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There is no free press in the West. They talk about free press a lot but is there really a free press?

U.S government and her people criticize foreign countries about their lack of free press.

News media from ABC to CNN to FOX to Huffington Post to DailyBeast to XYZ to even sites like Reddit, are owned by the rich people or people who are just allies of either of the two major parties.

These rich people are allied with either the Left-wing or the Right-Wing political spectrum but most of them ally with the Left-wing.

They have close connections with either of the parties and key politicians and they have lobbyists and friends who are rich and connected.

Each of them have their own candidates they support and they take things out of context and purposefully do a propaganda war on each other.

When the left-wing news media calls Fox news as Faux News, the left-wingers are jubilant and repeat the same thing on the web but being oblivious to the fact that their own news media is totally FAUX too.

They don't report the news any more. They even write you an opinion about the news stories without letting you think for yourself.

They even do comedy and some call themselves the Comedy Central and there are late night shows and such, but people fail to realize, those channels are owned by these people too and the guy cracking the jokes is just a piper playing the tune for the guy who pays him/her.

Even sites like MTV or CNET or other tech sites, if you observe them over a period of time, roll out politically laced news stories once a while. MTV seems to be not reporting about music much anymore.

They are all trying to control 'information' because just like data is important to Google, 'information' is important to people in power and their pet news dogs.

The difference between the so-called government state sponsored news media in North Korea and the news media in the U.S is that, the later has a CEO and an image of being independent from the government but they all secretly work together for their respective parties and respective candidates.

It is all about getting the voter to vote one way or the other.

Now for years, they all announce their favourite candidate and least favourite candidate, days or weeks or months before the election as well and pick one for you without you picking one for yourself. They rarely let you think for yourself.

They are just dividing the people and pitting people against each other.

It just look like rooster chicken fight of the rich trying to play a game to see whose guy wins the game this time around.

It sounds like you mean there is no unbiased  press in the West.  There really is freedom of the press in the West but in America, over 50% of the general public don't believe mass media to report the news accurately, fairly and fully.  No doubt many of the networks you cite have their own agendas to push and they certainly are free to do just that.  You could always start your own news service but then you would also be perceived as biased - against mass media - based on your opinion here.

If there were a motto for the "free" press it would be "All the news we see fit to sell"
- Anon

If someone starts an unbiased press, they will be called a 'conspiracy theorists' and these ad networks have a major influence as well, which also is owned by the rich who are politically aligned either ways, and they probably won't advertise there.

There used to be something called 'investigative journalism', now many are punished for it.

1) Every person on the planet is biased

Mainstream news (FOX, CNN, NBC, etc) are all owned by the establishment... that's the opinion you will always get here


I follow some of the smaller 3rd party news sources

I like The Young Turks... I disagree with them on 2 major issues (gun control & global warming), but I agree with nearly everything else they say
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks/videos)

I also like Secular Talk, because I'm an Atheist and Kyle is a smart cookie
https://www.youtube.com/user/SecularTalk/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/SecularTalk/videos)

In France that's true. There's an harasseùent on far-right medias. They're less represented and there's no far-right television channel.

The fact that the media are able to support the candidate they choose implies that they are free.
Can you imagine any media person going against Kim Jong II?

I'm not so sure that most of them ally with the Left-wing (that might be an old wives-tale)

I honestly don't watch much from the main-stream news, but FOX is definitely right-wing, and so is CNN (judging by the most recent debate questions)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EHF5CHmHqU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EHF5CHmHqU)

When you ask republicans nothing but questions like, "What kind of music do you listen to?", and "What is your favorite cocktail?"...

And, you ask democrats questions like, "The Republican attack ad against you in a general election writes itself... You voted against the Brady Bill, mandated background checks, and a waiting period... you also supported allowing riders to bring guns in checked bags on Amtrak trains... for a decade you said that holding gun manufacturer responsible for mass shootings is a bad idea... now you say you are reconsidering, which is it? Shield the gun companies from lawsuits, or no?"


Liberal media?  I think not

Censoring of mainstream media sources doesn't work well these days. A lot of people, especially the younger generations get their doze of daily news from the social media (especially Facebook and Twitter). One worrying aspect is the recent attempts to censor FaceBook posts (especially in Germany), but so far Twitter has remained outside the scope of the censors.

It is not an old wife tale.

Just try to remember the names of leftist press and the names of rightist press. You will see you can remember a lot of names of leftist press.

Actually, it was the first Fox debate you are referring to and many conservatives even agree it was just aimed at Trump.

Liberal debates are more of a hug fest in reality.

CNN is left-wing and it is a known fact just like its a know fact Fox News is right-wing.

Did you read my post or watch the video I linked?

How does naming what I've been told is a leftist press do anything?

I'm saying, quit going by what you've been told, open your eyes, and judge for yourself... its not as left as you assume

YoungTurks are left-wing too.

"The Young Turks (TYT) is an online American liberal/progressive political and social commentary program hosted by Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Turks

in this world, there is  no free press in every country.. so united states fools every nation about its so called speech of freedom... united stated is the biggest liar of the world

So what? TYT doesn't pretend they are right-wing and they are most definitely not a mainstream/establishment source

Do you need me to name some right-wing sources for you?  Are you not capable of finding your own news outlet that matches your personal opinions?

I already informed you that you are wrong about CNN... CNN is right-wing, not left-wing like you assume

It's pretty clear that the major media companies and politicians are all owned by big corporations and big donors.  They are working for the same people and its not the American people.  They work for the people that pay them.

