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Title: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: themasknetwork on March 15, 2016, 11:02:29 AM On ethereum.org website the team states "build unstoppable applications". But right now :
1. Any ethereum contract can be shut down by owner by sending a kill signal. 2. Any ethereum contract can be updated by owner that can change rules over night. Simple unanswered question : How can an ethereum application be called decentralized and unstoppable if the owner has full control over it ? It's not a technical difficult question but nobody can answer me. For DAPPs holding customer funds points 1 and 2 spells disaster. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Marc De Mesel on March 15, 2016, 02:57:08 PM Is that so?
Oh my ::) Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: vlom on March 15, 2016, 03:23:38 PM On ethereum.org website the team states "build unstoppable applications". But right now : 1. Any ethereum contract can be shut down by owner by sending a kill signal. 2. Any ethereum contract can be updated by owner that can change rules over night. Simple unanswered question : How can an ethereum application be called decentralized and unstoppable if the owner has full control over it ? It's not a technical difficult question but nobody can answer me. For DAPPs holding customer funds points 1 and 2 spells disaster. yes. it is possible that the owner can control everything. you have to read and understand the code. and you will know if it is possible or not. https://ethereum.org/token Quote CENTRALIZED ADMINISTRATOR All dapps are fully decentralized by default, but that doesn't mean they can't have some sort of central manager, if you want them to. Maybe you want the ability to mint more coins, maybe you want to ban some people from using your currency. You can add any of those features, but the catch is that you can only add them at the beginning, so all the token holders will always know exactly the rules of the game before they decide to own one. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: densuj on March 15, 2016, 03:34:40 PM I think those are big bug of ethereum. Let's wait clarification from the devs if they are still stay in here :D
Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Minecache on March 15, 2016, 04:50:25 PM On ethereum.org website the team states "build unstoppable applications". But right now : 1. Any ethereum contract can be shut down by owner by sending a kill signal. 2. Any ethereum contract can be updated by owner that can change rules over night. Simple unanswered question : How can an ethereum application be called decentralized and unstoppable if the owner has full control over it ? It's not a technical difficult question but nobody can answer me. For DAPPs holding customer funds points 1 and 2 spells disaster. yes. it is possible that the owner can control everything. you have to read and understand the code. and you will know if it is possible or not. https://ethereum.org/token Quote CENTRALIZED ADMINISTRATOR All dapps are fully decentralized by default, but that doesn't mean they can't have some sort of central manager, if you want them to. Maybe you want the ability to mint more coins, maybe you want to ban some people from using your currency. You can add any of those features, but the catch is that you can only add them at the beginning, so all the token holders will always know exactly the rules of the game before they decide to own one. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: vlom on March 15, 2016, 05:03:19 PM I think those are big bug of ethereum. Let's wait clarification from the devs if they are still stay in here :D here i can't see a bug. elsewhere there could be a lot of bugs. but this was not the questions. btw: where is TPTB_need_war? He/She always talks about ETH-tech. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: vlom on March 15, 2016, 05:09:25 PM @Minecache:
you advertise a contract in your sig. thats the code: https://etherchain.org/account/0x7fd6d3537b39842cfe16e813851296d4745b51a7#code is this a fully decentralized or not? i do not want to read the code. so please tell us? Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Apollo13 on March 15, 2016, 05:10:23 PM On ethereum.org website the team states "build unstoppable applications". But right now : 1. Any ethereum contract can be shut down by owner by sending a kill signal. 2. Any ethereum contract can be updated by owner that can change rules over night. Simple unanswered question : How can an ethereum application be called decentralized and unstoppable if the owner has full control over it ? It's not a technical difficult question but nobody can answer me. For DAPPs holding customer funds points 1 and 2 spells disaster. yes. it is possible that the owner can control everything. you have to read and understand the code. and you will know if it is possible or not. https://ethereum.org/token Quote CENTRALIZED ADMINISTRATOR All dapps are fully decentralized by default, but that doesn't mean they can't have some sort of central manager, if you want them to. Maybe you want the ability to mint more coins, maybe you want to ban some people from using your currency. You can add any of those features, but the catch is that you can only add them at the beginning, so all the token holders will always know exactly the rules of the game before they decide to own one. I see that as a potential problem. How are those of us that cant read code supposed to find out? Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: vlom on March 15, 2016, 05:14:27 PM I see that as a potential problem. How are those of us that cant read code supposed to find out? you are using a computer. and you are using an OS and a browser. did you read the code of the SW you are using? nevertheless you use it. why? Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Apollo13 on March 15, 2016, 05:23:53 PM I see that as a potential problem. How are those of us that cant read code supposed to find out? you are using a computer. and you are using an OS and a browser. did you read the code of the SW you are using? nevertheless you use it. why? I am also not using win10 or facebook because of privacy issues. Both of those are so big that it makes headlines. Apps on the other hand can probably fly under the radar for a long time. This is after all a niche (for now anyway) Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: rimbit on March 15, 2016, 05:27:08 PM I see that as a potential problem. How are those of us that cant read code supposed to find out? you are using a computer. and you are using an OS and a browser. did you read the code of the SW you are using? nevertheless you use it. why? That would have to be one of the best analogies I have heard in a long time.. Kudos! Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 15, 2016, 05:27:47 PM Just to point out that AT was launched over a year ago (it does smart contracts but it does them smarter and simpler - http://ciyam.org/at).
