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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: Shinpako09 on March 02, 2016, 03:44:18 AM



Title: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: Shinpako09 on March 02, 2016, 03:44:18 AM
Need loan
Amount: 0.04BTC
Repayment: 0.045BTC
Loan term: 8days
Send here: 1JQ9n96VyeHJHMumkGTaeDGrqHqBEyTN9j

Staked addy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg13315370#msg13315370

Pls include tx id together with repayment addy after sending the loan.


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: raaajlucky on March 02, 2016, 07:32:22 AM
This account pass word has been changed recently. So do you provide any collateral for this loan request?


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: altcoinhosting on March 02, 2016, 07:34:59 AM
Need loan
Amount: 0.04BTC
Repayment: 0.045BTC
Loan term: 8days
Send here: 1JQ9n96VyeHJHMumkGTaeDGrqHqBEyTN9j

Staked addy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg13315370#msg13315370

Pls include tx id together with repayment addy after sending the loan.

You should fix these 2 problems in order to have a better chance of getting a loan:

1) provide valid collateral... you're asking for $18 equivalent in non-refundable currency on an anonymous forum with a relatively new account... You should offer some collateral

2) you point to the place where your address is staked, this is worth nothing... Everybody can link to a thread. Please sign a message with the staked address, that way you can prove your account wasn't hacked.


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: Alaki on March 02, 2016, 09:18:33 AM
Need loan
Amount: 0.04BTC
Repayment: 0.045BTC
Loan term: 8days
Send here: 1JQ9n96VyeHJHMumkGTaeDGrqHqBEyTN9j

Staked addy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg13315370#msg13315370

Pls include tx id together with repayment addy after sending the loan.
I'd entreat you to PM meh (with collateral) & I'll fill this loan


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: Lutpin on March 02, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
2) you point to the place where your address is staked, this is worth nothing... Everybody can link to a thread. Please sign a message with the staked address, that way you can prove your account wasn't hacked.
But he's asking for a payment to this very address.


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: altcoinhosting on March 02, 2016, 09:22:41 AM
2) you point to the place where your address is staked, this is worth nothing... Everybody can link to a thread. Please sign a message with the staked address, that way you can prove your account wasn't hacked.
But he's asking for a payment to this very address.

I did not realise this fact untill you pointed it out... Sorry, disregard my comment :)


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: Shinpako09 on March 02, 2016, 09:33:55 AM
Need loan
Amount: 0.04BTC
Repayment: 0.045BTC
Loan term: 8days
Send here: 1JQ9n96VyeHJHMumkGTaeDGrqHqBEyTN9j

Staked addy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg13315370#msg13315370

Pls include tx id together with repayment addy after sending the loan.
I'd entreat you to PM meh (with collateral) & I'll fill this loan
ok ill pm the password of this account right away and send the funds to my addy but first may i ask if you have trading history?


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: Alaki on March 02, 2016, 09:42:01 AM
Need loan
Amount: 0.04BTC
Repayment: 0.045BTC
Loan term: 8days
Send here: 1JQ9n96VyeHJHMumkGTaeDGrqHqBEyTN9j

Staked addy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg13315370#msg13315370

Pls include tx id together with repayment addy after sending the loan.
I'd entreat you to PM meh (with collateral) & I'll fill this loan
ok ill pm the password of this account right away and send the funds to my addy but first may i ask if you have trading history?
Neh, I don't trade out much there but It'll be fine if you send your account to an escrow. It'll be safe for both parties, I'd guess.


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: Shinpako09 on March 02, 2016, 09:47:07 AM
Neh, I don't trade out much there but It'll be fine if you send your account to an escrow. It'll be safe for both parties, I'd guess.
Thanks but it would consume time i guess plus the fee. I'll just wait for another lender and prefer person with higher activity. Thanks.


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: xinzark on March 02, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
1) provide valid collateral... you're asking for $18 equivalent in non-refundable currency on an anonymous forum with a relatively new account... You should offer some collateral

If you are asking indirectly for his account as collateral then it might be a very bad idea
Did you noticed that more than 73% of his posts are in local boards which is quite not acceptable by most of the signature campaign managers. Only acceptable by auto campaigns with no campaign manager
So I think it will still be hard for you to cover losses if any by seeking his account because of such post quality


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: kingaltcoins on March 02, 2016, 12:00:34 PM
First of all your account is not worth 120% of your loan amount.

120% of 0.04 is 0.088 (<= sorry, typo) 0.048 BTC and your account is currently worth 0.07497 BTC according to Bitcointalk Account Price Estimator, which is not the actual price if you want to sell it in real time. Your account can maximum go for 0.04 BTC.

Do you have any other altcoins or other alt accounts besides this one?

Well here is the general rule regarding asking for loans...........





no (valid) collateral, no loan.

Things you need to know:

[EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0)
How to sign a message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0)
Bitcointalk Escrows (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0)

Read all of them and after educating yourself ask again.

You can lock this topic at the lower left of this page. thank you! :)

(courtesy: whywefight)


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: xinzark on March 02, 2016, 12:06:36 PM
First of all your account is not worth 120% of your loan amount.

120% of 0.04 is 0.088 BTC and your account is currently worth 0.07497 BTC according to Bitcointalk Account Price Estimator.

Lol 120% of 0.04 btc doesn't equals to 0.088 btc. Its 0.048 btc
And account price estimators doesn't give right value of account. They are always overpriced


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: andy75 on March 02, 2016, 12:38:14 PM
based on the assumption your account worth 0.04BTC you can get 0.033BTC with account as collateral


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: rezilient on March 02, 2016, 01:26:05 PM
You get a good deal if he defaults in the loan:

he is currently enrolled in Bitmixer campaign - which is a good campaign even you post crappy posts.
You can sell the account more higher because it is enrolled in a campaign cos most sig campaign are full.
You can get ROI + profits in two weeks.


