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Title: ETH DEAD
Post by: shitcointalk101 on March 06, 2016, 02:57:44 PM
Ether just dumped permanently, get out now while you still can quickly!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
It's collapsing back to 0.005


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: 50cent_rapper on March 06, 2016, 03:02:27 PM
Ether just dumped permanently, get out now while you still can quickly!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
It's collapsing back to 0.005

Nice nickname  ;D


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: shitcointalk101 on March 06, 2016, 03:04:02 PM
Ether just dumped permanently, get out now while you still can quickly!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
It's collapsing back to 0.005

Nice nickname  ;D

Get off ethereum now, whales are exiting. No more uptrend comin. It's dead, whales made their profits.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: WoJJ78 on March 06, 2016, 03:08:27 PM
Somebody sold 1500 BTC worth of ether, calm your tits.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: alinda on March 06, 2016, 03:11:12 PM
eth will up again


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: shitcointalk101 on March 06, 2016, 03:11:39 PM
Somebody sold 1500 BTC worth of ether, calm your tits.

It's becoming worthless. We all have to sell now if we still have any.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: densuj on March 06, 2016, 03:15:16 PM
I have sold out, then wait and see  ;D


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: shitcointalk101 on March 06, 2016, 03:18:25 PM
I have sold out, then wait and see  ;D

That was a wise decision because we will see above 0.03 price never again. This dump started a permanent down trend.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: Amadues on March 06, 2016, 03:20:10 PM
Ether just dumped permanently, get out now while you still can quickly!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
It's collapsing back to 0.005

Also LTC touch 1 dollar so far or Doge 30 satoshi... then see now (or the past) the value....
A dump or a pump doesn't mean anything in a long period but thanks for advice!


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: thms on March 06, 2016, 04:18:58 PM
You totally convinced me... selling right now...  ::)


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: shitcointalk101 on March 06, 2016, 04:21:35 PM
You totally convinced me... selling right now...  ::)

You made a wise decision. Ether moon is over.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: bigfryguy on March 06, 2016, 04:29:51 PM
ETH could easilly pump again, but that isnt the real problem.

ETH is controlled by whoever bought the ICO (probably the dev)

there should be at least 10x's more ETH on the order books then there is right now, and that screams ICO scam.
the only way the order book makes sense is if the people who profited from the ICO are also the same people who bought the vast majority of the coins.
(I dont know what controls are in place to stop owners of an asset from selling to themselves, but hopefully there are some)

If this is the case, we are looking at what is at the worst case a major fraud event, or at best case what could be considerred one gigantic premine.


or maybe its what people have been saying and people cant figure out how to transfer coins to an exchange..... but for any other project that would be called broken.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: Kotone on March 06, 2016, 04:34:27 PM
Ether just dumped permanently, get out now while you still can quickly!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
It's collapsing back to 0.005
Yes its -16% in 24 hours now.
All bitcoin believers know this shit will happen.
Wheres ETH believers now eh?


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 06, 2016, 04:37:15 PM
Somebody sold 1500 BTC worth of ether, calm your tits.

Could even be insiders selling to themselves at lower prices to try to manipulate the market to think that 1500 BTC can exit without driving the price too low.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: fortunecrypto on March 06, 2016, 04:39:25 PM
I don't have much Ethreum here but I need to see what will happen in 3 days if the trend continues to be on a downfall,it's so funny I just read on one thread where one guy pawn his house just to buy Ethereum..


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: Red-Apple on March 06, 2016, 04:56:13 PM
this is totally normal all those investors in ETH pulled their money out of bitcoin to invest in ETH just as a short term quick profit thingy, so obviously they are going to pull out and go back to bitcoin eventually.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: enhu on March 06, 2016, 04:56:47 PM
I knew it!  ;D   ETH didn't plan everything at all to convince everyone. if they did, they should have created a forum built in SMF so they can monetize ads paying ETH to make it rolling.
So that who so ever leave bitcointalk could go there and become legendary.. but of course bitcoin believers won't do that. theyre die hard fan. if it weren't for BTC, these alts were nothing.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: freshman777 on March 06, 2016, 04:58:00 PM
stoat disappeared.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 06, 2016, 04:58:29 PM
stoat disappeared.

Good point if true. Except maybe he was sleeping. He posted within the past 12 hours, and he is online now.

PoC2 was announced today March 5 on Vitalik's blog and I pointed out today why it can't scale (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg14110584#msg14110584). Sell the news?