The AT model doesn't allow changes to be made "to the contract" but there are functions that differentiate between the "contract creator" and others (as that is sometimes desirable). There are reasons why you would want a smart contract to differentiate between its "creator" and another user. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: shyliar on March 15, 2016, 09:28:57 PM I see that as a potential problem. How are those of us that cant read code supposed to find out? you are using a computer. and you are using an OS and a browser. did you read the code of the SW you are using? nevertheless you use it. why? Huge difference between entering into a contract (for an example if it involved 100k US) where the code (and therefore contract) can be changed and using a browser. Frankly they are not even remotely comparable. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: vlom on March 15, 2016, 09:31:52 PM I see that as a potential problem. How are those of us that cant read code supposed to find out? you are using a computer. and you are using an OS and a browser. did you read the code of the SW you are using? nevertheless you use it. why? Huge difference between entering into a contract (for an example if it involved 100k US) where the code (and therefore contract) can be changed and using a browser. Frankly they are not even remotely comparable. 100k $ in btc? in your wallet? if you can't understand code then you have to trust somebody. code of OS. code of the btc wallet. code of contract. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: shyliar on March 15, 2016, 09:47:44 PM I see that as a potential problem. How are those of us that cant read code supposed to find out? you are using a computer. and you are using an OS and a browser. did you read the code of the SW you are using? nevertheless you use it. why? Huge difference between entering into a contract (for an example if it involved 100k US) where the code (and therefore contract) can be changed and using a browser. Frankly they are not even remotely comparable. 100k $ in btc? in your wallet? if you can't understand code then you have to trust somebody. code of OS. code of the btc wallet. code of contract. To change bitcoin code requires consensus. According to the OP: 1. Any ethereum contract can be shut down by owner by sending a kill signal. 2. Any ethereum contract can be updated by owner that can change rules over night. If true comparing bitcoin code is not relevant. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 15, 2016, 10:47:43 PM btw: where is TPTB_need_war? He/She always talks about ETH-tech. He was begging for ban few days ago, maybe the heaven has heard his words. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Gyrsur on March 15, 2016, 11:02:54 PM my impression: it is partly designed with no use case in mind or too many devs added fancy "features". ("it's a feature not a bug!" --> M$)
Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: nickenburg on March 16, 2016, 12:16:01 AM How can an ethereum application be called decentralized and unstoppable if the owner has full control over it ? Well because normally, a Website or app, would be on a server somewhere on the planet, but because it is just on centralized server, it is really easy to attack. And with Ethereum there is no centralized attack point so it is always decentralized. And the owner only Writes the code and then uploads it to the Ethereum network, he can't change anything after, when he supplies the code it is final. The owner would need to write the self destruction in the code already, when he does that people will find out and warn others. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: densuj on March 16, 2016, 03:12:06 AM I think those are big bug of ethereum. Let's wait clarification from the devs if they are still stay in here :D here i can't see a bug. elsewhere there could be a lot of bugs. but this was not the questions. btw: where is TPTB_need_war? He/She always talks about ETH-tech. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Spoetnik on March 16, 2016, 03:49:13 AM Is that so? Oh my ::) Oh dear :( This really is bad news indeed ! Good point OP. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Minecache on March 16, 2016, 06:37:31 AM How can an ethereum application be called decentralized and unstoppable if the owner has full control over it ? Well because normally, a Website or app, would be on a server somewhere on the planet, but because it is just on centralized server, it is really easy to attack. And with Ethereum there is no centralized attack point so it is always decentralized. And the owner only Writes the code and then uploads it to the Ethereum network, he can't change anything after, when he supplies the code it is final. The owner would need to write the self destruction in the code already, when he does that people will find out and warn others. