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Title: First Dash ASIC Miner has arrived : iBeLink™ DM384M ASIC Dash Miner
Post by: qwizzie on February 20, 2016, 10:58:56 PM
iBeLink™ DM384M ASIC Dash Miner

https://dashtalk.org/threads/ibelink-dm384m-asic-dash-miner.8070/

https://i.imgur.com/jnZjxOs.jpg

http://cryptomining-blog.com/7117-the-first-x11-mining-asic-ibelink-dm384m-asic-dash-miner/#comments

https://i.imgur.com/pvUSfHZ.jpg

With some testing by one of the Dash Foundation members :

https://dashtalk.org/threads/ibelink-dm384m-asic-dash-miner.8070/page-2#post-85059

https://i.imgur.com/7sDD6bu.jpg


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: Panadacoin on February 20, 2016, 11:58:03 PM
I wonder what the price per Mh will be.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: pr0d1gy on February 21, 2016, 12:03:35 AM
So much for algorithms saying they are asic proof. lol. Anything is possible with time...


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: qwizzie on February 21, 2016, 12:04:59 AM
I wonder what the price per Mh will be.

http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/?h=380000.00&p=600.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.00&d=8000.00000000&r=1.94005104&er=0.00830&btcer=438&hc=0.00

mining difficulty varies per block but i took difficulty 8000 to stay on the safe side
you can check the difficulty also here : https://dashninja.pl/blocks.html



Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: qwizzie on February 21, 2016, 12:20:41 AM
So much for algorithms saying they are asic proof. lol. Anything is possible with time...

Yep, with time and dedication anything is possible. Important thing here is that Dash just like Bitcoin was given some years to
provide CPU & GPU mining before moving towards ASIC mining (which was the objective anyways, trying to avoid ASIC mining in the very early phase).


 


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: stoat on February 21, 2016, 12:27:21 AM
Does this development make dash less or more shit than it already is?


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: qwizzie on February 21, 2016, 12:29:01 AM
Does this development make dash less or more shit than it already is?

sorry, all it does is make your post a troll post.
any more questions mr troll ?


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: pr0d1gy on February 21, 2016, 12:59:48 AM
So much for algorithms saying they are asic proof. lol. Anything is possible with time...

Yep, with time and dedication anything is possible. Important thing here is that Dash just like Bitcoin was given some years to
provide CPU & GPU mining before moving towards ASIC mining (which was the objective anyways, trying to avoid ASIC mining in the very early phase).

Either way, pretty cool news, could help move the markets a bit with more coins coming in. Is it for the bad or is it for the good? As always, time will tell.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: stoat on February 21, 2016, 01:22:50 AM
Does this development make dash less or more shit than it already is?

sorry, all it does is make your post a troll post.
any more questions mr troll ?

I was just wondering what you think the implications will be?


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: SparkyU on February 21, 2016, 05:30:44 AM
I was just wondering what you think the implications will be?

I would think it would have a similar effect to when asic hit btc.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: BitcoinNational on February 21, 2016, 05:33:30 AM
ASIC Miners now cover:

SHA256
Scrypt
x11

Others?

I see a return to bot-net POW schemes, but doing something functionally useful, like serving as servers.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: cavaliersrus on February 21, 2016, 05:37:07 AM
interesting i would be interested in testing out one of these machines


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: Richard1972x on February 21, 2016, 06:33:18 AM
interesting i would be interested in testing out one of these machines

I would offer also a free testing for around 1 year. Curios to see how profitable it will be.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: vincentvincent on February 21, 2016, 07:27:17 AM
So much for algorithms saying they are asic proof. lol. Anything is possible with time...

Yep, with time and dedication anything is possible. Important thing here is that Dash just like Bitcoin was given some years to
provide CPU & GPU mining before moving towards ASIC mining (which was the objective anyways, trying to avoid ASIC mining in the very early phase).

Either way, pretty cool news, could help move the markets a bit with more coins coming in. Is it for the bad or is it for the good? As always, time will tell.

