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Title: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 18, 2016, 06:24:39 AM
Why NATO ally is bombing Kurdish Anti Terrorist Militaries in coordinated moment of ISIS attacks?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: trenchflaint on March 18, 2016, 07:13:24 AM
Why NATO ally is bombing Kurdish Anti Terrorist Militaries in coordinated noment of ISIS attacks?

I though ISIS was a terrorist group who killed and enslave people for their cause,why the hell would NATO be helping ISIS?.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Sharma on March 18, 2016, 07:15:03 AM
It's the first thing i heared from this, meaning it hasn't been in the EU newspapers (or i must have missed it).
Can you give us your source?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 18, 2016, 07:31:35 AM
It's the first thing i heared from this, meaning it hasn't been in the EU newspapers (or i must have missed it).
Can you give us your source?

The better view of things You will find in Kurdish News Agency.
The NATO liars rapresent this PRO ISIS fight in this way:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33690060


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Sharma on March 18, 2016, 07:33:37 AM
It's the first thing i heared from this, meaning it hasn't been in the EU newspapers (or i must have missed it).
Can you give us your source?

The better view of things You will find in Kurdish News Agency.
The NATO liars rapresent this PRO ISIS fight in this way:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33690060

It's an interesting point of view... To bad there is to much politics involved in any war (including this one).


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 18, 2016, 07:39:43 AM

It's an interesting point of view... To bad there is to much politics involved in any war (including this one).

This is a try story of NATO country direct military attacks, coordinated in time and place with ISIS on anti ISIS Kurdish Militaries.
What for shit type of NATO politic is this, not due the difference.
The Shit of be "ISIS military ally" is clear.

A NATO country is a ISIS military ally, and in this is a proof.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: vero on March 19, 2016, 07:16:51 AM
May be NATO should kick Turkey out of their membership. Apparently they are not listening. Are they going to sanction Turkey?! Of course not, they need the terrorists oil.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 08:29:56 AM
May be NATO should kick Turkey out of their membership.

Check this text in part about Turkey.
http://el-murid.livejournal.com/2587133.html (In Russian)


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Aggressor66 on March 19, 2016, 09:09:19 AM
May be NATO should kick Turkey out of their membership. Apparently they are not listening. Are they going to sanction Turkey?! Of course not, they need the terrorists oil.
NATO should talk about Suspending Turkey membership. But also gives Russia a option of military action on the table.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 09:25:04 AM
NATO should talk about Suspending Turkey membership.


Why?
Due to inefficent attacks on Kurdish Forces?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 09:45:50 AM
Tukey has problems with Kurds for decades. Much like Israel and Palestina. Both of the countries (Turkey & Israel) stole lands from their rightful owners. I don't think that NATO has something to do with it...


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: andy75 on March 19, 2016, 12:30:34 PM
It's the first thing i heared from this, meaning it hasn't been in the EU newspapers (or i must have missed it).
Can you give us your source?

The better view of things You will find in Kurdish News Agency.
The NATO liars rapresent this PRO ISIS fight in this way:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33690060

ooops i tried to search the word NATO on this article...shame on me i could not find it  ::)


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 19, 2016, 12:51:19 PM
Tukey has problems with Kurds for decades. Much like Israel and Palestina. Both of the countries (Turkey & Israel) stole lands from their rightful owners. I don't think that NATO has something to do with it...

Kurds are not the only group of people whose land was seized by the Turks. They have done the same with Greeks, Syrians, Assyrians, and Armenians. And the biggest irony is that ethnic Turkish minorities in various European countries (Bulgaria, Macedonia, Germany.etc) enjoy all the benefits and rights which are legally granted to them.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 19, 2016, 12:53:40 PM
Why NATO ally is bombing Kurdish Anti Terrorist Militaries in coordinated moment of ISIS attacks?
Who is kurdish anti terrorist military? Tell us please


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 12:55:36 PM

ooops i tried to search the word NATO on this article...shame on me i could not find it  ::)


http://nato.int/cps/en/natohq/nato_countries.htm


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 12:58:07 PM
Tukey has problems with Kurds for decades. Much like Israel and Palestina. Both of the countries (Turkey & Israel) stole lands from their rightful owners. I don't think that NATO has something to do with it...

Kurds are not the only group of people whose land was seized by the Turks. They have done the same with Greeks, Syrians, Assyrians, and Armenians. And the biggest irony is that ethnic Turkish minorities in various European countries (Bulgaria, Macedonia, Germany.etc) enjoy all the benefits and rights which are legally granted to them.

Believe me, I know. I am bulgarian...


