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Economy => Currency exchange => Topic started by: ZIGGAP on January 29, 2013, 03:00:15 AM



Title: ZIGGAP.com - CHEAPEST cash deposit in the USA .
Post by: ZIGGAP on January 29, 2013, 03:00:15 AM

Introducing the grand opening of ZIGGAP.com (https://www.ziggap.com).

What is ZIGGAP?

It's not your mom's meatloaf! ZIGGAP is the least expensive way to buy Bitcoin in the US via bank cash deposit, and the most convenient way to buy period. Not only that, but it's the only site in the world offering such a dedicated level of customer support. Only at ZIGGAP is there a dedicated phone number to call, a live chat system that is manned 12 hours per day, and a highly responsive prioritized ticket system.

This support system is available to all who are interested in Bitcoin even if you're not our customer.

ZIGGAP is currently accepting these payment methods:

In nearly any country in the world:

Western Union
Moneygram



You'll soon even be able to link your bank account and credit card in order to buy Bitcoin even more easily and conveniently.



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We have plenty more features in stock for you so stay tuned. In the mean time check us out and place an order at https://www.ZIGGAP.com (https://www.ZIGGAP.com)


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: EPiSKiNG on January 29, 2013, 03:49:06 AM
I have used this service during the beta.  ZIGGAP is a trusted way for anyone, newb or vet to purchase a decent amount of bitcoin quickly.  Cash bank deposit is probably the easiest, most widely used and acceptable form of payment, and these guys do it well. 

They're quick, efficient, and personable people.

Happy Bitcoining!
-EP

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=EPiSKiNG-&sign=ANY&type=RECV


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: LoweryCBS on January 29, 2013, 05:16:28 PM
Um... Wow! I had to try out the new guys on the block, and it was smooth and EASY :)

ZIGGAP is now my standard anwser to, "How do I get $ to BTC?"



                https://i.imgur.com/Y8arAka.png



Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: ZIGGAP on January 29, 2013, 06:31:34 PM
Um... Wow! I had to try out the new guys on the block, and it was smooth and EASY :)

ZIGGAP is now my standard anwser to, "How do I get $ to BTC?"


We're glad to be of service!


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: coqui33 on January 29, 2013, 09:17:22 PM
See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139737.msg1488751#msg1488751 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139737.msg1488751#msg1488751)


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: EPiSKiNG on January 29, 2013, 09:26:08 PM
See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139737.msg1488751#msg1488751 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139737.msg1488751#msg1488751)

Replied... here's what I wrote:

Unfortunately, Chase does not allow instant member to member transactions and they try to route everyone through the Chase QuickPay service (which isn't fast at all and is reversible).  I have done many transactions via Chase cash deposit by withdrawing the cash, then depositing to the other member's account.  Maybe the teller looks at you funny, but tell them it's the only way to instantly and securely make the funds available to the other customer.

Hope that helps.
-EP


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: coqui33 on January 29, 2013, 10:09:34 PM
Replied.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139737.msg1488931#msg1488931 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139737.msg1488931#msg1488931)

It helps. Thank you.

But my basic problem, as I mentioned, is that I want to do it all from my desk, rather than dragging my ancient bones to a bank that is a half-hour away. The problem is not my being looked at funny. The problem is that the bank cannot do what you describe unless I am physically present at the bank in the flesh. If I tried it by fax, email, or snail-mail, they fear that I could deny that I ever sent the withdrawal authorization, thereby ripping Chase off.

As I implied above, the solution is not yet here, but I expect that the whole clumsy interface between slick 21st-C bitcoins, and sluggish 14th-C banking procedures will sort itself out in coming years.


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: justusranvier on January 29, 2013, 11:16:05 PM
Cash deposits are nice (until you get shut down like BitInstant did) but what's missing from this space is the ability to purchase bitcoins via ACH deposit i.e. I want to have an account and routing number that I could use for direct deposit. That would make it possible to convert a salary from a regular job directly into bitcoins without needing to have a bank account.