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 07:20:21 AM when he does that people will find out and warn others. How efficient obfuscation of the code could be in our case? Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: themasknetwork on March 16, 2016, 10:47:05 AM How can an ethereum application be called decentralized and unstoppable if the owner has full control over it ? Well because normally, a Website or app, would be on a server somewhere on the planet, but because it is just on centralized server, it is really easy to attack. And with Ethereum there is no centralized attack point so it is always decentralized. And the owner only Writes the code and then uploads it to the Ethereum network, he can't change anything after, when he supplies the code it is final. The owner would need to write the self destruction in the code already, when he does that people will find out and warn others. If the owner of the contract can't change anything after it's launch then what happens if a bug / exploit has to be solved ? What if i the developer wants add new features ? Imagine a complex application that gets stuck after a while and nobody can do anything. There are 2 scenarios : - If the owner of the contract can't change the code after upload, the whole network will be bloated with contracts full of bugs that can not be changed or maintained. - If the contract owner can change the code then we are NOT talking about decentralized contracts. Regarding the website analogy : - A website is a piece of code controlled by the owner, running over a decentralized network (Internet). If the website is attacked you can't use its' services for a while. - An ethereum contract is a decentralized piece of code running over a decentralized network (ethereum net). If the website holding the interface code (ex. augur.net) is attacked, users will not be able to use the contract for a while.. Ethereum contracts need an interface to interact with users. Right now, almost all contracts interfaces are hosted on regular websites and some of them even asks for username / password (augur.net). Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: hv_ on March 16, 2016, 11:41:53 AM Just to point out that AT was launched over a year ago (it does smart contracts but it does them smarter and simpler - http://ciyam.org/at). The AT model doesn't allow changes to be made "to the contract" but there are functions that differentiate between the "contract creator" and others (as that is sometimes desirable). There are reasons why you would want a smart contract to differentiate between its "creator" and another user. ... you should ICO a CIYAM coin make a big fuss and get rich ... ;D Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 01:42:52 PM ... you should ICO a CIYAM coin make a big fuss and get rich ... ;D That is something I'll never do - but I will be releasing a non-coin "blockchain" later this year (with decentralised BTC and LTC trading being the most likely first application for it). (not everyone here is just trying to "get rich quick") Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: themasknetwork on March 16, 2016, 02:09:47 PM ... you should ICO a CIYAM coin make a big fuss and get rich ... ;D That is something I'll never do - but I will be releasing a non-coin "blockchain" later this year (with decentralised BTC and LTC trading being the most likely first application for it). (not everyone here is just trying to "get rich quick") "with decentralised BTC and LTC trading being the most likely first application for it" Why would you do that ? :)) It's already here (over testnet). Decentralized BTC, LTC, XM.... trading - http://maskwallet.com/pages/assets/margin_mkts/index.php Official PR here : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/masknetwork-introduces-decentralized-margin-markets/ Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 02:27:54 PM Why would you do that ? :)) It's already here (over testnet). Well for a start that is an alt coin and CIYAM won't ever be that - for a second why aren't they already on mainnet (or have they not got their tech correct yet?). (are you a dev or just part of their marketing?) Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 04:22:26 PM (not everyone here is just trying to "get rich quick") Isn't it because they already got enough? Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: K210 on March 16, 2016, 04:27:47 PM nobody seems to be able to give any straight answers when it comes to ether. I ask about the total coins some say 90m others say unlimited. I ask blockchain size and some say 5 GB others say 10GB. I am staying far away from this coin because i get the feeling that after the hype has down a lot of people are going to get burned. This is going to be worse then paycoin and auruacoin combined.