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: andy75 on March 19, 2016, 01:07:42 PM

ooops i tried to search the word NATO on this article...shame on me i could not find it  ::)


http://nato.int/cps/en/natohq/nato_countries.htm


so turkey is a NATO member ? so does it mean it decided by NATO ? (cause i have heard those Norway airplanes don't stop the bombings  :P)
proof ? "he said" "she said" is no evidence , also the BBC not spreading it's owners agenda at all...

btw : what is "cheap jew trick" ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1251919.100 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1251919.100)
i wanna learn use it  ;)


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 19, 2016, 01:08:20 PM
Tukey has problems with Kurds for decades. Much like Israel and Palestina. Both of the countries (Turkey & Israel) stole lands from their rightful owners. I don't think that NATO has something to do with it...
Where did you get that sick thought?
Turks and Kurds have living together more than 1000 years. And Israel? Israel is exist in that land since 1948. How you can hold them similar?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 19, 2016, 01:12:25 PM
Believe me, I know. I am bulgarian...

I don't know why you are tolerating these Turks in your country. They have to pay compensation for the 500 years of ethnic cleansing and barbarity committed in the Balkans under the Ottoman rule. On the other hand, despite their small population (<10%), they are virtually controlling the Bulgarian government, through the political party Movement for Rights and Freedoms (DPS). The last time I checked, 4 out of the 17 MEPs (23.5%) were from this party.

http://cache1.trud.bg/Images/Cache/107/Image_4351107_407.jpg


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 19, 2016, 01:14:01 PM
Tukey has problems with Kurds for decades. Much like Israel and Palestina. Both of the countries (Turkey & Israel) stole lands from their rightful owners. I don't think that NATO has something to do with it...

Kurds are not the only group of people whose land was seized by the Turks. They have done the same with Greeks, Syrians, Assyrians, and Armenians. And the biggest irony is that ethnic Turkish minorities in various European countries (Bulgaria, Macedonia, Germany.etc) enjoy all the benefits and rights which are legally granted to them.

Believe me, I know. I am bulgarian...
Yes bulgarian!
Many of turkish minority in Bulgaria were forced to change their religion. Forbid their language and eventually have to leave their land and migrate to Turkey.
Maybe you're young yet and you don't remember Todor Jivkov


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 19, 2016, 01:16:57 PM
Believe me, I know. I am bulgarian...

I don't know why you are tolerating these Turks in your country. They have to pay compensation for the 500 years of ethnic cleansing and barbarity committed in the Balkans under the Ottoman rule. On the other hand, despite their small population (<10%), they are virtually controlling the Bulgarian government, through the political party Movement for Rights and Freedoms (DPS). The last time I checked, 4 out of the 17 MEPs (23.5%) were from this party.
If Ottoman Empire would done ethnic cleansing, you wouldn't find a bulgarian interlocutor.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: andy75 on March 19, 2016, 01:18:13 PM
Tukey has problems with Kurds for decades. Much like Israel and Palestina. Both of the countries (Turkey & Israel) stole lands from their rightful owners. I don't think that NATO has something to do with it...
Where did you get that sick thought?
Turks and Kurds have living together more than 1000 years. And Israel? Israel is exist in that land since 1948. How you can hold them similar?

you said you read the quran dont you ?
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/israel_land_egypt.html (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/israel_land_egypt.html)
i don't think so  , i think someone read it for you and preached you his beliefs.
read it again
 


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 01:25:43 PM
Tukey has problems with Kurds for decades. Much like Israel and Palestina. Both of the countries (Turkey & Israel) stole lands from their rightful owners. I don't think that NATO has something to do with it...
Where did you get that sick thought?
Turks and Kurds have living together more than 1000 years. And Israel? Israel is exist in that land since 1948. How you can hold them similar?

There are probably over 30 million kurds in the world and they don't have country of their own. Why are they at war for years now? Because kurds have some demands, which are legit imho.

1948? Israeli lands were inhabited by palestinians THOUSANDS of years before that. 

Yes bulgarian!
Many of turkish minority in Bulgaria were forced to change their religion. Forbid their language and eventually have to leave their land and migrate to Turkey.
Maybe you're young yet and you don't remember Todor Jivkov

What do you think turks did in here for 500 years? They also forced bulgarian population to change their religion, while demolishing churches and raped our women. I agree that there was tension in the past century, but it can be somehow justified with that 500 years of slavery. Those things are now behind us and I have nothing against turks (I even have some turkish friends). I am only defending the truth here!

P.S. I'm 35-years old.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 19, 2016, 01:30:13 PM
Tukey has problems with Kurds for decades. Much like Israel and Palestina. Both of the countries (Turkey & Israel) stole lands from their rightful owners. I don't think that NATO has something to do with it...
Where did you get that sick thought?
Turks and Kurds have living together more than 1000 years. And Israel? Israel is exist in that land since 1948. How you can hold them similar?

you said you read the quran dont you ?
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/israel_land_egypt.html (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/israel_land_egypt.html)
i don't think so  , i think someone read it for you and preached you his beliefs.
read it again
 
Yes. They lived in Egypt under Pharoh's violence. Then Prophet Moses helped them to migrate to Jerusalem. It was more that 3000 years ago. And after that they were droven out from Jerusalem because of their sedition. Don't give half information from Quran


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 01:31:10 PM
Believe me, I know. I am bulgarian...

