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I've been actually kind of thinking instead of sex workers needing bitcoin... That maybe bitcoin needs more sex workers.

The number one reason why smart, revolutionary people I know don't use bitcoin isn't because the tech is bad, it's because the social dynamics are. Progressive people don't want to take shit from privileged folx who roll around not being aware of that. Most of my interests and hobbies include people who can have layered conversations around intersectionality *except* for my crypto circles. It's amazingly behind the times in that. Literally whole forums full of $@#%^%...

Sex work is often a place where marginalized people get cash when the system messes with them. It's easy access and you always have your body. Part of being a marginalized person includes reading social situations around you to keep yourself safe. You learn to attune yourself, so a lot of sex workers are super emotionally intelligent not just because it helps with the job but it's a serious survival skill.

Privileged folk on the other hand don't have to develop this because their privilege shields them from a lot of day to day turbulence in different areas (depending on what their identities & experiences are.) I think a lot of people involved in bitcoin could learn from these skills.

A lot of creativity and tenacity happens on the fringes, and that includes people of colour, people who are transgender, people who are sex workers. And if you've been paying attention to fintech, you might even have noticed a few stirrings of a coming storm not just from bitcoin but a different wind.

People in bitcoin and other decentralized tech will have to make space for these identities and learn how these social dynamics affect social adoption.

well, https://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin (https://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin)

take a look: http://obsessionincorporated.com/community/bitcoin (http://obsessionincorporated.com/community/bitcoin)

They need to make sure that transaction is accepted with at least 3 to 6 confirmations... That's a long time of 30 to 60 minutes. Can the customers wait that long?

Alot of people accept transactions with zero deposits, also, if they run their own local node, it will be safe to accept confirmations without deposits

If its a small transaction, like getting a coffee, its fine, but if its something expensive, there shouldnt really be that much of a big deal either way. Its not like you need to walk out with your new car right this second, you need to fill papers anyways.

Also sellers can deal with a payment processor instead of accept BTC directly to their pocket, which does the job of checking for double spend risk and that is also covered for fraud.

I'm guessing you never paid for any service with bitcoin ? If they use bitpay , it will be credited immediately, atleast that was the case
each and every time i was ordering something from merchat that was using bitpay. Bitcoin can be used everywhere and for everything, period.

Cripple that and run it back by me slow.  Does this mean something about sex?

What's the whole forum full of?

In 30-60 minutes customer can enjoy with sex worker and worker can enjoy bitcoin as it will be already confirmed between their action. ;D
They can look at size and fee included to confirm those transaction will be confirmed.

LOl.. that is the biggest problem with Bitcoin payments. As an alternative, you could use a Bitcoin-based payment processor such as Bitpay or Coinbase. But the issue here is that Bitpay is famous for turning down "risky businesses". Previously, they had refused to process payments for recreational (legal) marijuana sellers in Colorado and porn sites based in California.

More like becoming paypal to which they also turn down adult industry and so Paxum exist. Maybe someday a bitpay alternative will also sprout.
And maybe even better that don't only process bitcoin but also some major altcoins.

 https://www.reddit.com/r/nakedbitcoins (https://www.reddit.com/r/Nakedbitcoins) also.

Yes that is true they can talk sexy things to warm them up while waiting for the confirmation to happen by the time it is confirmed they are already warmed up and ready to do the real things..lol

There's another very similar thread but I think it was only referring to prostitutes or escorts. I always thought Bitcoin could appeal a lot more to the Porn industry as a payment method since it's much more anonymous and easy, no need to enter credit cards info, etc, you don't even need an account. I guess as there was not a lot of adoption or success no one actually pay for porn then?  ::)

I dont think they will get some. It is hard to be a sex worker in bitcoin. It is risky.

When will this type of thinking disappear? You don't need 3 to 6 confirmations on normal transactions. Nobody will double spend a transaction for anything less than hundreds of thousands of dollars because the recources it requires are too big.

Also, even exchanges accept deposits in 1 confirmation. If they can do it, with generally bigger valued transactions, surely a sex worker could do it. Make payment, go for it, and before leaving the transactions is checked. It will have atleast 1 confirmation by then.

I believe there will be VIP transaction and confirmation service for defined amount.Using Bitcoin for adult services, maybee...But Bitcoin is something bigger, at least i hope...

since bitcoin is more of an online money, escorts are not going to use it instead of cash any time soon. but as i said since it is more of an online money there is many places that bitcoin is being used as payment for NSFW content, like on some subs on reddit people tip for those content in bitcoin. also there are websites like xotika that are dedicated to only bitcoin as payment.