Why are you assuming so many things? It is proving that you are a left-winger.

I am not a left or right winger and I am just stating facts


CNN tries to stay in the middle but it is left-wing at the end. You can disagree.

Their commentators and on issues, they are on the side of the left-wingers.

One of their anchors, Chris Cuomo, is the son of former Governor of New York, Mario Cuomo, a Democrat and brother of the current Democrat governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo.

Another anchors is Don Lemon and many others.

CNN is right-wing but their views and anchors are all left-wing. LEL.  How contradictory.

And it is owned by billionare Ted Turner who is a left-winger too.

Are you done assuming yet?

I'm not left or right... I don't give a single fuck about labels... I care about issues, and agree with various issues presented by both parties

I like TYT because those guys are fucking smart... way smarter than anyone I've seen on any mainstream media outlet... ever

I used to like Bill O'Reilly, because he presents himself as intelligent, but he argues such stupid things at times (baby parts?!?)... makes himself look foolish too often... I seriously cannot stand that Megan Kelly bitch that comes on after Bill... she's the biggest twat, and wrong with 90% of everything she says

I am done assuming after you are done assuming. Even Wikipedia says they are liberals.Uygur was a political commentator on msnbc. You have the right to watch whatever you want as anyone else. I am just saying.

About CNN, it tries to stay in the middle but they are owned by a liberal billionaire and their anchors are mostly voting democrats and on issues they are liberal.

And, I am not an American, so it is not like I am gathering votes for anyone here or saying this for 10 btc or anything.

Did someone say TYT was right-wing?  I must have missed that part...

Why are you attacking a straw-man?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)

Yes, I like TYT... I agree with 95% of the things they say... I disagree with them on gun control and climate change... 2 major right-wing issues... I side with republicans on those 2 issues

What truly saddens me is to see so many here in the US divided by the so-called left wing and right wing when we must remember those left and right wings are attached to one body, one body headed in the same direction. The whole illusion of one channel or broadcasting company being left or right wing is just that, an illusion.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6EHW1eIUAI7j1f.png

David Rockefeller - We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. … It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.

I agree...

Sheeple would rather be told what to think, than actually form their own opinion on anything

The establishment owns both puppets, and have tricked all the sheeple into choosing a team


I get my news from reliable non-mainstream outlets... I hear the internet is a wonderful tool, which one can use to filter fact from fiction... double-check every claim they make until you find sources that are consistently reliable

For a person to talk about free speech while closing his thread after the OP to deny other peoples reply.
It is saying a lot. Stupid hypocrite lol

It's hard to get the truth from the news.  They don't seem to challenge politicians when they don't tell the truth.  The major news companies are owned and don't want to undermine their bosses.  There are more stories about sports, Justin Bieber, and Beyoncé that real news stories a lot of the time.

What are you talking about? I closed a thread because I started the thread and what I wrote needed more investigations. It was not the free press. It was about Poker-Automatics being a scam and it was given to another owner, once I get the full details, I will open the thread and if it was just a rumor, no point in opening the thread. I don't like calling people stupid but since you did, you are the real stupid LEL since you called me a hypocrite based on assumptions.  The only reason I locked the thread was because I didn't want mere rumours to create a problem for Poker-automatics since so many people have invested there. Also, thread here and free press are apples and oranges.

I was just saying not attacking a straw man.

I only make views after research into a particular news topic as well and hear from all sides and not based on selfishness or biases.

Good morning :)! So you just have woke up. Anyway welcome to the club of enlightened :).
What you wrote is absolute correct. Hopefully more and more people going to realize all of these things.

Im talking abou your religion thread in this sub. Not some weird scam accusations or whatever. Lol

Im changing my comment:

Stupid (religious) hypocrite.

Moloch watching this isn't surprising in fact. Moloch is just a leftist, but a stupid leftist (neo-socialist) or a manipulated leftist (the other left parties) ? That's the question.

My understanding is that the main stream press is not publicly funded.  They are privately funded by big corporations so they don't have an interest in telling the whole story all of the time.

There is no free press anywhere. Journalist is a job, who pays decides. Free press my ***  ::)

I think there is some independent press mostly small news organizations on the internet.  But there are very few of them that tell the whole truth.

There is free press in the West, that is until you say the wrong things and "commit suicide" by taking a nail gun to your chest, "jump" off of a tall building, or "shoot yourself" two times in the head.

Bitcointalk is an example of free press.    8)

Only internet is free.

In the west media is completely controlled by secret society sodomite elite who use it only to destroy our civilization with homosexual propaganda to bring the new world order and global slavery.

Enslaving people is one of the easiest things to do. All you need do is suggest it a few times in the media, and then the people go about enslaving themselves. Look at all the in-the-name-of-freedom conspiracy sites that there are on the Internet, put up by people thinking that they are informing someone of something, while all they are doing is informing the free people that they are slaves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc11mJGre10

 ;D

Internet is full of dumb shits.

Even worst then in RL.

Internet is not free either. You pay with data ::)

That could be discussed mainly because there is no total freedom of speech in the West. Or at least not in Europe. Hence there can't be real freedom of the press.

Free press in the west doesn't exist. Nor does it in the east. Nor does it in the middle east.
Ask Mr. Greenwald, Mr. Assange, Gao Yu or Liu Hu about free press. ;D Publish the wrong information and they lock you up for life.

Not all country's have the same news restrictions in the Netherlands your free to speak. Use the right news source and with internet you can do your own research.