I don't know why you are tolerating these Turks in your country. They have to pay compensation for the 500 years of ethnic cleansing and barbarity committed in the Balkans under the Ottoman rule. On the other hand, despite their small population (<10%), they are virtually controlling the Bulgarian government, through the political party Movement for Rights and Freedoms (DPS). The last time I checked, 4 out of the 17 MEPs (23.5%) were from this party.

http://cache1.trud.bg/Images/Cache/107/Image_4351107_407.jpg

We are not the only ones who tolerate turks. Germany has a bigger problem than us. Currently we have no issues with the turkish population. The main problem are the bulgarian gypsies, which are stealing from people around the world, giving bad name of the Bulgarian nation.

No, DPS is not controlling the country. Our country is controlled by outside people (pretty much like every country in the world (USA included imho)). DPS and such parties are leaded by pawns and it's hard for me to admit it, but we are too little and insignificant to have the word here...


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 01:31:24 PM
so does it mean it decided by NATO ?

In that area anyone have the right even to make a fart without a permission of ZOG.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 19, 2016, 01:35:30 PM
Tukey has problems with Kurds for decades. Much like Israel and Palestina. Both of the countries (Turkey & Israel) stole lands from their rightful owners. I don't think that NATO has something to do with it...
Where did you get that sick thought?
Turks and Kurds have living together more than 1000 years. And Israel? Israel is exist in that land since 1948. How you can hold them similar?

There are probably over 30 million kurds in the world and they don't have country of their own. Why are they at war for years now? Because kurds have some demands, which are legit imho.

1948? Israeli lands were inhabited by palestinians THOUSANDS of years before that. 

Yes bulgarian!
Many of turkish minority in Bulgaria were forced to change their religion. Forbid their language and eventually have to leave their land and migrate to Turkey.
Maybe you're young yet and you don't remember Todor Jivkov

What do you think turks did in here for 500 years? They also forced bulgarian population to change their religion, while demolishing churches and raped our women. I agree that there was tension in the past century, but it can be somehow justified with that 500 years of slavery. Those things are now behind us and I have nothing against turks (I even have some turkish friends). I am only defending the truth here!

P.S. I'm 35-years old.
God damn slanderer!
If they would raped your women, you should been one of turk's grandson. You are still christian and you use bulgarian language.
I think you confuse turks with russians. Because Bulgaria lived long time under soviet russian government. Therefore you use kiril alphabet and bulgarian language is almost russian.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 01:39:50 PM
Tukey has problems with Kurds for decades. Much like Israel and Palestina. Both of the countries (Turkey & Israel) stole lands from their rightful owners. I don't think that NATO has something to do with it...
Where did you get that sick thought?
Turks and Kurds have living together more than 1000 years. And Israel? Israel is exist in that land since 1948. How you can hold them similar?

There are probably over 30 million kurds in the world and they don't have country of their own. Why are they at war for years now? Because kurds have some demands, which are legit imho.

1948? Israeli lands were inhabited by palestinians THOUSANDS of years before that. 

Yes bulgarian!
Many of turkish minority in Bulgaria were forced to change their religion. Forbid their language and eventually have to leave their land and migrate to Turkey.
Maybe you're young yet and you don't remember Todor Jivkov

What do you think turks did in here for 500 years? They also forced bulgarian population to change their religion, while demolishing churches and raped our women. I agree that there was tension in the past century, but it can be somehow justified with that 500 years of slavery. Those things are now behind us and I have nothing against turks (I even have some turkish friends). I am only defending the truth here!

P.S. I'm 35-years old.
God damn slanderer!
If they would raped your women, you should been one of turk's grandson. You are still christian and you use bulgarian language.
I think you confuse turks with russians. Because Bulgaria lived long time under soviet russian government. Therefore you use kiril alphabet and bulgarian language is almost russian.

You are joking, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_alphabets


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 01:42:47 PM

I think you confuse turks with russians.
 Because Bulgaria lived long time under soviet russian government.
Therefore you use kiril alphabet and bulgarian language is almost russian.

What a deep knowledge of Slavic Ethnogenesis.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 01:44:05 PM
You are joking, right?


He is a cheap payd jew clown.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 01:44:40 PM
God damn slanderer!
If they would raped your women, you should been one of turk's grandson. You are still christian and you use bulgarian language.

