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Title: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 04, 2016, 11:45:36 AM
Is there some Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Stations or public Plug In?
I see in it a way to earn bitcoins or local currency for everyone, who have a own parking lot.
For who have a shop, this is a way to have clients with electric cars.

http://microgrid-solar.com/app/uploads/2010/09/electric-vehicle-charging-station-241x3002.jpg
Picture: microgrid-solar.com

http://cdn2.greendiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mitsubishi_solar_powered_ev_charging_station_image_title_viehr.jpg
Picture: greendiary.com


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: DimensionZ on March 04, 2016, 11:50:49 AM
I think most of the charging stations are free of charge if you mean the Tesla cars. I am not sure about the electric cars of other brands. Gas station owners may install such charging stations to earn profit.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 04, 2016, 12:05:09 PM
I think most of the charging stations are free of charge if you mean the Tesla cars.

They are not for free, You pay them, when You buy this car with about $ 100.000.
And when You make a accident with the Airbag open, there is no more "free charge" at Tesla station, until they give You a new attestation, they even will not sell to You repair parts. This is a exeptional company, i still be surprised, by people, who buy this product.

For $100.000. You can buy some 10 of 3-years Nissan LEAF, or 3 New.

In USA are different networks of charging stations.
AEROVIRONMENT http://evsolutions.avinc.com/services/subscriber_network
BLINK NETWORK (Operated by CarCharging Group)  http://www.blinknetwork.com
CHARGEPOINT   http://www.chargepoint.com
THE ELECTRIC CIRCUIT  http://www.lecircuitelectrique.com/index.en.html
EVGO  http://www.evgonetwork.com/
GE WATTSTATIONS https://www.gewattstation.com/connect/
GREENLOTS  http://greenlots.com/
SEMACONNECT   http://www.semaconnect.com
SHOREPOWER CONNECT www.shorepowerconnect.com

 And some 22.000 free plug ins installed by business owners for clients.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Kprawn on March 04, 2016, 03:49:31 PM
The companies have to charge something to re-coop their original investment and also for the maintenance of these panels and infrastructure. I am quite exited about the future

where free electricity or let's rather say cheap electricity will be common place. Bitcoin will be the ideal supplement as a payment method for these micro payments, when you

quickly pop into a parking and your car charge the battery while you shopping. Soon your car will pay automatically from your built in Bitcoin wallet for that purpose.. Parking

fees and charge fees, all in one.  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Cuidler on March 04, 2016, 04:04:35 PM
It is possible to receive these Bitcoin micropayments today, but it will take long before electric vehicle cars are commonly used. By that time maybe even Bitcoin LN could work, so the Bitcoin micropayments can be possisble in future as well. What are other payment options? Make banks or credit card companies rich I guess, so no thank you for these payment options...


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 04, 2016, 04:35:00 PM
but it will take long before electric vehicle cars are commonly used

Electric vehicle cars are around You.
You just see them not.

http://www.blogcdn.com/green.autoblog.com/media/2009/04/smith-electric-newton-promo.jpg

http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/images/outlander/overview/outlander-phev-engine.jpg

http://gm-volt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/chevy_s10_electric.jpg

http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Mercedes-Benz-B-Class-Electric-Drive-front-3-4-with-solar-panels.jpg

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Nissan_Leaf.jpg

http://www.hybridcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/2013-Chevrolet-Volt-008-medium.jpg

http://www.veicolielettricisardegna.it/public/nuovo/041220131315461.jpg


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: EdenHazard on March 04, 2016, 04:46:16 PM
Is there some Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Stations or public Plug In?
I see in it a way to earn bitcoins or local currency for everyone, who have a own parking lot.
For who have a shop, this is a way to have clients with electric cars.

http://microgrid-solar.com/app/uploads/2010/09/electric-vehicle-charging-station-241x3002.jpg
Picture: microgrid-solar.com

http://cdn2.greendiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mitsubishi_solar_powered_ev_charging_station_image_title_viehr.jpg
Picture: greendiary.com
nice thought, I was also thinking to implement bitcoin payment system in the parking and refueling, it will be easier for some people who really busy for pay with cash, and can pay with bitcoin whenever he wants.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: countryfree on March 04, 2016, 07:22:15 PM
I've already suggested the idea several times at trade fairs and various electric mobility events, but the people I've talked to were not much interested. There are some start-ups out there, but the companies who supply the electricity are big fish, with little interest towards unproven electronic currencies. They all favor the subscription model, by direct debit.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 04, 2016, 07:28:51 PM
with little interest towards unproven electronic currencies. They all favor the subscription model, by direct debit.

Why not the subscription model?
https://bitpay.com/ offer perfect service to paying with bitcoin and have the income in $.

