Bitcointalk: Lol, hacked database, tons of users have been hacked. Just because you haven't, doesn't mean the issue isn't at hand.

Paxful has a bunch of security options you chose not to enable. While I dislike 2FA, it was your choice not to enable it. A strong password isn't shit when you could look up a username against billions of entries and find that very password used no a non-secure site. Malware isn't the only possibility mate.



Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: krack-r on January 29, 2017, 11:27:44 PM
Please keep this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1658629) in mind when using Paxful.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: jboroski on June 28, 2017, 04:48:03 AM
Have you reported it to Pax admin? I don't think they are a scam in my experience. I record all my trades in a video using screencast in case someone tries to scam me. Pax admin can easily investigate with a video as your proof. I suggest you do this as well. not olny with Paxful but also to other site/s that you are trading. Just a suggestion.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: X2bitcoinschain on June 28, 2017, 11:56:18 AM
I can testify to this, they are scam site. Paxful


Many case about them concerning this issue

They stole a guy that bought 16btc Bitcoins, the tread is here on bitcointalk


Paxful stealing those coins in ramdon and lying that its hacked


They are scam


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: X2bitcoinschain on June 28, 2017, 11:56:58 AM
Paxful.com is a scam. Trade on localbitcoins . com next time

Take a look on their scam site from this links

1) https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6jqlpp/stay_away_from_paxfulcom_the_moderators_are/

2) http://www.nairaland.com/3884643/www.paxful.com-fraud-scammer-site-founder

3) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1987998.0

4) http://www.nairaland.com/3887327/never-trade-paxful.com-owner-start#57917835

They will ban the vendor, take all his coins and won't even resolve issue with the Card owner.  Scam both Vendor and Card seller




The owner were caught with drug weeks ago in Miami, USA.

Popular site in USA Posted this, read it here https://cointelegraph.com/news/paxful-exchange-ceo-and-cto-arrested-in-miami-on-weapons-and-drugs-charges






STAY AWAY FROM PAXFUL.COM PLEASE, THEY ARE DANGEROUS.



Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: ahmedjadoon on June 28, 2017, 04:27:25 PM
I would never have faith on "strong passwords". 2FA is the only way to stay safe. Especially, I realized this after my Bitcointalk account was hacked a few months back and the hacker scammed 1.5BTC using my account. Unfortunately, Bitcointalk doesn't has 2FA but it is a must for online wallets.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: DarkArmy on July 01, 2017, 02:31:39 AM
I would never have faith on "strong passwords". 2FA is the only way to stay safe. Especially, I realized this after my Bitcointalk account was hacked a few months back and the hacker scammed 1.5BTC using my account. Unfortunately, Bitcointalk doesn't has 2FA but it is a must for online wallets.

Bitcointalk has no need for 2FA, just don't be stupid with your psssword and you won't need it.


Title: Re: Paxful is a Scam
Post by: Acid_Laserz on July 20, 2018, 01:03:31 PM
i have had decent experience so far with paxful

now migrated here www.findbits.com (https://findbits.com/?camp=BTK01)

support it