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raaajlucky
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March 02, 2016, 07:32:22 AM |
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This account pass word has been changed recently. So do you provide any collateral for this loan request?
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altcoinhosting
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March 02, 2016, 07:34:59 AM |
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You should fix these 2 problems in order to have a better chance of getting a loan: 1) provide valid collateral... you're asking for $18 equivalent in non-refundable currency on an anonymous forum with a relatively new account... You should offer some collateral 2) you point to the place where your address is staked, this is worth nothing... Everybody can link to a thread. Please sign a message with the staked address, that way you can prove your account wasn't hacked.
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Alaki
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March 02, 2016, 09:18:33 AM |
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I'd entreat you to PM meh (with collateral) & I'll fill this loan
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Lutpin
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Goodbye, Z.
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March 02, 2016, 09:21:06 AM |
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2) you point to the place where your address is staked, this is worth nothing... Everybody can link to a thread. Please sign a message with the staked address, that way you can prove your account wasn't hacked.
But he's asking for a payment to this very address.
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altcoinhosting
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March 02, 2016, 09:22:41 AM |
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2) you point to the place where your address is staked, this is worth nothing... Everybody can link to a thread. Please sign a message with the staked address, that way you can prove your account wasn't hacked.
But he's asking for a payment to this very address. I did not realise this fact untill you pointed it out... Sorry, disregard my comment ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Shinpako09 (OP)
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March 02, 2016, 09:33:55 AM |
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I'd entreat you to PM meh (with collateral) & I'll fill this loan ok ill pm the password of this account right away and send the funds to my addy but first may i ask if you have trading history?
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Alaki
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March 02, 2016, 09:42:01 AM |
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I'd entreat you to PM meh (with collateral) & I'll fill this loan ok ill pm the password of this account right away and send the funds to my addy but first may i ask if you have trading history? Neh, I don't trade out much there but It'll be fine if you send your account to an escrow. It'll be safe for both parties, I'd guess.
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Shinpako09 (OP)
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March 02, 2016, 09:47:07 AM |
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Neh, I don't trade out much there but It'll be fine if you send your account to an escrow. It'll be safe for both parties, I'd guess.
Thanks but it would consume time i guess plus the fee. I'll just wait for another lender and prefer person with higher activity. Thanks.
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xinzark
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March 02, 2016, 11:53:51 AM |
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1) provide valid collateral... you're asking for $18 equivalent in non-refundable currency on an anonymous forum with a relatively new account... You should offer some collateral
If you are asking indirectly for his account as collateral then it might be a very bad idea Did you noticed that more than 73% of his posts are in local boards which is quite not acceptable by most of the signature campaign managers. Only acceptable by auto campaigns with no campaign manager So I think it will still be hard for you to cover losses if any by seeking his account because of such post quality
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kingaltcoins
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March 02, 2016, 12:00:34 PM Last edit: March 02, 2016, 12:17:11 PM by kingaltcoins |
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First of all your account is not worth 120% of your loan amount. 120% of 0.04 is 0.088 (<= sorry, typo) 0.048 BTC and your account is currently worth 0.07497 BTC according to Bitcointalk Account Price Estimator, which is not the actual price if you want to sell it in real time. Your account can maximum go for 0.04 BTC. Do you have any other altcoins or other alt accounts besides this one? Well here is the general rule regarding asking for loans...........
no (valid) collateral, no loan. Things you need to know: [EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK!How to sign a messageBitcointalk EscrowsRead all of them and after educating yourself ask again. You can lock this topic at the lower left of this page. thank you! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) (courtesy: whywefight)
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xinzark
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March 02, 2016, 12:06:36 PM |
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First of all your account is not worth 120% of your loan amount.
120% of 0.04 is 0.088 BTC and your account is currently worth 0.07497 BTC according to Bitcointalk Account Price Estimator.
Lol 120% of 0.04 btc doesn't equals to 0.088 btc. Its 0.048 btc And account price estimators doesn't give right value of account. They are always overpriced
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andy75
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March 02, 2016, 12:38:14 PM |
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based on the assumption your account worth 0.04BTC you can get 0.033BTC with account as collateral
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March 02, 2016, 01:26:05 PM |
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You get a good deal if he defaults in the loan:
he is currently enrolled in Bitmixer campaign - which is a good campaign even you post crappy posts. You can sell the account more higher because it is enrolled in a campaign cos most sig campaign are full. You can get ROI + profits in two weeks.
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You don't pay enough.
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kolesozw
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March 02, 2016, 02:06:59 PM |
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I can do this loan but isn't the account will get a negative trust if ever OP defaults? That will make the collateral useless right?
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altcoinhosting
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March 02, 2016, 02:21:49 PM |
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I can do this loan but isn't the account will get a negative trust if ever OP defaults? That will make the collateral useless right?
not necessarily... Just don't ask DT to tag an account negatively if the borrower defaults, tell them you'll sell the account to cover your losses, and they'll usually leave the account alone. Especially because it's just a full member account. Sr. accounts usually get tagged as sold (neutral) by DT after a default.
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kolesozw
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March 02, 2016, 02:25:27 PM |
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I can do this loan but isn't the account will get a negative trust if ever OP defaults? That will make the collateral useless right?
not necessarily... Just don't ask DT to tag an account negatively if the borrower defaults, tell them you'll sell the account to cover your losses, and they'll usually leave the account alone. Especially because it's just a full member account. Sr. accounts usually get tagged as sold (neutral) by DT after a default. Fair enough. OP if you still need a loan I can do this one, send me your account details on PM and I will send the loan amount once I secured the collateral ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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kolesozw
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March 02, 2016, 08:28:08 PM |
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Alright account now secured. I wanna ask first a signed message from your staked addy saying This is Shinpako09, taking a 0.04 BTC loan from kolesozw, today March 2, 2016 I'll send the loan afterwards
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ShinpakoV2
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March 03, 2016, 12:14:01 AM |
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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- This is Shinpako09, taking a 0.04 BTC loan from kolesozw, today March 2, 2016 -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0) Address: 1JQ9n96VyeHJHMumkGTaeDGrqHqBEyTN9j
H7kCBj65iwyeadTnT+6XgcN2QC4ZYnJcQGCFywlmQ5ete0Q3khB91vEHF6QRB5Ft1gOrkDeSJeYd/urvjD3lFAY= -----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
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