I have asked to charge station constructor to create a software for small business and home owners for earn money with public plug ins for electric vehicles.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: knowhow on March 08, 2016, 02:26:19 PM
Well its a fresh new market but sure in the meantime this project should work,the future will involve bitcoin sooner or late .Its amazing someone starting to offer the charging station the option to pay with bitcoin .


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on March 08, 2016, 03:55:31 PM
Here in Nepal even we don't have enough electricity for total nation so this type of electric vehicle is hard to see over here other than some electric powered riskshaw which is very high in number in lots of cities here. I think giving them charging facility will be good option, but how those riskshaw drivers will learn complexity of bitcoin.  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 08, 2016, 08:48:34 PM
Here in Nepal even we don't have enough electricity for total nation

Check this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdQuIaPuDy0


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: iCrypt on March 08, 2016, 08:57:12 PM
 I've seen a lot of these charging stations listed as free. For example-- in store parking lots, huge parking garages, etc. I think it depends on where you live?


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: RodeoX on March 08, 2016, 09:02:38 PM
I fully expect that in the future my car will sense that it needs a charge then go take of it without me. Next time I get in the car will let me know that it's bitcoin wallet is getting low. With bitcoin machines can transact and there is no need for me to be involved.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: BARR_Official on March 08, 2016, 09:14:59 PM
Is there some Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Stations or public Plug In?
I see in it a way to earn bitcoins or local currency for everyone, who have a own parking lot.
For who have a shop, this is a way to have clients with electric cars.

http://microgrid-solar.com/app/uploads/2010/09/electric-vehicle-charging-station-241x3002.jpg
Picture: microgrid-solar.com

http://cdn2.greendiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mitsubishi_solar_powered_ev_charging_station_image_title_viehr.jpg
Picture: greendiary.com




If we all have electric cars, we'll need a charging dock at home.

If we all have a solar charging garage like that ^ in our front yard, then we can all pay each other in Bitcoin to recharge at each other's houses.  We'll never need a public charging station as long as we can find a neighborhood.

Maybe they'll finance the solar panels together with the car, so we can all afford them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: vinaha on March 09, 2016, 01:40:53 AM
I think they make it more complicated than need be. The first time you charge they require you to call in. You tell them the credit card you are going to use, and the type of vehicle you have. Then you are on record each time you swipe your card, even though it is only for $1 or two.

To use bitcoin for these transactions would not help their big brother system. That being said, I would really want to use bitcoin for this.



Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: gentlemand on March 09, 2016, 02:13:36 AM
Pair it with self driving cars and, hey, we're in the future. While you're relaxing having your nanotech enema your car nips away to get itself charged.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: romero121 on March 09, 2016, 04:42:42 AM
Hard to find one such power station. When entire people accept Bitcoin we can see such electric charge points over most of the cities which accepts Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Yakamoto on March 09, 2016, 04:49:58 AM
I can see this trend catching on in the future, but first we need to be able to ditch the cars that use gas completely and migrate to a completely electricity-based transportation system, or at least reserve it for semi trucks and other large-scale vehicles.

This can be realized via fusion energy, most likely anyways, and we'll have a far easier time allowing for electric cars to be powered.

This is good news, though. I hope more franchises start doing this in the future.

It's also great reading this because it means that companies haven't fully given up on Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Kakmakr on March 09, 2016, 07:10:36 AM
The world has moved toward <Clean energy> and away from fossil fuel and the Oil companies are now seeing that with the low fuel prices. They have manipulated the supply for years and soon they will be disrupted by the alternative energies like electricity. The problem is, <Clean> energy is expensive and infrastructure to facilitate this has to be built. The electric cars is also prohibitively expensive and the battery replacement is inevitable and also expensive.

One day, we will charge our cars at home, with the electricity we generate ourselves and this will also be part of our remuneration package at work, to charge your vehicle. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: DimensionZ on March 09, 2016, 07:17:18 AM
Most of the public charging stations will be free. Only the batteries will be paid when you swap the old one with a new one. If you want to pay for a charge at other people's stations is up to you but you could just charge it at home anyways. No one has put a gun to your head to pay for charging.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 09, 2016, 07:43:29 AM
The problem is, <Clean> energy is expensive and infrastructure to facilitate this has to be built. The electric cars is also prohibitively expensive and the battery replacement is inevitable and also expensive.

One day, we will charge our cars at home, with the electricity we generate ourselves and this will also be part of our remuneration package at work, to charge your vehicle. 

No.
What do You call as expensive?
Just check the price of 3-Years Nissan LEAF or Reanult ZOE.
And the battery life is about 10 Years, just replace, and go.
The price is not to high in confront with the cost for 100 km.

