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Title: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: ChrisHaefner on March 02, 2016, 08:18:13 PM
Hello,
So I recent bought an Antminer S7 5.06TH miner. It had been running great until I attempted to upgrade the firmware (for no real reason). Then I ran into the problem in the video. I have tried to do a factory software default as well as a hard reset with no change. I will check this thread regularly, but if you have an answer or a question I constantly check my email chrishaefner@gmail.com I would love an help or ideas. I will also donate some BTC for whoever gets me going. Not a lot. Like 0.016, but still some. Thank you!
https://youtu.be/TyKM76SOWQ0


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: algin8189 on March 03, 2016, 12:08:20 AM
Someone around here did post about don't upgrade s7 firmware before... It could brick your s7 due to the firmware only suitable for certain batch one.. Let me try find it for u...


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: notlist3d on March 03, 2016, 01:55:27 AM
Someone around here did post about don't upgrade s7 firmware before... It could brick your s7 due to the firmware only suitable for certain batch one.. Let me try find it for u...

If something is working good.... don't update the firmware.  There just is simply no reason.  Only bitmain one there was a great reason was one S3 firmware reset button did not work.... now that is huge deal update firmware.

If your gear is working don't touch the firmware.  You can have a brick for no gain.

But since you already did it, have you tried going back to firmware you were on previously?  And be careful power off problem scares me.... and if it does that during firmware upgrade or downgrade you chances are have a brick.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: ChrisHaefner on March 03, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Someone around here did post about don't upgrade s7 firmware before... It could brick your s7 due to the firmware only suitable for certain batch one.. Let me try find it for u...

If you could find that I  would really appreciate it! And pay for it!


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: ChrisHaefner on March 03, 2016, 06:40:25 PM
It's really weird. It seems to work at night??


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: ChrisHaefner on March 04, 2016, 02:24:08 AM
Nope never mind it IS NOT working period.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: ChrisHaefner on March 04, 2016, 02:38:46 AM
I've had a few people blame the psu or the delay. Any votes on that?


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: philipma1957 on March 04, 2016, 02:49:36 AM
You fucked yourself.  I am the guy that begged people to never run a bitmaintech firmware.

many reason and stories abound.

 basically you are bricked.

first is that a batch 5,6,7,8

bitmaintech did 11 batches so far and 1,2,3  will plave with each other as long as you di not upgrade firmware.


if you are and older batch like a six  look for a batch six controller in the market place.

so you need to know your batch number and then ask around for help.

the 1,2,3   and the 9,10,11   are two sets   then middle batches vary.    any they started striping the controllers  down so   you really need to know what one you have.


I have a batch 2  the controller allows be to attach a second s-7's set of boards but only from the 1,2,3 batches.



Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: notlist3d on March 04, 2016, 04:04:55 AM
You fucked yourself.  I am the guy that begged people to never run a bitmaintech firmware.

many reason and stories abound.

 basically you are bricked.

first is that a batch 5,6,7,8

bitmaintech did 11 batches so far and 1,2,3  will plave with each other as long as you di not upgrade firmware.


if you are and older batch like a six  look for a batch six controller in the market place.

so you need to know your batch number and then ask around for help.

the 1,2,3   and the 9,10,11   are two sets   then middle batches vary.    any they started striping the controllers  down so   you really need to know what one you have.


I have a batch 2  the controller allows be to attach a second s-7's set of boards but only from the 1,2,3 batches.



I pushed not to do it on any that did not run off SD cards.  S4's and C1's ran off sd card....  bad flash reflash the sd card simple and nice.  But cheapness made ones run without sd cards.  Removes your ability to fix a brick quickly.  Ever since I bricked a S3 I have mentioned many times I don't update unless big flaw.  Only one that met this was some S3 reset did not work.... so big flaw need to update.  Been a LONG time since a good reason.

On S7 if works... don't touch firmware.  The hard part OP is you need to try to go back to working firmware or do another flash... to see if it is a bad flash.  But problem is your power off's.  If you get a single power off during your re-flashing you have a brick.  So your in a hard spot.  Might look at re-ordering a BBB board for your batch if truly is F'ed and count it as lesson learned.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: algin8189 on March 04, 2016, 04:17:21 AM
Someone around here did post about don't upgrade s7 firmware before... It could brick your s7 due to the firmware only suitable for certain batch one.. Let me try find it for u...

If you could find that I  would really appreciate it! And pay for it!
Well, I can't find that. But the topic author already here. @philipma1957.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: ChrisHaefner on March 04, 2016, 05:33:49 AM
So even though it runs for a while and stops it's bricked you think? Damn it I really wished I hadn't touched the firmware.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: VRobb on March 04, 2016, 01:28:03 PM
So even though it runs for a while and stops it's bricked you think? Damn it I really wished I hadn't touched the firmware.
So it is actually running for a while?  If it's running then you didn't brick it, but something else is going on...  Can you log on to it and see the GUI?  How long does it stay on before shutting off?  It may be your PSU, try letting everything cool down and during a restart when it's running for a while lower the clock a bunch and see if that helps. 
HTH, let us know how it goes!
Good luck!