You may have some points here but I'm going to disagree with you on two things. Firstly, sex workers (online one's) need BTCitcoin more than the other way since it's the only way for them to cover their true identity. Secondly this only could apply for those who work in front of cameras only and not those who work as real sex workers (in person) since they will go for cash (any time of the day all day long) mainly to get rid of the hassle of exchanging it to cash in the end.

How smart and revolutionary can they be if they reject technology based on "social dynamics?" That's like refusing to get a flying car because too many jocks have one - in other words, the opposite of smart and revolutionary.

Tell these precious snowflakes that they can run the technology without having to interact with the community.

It is true that I have not seen transaction with at least 1 confirmation being rejected subsequently. However, why is Coinbase insisted on 6 confirmations before you can spend the coins you have received? Maybe there is be a valid reason?

why must be sex workers?i disagree with this,some people or countries not legalling sex,i mean prostution,and how bitcoin can get in to this if not all people and country not support it.

Sex workers have lots of methods for getting their cash online and I think Bitcoin needs to show them it's worth it for them to change over. It's definitely a far superiors system than the credit one used for a lot of cam sites but how a sex worker deals with their personal identity depends on the worker and isn't enough to base your argument on. But you should know that many sex workers bridge both online and offline markets.

Frankly, sex workers will always find a way to get their money, including one of the many altcoins or second generation protocols that are popping up. If bitcoin doesn't seem appealing for them, they may bypass it and skip right to Ethereum or something else.

And your second point is weird because it contradicts your first one and I mean honestly... that could be said about any business

Because they're smart enough to take their genius to converse with people who can have an interesting conversation. Instead of flying around the shitty car that the jocks bought, they'll build their own better one with more intelligent sophisticated people.

It's the community that should be more worried about attracting them. Sex workers are coders and programmers and fintech geniuses as well as sex workers.

This is a pointless point about your unimportant feelings about sex work. Unless you're a sex worker, I don't care what you think about the social dynamics of its legality and it's weird of you to imply that bitcoin can only be used where everyone agrees with something, which kinda ignores the point of decentralization. Go play in a non-sex work thread of you're uncomfortable.

I like the idea of more porn sites accepting BTC.  This would make it easier for some people to get on these sites.  This would also bring more business to the site for the ones accepting BTC, for why use a CC when you can pay anonymously.  This would prevent issues like what happened last year with Ashley Madison

Bitcoin needs workers in every segment, not just in sex industry. You have a good idea and I support it. I thinking about same thing and there is one question, where to find this kind of work? With fiat is hard also to find that kind of work, wirh bitcoins even harder. I believe sex workers need a place where everyone can offer something, to make some place where will be easy for workers and customers to find what they search for.

Of course something like that is illegal in many countries. Someone need to find where will be suitable for that to open.

Not sure about bitcoin need sex workers or sex workers need bitcoin,i'm not wondering if this happen,i mean bitcoin related with sex,all payment and currency will related with this mainstream need.

Haha Lol why it needs 3-6 confirmation the customers cant wait that long,
1 confirmation only so that they can start their business as soon as possible,
Lol they were need sex but they want to wait for that long haha, for me i cant wait that long.

Yeah truly confirmation matters a lot. I think rather than making sex workers use bitcoin we can try implementation on porn sites which gives better result. Already few websites have been launched for porn.

With large Lightening Network Hubs, sex worker will not wait for confirmation, will be instant. Even has a guy named Poon working on it for release this summer.

No, it really doesn't. This forum is probably a contrast to the title but either way to be serious with you, it does not. We need to make the currency look respectable and porn is not going to do it.

/me said Poon, not Porn, don't get it twisted.

Anonymouse and uncenshorable + fully decentralised. This are BitCoin strength.

If the sex worker is a freelancer or has a pimp, yeah, they would have to deal with confirmations or use a third party processor.

If the sex worker works for an escort agency or a brothel/sex club, the agency/brothel/sex club or whatever can use a system whereby the client/John creates an account with them and deposits bitcoin in advance and then whenever he uses their services, they can debit the amount from his account. You are free to withdraw or add funds as needed.

It doesn't matter if it's anonymous or not. We know what this currency's reputation it. We shouldn't do things like this to make it worse.

Bitcoins trasncations cannot be traced and its best for the  Workers involved in such tasks

i think we should all make a combined effort to pay a sex worker with bitcoin
(after showing them how to accept bitcoin)

might be worth adding this to my world bitcoin pizza day May 22nd topic

It is too risky, how can it it is possible, it is really very hard to be a sex worker in bitcoin, i can't think they will get some more. instead of this bitcoin is better as it is.

??????????????? what on earth does you comment mean ?