The price of NEW electric vehicle is artificial, just buy used one, or km. 0.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 09, 2016, 07:44:34 AM
Most of the public charging stations will be free.

Who give You the energy for free?


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 09, 2016, 07:47:54 AM
Hard to find one such power station.

I'm here to find, who will open in own parklot a bitcoin recharge station.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: RealPhotoshoper on March 09, 2016, 08:16:00 AM
Is there some Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Stations or public Plug In?
I see in it a way to earn bitcoins or local currency for everyone, who have a own parking lot.
For who have a shop, this is a way to have clients with electric cars.

http://microgrid-solar.com/app/uploads/2010/09/electric-vehicle-charging-station-241x3002.jpg
Picture: microgrid-solar.com

http://cdn2.greendiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mitsubishi_solar_powered_ev_charging_station_image_title_viehr.jpg
Picture: greendiary.com
i dont see any Electric Vehicle Public Charging Stations in my country,if bitcoin mass adopted,i just hope some gas station and any minimarket will accept bitcoin.
and i also hope burger king and Mc Donald will accept soon,will be great experience if ican spen bitcoin a long road when i drive.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 09, 2016, 08:29:50 AM
i dont see any Electric Vehicle Public Charging Stations in my country

How is called this country?


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: knowhow on March 10, 2016, 01:51:12 PM
Well they may not charge for a while as this is a test market that can grow fast,as long the station has been developed by the same company that made the electric car,meaning you will just pay the car and get free energy its possible,i believe the same way you can pay to charge with bitcoin the company will accept bitcoin to buy the car as well.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: DeathAngel on March 10, 2016, 01:54:00 PM
I really doubt it.

Who buys an electric car any way, seems like an idea for some kind of eco pussy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: n0ne on March 10, 2016, 02:00:17 PM
How is the pricing done for charging the vehicles. It has got the smallest units for payment which is much useful if asked per unit without any minimal charges.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 10, 2016, 02:15:32 PM
How is the pricing done for charging the vehicles.

Pricing is on the side of Charching Station / Plug-in Owner.
If You will to share Your electricity, You can start to do it just today.
Put on the street a plug-in and do access to who is paying You a fee with Bitcoin code.
Check local rules about Public Plug-In's security Rules and how to conduct such commercial activity in Your country.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: ahpku on March 10, 2016, 02:47:00 PM
I fully expect that in the future my car will sense that it needs a charge then go take of it without me. Next time I get in the car will let me know that it's bitcoin wallet is getting low. With bitcoin machines can transact and there is no need for me to be involved.

But an honest electric car would tell you to stop being weird & just buy a real car, with real money.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 10, 2016, 02:59:13 PM
just buy a real car, with real money.

What is the price of real 3-Years used Renault ZOE in Your Country?

http://www.elektroautor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Renault-ZOE-041.jpg


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: ahpku on March 10, 2016, 03:17:23 PM
just buy a real car, with real money.

What is the price of real 3-Years used Renault ZOE in Your Country?
...

>Renault
>Electric Renault
>Used electric Renault

http://s27.postimg.org/twny50o2b/Capture.png

Clown cars illegal in my country.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: nickenburg on March 10, 2016, 03:21:44 PM
I thino that is a really good idea since electric vehicles are something of the future,  and this technology is only going to evolve.
Just like Bitcoin so i think they would nicely fit togheter.
But you must also know that these electric motors only are going te be better,  so maybe those charging stations wont be neccesary at all.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 10, 2016, 03:23:21 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02971/The_ultra-low_emis_2971945b.jpg

How much of Renault ZOE are in EU?


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 10, 2016, 03:25:59 PM
But you must also know that these electric motors only are going te be better


To change the battery of Renault ZOE are neccesary 3 minutes.
Just carry another one, and You will tvice the mileage.
But who need to go daily more, than 60 km?


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: NeuroticFish on March 10, 2016, 03:30:24 PM
Is there some Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Stations or public Plug In?
I see in it a way to earn bitcoins or local currency for everyone, who have a own parking lot.
For who have a shop, this is a way to have clients with electric cars.

Unless the tech changes, it takes too long to charge the electric car, although it's free in case of a some manufacturers.
If you want to swap the battery it costs money, but it needs more things for a shop to have: people that can change the battery, spare batteries, means to charge the spare batteries and keep them fully charged. People with electric cars are still scarce, so it may just not worth it for most shops.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 10, 2016, 03:37:45 PM

 1 - it takes too long to charge the electric car

2 -  People with electric cars are still scarce, so it may just not worth it for most shops.