Its true that bitcoin may not have cutting edge tech, but at least it has been around 7 years and can be trusted to still be there tomorrow. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 04:30:27 PM (not everyone here is just trying to "get rich quick") Isn't it because they already got enough? Well in my case that would be from actual "real software development" (something you seem to know very little about) and that occurred years before I had even heard of Bitcoin. In your case it would be about creating crap software and playing social games in order to raise funds (for stuff that never actually gets done). Not sure why you think trolling me in this topic is appropriate (but you are a "legendary troll" after all so keep at it). Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 04:32:02 PM I am staying far away from this coin because i get the feeling that after the hype has down a lot of people are going to get burned. It's not hype, it's marketing. Almost noone knows that a solution similar to Ethereum has been existing for a year (look upthread for AT). And everyone knows Ethereum which is still not in the RELEASED phase. It's all marketing, voodoo magic of modern markets. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 04:36:05 PM Well in my case that would be from actual "real software development" (something you seem to know very little about) and that occurred years before I had even heard of Bitcoin. In your case it would be about creating crap software and playing social games in order to raise funds (for stuff that never actually gets done). Not sure why you think trolling me in this topic is appropriate (but you are a "legendary troll" after all). You may look white and fluffy to those who don't know you, but we both know the truth. And your real motives. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 04:38:26 PM You may look white and fluffy to those who don't know you, but we both know the truth. And your real motives. Oh really - and what are those "real motives" (please feel free to share your *insight* with everyone else)? (and btw - "white and fluffy" would be considered to be insulting so if you are claiming to always be "polite" why are now you being insulting?) Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 04:39:59 PM Oh really - and what are those "real motives" (please feel free to share your *insight* with everyone else). What for? To make you type 2 pages of angry posts again? Noone will read them anyway. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 04:40:35 PM Oh really - and what are those "real motives" (please feel free to share your *insight* with everyone else). What for? To make you type 2 pages of angry posts again? Noone will read them anyway. So you posted the other post for exactly what purpose? How about you just delete your pointless posts rather than "pretend you have some secret insight about me" which you clearly don't? (hopefully your IOTA non-investors are following this topic as well) Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 04:48:00 PM So you posted the other post for exactly what purpose? How about you just delete your pointless posts rather than "pretend you have some secret insight about me" which you clearly don't? (hopefully your IOTA non-investors are following this topic as well) You won't involve me into you crap today. A little bit busy, sorry. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 04:51:01 PM You won't involve me into you crap today. A little bit busy, sorry. I see - but not too busy to post that you are too busy. :D (and yes maybe hard-coding a port number <= 1024 wasn't such a brilliant idea so perhaps you might spend your time more productively by fixing that rather glaring mistake rather than trying to troll me) Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: themasknetwork on March 16, 2016, 05:32:10 PM nobody seems to be able to give any straight answers when it comes to ether. I ask about the total coins some say 90m others say unlimited. I ask blockchain size and some say 5 GB others say 10GB. I am staying far away from this coin because i get the feeling that after the hype has down a lot of people are going to get burned. This is going to be worse then paycoin and auruacoin combined. Its true that bitcoin may not have cutting edge tech, but at least it has been around 7 years and can be trusted to still be there tomorrow. Everybody knows and everybody can tell you that Ethereum has no hard cap. There is no maximum number of ETH. Developers stated from the first day that ETH is NOT a coin, it's "fuel". It was designed to power smart contracts, not to be used as a currency. It was designed as "fuel" to exactly prevent what just happened. Huge price increase. If the price of ETH goes up very fast, smart contracts will become more and more expensive to run. A high ETH price could be a huge problem for the whole ecosystem because even simple contracts will use a lot of $$$. That's why the team decided to make ETH an inflationary currency. What you see on exchanges are people buying "fuel" hoping that will do exactly what's not supposed to do : GO UP FAST !!!. :) Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 06:10:21 PM I see - but not too busy to post that you are too busy. :D I take breaks time to time. (and yes maybe hard-coding a port number <= 1024 wasn't such a brilliant idea so perhaps you might spend your time more productively by fixing that rather glaring mistake rather than trying to troll me) Now I start suspecting that you've never been a professional software engineer... Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 06:14:41 PM Now I start suspecting that you've never been a professional software engineer... Really - so you think it is "professional" to use a "root" restricted port in your software do you? And btw - who exactly have you ever worked for? Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 06:17:31 PM Really - so you think it is "professional" to use a "root" restricted port in your software do you? Yes, when there is a reason to do so. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 06:18:52 PM Really - so you think it is "professional" to use a "root" restricted port in your software do you? Yes, when there is a reason to do so. And that is? (please enlighten us all) Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: hv_ on March 16, 2016, 06:20:03 PM Really - so you think it is "professional" to use a "root" restricted port in your software do you? Yes, when there is a reason to do so. And that is? (please enlighten us all) ..Popcorn... Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 06:20:56 PM ..Popcorn... He won't bother to answer the question as he actually can't (as there is no justifiable reason to do such a thing at all). He fucked up and is now unable to admit it. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 06:22:03 PM And that is? (please enlighten us all) Check in Iota thread, someone already asked that. Now regarding your professionalism - is there a proof that you are whom you pretend to be? Code or your name mentioned in credits? Maybe you always worked alone, in this case I can get why you don't know how a typical programming workflow looks. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: hv_ on March 16, 2016, 06:22:42 PM ..Popcorn... He won't bother to answer the question as he actually can't (as there is no justifiable reason to do such a thing at all). He fucked up and is now unable to admit it. Sorry, if I brocke that up. 😀 Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 06:23:01 PM And that is? (please enlighten us all) Check in Iota thread, someone already asked that. Just as I predicted - you cannot answer it (only a fucking coward would resort to telling others they should search your own topic for an answer to a simple question). Now go and check your scam coin topic and find your answer and post it please (we are all waiting now and would be rather disappointed if you didn't do that). (again - he won't - because he can't) I have proven that you are not even capable of doing basic software development you idiot. :D Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 06:26:13 PM Just as I predicted - you cannot answer it. Dare to put your money where your mouth is? 50 BTC bet that it has already been answered? No escrow to speed this up, you have not scammed me yet, so I can trust you. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 06:26:51 PM Just as I predicted - you cannot answer it. Dare to put your money where your mouth is? 50 BTC bet that it has already been answered? No escrow to speed this up, you have not scammed me yet, so I can trust you. Stop with the silliness already and "post your answer" (so I can show others why it is rubbish). (of course I have no doubt you'll try and come up with some bullshit answer as that is what you always do) Or are you so fucking gutless that you are going to hide behind "unless we have a 50 BTC bet I won't show my answer"? Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 06:28:39 PM Stop with the silliness already and "post your answer" (so I can show others why it is rubbish). (of course I have no doubt you'll try and come up with some bullshit answer as that is what you always do) Either accept the bet or I'll put you in the same category as altcoinUK and act accordingly. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 06:29:45 PM Or are you so fucking gutless that you are going to hide behind "unless we have a 50 BTC bet I won't show my answer"? Amazing - I predicted what you would type in advance. :D Fucking troll who can't code for shit - you just lost! (yes - if you were stupid enough to buy into his latest scam coin your "guru" is not even capable of writing half-decent software as I've just shown) Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 06:34:10 PM Amazing - I predicted what you would type in advance. :D Fucking troll who can't code for shit - you just lost! (yes - if you were stupid enough to buy into his latest scam coin your "guru" is not even capable of writing half-decent software) So, Ian Knowles, you have just shown what your words are worth. Fine, I'll add the recent posts into favorites in case if someone asks me why I treat you the same way as I do altcoinUK the Liar. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 06:35:32 PM Amazing - I predicted what you would type in advance. :D Fucking troll who can't code for shit - you just lost! (yes - if you were stupid enough to buy into his latest scam coin your "guru" is not even capable of writing half-decent software) So, Ian Knowles, you have just shown what your words are worth. Fine, I'll add the recent posts into favorites in case if someone asks me why I treat you the same way as I do altcoinUK the Liar. Again - if you had an explanation for hard-coding a port number less than 1025 in your "reference client" that wouldn't actually be very complicated to explain - would it? But not for you - instead you have to be vague and then demand a 50 BTC bet simply because you are a scammer and can't actually answer a simple question. Unfortunately your ego is now what is working against you and your scam coin (as it did with Nxt before). You have been "found out" for a very obvious and stupid mistake yet refuse to admit it was a mistake (that is your fragile little ego being dented by reality). Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 06:37:31 PM Again - if you had an explanation for hard-coding a port number less than 1025 in your "reference client" that wouldn't actually be very complicated to explain - would it? But not for you - instead you have to be vague and then demand a 50 BTC bet simply because you are a scammer and can't actually answer a simple question. Keep making excuses, it will change nothing. Now I'm leaving you alone without your bottle. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 06:38:12 PM Again - if you had an explanation for hard-coding a port number less than 1025 in your "reference client" that wouldn't actually be very complicated to explain - would it? But not for you - instead you have to be vague and then demand a 50 BTC bet simply because you are a scammer and can't actually answer a simple question. Keep making excuses, it will change nothing. Now I'm leaving you alone without your bottle. Again - no answer - and just insults (thought you were supposed to be the polite one weren't you?). Let's expand this into a new topic shall we? (I'll be happy to provide your non-investors with more information about your programming ability) Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: useless eater on March 16, 2016, 06:40:45 PM oh, to be young again...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veIs0TQyaaM#t=2m1s Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 16, 2016, 07:02:05 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1400837.0
Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Gyrsur on March 16, 2016, 09:16:00 PM which port?