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: coqui33 on January 29, 2013, 11:50:52 PM
Cash deposits are nice (until you get shut down like BitInstant did) but what's missing from this space is the ability to purchase bitcoins via ACH deposit i.e. I want to have an account and routing number that I could use for direct deposit. That would make it possible to convert a salary from a regular job directly into bitcoins without needing to have a bank account.
Amen!


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: Anon136 on January 29, 2013, 11:55:37 PM
i sent cash in the mail to this guy once and he delivered the bitcoins as promised. +1 from me.


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: Stephen Gornick on January 30, 2013, 02:20:19 AM
ZIGGAP is currently accepting these payment methods:

Cash deposit at:

[...]
National Australia Bank (NAB - AUS)

Does the site render different based on where it is accessed from?  I don't see either the OKPay or the NAB cash deposit methods.


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: ZIGGAP on January 30, 2013, 02:24:16 AM
ZIGGAP is currently accepting these payment methods:

Cash deposit at:

[...]
National Australia Bank (NAB - AUS)

Does the site render different based on where it is accessed from?  I don't see either the OKPay or the NAB cash deposit methods.


Yes it does. We use the location of your IP address to show you the offerings that are available to your location. OKPay isn't one of our payment methods.


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: TangibleCryptography on January 30, 2013, 02:25:26 AM
The problem is that the bank cannot do what you describe unless I am physically present at the bank in the flesh. If I tried it by fax, email, or snail-mail, they fear that I could deny that I ever sent the withdrawal authorization, thereby ripping Chase off.

That is what makes it irreversible.  That is what makes it useful.  If you want to have an irreversible transaction from your desk you need to use a bank wire.

Quote
As I implied above, the solution is not yet here, but I expect that the whole clumsy interface between slick 21st-C bitcoins, and sluggish 14th-C banking procedures will sort itself out in coming years.

There will never be another solution.   Banks don't like irreversible.  When hackers mass hack tens of thousands of accounts and funnel hundreds of millions in "irreversible" transactions the bank will have to eat the cost.  Bank wires are the "solution".  Generally users have to specifically ask for bank wire access and many banks require 2FA for online bank wires. 



Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: coqui33 on January 30, 2013, 02:34:10 AM
...If you want to have an irreversible transaction from your desk you need to use a bank wire. ... There will never be another solution.
You may be right, but I don't think so. I predict that by January 29, 2014 I will be able to buy bitcoins from my desk by sending USD via ACH.


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: Stephen Gornick on January 30, 2013, 02:43:08 AM
We use the location of your IP address to show you the offerings that are available to your location.

That means that those attempting to access your site using Tor or VPN will oftentimes be unable to use your service.


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: ZIGGAP on January 30, 2013, 02:57:52 AM
We use the location of your IP address to show you the offerings that are available to your location.

That means that those attempting to access your site using Tor or VPN will oftentimes be unable to use your service.

We're aware of this and it's temporary. We don't condone people intentionally masking their true location, as it's a form of fraud and can be used for illicit reasons. However we're know that there are instances which a person's true location is misrepresented to us for other reasons such as being on a work VPN, on vacation, on satellite connections, and so forth. We're working on an alternate method of selecting payment options.


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: kayrice on January 30, 2013, 03:50:46 AM
Two quick questions I cannot find answers to on your website:

  • What is the fee? It appears you adjust the BTC price up, which I like the presentation of and is easy for me to decide how much to buy, but I don't know your fees without doing some algebra and comparing the price to other exchanges
  • What is the process after deposit? Yesterday I used BitMe for the first time and discovered late in the process that I would have to scan a picture of the receipt in. This was not possible to know until late in the process and is the main reason I won't be using BitMe again if I can avoid it.


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: ZIGGAP on January 30, 2013, 05:00:19 AM
Two quick questions I cannot find answers to on your website:

  • What is the fee? It appears you adjust the BTC price up, which I like the presentation of and is easy for me to decide how much to buy, but I don't know your fees without doing some algebra and comparing the price to other exchanges
  • What is the process after deposit? Yesterday I used BitMe for the first time and discovered late in the process that I would have to scan a picture of the receipt in. This was not possible to know until late in the process and is the main reason I won't be using BitMe again if I can avoid it.