In my undestanding the number of generated coins is not influenced by the speed of the mining. It wil just be more difficult to solve the hash puzzle. More power with a more difficult puzzle causes the same time to solve the puzzle that will generate new coins.

Nothing wil change.

It is only interesting for people who get the first mining equipment: their hash power will then be temporarily much higher then others so they will receive a bigger share of the generated coins.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: pr0d1gy on February 21, 2016, 07:42:37 AM
So much for algorithms saying they are asic proof. lol. Anything is possible with time...

Yep, with time and dedication anything is possible. Important thing here is that Dash just like Bitcoin was given some years to
provide CPU & GPU mining before moving towards ASIC mining (which was the objective anyways, trying to avoid ASIC mining in the very early phase).

Either way, pretty cool news, could help move the markets a bit with more coins coming in. Is it for the bad or is it for the good? As always, time will tell.

In my undestanding the number of generated coins is not influenced by the speed of the mining. It wil just be more difficult to solve the hash puzzle. More power with a more difficult puzzle causes the same time to solve the puzzle that will generate new coins.

Nothing wil change.

It is only interesting for people who get the first mining equipment: their hash power will then be temporarily much higher then others so they will receive a bigger share of the generated coins.

I was kinda more thinking, the people who would get them first, would solo mine for a bit before going to pool. I think the payout would be worth it a bit more, depending on how soon you get it. But again, this is all a time game for every part of it. lol


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: Tacalt on February 21, 2016, 10:29:01 AM
Does this development make dash less or more shit than it already is?

sorry, all it does is make your post a troll post.
any more questions mr troll ?

I was just wondering what you think the implications will be?

I think it will reduce the user base significantly. ASIC mining is usually controlled by big farm, for example, the bitcoin.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: generalizethis on February 21, 2016, 10:58:41 AM
Does this development make dash less or more shit than it already is?

sorry, all it does is make your post a troll post.
any more questions mr troll ?

I was just wondering what you think the implications will be?

I think it will reduce the user base significantly. ASIC mining is usually controlled by big farm, for example, the bitcoin.

Node centralization + mining centralization + advertising it as a "good thing" = face palm


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: Fasdartin on February 21, 2016, 11:06:45 AM
Does this development make dash less or more shit than it already is?

sorry, all it does is make your post a troll post.
any more questions mr troll ?

I was just wondering what you think the implications will be?

I think it will reduce the user base significantly. ASIC mining is usually controlled by big farm, for example, the bitcoin.

Node centralization + mining centralization + advertising it as a "good thing" = face palm

I think Dash should change the algorithm to something more ASIC resistant so that it will have more GPU miners. It is good for the long term.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: CoinHoarder on February 21, 2016, 03:10:01 PM
Node centralization + mining centralization + advertising it as a "good thing" = face palm

Pretty much. Anyone that wants to buy one of these (aka. light money on fire), I suggest you simply send the money to me. I will send you back more than you will ever mine with this ASIC.

China sells the overpriced machine to suckers, then builds huge mines for pennies on the dollar, killing any illusion of profit by buying one of these ASICs.

I've seen this twice before with Bitcoin then Litecoin. I was twice the sucker. Don't be the sucker please... it is not a fun experience.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: pr0d1gy on February 22, 2016, 02:44:58 AM
I've seen this twice before with Bitcoin then Litecoin. I was twice the sucker. Don't be the sucker please... it is not a fun experience.

Fool me once, shame on me... Fool me twice, shame on you... Fool me three times, hell no? lol

I feel ya tho.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: fernforest on February 22, 2016, 04:30:13 AM
So much for algorithms saying they are asic proof. lol. Anything is possible with time...
Evan Duffield has said X11 was not ASIC-resistant. It was only meant to delay ASIC mining.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: cavaliersrus on February 22, 2016, 04:31:52 AM
price on the unit is 2k kinda steep but since there the only asic right now i know of for x11 im sure they will get that price


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: illodin on February 22, 2016, 08:17:48 AM
Time to switch the algo then? It's likely the ASIC manufacturer has already mined enough to cover their costs anyway so no loss for anyone.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: Tacalt on February 22, 2016, 11:57:55 AM
Time to switch the algo then? It's likely the ASIC manufacturer has already mined enough to cover their costs anyway so no loss for anyone.