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: ChrisHaefner on March 04, 2016, 07:57:08 PM
So even though it runs for a while and stops it's bricked you think? Damn it I really wished I hadn't touched the firmware.
So it is actually running for a while?  If it's running then you didn't brick it, but something else is going on...  Can you log on to it and see the GUI?  How long does it stay on before shutting off?  It may be your PSU, try letting everything cool down and during a restart when it's running for a while lower the clock a bunch and see if that helps. 
HTH, let us know how it goes!
Good luck!
Yes that is exactly what it is doing!  Is the GUI like the kernel log? It does hash, but then shuts down. I did a full restart yesterday. My  I am wondering about the psu. But I won't have another one to test it against for a couple weeks


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: VRobb on March 04, 2016, 08:12:56 PM
So even though it runs for a while and stops it's bricked you think? Damn it I really wished I hadn't touched the firmware.
So it is actually running for a while?  If it's running then you didn't brick it, but something else is going on...  Can you log on to it and see the GUI?  How long does it stay on before shutting off?  It may be your PSU, try letting everything cool down and during a restart when it's running for a while lower the clock a bunch and see if that helps. 
HTH, let us know how it goes!
Good luck!
Yes that is exactly what it is doing!  Is the GUI like the kernel log? It does hash, but then shuts down. I did a full restart yesterday. My  I am wondering about the psu. But I won't have another one to test it against for a couple weeks
The GUI is the User Interface where you setup the miner, put in the pool addresses, and indeed can look at the kernel log.  If you are mining/hashing for a bit before it shuts down, I'd turn it on and get inside the GUI as quickly as possible and lower the clock setting by like 25% or 30% to see if it is the PSU shutting down after some time.  If it stays on then you know it's the PSU and can at least mine at a lower setting until you get a better one.

EDIT - You could also disconnect one of the hash boards (all the power PCIe connectors AND the data cable to the IO board) and see if it stays on with a lower load that way...


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: philipma1957 on March 04, 2016, 09:21:36 PM
So even though it runs for a while and stops it's bricked you think? Damn it I really wished I hadn't touched the firmware.
So it is actually running for a while?  If it's running then you didn't brick it, but something else is going on...  Can you log on to it and see the GUI?  How long does it stay on before shutting off?  It may be your PSU, try letting everything cool down and during a restart when it's running for a while lower the clock a bunch and see if that helps. 
HTH, let us know how it goes!
Good luck!
Yes that is exactly what it is doing!  Is the GUI like the kernel log? It does hash, but then shuts down. I did a full restart yesterday. My  I am wondering about the psu. But I won't have another one to test it against for a couple weeks
The GUI is the User Interface where you setup the miner, put in the pool addresses, and indeed can look at the kernel log.  If you are mining/hashing for a bit before it shuts down, I'd turn it on and get inside the GUI as quickly as possible and lower the clock setting by like 25% or 30% to see if it is the PSU shutting down after some time.  If it stays on then you know it's the PSU and can at least mine at a lower setting until you get a better one.

EDIT - You could also disconnect one of the hash boards (all the power PCIe connectors AND the data cable to the IO board) and see if it stays on with a lower load that way...



do this.  if you can get into gui you are not bricked.

so detach 2 hashboards and run with one see if the one stays up for an hour or so.

power down move to the next hashboard only attach it

so  first test is

 board 1 power on
 board 2 power off
 board 3 power off

give us results.

second test
board 1 power off
board 2 power on
board 3 power off

third test
board 1 power off
board 2 power off
board 3 power on

maybe only 1 board died

each test above do for an hour let us know results.




Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: RichBC on March 04, 2016, 09:32:57 PM
Also let us know which Batch of S7 you have and which version of firmware did you flash into it?

Rich


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: notlist3d on March 04, 2016, 10:17:33 PM
Also let us know which Batch of S7 you have and which version of firmware did you flash into it?

Rich

It should be batch 7 it was only one that was 5.06 Th/s.  And was actually only one rated over 5, so it should be a batch 7.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: RichBC on March 04, 2016, 10:27:30 PM
Also let us know which Batch of S7 you have and which version of firmware did you flash into it?

Rich

It should be batch 7 it was only one that was 5.06 Th/s.  And was actually only one rated over 5, so it should be a batch 7.

Yes agreed on it being Batch 7, would be good to know which firmware was flashed?