People will trade anything of value for services,
also do not forget many (not all) sex workers are also drug users
so once they show their dealer how to accept btc, it is even better for them.

Hopefully these sex workers are going to use services like Coinbase, where their income can be regulated and then also give the government information for tax collection purposes. They only pay VAT on the stuff they buy and do not have to pay taxes like the rest of us. Many of them receive a income compared to a middle income household and should also help to pay some taxes.

I agree, they are smart people. They found a way, not to pay taxes. ^smile^

Sex workers and the users needs bitcoin, they don't need to give they card identity to pay for porn/sex, otherwise bitcoin don't need sex and worker, it's need mass adopter.

It would be really great if escort services accepted Bitcoin. I use one of them from time to time, and BTC would make things much easier for me. So I agree that it is a cool idea

Actually some of them accept Bitcoin already but they are in the UK. As for the USA, well, they are thinking about it:

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/industry-veteran-teaches-escorts-use-bitcoin/

And I generally support the idea that all sex industries would use Bitcoin. Everyone will benefit from that.

There's already tons of pornstars real or fake doing this for money. I personally will never pay for that. But if you're that kind of person go ahead there's a couple of sites.

i think all threads are becoming very similar these days....

Anyway,
Bitcoin is already being accepted in a few "porn services".

I am not sure if that is such a good idea as you will have to wait a long time. I do not think that it is plausible

another illegal activity need bitcoin as perfect payment,bitcoin with it anonimity will give so many benefit for activity like this,gambling,porn,terorist and another illegal activity  need payment like bitcoin,but its not the main purpose of bitcoin,i'm sure there are so many better and legal activity that need bitcoin as payment.

Why does Bitcoin need sex workes? We have never seen the people behind the scenes and the workers of Bitcoins. So I believe that it is not going to happen know.
If you want to see some sex workers go somewhere else.

Like translations or other services people offer  8)

I'm currently in the final stretch of development on my cam site http://klyemax.com

Hopefully once sex workers realize they can be earning extra money/BTC when not with clients, they will use it.

No one think that Bitcoin need sex workers. for me it is a useless talk. you know Bitcoin is a currency, so have you ever seen any currency need a sex worker?

 I also don't understand what the other people said that bitcoin should haave sex worker, because in my point of view that is personal necessary . If anyone need, that one search by themselves.
I am really don't like this because it is heard so taboo into my ear :v

there were already sex workers for bitcoin though. there have been coins dedicated for adult industry too.
i think the porn and particularly those in the deep web may use these coins for anonymity.

i dont think so. bitcoin need no sex workers it need hard workers and honest works.

One good idea that can make bitcoin more popular, really sex workers is one of the best advertisement so idea is really good. Need just to try to do smth like this .

I don't know about you but that reddit one made me turned off by the female body, just utterly disgusted at what they look like, and that is without them showing them the neck up  ::)

The second link is just of a red cross and nothing more. Looks like a place just looking for donations :-\

Maybe you are fucking gay, man. Granted, some of those girls aren't that good looking, but some are fine, that ScarletLuv chick I would definitely fuck.

I think we are still really far to see escorts accepting Bitcoin irl, we are going to need to wait a lot for that to be the norm. Maybe it will never be the case until physical cash is removed from circulation, then the whole industry will pretty much move to Bitcoin as the best alternative to a society that doesn't have cash anymore.

Well i had took a look into those and well there is a lot womans sure not perfect as you shouldnt be as well,normal bodies as i looked ,if you wanna models there are several options that you can choose categories.Sex industry is growing with bitcoin but i dont see how they can grow ,they have a limited users using bitcoin as i know most of them accept bitcoin as option but works with others payments processors.

It'd certainly be useful for popularizing Bitcoin, but do you really want it to be one of the main drivers in adoption? Bitcoin's got a rough reputation as-is thanks to the Deep Web.

I thought backpages accepts bitcoin.  I could be wrong, but I know that paxful has some connection to setting up bitcoin ads on backpage.

So, it would stand to reason that many of the sex workers advertising on that site would accept bitcoin.

I like the marketing idea though.  Imagine telling your s.o. that you have to meet with bitcoin clients and they are all johns and hookers!

waiting for all the confirmations can take a decent amount of time im not sure that a customer would want to wait that long

: Bitcoin needs sex workers?

i was wondering does it Bitcoins really need it, form me no!
bitcoins is use for a legal ways activities only. that for my opinion only ;)

Bitcoin doesn't need sex workers (especially considering that most of the people that actually use Bitcoin are neckbeards that'll rarely leave their house voluntarily), but if Bitcoin was to catch on throughout the general populace it could definitely be a thing for some people to consider.