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: partysaurus on March 06, 2016, 04:59:20 PM
stoat disappeared.

ofc he did :) spammed like it was hes job for 1 week , being rude to everyone that said eth was a scam or over hyped , and when it goes down hes gone :P


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: Minecache on March 06, 2016, 05:09:19 PM
If you think smart contracts are dead you're deluded. This is just the beginning.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 06, 2016, 05:09:48 PM
This is the most intense decline yet in this pump. This could be the stampede. If you are going to sell, you might be competing against 1000 others who want to sell. We will soon know, and if it is the stampede, then only a few will get out at these prices.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on March 06, 2016, 05:10:23 PM
Ether just dumped permanently, get out now while you still can quickly!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
It's collapsing back to 0.005
Yes its -16% in 24 hours now.
All bitcoin believers know this shit will happen.
Wheres ETH believers now eh?
That's nothing!  Just you wait, sonny. We'll be at 0.04 in no time.  Hell, bitcoin will be priced in terms of ETH instead of the other way around, blah blah blah blah blah.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 06, 2016, 05:11:28 PM
If you think smart contracts are dead you're deluded. This is just the beginning.

I didn't say that. But Ethereum is no closer to solving the fundamental issues than before they started with $18 million wasted. I am not going to repeat the entire Ethereum Paradox thread again. You can read it or remain ignorant. It is your choice. I know what the issues are. And I know who knows how to solve them and isn't Ethereum.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: thms on March 06, 2016, 05:30:03 PM
This is the most intense decline yet in this pump. This could be the stampede. If you are going to sell, you might be competing against 1000 others who want to sell. We will soon know, and if it is the stampede, then only a few will get out at these prices.


Today is Sunday, ETH price is still the same as it was on Friday...  ::)

PS: And the Chinese are not even in the market yet...


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: Listent on March 06, 2016, 05:31:00 PM
Ether just dumped permanently, get out now while you still can quickly!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
It's collapsing back to 0.005
Yes its -16% in 24 hours now.
All bitcoin believers know this shit will happen.
Wheres ETH believers now eh?
That's nothing!  Just you wait, sonny. We'll be at 0.04 in no time.  Hell, bitcoin will be priced in terms of ETH instead of the other way around, blah blah blah blah blah.

I hope the price do not rise to 0.04 in no time. I would like the price to consolidate below 0.03 for a few months.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 06, 2016, 05:33:34 PM
This is the most intense decline yet in this pump. This could be the stampede. If you are going to sell, you might be competing against 1000 others who want to sell. We will soon know, and if it is the stampede, then only a few will get out at these prices.


Today is Sunday, ETH price is still the same as it was on Friday...  ::)

The trajectory is the steepest reversal thus far, but it is too premature to know if this trajectory (slope) will continue. That is why I said "we will soon know".

But for those that want to get out at these prices, if it is the stampede, then it may be too late if they wait to confirm.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: Minecache on March 06, 2016, 05:33:54 PM
Ether just dumped permanently, get out now while you still can quickly!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
It's collapsing back to 0.005
Yes its -16% in 24 hours now.
All bitcoin believers know this shit will happen.
Wheres ETH believers now eh?
That's nothing!  Just you wait, sonny. We'll be at 0.04 in no time.  Hell, bitcoin will be priced in terms of ETH instead of the other way around, blah blah blah blah blah.

I hope the price do not rise to 0.04 in no time. I would like the price to consolidate below 0.03 for a few months.
This is what the haters of Ethereum forget. A small decline and we can get support and consolidation.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: Minecache on March 06, 2016, 05:35:20 PM
This is the most intense decline yet in this pump. This could be the stampede. If you are going to sell, you might be competing against 1000 others who want to sell. We will soon know, and if it is the stampede, then only a few will get out at these prices.


Today is Sunday, ETH price is still the same as it was on Friday...  ::)

The trajectory is the steepest reversal thus far, but it is too premature to know if this trajectory (slope) will continue. That is why I said "we will soon know".

But for those that want to get out at these prices, if it is the stampede, then it may be too late if they wait to confirm.
People seem to forget that homestead is released next week and it will be more good news for ETH holders.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: mining1 on March 06, 2016, 05:36:04 PM
@TPTB_need_war as long as there are solutions,they ll find them or a workaround atleast.I know nothing about programming but youre trying too hard,do you really think that if there are solutions they wont find them?Or atleast a workaround them ?I see 2 posibilities:1.youre either trying to start your own project.
2. Youre looking for a job and youre starring into ethereum's direction.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 06, 2016, 05:37:31 PM
@TPTB_need_war as long as there are solutions,they ll find them or a workaround atleast.