Rich


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: Legacy2005 on March 08, 2016, 08:39:57 PM
video has since been taken down. does this mean you fixed it? or is it a giant expensive paper weight.

what psu was/is being used? was/is the psu powerfull enough to run the unit? saw 1 guy selling 1 and he was using a 1300w evga, definitely not enough power for a unit like this.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: VRobb on March 08, 2016, 11:52:05 PM
I would hope it's the former and not the latter!

Hey Chris (OP), let us all know if our suggestions helped in any way...!!


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: notlist3d on March 09, 2016, 01:37:35 AM
video has since been taken down. does this mean you fixed it? or is it a giant expensive paper weight.

what psu was/is being used? was/is the psu powerfull enough to run the unit? saw 1 guy selling 1 and he was using a 1300w evga, definitely not enough power for a unit like this.

I'm guessing fixed it.  The power issue was a hard one as makes it where you can reflash over a bad flash ( and please please don't just update firmware on bitmain miners most of time no reason).

But worst comes to worse he should be able to buy a BBB on bitmain's site and get back up and running for not to bad.  And consider it a lesson learned.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: stealthants76 on March 09, 2016, 06:37:28 AM
Hi guys. I'm pretty new to this but been trying. Thing is I got my self a s7 from a guy who used it like few days...anyways. It been working real fine and so but for some reason one the blades is way high temperature than the others. Like 20c more. What's going on? Has some one else this or can some one help me out what can I do?
Thank you.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: Mikestang on March 09, 2016, 06:27:11 PM
If something is working good.... don't update the firmware.  There just is simply no reason.  Only bitmain one there was a great reason was one S3 firmware reset button did not work.... now that is huge deal update firmware.
I am the guy that begged people to never run a bitmaintech firmware.

many reason and stories abound.
Well there was also the S5 where the updated firmware would keep the machine from melting down in the event that it lost internet connection...


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: notlist3d on March 09, 2016, 07:50:48 PM
If something is working good.... don't update the firmware.  There just is simply no reason.  Only bitmain one there was a great reason was one S3 firmware reset button did not work.... now that is huge deal update firmware.
I am the guy that begged people to never run a bitmaintech firmware.

many reason and stories abound.
Well there was also the S5 where the updated firmware would keep the machine from melting down in the event that it lost internet connection...

That was a very hit/miss problem though.  I never had it in mine.   But I guess I always had big fan's pushing air.   But I not all that lost internet burned up.

Only bitmain machines I played with a lot on firmware I had were S4's and C1's.  Those I would put nicehash or regular depending on pay.  But my ones that did not use SD card (like S3,S5,etc) I tried to avoid upgrading like the plague.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: Legacy2005 on March 10, 2016, 02:39:24 PM
Hi guys. I'm pretty new to this but been trying. Thing is I got my self a s7 from a guy who used it like few days...anyways. It been working real fine and so but for some reason one the blades is way high temperature than the others. Like 20c more. What's going on? Has some one else this or can some one help me out what can I do?
Thank you.

have you tried taking the fans off and looking inside? the hot blade may have dust build up on it or something could have got lodged inside. hitting them with a blast of compressed air will knock any dust out or anything stuck in there.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: philipma1957 on March 11, 2016, 06:30:02 AM
If something is working good.... don't update the firmware.  There just is simply no reason.  Only bitmain one there was a great reason was one S3 firmware reset button did not work.... now that is huge deal update firmware.
I am the guy that begged people to never run a bitmaintech firmware.

many reason and stories abound.
Well there was also the S5 where the updated firmware would keep the machine from melting down in the event that it lost internet connection...

yep the firmware that gave manual fanspeed control is the only worth while one they had.

and for the s-5 I kept old firmware and manual fan speed via the psu and this


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OT58TL4?

I ran 4 fans with it on 2 s-5's so I never worried   about the bug.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: ChrisHaefner on March 29, 2016, 05:19:32 AM
Hi guys!  Sorry for being MIA. So what has happened so dar. I had quiet a few different people for several forums ask me about the power supply I was using.  It was a Dell server PSU I had custom made. What was happening last time I was running S7 5.06TH model was I did a hard reset with the button on the miner, then got a complete firmware update successfully. It would mine for a while then the fan would rev up really high and the miner would shut off. I had a few people question the delay switch to the control board. They thought I should try taking it off. Well I happen to have one of the earlier models of the S7 162 chip, so I figured I'd test the psu with it. I did this, and still something wasn't right. So while taking pictures of the psu to send to the person who build it, I found a short that had melted part of the delay and it actually came apart when taking the pictures. So I sent it back, and hopfully I will get it back this week. Once I get everything together again I will make a new video and see if the problem continues as well as what people think about the psu. I went this route because I have heard that if you can get a decent server psu, it is really the way to go? Any thoughts on that. Thank you guys tons for the help
!