The market cap is just $24 million for Dash, which is the largest X11 coin. How much does the ASIC development cost?


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: dEBRUYNE on February 22, 2016, 12:02:59 PM
So much for algorithms saying they are asic proof. lol. Anything is possible with time...
Evan Duffield has said X11 was not ASIC-resistant. It was only meant to delay ASIC mining.

Uh he did? See:

http://en.wiki.dashninja.pl/wiki/X11#ASIC_resistance



Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: aleix on February 22, 2016, 12:22:23 PM
So much for algorithms saying they are asic proof. lol. Anything is possible with time...
Evan Duffield has said X11 was not ASIC-resistant. It was only meant to delay ASIC mining.

Uh he did? See:

http://en.wiki.dashninja.pl/wiki/X11#ASIC_resistance



Evan Duffield, the creator of Darkcoin and X11 chained-hash, has wrote on several occasions that X11 was integrated into Darkcoin not with the intention to prevent ASIC manufacturers from creating ASICs for X11 in the future, but rather to provide a similar migratory path that Bitcoin had (CPUs, GPUs, ASICs). He expects that eventually, as Darkcoin grows in market capitalization, and ASIC investments becomes profitable, ASICs will be developed.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: Blazed on February 22, 2016, 01:10:38 PM
Whatever you guys think of a new ASIC miner... DO NOT PREORDER ONE. Wait for them to ship upon purchase!

I have watched over and over and over etc... People buy preorders and get burned. I know I should not have to say that, but people never learn.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: Rotator on February 22, 2016, 02:55:56 PM
Can this be a good news?
For some coins this will bring more security to network, just like Asic did the same for bitcoin?


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived : iBeLink™ DM384M ASIC Dash Miner
Post by: cryptohunter2 on February 22, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
Probably best to change coins rather than algo.

Ditch dash and buy something that is useful. Dash is going nowhere but down from here.

You will never get ROI on this asic miner.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived : iBeLink™ DM384M ASIC Dash Miner
Post by: qwizzie on February 22, 2016, 05:37:52 PM
Probably best to change coins rather than algo.

Ditch dash and buy something that is useful. Dash is going nowhere but down from here.

You will never get ROI on this asic miner.

troll damage control in progress i see  ;D

Can this be a good news?
For some coins this will bring more security to network, just like Asic did the same for bitcoin?

yes, i think the arrival of Dash ASIC miners is good news as it professionalize Dash mining and secures the network even more.


Title: Re: First Dash ASIC Miner has arrived : iBeLink™ DM384M ASIC Dash Miner
Post by: qwizzie on March 03, 2016, 10:24:52 PM
http://imgur.com/a/rPFmv
Not sure how to post pictures here, but copy the link and it should work.

I'm getting a Power conditioner later today and I'll get footage of it running and hashing for everyone to see!

Pictures of BitWater's received iBeLink Dash ASIC Miner from Dash ANN thread :

https://i.imgur.com/ZXTyzGD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5PWn5Ez.jpg

Link : https://dashtalk.org/threads/ibelink-dm384m-asic-dash-miner.8070/


Title: Re: First Dash ASIC Miner has arrived : iBeLink™ DM384M ASIC Dash Miner
Post by: Fasdartin on March 11, 2016, 09:37:03 AM
Any review of the miner. It seems it is real. But the Dash mining difficult is still around 3500. Does it mean the manufacturers have already use it?


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: Rabinovitch_recovery on March 29, 2016, 07:45:16 AM
Can this be a good news?
For some coins this will bring more security to network, just like Asic did the same for bitcoin?

Is that secure now, when (because of ASICs maybe?) the most part of hashing power is concentrated in hands of some enclave
 of (chinese?) people (pool owners)?..