The fee depends upon which payment method you use. Cash transactions in the USA are charged at 3.2% while cash transactions in Australia are at 7.5%. Our credit card offering will most likely be in the 6-8% range depending upon a number of factors.

Right now we don't require a receipt.


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: ZIGGAP on January 30, 2013, 09:19:35 PM
ZIGGAP.com (https://www.ziggap.com) is now offering PoliPay!

What is PoliPay?

PoliPay is a way for residents of Australia to pay merchants and bills via irreversible bank transfers.

How do I use PoliPay?

First, go to ZIGGAP.com. If you're logging in from an Australian location you will be presented with 4 payment options - Click the one that says PoliPay. Click next and follow the step-by-step on screen instructions.

If you have any problems do not hesitate to click the support button on the left side and ask for help. We're here for you 7 days a week.

How fast do I get my coins?

PoliPay transactions are nearly instant. On average you can expect your Bitcoin in about 3 hours.




You're still reading? What are you waiting for? Go to ZIGGAP.com (https://www.ziggap.com) place your order today!


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: Stephen Gornick on January 31, 2013, 12:02:50 AM
We don't condone people intentionally masking their true location, as it's a form of fraud and can be used for illicit reasons.

The term fraud has very specific meaning and I'm going to assume you are misunderstanding that meaning.  Transacting using Tor or a VPN to protect my privacy is not something that violates your terms of service (at least not my preliminary reading of it).    Even if it did though, that is not the definitioin of fraud.


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - Cheapest cash deposit in the USA and Australia
Post by: danieldaniel on January 31, 2013, 12:21:16 AM
We don't condone people intentionally masking their true location, as it's a form of fraud and can be used for illicit reasons.

The term fraud has very specific meaning and I'm going to assume you are misunderstanding that meaning.  By transacting using Tor or a VPN to protect my privacy is not something that violates your terms of service (at least not my preliminary reading of it).    Even if it did though, that is not the definitioin of fraud.
I think he meant that they might be able to use Tor to pretend that they're in another location. 


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - CHEAPEST cash deposit in the USA .
Post by: EPiSKiNG on February 07, 2013, 04:36:47 AM
These guys do Australia too eh?  I wonder how their rates compare...

-EP


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - CHEAPEST cash deposit in the USA .
Post by: kayrice on March 02, 2013, 09:44:55 PM
He is right it's not fraud for your situation. You are buying and selling goods to each other and each have a clear expectation. The buyer expects to receive a specific amount of BTC and you the seller expect to receive a specific amount of USD. That's the agreement and he's not defrauding you in any way by connecting from anywhere because you've not made any explicit requirement of the deal that you need to know his location.


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - CHEAPEST cash deposit in the USA .
Post by: m4ttanderson on April 24, 2013, 11:22:55 AM
And as per usual the site is gone and replaced by nothing - http://ziggap.com/


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - CHEAPEST cash deposit in the USA .
Post by: EPiSKiNG on April 24, 2013, 02:16:48 PM
And as per usual the site is gone and replaced by nothing - http://ziggap.com/

Yeah... It's unfortunate... It was a great service.... If you're in the USA:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172982.0

-EP


Title: Re: ZIGGAP.com - CHEAPEST cash deposit in the USA .
Post by: m4ttanderson on April 26, 2013, 01:27:03 AM
And as per usual the site is gone and replaced by nothing - http://ziggap.com/

Yeah... It's unfortunate... It was a great service.... If you're in the USA:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172982.0

-EP
LOL Most services are tailored for Europeans or the North American region.

Imagine opening it up to the Asian / Oceanic region. The Asian region alone would potentially dwarf customers from Europe / Americas (There's 1Billion Chinese for starters).

None of this high fee b/s for transferring money, we all know it costs next to nothing to do this. It's 1s and 0s!