Yes there is only one solution, but Ethereum has really no chance in hell of implementing it. Because the decentralized scalability solution requires user adoption marketing, which they have no clue how to do.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: mining1 on March 06, 2016, 05:43:14 PM
And to that guy shittalk,it doesnt even matter if whales dump ether,the project will go on because,compared to other cryptos like LTC or even BTC,its not meant to be just crypto money that can be speculated on,but more.So,i really hope whales dump it and it goes down to 2$,i really do.
Also TPTB ,i dont think any of those that invested/mined ethereum thought that ethereum is the ultimate perfect blockchain and everything thats tried on top of it will work.As i said,im like | | to programming and hell,i expect it to have shitloads of problems which eventually will be sorted out,one way or another.The only way for ethereum to fail,as i see it: 1.Another team releases another revolutionary blockchain technology 2.Devs fuck it up themselves,badly .3 Putin sends spetsnaz to eliminate vbuterin.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 06, 2016, 05:47:29 PM
And to that guy shittalk,it doesnt even matter if whales dump ether,the project will go on because,compared to other cryptos like LTC or even BTC,its are not meant to be just crypto money that can be speculated on,but more.So,i really hope whales dump it and it goes down to 2$,i really do.

Except that Ethereum needs more than $200,000 per month to continue operating and they were down to $750,000 cash and 1.65 million ETH:

The foundation currently has ~1.65 million ETH, plus ~$750k in non-ETH assets. 1650000 * 6.1 + 750000 = $10,815,000. Based on our current ~$200k/month burn rate, that will last us ~54 months ~= 4.5 years. That said, we are planning some substantial expansions which will increase our expenses but also get Casper and other fun stuff out the door much faster, and we are also starting to get interest for corporate sponsorships coming in, which could secure us a more sustainable funding path in the long term.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: LEONPATTON on March 06, 2016, 05:52:15 PM
Anyone who cares to listen to the ETH doom mongers should just sell them. Clearly theres a tad of price manipulation going on which happens with every coin. A few satoshi dips and the doom monger maid safe and ripple bag holders are out in force. Just a few months ago the same fear mongers were saying BTC was dead.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: LEONPATTON on March 06, 2016, 05:56:04 PM
And to that guy shittalk,it doesnt even matter if whales dump ether,the project will go on because,compared to other cryptos like LTC or even BTC,its are not meant to be just crypto money that can be speculated on,but more.So,i really hope whales dump it and it goes down to 2$,i really do.

Except that Ethereum needs more than $200,000 per month to continue operating and they were down to $750,000 cash and 1.65 million ETH:

The foundation currently has ~1.65 million ETH, plus ~$750k in non-ETH assets. 1650000 * 6.1 + 750000 = $10,815,000. Based on our current ~$200k/month burn rate, that will last us ~54 months ~= 4.5 years. That said, we are planning some substantial expansions which will increase our expenses but also get Casper and other fun stuff out the door much faster, and we are also starting to get interest for corporate sponsorships coming in, which could secure us a more sustainable funding path in the long term.

This guy  ::)
Ever since you arrived here you've been the ultimate doom monger using multiple aliases spreading the same fear trivia. Your the type who sat by watching BTC rise and never had the courage to buy in. Your way of venting your yellow streak is to vent against every successful coin. What have you ever made?


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 06, 2016, 06:00:44 PM
Clearly theres a tad of price manipulation

Just a tad  ::)


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: Minecache on March 06, 2016, 06:01:50 PM
And to that guy shittalk,it doesnt even matter if whales dump ether,the project will go on because,compared to other cryptos like LTC or even BTC,its are not meant to be just crypto money that can be speculated on,but more.So,i really hope whales dump it and it goes down to 2$,i really do.
Also TPTB ,i dont think any of those that invested/mined ethereum thought that ethereum is the ultimate perfect blockchain and everything thats tried on top of it will work.As i said,im like | | to programming and hell,i expect it to have shitloads of problems which eventually will be sorted out,one way or another.The only way for ethereum to fail,as i see it: 1.Another team releases another revolutionary blockchain technology 2.Devs fuck it up themselves,badly .3 Putin sends spetsnaz to eliminate vbuterin.

Well said.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 06, 2016, 06:13:14 PM
If Bitcoin had a shitload of problems, it wouldn't be where it is today.