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: notlist3d on March 29, 2016, 05:27:39 PM
Hi guys!  Sorry for being MIA. So what has happened so dar. I had quiet a few different people for several forums ask me about the power supply I was using.  It was a Dell server PSU I had custom made. What was happening last time I was running S7 5.06TH model was I did a hard reset with the button on the miner, then got a complete firmware update successfully. It would mine for a while then the fan would rev up really high and the miner would shut off. I had a few people question the delay switch to the control board. They thought I should try taking it off. Well I happen to have one of the earlier models of the S7 162 chip, so I figured I'd test the psu with it. I did this, and still something wasn't right. So while taking pictures of the psu to send to the person who build it, I found a short that had melted part of the delay and it actually came apart when taking the pictures. So I sent it back, and hopfully I will get it back this week. Once I get everything together again I will make a new video and see if the problem continues as well as what people think about the psu. I went this route because I have heard that if you can get a decent server psu, it is really the way to go? Any thoughts on that. Thank you guys tons for the help
!

The PSU can very a LOT on parts.  Do you know what kit your using and if got proper gauge cables?  Most kits would include these but always good to know.    But each kit does very.

Using a dell server PSU should work just fine, as long as you don't mix PSU's and hashing boards.  I can't seem to find the pictures of short to comment on it.  Am I overlooking it?


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: ChrisHaefner on March 30, 2016, 05:33:37 AM
I believe that the cables were correct?  But that's based on what the person who built it for me said. I took the pictures and videos down at the psu manufacturer request.  I'm not sure if he wants to start selling these are what, but I did it just out of respect. My new psu's are supposed to be here Friday.  So I plan on posting my whole set up that weekend. I'd welcome all positive and negative feedback. I just  (like everyone else)  want the best for my miners. So more to come. I really really hope it's not the miner itself. Only a poor psu.


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: RichBC on March 30, 2016, 05:48:53 AM
Hi guys!  Sorry for being MIA. So what has happened so dar. I had quiet a few different people for several forums ask me about the power supply I was using.  It was a Dell server PSU I had custom made. What was happening last time I was running S7 5.06TH model was I did a hard reset with the button on the miner, then got a complete firmware update successfully. It would mine for a while then the fan would rev up really high and the miner would shut off. I had a few people question the delay switch to the control board. They thought I should try taking it off. Well I happen to have one of the earlier models of the S7 162 chip, so I figured I'd test the psu with it. I did this, and still something wasn't right. So while taking pictures of the psu to send to the person who build it, I found a short that had melted part of the delay and it actually came apart when taking the pictures. So I sent it back, and hopfully I will get it back this week. Once I get everything together again I will make a new video and see if the problem continues as well as what people think about the psu. I went this route because I have heard that if you can get a decent server psu, it is really the way to go? Any thoughts on that. Thank you guys tons for the help
!


Have never heard of anyone using a delay switch? Do you have details of it's function and why you are using one? I find it strange that you have included one and also suspicious that there is what you describe as melting?


Rich




Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: ChrisHaefner on March 31, 2016, 05:27:25 AM
No I can't say I have ever heard of anyone using the delay switch on their miners.  I guess I just assumed the person I got it from knows more then me. So I guess for specifics it is an S7 5.06 TH. What was said to me is that the mining chips need to start before the controller. The delay is 4 seconds. I've never had a miner that needed it. Anyone else?


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: RichBC on March 31, 2016, 08:14:08 AM
No I can't say I have ever heard of anyone using the delay switch on their miners.  I guess I just assumed the person I got it from knows more then me. So I guess for specifics it is an S7 5.06 TH. What was said to me is that the mining chips need to start before the controller. The delay is 4 seconds. I've never had a miner that needed it. Anyone else?

This is only an issue if you were using multiple PSU with the Controller on a separate PSU, in which case you need to ensure the Hash Boards are powered first or at the same time as the Controller. For a single PSU it is completely unnecessary.

Rich


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: ChrisHaefner on April 02, 2016, 04:16:53 AM
I got the new psu's today. I have a picture and would love to see what you guys think. How do i post one? I don't know if you can see this but it's on my Google drive 20160401_141931.jpg


Title: Re: Help trouble shooting Antminer S7 5.06TH
Post by: notlist3d on April 02, 2016, 10:04:02 AM
I got the new psu's today. I have a picture and would love to see what you guys think. How do i post one? I don't know if you can see this but it's on my Google drive 20160401_141931.jpg

Did the new PSU's fix the problem?  I think that is the big thing we are wondering.

On images you should be able to post use the picture frame button and post the URL picture between code.  It say's insert image if you hover above it.   But you will need to use a image hosting site that works with bitcointalk. Some sites it does not display from right.