https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.xml EDIT: 999 is already taken EDIT2: I don't understand why would you choose the default port to be value below 1024 which means you cannot run this on unix system without super user privileges. Even when I change the port in the config file, it still tries to bind to 999 so the server crashes. You probably changed the api port. API runs over 999 TCP per default, unless you change in your config file, nodes exchange data ( transactions, messages ) over 999 udp. Thats why it tries to bind to 999. Are you stupid or what? That's the issue ... the software should not run on a port which requires root privilege. http://img06.deviantart.net/867f/i/2010/299/d/2/i_are_retard__by_toften-d31k16p.jpg Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 16, 2016, 09:20:20 PM Stop derailing this thread.
The explanation was simple: I don't understand why would you choose the default port to be value below 1024 which means you cannot run this on unix system without super user privileges. Even when I change the port in the config file, it still tries to bind to 999 so the server crashes. Java Security Manager is PITA, if you run Java app with reduced privileges be ready to face a lot of unexpected problems caused by JSM. Being a reference implementation, IRI has as much error handling stripped out as possible. Together with JSM in paranoic mode this would make the testing a nightmare. Port in the config file is for API only. Now let's get back on topic. Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: CIYAM on March 17, 2016, 02:49:05 AM Java Security Manager is PITA, if you run Java app with reduced privileges be ready to face a lot of unexpected problems caused by JSM. So you have disabled the security *on purpose* because of your poor coding skills. :D Thanks for admitting to everyone that you are a "coding clown". (and it was you who derailed this topic in the first place - feel free to defend your poor coding skills in the new topic I created just for this purpose) Title: Re: Simple questions about Ethereum nobody can answer !!! Post by: K210 on March 17, 2016, 03:41:27 PM nobody seems to be able to give any straight answers when it comes to ether. I ask about the total coins some say 90m others say unlimited. I ask blockchain size and some say 5 GB others say 10GB. I am staying far away from this coin because i get the feeling that after the hype has down a lot of people are going to get burned. This is going to be worse then paycoin and auruacoin combined. Its true that bitcoin may not have cutting edge tech, but at least it has been around 7 years and can be trusted to still be there tomorrow. Everybody knows and everybody can tell you that Ethereum has no hard cap. There is no maximum number of ETH. Developers stated from the first day that ETH is NOT a coin, it's "fuel". It was designed to power smart contracts, not to be used as a currency. It was designed as "fuel" to exactly prevent what just happened. Huge price increase. If the price of ETH goes up very fast, smart contracts will become more and more expensive to run. A high ETH price could be a huge problem for the whole ecosystem because even simple contracts will use a lot of $$$. That's why the team decided to make ETH an inflationary currency. What you see on exchanges are people buying "fuel" hoping that will do exactly what's not supposed to do : GO UP FAST !!!. :) Really?? Because in my experience whenever a question about ether is asked a different answer is always given. How do they expect people to invest in this if they cannot provide simple hard facts such as block timing, block size, algo, blockchain size, coinbase reward etc.I mean this coin launched without a GUI, how is this acceptable is 2016?? Heck bitcoin launched with GUI and as far as we know nobody paid satoshi to create bitcoin. |