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: Fasdartin on April 03, 2016, 06:44:08 PM
Can this be a good news?
For some coins this will bring more security to network, just like Asic did the same for bitcoin?

Is that secure now, when (because of ASICs maybe?) the most part of hashing power is concentrated in hands of some enclave
 of (chinese?) people (pool owners)?..

Does it mean the safety of Dash is determined by some Chinese people or other small groups of people?


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: Josef27 on April 04, 2016, 05:18:45 AM
So much for algorithms saying they are asic proof. lol. Anything is possible with time...

Yep, with time and dedication anything is possible. Important thing here is that Dash just like Bitcoin was given some years to
provide CPU & GPU mining before moving towards ASIC mining (which was the objective anyways, trying to avoid ASIC mining in the very early phase).

Either way, pretty cool news, could help move the markets a bit with more coins coming in. Is it for the bad or is it for the good? As always, time will tell.

In my undestanding the number of generated coins is not influenced by the speed of the mining. It wil just be more difficult to solve the hash puzzle. More power with a more difficult puzzle causes the same time to solve the puzzle that will generate new coins.

Nothing wil change.

It is only interesting for people who get the first mining equipment: their hash power will then be temporarily much higher then others so they will receive a bigger share of the generated coins.


If your right .. Then the only advantage might be asics power efficiency over GPU's. That might be worth looking into..


Title: Re: First Dash ASIC Miner has arrived : iBeLink™ DM384M ASIC Dash Miner
Post by: Rabinovitch on April 22, 2016, 04:29:14 AM
It's in stock now, who would like to order it? )

It's sad that they "can't ship to Russia" for some reason... Everyone else can, but not they.  >:(


Title: Re: First Dash ASIC Miner has arrived : iBeLink™ DM384M ASIC Dash Miner
Post by: Rabinovitch on April 22, 2016, 07:33:40 AM
To those who already have this device: how much does it mine (BTC/day or USD/day) and where (multipool, nicehash)?


Title: Re: First Dash ASIC Miner has arrived : iBeLink™ DM384M ASIC Dash Miner
Post by: cavaliersrus on April 22, 2016, 02:27:03 PM
i dont think anybody on this forum has one of these asics


Title: Re: First Dash ASIC Miner has arrived : iBeLink™ DM384M ASIC Dash Miner
Post by: Fasdartin on April 24, 2016, 08:22:56 PM
i dont think anybody on this forum has one of these asics

That is quite strange.  I don't see either. But the http://cryptomining-blog.com/ has seen the software.


Title: Re: Dash ASIC Miner has arrived
Post by: Searing on June 10, 2016, 01:36:29 PM
I've seen this twice before with Bitcoin then Litecoin. I was twice the sucker. Don't be the sucker please... it is not a fun experience.

Fool me once, shame on me... Fool me twice, shame on you... Fool me three times, hell no? lol

I feel ya tho.


Just out of curiosity......I don't plan to get one....but I see they are $899  on aliexpress the baikal 150m 40w units.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Gridseed-USB-MINER-Scrypt-Miner-5-2-6MH-S-LITECOIN-Miner-DOGECOIN-MINER-send-by-DHL/32664933777.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.2.ZZQNP7&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_0,searchweb201602_2_10017_507_401,searchweb201603_6&btsid=e18444df-d06b-4b48-b1e7-0cf7b919b61e (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Gridseed-USB-MINER-Scrypt-Miner-5-2-6MH-S-LITECOIN-Miner-DOGECOIN-MINER-send-by-DHL/32664933777.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.2.ZZQNP7&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_0,searchweb201602_2_10017_507_401,searchweb201603_6&btsid=e18444df-d06b-4b48-b1e7-0cf7b919b61e)

Were they not like 450 usd or some such a month in the past or am I mistaken and they were always 899.00

Just curious on the evolution on all this. In the last I heard there were 3 was it x11 asic miner products all of a sudden.

thanks