Windows Phone had a shitload of problems and is DEAD.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: Embat on March 06, 2016, 06:20:24 PM
Reading more of your comments I feel like in panic room. Calm down and breathe ETH is a magnificent project and everybody who sell today will sorry for this.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 06, 2016, 06:26:23 PM
So many newbie sockpuppet shills. Any Hero or Legendary who support Ethereum? I have a Hero member account (AnonyMint) and a Sr. Member account.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: cdub on March 06, 2016, 06:35:31 PM
So many newbie sockpuppet shills. Any Hero or Legendary who support Ethereum? I have a Hero member account (AnonyMint) and a Sr. Member account.
Hey, I thought you were leaving the forums until you were ready to come back with your saviorcoin?
Just checking. Not that I mind. Some of your posts are thought provoking, at least. :D
If you make claims and don't follow through, very often, your credibility will be shot before you know it.
Oh, don't worry, I'll still buy some of whatever you release and make money off that as well.  :)

Just pointing out that constantly and relentlessly complaining about other products/supporters is not the way to sell your "superior" product.
Tell us why yours is better, and let us know how to get involved. We're all ears.



Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: Xexen4 on March 06, 2016, 06:39:18 PM
eth is an expensive toys for whales :D


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: btcxyzzz on March 06, 2016, 07:10:03 PM
Ether just dumped permanently, get out now while you still can quickly!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
It's collapsing back to 0.005

shitcointalk101 shittalk101

FTFY


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: shitcointalk101 on March 06, 2016, 07:20:15 PM
Ether just dumped permanently, get out now while you still can quickly!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
It's collapsing back to 0.005

shitcointalk101 shittalk101

FTFY

Whatever man, but eth is going to be dumped so hard it can't never moon again truss me


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: partysaurus on March 06, 2016, 07:41:45 PM
Ether just dumped permanently, get out now while you still can quickly!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
It's collapsing back to 0.005

shitcointalk101 shittalk101

FTFY

Whatever man, but eth is going to be dumped so hard it can't never moon again truss me

its going back to the shadows where it came before all the hype train , and paid hypers got into the picture :D


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: vlom on March 06, 2016, 07:46:59 PM
Ether just dumped permanently,

really?

i don't think so. it just speeds up for the next level 0.05.



Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: shitcointalk101 on March 06, 2016, 07:48:26 PM
Ether just dumped permanently, get out now while you still can quickly!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
It's collapsing back to 0.005

shitcointalk101 shittalk101

FTFY

Whatever man, but eth is going to be dumped so hard it can't never moon again truss me

its going back to the shadows where it came before all the hype train , and paid hypers got into the picture :D

There's no chois but dump at loss because after while it becomes even a bigger loss


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: myxamop on March 06, 2016, 08:26:10 PM
Eth will be huge, haters  will be rekt.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: shitcointalk101 on March 06, 2016, 08:40:57 PM
Eth will be huge, haters  will be rekt.

a paid troll  :)


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: shitcointalk101 on March 06, 2016, 10:04:14 PM
There's not even real info available about ethereum on this forum just paid troll scammer rumors.
It's a scam and will be dumped to ground and never rise again. It's permanently dead.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 07, 2016, 09:37:09 AM
Just pointing out that constantly and relentlessly complaining about other products/supporters is not the way to sell your "superior" product.

I analyze technology. You P&D. We have different professions.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 07, 2016, 01:24:18 PM
About now is the time to panic if you haven't already sold.

The smart money has probably already moved to shorting. Notice stoat has gone entirely silent.

No guarantee, but the decline is the most severe by a wide margin and it looks like the first real significant turn from the "to da moon" trajectory. There must be too many sellers for the insiders to swallow in order to continue the price manipulation. Perhaps the insiders have moved short as well if there is a way to short this with reasonable liquidity. Perhaps they will try to restart the P&D from a lower level.

I think the truth about Ethereum is starting to get out (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg14124346#msg14124346).


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: JosNekoKopa on March 07, 2016, 02:33:02 PM
So many newbie sockpuppet shills. Any Hero or Legendary who support Ethereum? I have a Hero member account (AnonyMint) and a Sr. Member account.
I have noticed this myself also.

I don't know why is there need for so many topics about ETH? I mean this hype have no boundaries. If ETH so desperately need new investors then this i not so good investment after all. That been no ICO distibition, i would be first in line to buy it!


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: Xiestar on March 07, 2016, 02:34:50 PM
So many newbie sockpuppet shills. Any Hero or Legendary who support Ethereum? I have a Hero member account (AnonyMint) and a Sr. Member account.
I have noticed this myself also.

I don't know why is there need for so many topics about ETH? I mean this hype have no boundaries. If ETH so desperately need new investors then this i not so good investment after all. That been no ICO distibition, i would be first in line to buy it!