1- How to Use a Fast AC Charger - Renault Zoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzqN_i59YZg

2 - People with EV are much rich, they pay not for Oil prices


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: iv4n on March 10, 2016, 03:43:03 PM

 1 - it takes too long to charge the electric car

2 -  People with electric cars are still scarce, so it may just not worth it for most shops.


1- How to Use a Fast AC Charger - Renault Zoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzqN_i59YZg

2 - People with EV are much rich, they pay not for Oil prices

Battery capacity and the capability of handling faster charging are both increasing, and methods of charging have needed to change and improve, New options have also been introduced. I think I watch somewhere in England if u pay around 100 pound u can drive and change battery when ever u wish on their station ( and as I remember they have a lot of stations across the country).

This is interesting one, here we can see what is future...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z87U8qVxNio (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z87U8qVxNio)


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: NeuroticFish on March 10, 2016, 03:46:53 PM

 1 - it takes too long to charge the electric car

2 -  People with electric cars are still scarce, so it may just not worth it for most shops.


1- How to Use a Fast AC Charger - Renault Zoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzqN_i59YZg

2 - People with EV are much rich, they pay not for Oil prices

1. Only 2 type of cars have fast charger and I don't know how long it actually charges.
2. What I meant is that there are not too many electric cars. And if only one / week will come to your shop to charge the car, it's not worth it for the shop owner.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 10, 2016, 03:50:43 PM

Battery capacity

For batteries fobic people are made PLUG-IN HYBRID vehicles.
Just go on electricity price, and if it finish - go with Oil and recharge the battery in recuperation mode.

we can see what is future...

Explain me, what the owner of Tesla become as Service, after his Airbag will be open?

- No more "free" recharge at Tesla station, and No more repair parts from "Tesla" service. A Perfect option for a over $100000 EV.

Better talk about "Tesla" in other place.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: qiwoman2 on March 11, 2016, 08:05:56 AM
This would actually be a really good idea I think because Bitcoin is easy to use and for many it would be a nice and quick alternative to fumbling with cash. Also because Bitcoin is electronic it also ties in with the saving energy ethos instead of using paper money which takes away a lot of trees.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 11, 2016, 10:22:04 AM
This would actually be a really good idea
For a bitcoin enthusiast - yes.

I think because Bitcoin is easy to use
Plase, show me a FAQ, that would be enough good to entroduce fast to bitcoin some people of age 55.


and for many it would be a nice and quick alternative to fumbling with cash.
Credit card and other electronic payment methods are with no cash

Also because Bitcoin is electronic it also ties in with the saving energy ethos
How much CO2 is produced from running minning computers every day?
The electricity is produced by burning gas, carbon, garbage, oil, and only nuclear stations give no CO2.
I see no point with "saving energy" here.

instead of using paper money which takes away a lot of trees.
Why do You worried about trees?
The oxygen is produced by plancton in Oceanes. Trees produce no oxygen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: ctlaltdefeat on March 11, 2016, 02:34:50 PM
Is there some Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Stations or public Plug In?
I see in it a way to earn bitcoins or local currency for everyone, who have a own parking lot.
For who have a shop, this is a way to have clients with electric cars.

http://microgrid-solar.com/app/uploads/2010/09/electric-vehicle-charging-station-241x3002.jpg
Picture: microgrid-solar.com

http://cdn2.greendiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mitsubishi_solar_powered_ev_charging_station_image_title_viehr.jpg
Picture: greendiary.com
if bitcoin goes mainstream and applicable in every store or online shop,why not to try in Electric Vehicle Public Charging Stations,its will great,but must be have some good step on it,how to tell oldman and disability people,i think they still have no knowledge how to use bitcoin as payment,there should be have poster that tell everyone how to use that machine with bitcoin payment.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: ahpku on March 11, 2016, 02:52:21 PM
I have a really great idea:

Electric cars have huge batteries, which means plenty of electricity. And what uses plenty of electricity? That's right, Bitcoin miners!

What I propose is we build electric cars with built-in Bitcoin miners, and when those cars pull into a charging station, they just pay for the electricity with the bitcoins they mined.
Like all brilliant ideas, seems self-evident now that I explained it to you, don't it?
:)


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: vinaha on March 11, 2016, 04:45:07 PM
But you must also know that these electric motors only are going te be better


To change the battery of Renault ZOE are neccesary 3 minutes.
Just carry another one, and You will tvice the mileage.
But who need to go daily more, than 60 km?

60km is a trip to my mailbox and back.


Title: Re: Bitcoin accepting Electric Vehicle Public Charging Station
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 12, 2016, 12:05:43 PM


60km is a trip to my mailbox and back.

The ZOE is restricted to about 100 miles of mixed driving (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/zoe)

Check plug-in hybryde autonomy, if You have no fast chargers and no public plug-ins around.
www.plugshare.com