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: kolesozw on March 02, 2016, 02:06:59 PM
I can do this loan but isn't the account will get a negative trust if ever OP defaults? That will make the collateral useless right?


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: altcoinhosting on March 02, 2016, 02:21:49 PM
I can do this loan but isn't the account will get a negative trust if ever OP defaults? That will make the collateral useless right?

not necessarily... Just don't ask DT to tag an account negatively if the borrower defaults, tell them you'll sell the account to cover your losses, and they'll usually leave the account alone.
Especially because it's just a full member account. Sr. accounts usually get tagged as sold (neutral) by DT after a default.


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: kolesozw on March 02, 2016, 02:25:27 PM
I can do this loan but isn't the account will get a negative trust if ever OP defaults? That will make the collateral useless right?

not necessarily... Just don't ask DT to tag an account negatively if the borrower defaults, tell them you'll sell the account to cover your losses, and they'll usually leave the account alone.
Especially because it's just a full member account. Sr. accounts usually get tagged as sold (neutral) by DT after a default.

Fair enough.

OP if you still need a loan I can do this one, send me your account details on PM and I will send the loan amount once I secured the collateral :)


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: Shinpako09 on March 02, 2016, 07:06:46 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1377519.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1375436.0
Both was paid earlier

Fair enough.

OP if you still need a loan I can do this one, send me your account details on PM and I will send the loan amount once I secured the collateral :)
ok ill pm


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: kolesozw on March 02, 2016, 08:28:08 PM
Alright account now secured. I wanna ask first a signed message from your staked addy saying

Quote
This is Shinpako09, taking a 0.04 BTC loan from kolesozw, today March 2, 2016

I'll send the loan afterwards


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: ShinpakoV2 on March 03, 2016, 12:14:01 AM
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Shinpako09, taking a 0.04 BTC loan from kolesozw,
today March 2, 2016
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1JQ9n96VyeHJHMumkGTaeDGrqHqBEyTN9j

H7kCBj65iwyeadTnT+6XgcN2QC4ZYnJcQGCFywlmQ5ete0Q3khB91vEHF6QRB5Ft1gOrkDeSJeYd/urvjD3lFAY=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: kolesozw on March 03, 2016, 01:29:00 AM
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Shinpako09, taking a 0.04 BTC loan from kolesozw,
today March 2, 2016
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1JQ9n96VyeHJHMumkGTaeDGrqHqBEyTN9j

H7kCBj65iwyeadTnT+6XgcN2QC4ZYnJcQGCFywlmQ5ete0Q3khB91vEHF6QRB5Ft1gOrkDeSJeYd/urvjD3lFAY=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

Signature verified with electrum.

0.04 BTC loan sent : https://blockchain.info/tx/bee2f532ea9a5ade7f284e42009074a1e242f32c03eb64b1a1af432455269b9d

Kindly repay 0.045 BTC within 8 days on my address : 1EEGBhUstU4qXkMRfz4cmHa4KZGYtRX4bJ


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: whywefight on March 03, 2016, 02:32:34 AM
I can do this loan but isn't the account will get a negative trust if ever OP defaults? That will make the collateral useless right?

i dont wanna sound harsh, but did you just buy this account??


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: kolesozw on March 03, 2016, 09:39:27 AM
I can do this loan but isn't the account will get a negative trust if ever OP defaults? That will make the collateral useless right?

i dont wanna sound harsh, but did you just buy this account??

Nope... Hopefully not. I can see he got paid loans history with the same amount and also I know him on our local section so I just gave him a loan. Let's see in the next days ;D


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: Laosai on March 03, 2016, 10:07:30 AM
This account pass word has been changed recently. So do you provide any collateral for this loan request?


How do you check that?


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: ralle14 on March 03, 2016, 10:12:54 AM
This account pass word has been changed recently. So do you provide any collateral for this loan request?


How do you check that?
Check and click the trust of the of the account itll say that the pass has changed recently or you could check the seclog (https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php)


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: Laosai on March 03, 2016, 10:14:08 AM
This account pass word has been changed recently. So do you provide any collateral for this loan request?


How do you check that?
Check and click the trust of the of the account itll say that the pass has changed recently or you could check the seclog (https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php)

Thanks! I wasn't aware of the seclog existence =D

Is there any kind of archive of the seclog?


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: ShinpakoV2 on March 04, 2016, 05:05:00 AM
Loan repaid
tx id: https://blockchain.info/tx/9b505ed2c878cc7c4eeecbee09ccf9e6aff8c25cf68e3543eef18608c3d45323

give back the account to original password or pm this account and ill change it on my own. Thanks for the loan kabayan.


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: kolesozw on March 04, 2016, 08:24:17 AM
Loan repaid
tx id: https://blockchain.info/tx/9b505ed2c878cc7c4eeecbee09ccf9e6aff8c25cf68e3543eef18608c3d45323

give back the account to original password or pm this account and ill change it on my own. Thanks for the loan kabayan.

Repayment confirmed. Changing now the password in a while

Thanks for the early repayment :)

Edit: Password now changed to the original one. Thanks once again


Title: Re: Need loan 0.04BTC
Post by: Shinpako09 on March 04, 2016, 09:04:06 AM
Loan repaid
tx id: https://blockchain.info/tx/9b505ed2c878cc7c4eeecbee09ccf9e6aff8c25cf68e3543eef18608c3d45323

give back the account to original password or pm this account and ill change it on my own. Thanks for the loan kabayan.

Repayment confirmed. Changing now the password in a while

Thanks for the early repayment :)

Edit: Password now changed to the original one. Thanks once again
Got my account back. Your welcome and also thanks for the loan.

Locked.