But this top is about the death of Ethereum. So some people think the price is too high and it will die sooner or later.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: JosNekoKopa on March 07, 2016, 02:40:03 PM
But this top is about the death of Ethereum. So some people think the price is too high and it will die sooner or later.
This is so evident like 90 % of all altcoins.
Only a small number of really good coins with real purpose and very good technology behind it, can expect not to be forgotten.
There are so many coins for every possible world : lemon, coffee ,banana, orange, moon, social coin!?
 ;D...And where are they now?


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: JosNekoKopa on March 07, 2016, 02:51:03 PM
Eth will be huge, haters  will be rekt.
So many times i have seen same enthusiasm, pump and dump.
People always forget about their losses and they ready to jump again if they see "opportunity".

Why they must use ICO for collecting funds?
Why this was not normal project like others no premium no ico..POW+POS or something.
They can get their fund like others through mining like others.
 ???


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: Minecache on March 07, 2016, 03:10:43 PM
Eth will be huge, haters  will be rekt.
So many times i have seen same enthusiasm, pump and dump.
People always forget about their losses and they ready to jump again if they see "opportunity".

Why they must use ICO for collecting funds?
Why this was not normal project like others no premium no ico..POW+POS or something.
They can get their fund like others through mining like others.
 ???
Presale enables the devs to immediately get on with allocating all resource to development work and not simply mining. As proven by the speed Ethereum has got to 1/10th of bitcoins value in a matter of months. The devs focus on building the ecosystem and others developing dapps.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 07, 2016, 03:20:57 PM
Eth will be huge, haters  will be rekt.
So many times i have seen same enthusiasm, pump and dump.
People always forget about their losses and they ready to jump again if they see "opportunity".

Why they must use ICO for collecting funds?
Why this was not normal project like others no premium no ico..POW+POS or something.
They can get their fund like others through mining like others.
 ???
Presale enables the devs to immediately get on with allocating all resource to development work and not simply mining. As proven by the speed Ethereum has got to 1/10th of bitcoins value in a matter of months. The devs focus on building the ecosystem and others developing dapps.

Lying pumper. The market cap is fake. The float is miniscule:

Quote
Already getting dumped like crashy



RIP ETH

we return to 0.0020 BTC
I'm seeing way too much buy support still for it to ga back to those levels, I've got a feeling that we won't see it drop below 0.015 btc too soon.
Just look at that buy wall over at Poloniex, no way it's going back to 0.002.

https://i.imgur.com/SkoD1um.png

There are 4.1 mil  USD equivalent in whole Bid side of order book.
There are 767 mils  USD equivalent in existing ETH right now.
Poloniex is the ONLY exchange with noticeable values.
In common, ETH holders lost 300 mils USD of nominal value in their holdings since yesterday's 0.031 eth/btc peak.
There are 360 confirmation required to deposit ETH to Poloniex. And verifications required for amounts over 2k USD daily.

I think, 0.002 is reasonable goal for shorting..


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: iv4n on March 07, 2016, 03:26:06 PM
On yobit eth is 10 $ in this moment, what is happening. Why people go so crazy this days about this coin? Can anyone give some normal and objective explanation or people will continue to argue still about this. Few days ago I wanted to buy some ethererium, but after all this crazy topics and comments I'm totally confused.


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: TPTB_need_war on March 07, 2016, 03:30:26 PM
On yobit eth is 10 $ in this moment, what is happening. Why people go so crazy this days about this coin? Can anyone give some normal and objective explanation or people will continue to argue still about this. Few days ago I wanted to buy some ethererium, but after all this crazy topics and comments I'm totally confused.

There is no arguing. I have stated the technological facts. There has been no technological rebuttal. Not a single one. Zilch. Only silly P&D noise from the other side to confuse you (to cause you to buy the pump).


Title: Re: ETH DEAD
Post by: JosNekoKopa on March 08, 2016, 03:28:22 PM
On yobit eth is 10 $ in this moment, what is happening. Why people go so crazy this days about this coin? Can anyone give some normal and objective explanation or people will continue to argue still about this. Few days ago I wanted to buy some ethererium, but after all this crazy topics and comments I'm totally confused.

There is no arguing. I have stated the technological facts. There has been no technological rebuttal. Not a single one. Zilch. Only silly P&D noise from the other side to confuse you (to cause you to buy the pump).
This is how most of ico coins work.
Most of gained coins will be used for hype and the rest of in advance of paid money for the project will be salary for developers. This is insane. What if all this project is just unmanageable? What then?

I also remember CRAIG coin.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=780334.3080
"Good idea" without pump,  just fiasko.