Bitcoin cam shows are already a thing anyways, isn't that enough?

excatly,this is what happen in almost around the world,and people still have negative or rather to adopt bitcoin.
but honestly sex worker are not good idea,is not a good for good people who really want good sex relationship.

may happen someday, prostitutes paid for by using bitcoin money, but in my opinion should not do prostitution. because it was not good. cause many dangerous diseases. than our money for prostitution, it is better to give to those in greatest need. there are still many poor people around us who need our help. :)

I am in agreement with the general idea of your statement. But it is not that "people in Bitcoin and other decentralized tech" will have to make space. There is a space whether they like it or not. In the history of the world sex related services and products that make use of the latest technology is a sign that the technology is already being adopted. When the printing press was invented, they started using it for producing sex books, the same concept with the motion picture camera. If we finally see payments are commonly made to acquire the services of prostitutes, then in a way Bitcoin has finally made it with mainstream adoption.

Why will you give the burden to the sex workers, when you can convert your btc to fiat for your payment. Plus the time of confirmation of your btc transaction will take long not unless everything is arrange including the payment and where. Also it will be inappropriate for them as cash is the most reliable and faster way to pay. Converting your btc to fiat will be a quick solution.

For those who are sex worker doing it online it would be easier for them to use bitcoin and not get scammed by a luna-maniac. The important thing as well is that they can do it themselves like they won't need to have credit card processor to bill clients online.

The transaction confirmation cannot take longer than it takes for the average man or women to orgasm. < If it does, you need to consider using Xapo with their offchain transactions, Mr Seconds > Most sex workers demand their payment in advance, so you can start the transactions, and then wait for the first 2 confirmations and then you ready to go.

Just is just one of the reasons, why I hate fiat cash, because it's full of cum and cocaine and feces. <reality is a bitch>  

I don't think so. Sex and Bitcoin doesn't just add up. Sex has ruined a lot of life and plenty of people consider Bitcoin as their day job. You don't want to ruin that, as well. You want to act as a professional even if you're just earning money online. Your desires should be set aside, there's time for sex and there's time for Bitcoin. Don't mix them up.

This seems to be the most pathetic and horrible idea to popularize bitcoin according to me. I dont know what other forum posters may say, but this is my honest opinion.

1. This will lead to outbreak of more STD - we all know how much hygienic and healthy these people are (not) , so need to argue on this. >:(
2. Bitcoin is a currency - maybe people will be able to pay of the "services". But it will lead to a bad name of the community gradually because the people will tend to think bitcoin user=sex worker. After so much of hard work I dont think "Satoshi" will like that name for his users at all.

Not all money have been touch or came from the hands of hookers bro. How about newly printed ones? Do they have those dirty things you said? Plus they are the type of persons who needs cash quickly they don't have any time for having their btc converted into fiat money.

Is there any forex exchange accepting BTC as deposit?

I think Bitcoin is already well established in sex industry and many sex workers and web sites are accepting Bitcoin. Not so long ago here on forum was one girl offering sex chat service for Bitcoin. Alegedly she made 1 Bitcoin in one day. I also think that people are more keen to spend Bitcoin then fiat money for sex services because of anonimity.

I think that porn and sex business is a business like every other as well.
So it will grow along with the other businesses s well. Maybe even a bit more, because the buyer usually is not very keen on giving his name.
There are already several sites that accept bitcoin as payment.
I'm not sure if more workers are actually needed. When there is too much supply of something, the price usually drops. That would not be in favor the workers.

I guess this would somehow inflate Bitcoin's price. Plenty of people are into Bitcoin and watch live cams as well. I've been to a chat room like that before and people throw money as if it's nothing. Introducing Bitcoins to live cams website would open doors for new investors. People that throws money into live cams are actually throwing a lot of money based on what I have seen. Imagine if those were in Bitcoins. It might not inflate Bitcoin to the point that it's a major pump but I'm sure it would help.

Aren't there already sites that accept bitcoin for camshows?
I'm pretty sure I've seen some advertised on this site.

Whether you agree with it or not, people are paying money for sex.
Bitcoin needs more users, and this type of service would increase userbase.

well, with adoption this will follow... bitcoins is getting known and the porn industry(a few sites actually) already accept it. give it time and you will pay your hookers with bitcoin  ;D

Definitely, I want to have sex with an excort or call girl with botcoin payment. Moreover, bitcoin porn sites can help bitcoin adoption. Sex and drug, are related with bitcoin.

It would definitely help, i myself seen a thread about this once on a section where a girl was offering live sex in return of bitcoins on skype, and that thread was getting quite a lot of responses if i'm not forgetting.