I am not their grandson, but how would you explain the fact that in Bulgaria lives more than 130,000 пoмaци (Πoμάκoι, Пoмaки, Pomaklar, Пoмaклap)? That's more than 2% of Bulgaria's population.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 01:58:06 PM

I am not their grandson

Explore it, before telling, it might change Your view on this World.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_analysis


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: andy75 on March 19, 2016, 01:59:57 PM
Tukey has problems with Kurds for decades. Much like Israel and Palestina. Both of the countries (Turkey & Israel) stole lands from their rightful owners. I don't think that NATO has something to do with it...
Where did you get that sick thought?
Turks and Kurds have living together more than 1000 years. And Israel? Israel is exist in that land since 1948. How you can hold them similar?

you said you read the quran dont you ?
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/israel_land_egypt.html (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/israel_land_egypt.html)
i don't think so  , i think someone read it for you and preached you his beliefs.
read it again
 
Yes. They lived in Egypt under Pharoh's violence. Then Prophet Moses helped them to migrate to Jerusalem. It was more that 3000 years ago. And after that they were droven out from Jerusalem because of their sedition. Don't give half information from Quran

they were driven out by the Assyrian , Greeks , Romans , Turks , British (probably forgot a few) so keep on reading...
and you admit that Jew's owned the land 3000 years ago , but you keep repeating the "the Palestinians were there first argument" , tell me what is the Palestinians history please ?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 02:00:57 PM

I am not their grandson

Explore it, before telling, it might change Your view on this World.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_analysis

My grandfather was russian. :)


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: andy75 on March 19, 2016, 02:01:02 PM
You are joking, right?


He is a cheap payd jew clown.
proof ? source ?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 02:05:00 PM

That doesn't matter. What matter is that the bulgarians are the ones who invented the cyrillic alphabet (though there was an old bulgarian language, which is much older than 12 centuries (when the alphabet was created)), not the russians.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: andy75 on March 19, 2016, 02:11:34 PM

That doesn't matter. What matter is that the bulgarians are the ones who invented the cyrillic alphabet (though there was an old bulgarian language, which is much older than 12 centuries (when the alphabet was created)), not the russians.

i just wanted to ask who is the Jew that pay you ? loooooool (really with those 2 i don't know if i should laugh or be horrified)
they twist the truth as suites them , my issue is not with them , is people might think they are right ! (if you say shit once and once again people might listen and that is what i am afraid of , but in general speaking they make me laugh)


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 02:13:37 PM

My grandfather was russian. :)

The Russian Empire was a multi ethnic state.
Documents not reporting the ethnic appartenence, only "Religion".


http://s59.radikal.ru/i163/1106/7d/e38d25af559c.jpg

http://s57.radikal.ru/i158/1106/e8/2ffacd21f792.jpg

http://s46.radikal.ru/i111/1106/e5/427afe066479.jpg

http://i050.radikal.ru/1106/90/213fbc1b685d.jpg


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Racey on March 19, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
It's the first thing i heared from this, meaning it hasn't been in the EU newspapers (or i must have missed it).
Can you give us your source?

You will not see this in the msm news as they lie about everything, try and wake up and get your news from a more reliable source.
America Created Al-Qaeda and ISIS terrorists just search for key words, I am sure you will learn some new things.
The US with support from Turkey even helped Isis to steal oil from Syria.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 02:18:17 PM

proof ? source ?

Make him playing the smartphone ringtone.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 02:19:27 PM

The Bulgarian empire (which was much older than Russian (like 10 centuries)) too.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 02:22:45 PM


The Bulgarian empire (which was much older than Russian (like 10 centuries)) too.

Just make a genetic analysis :) if You are curious.
 ;)


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 02:29:52 PM


The Bulgarian empire (which was much older than Russian (like 10 centuries)) too.

Just make a genetic analysis :) if You are curious.
 ;)

I know about it and I have planned it for years, but now when you mentioned it - I'll make some research again. :)

P.S. My realname is like my nickname - Spartak (Spartacus), so I am probably from thracian ancestry! :)


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: andy75 on March 19, 2016, 02:32:42 PM


The Bulgarian empire (which was much older than Russian (like 10 centuries)) too.

Just make a genetic analysis :) if You are curious.
 ;)

did you make one ?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 02:34:07 PM
I see in ZOG office the working time is over.
No more pro Al Qaedah messages here.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 19, 2016, 02:34:19 PM
Oh! What an impressive evidence! show it to Kazakhs, show it to Tatars, show it to Crimerians, actually show it to Bulgarians too which ethnic civilisation dominated Russia before you


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 02:36:32 PM

did you make one ?

The ultimate genetic Research, is showing clearly, that all Humans on Earth are from Africa.
Do i need to make my personal Research on the same question?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: andy75 on March 19, 2016, 02:39:10 PM

did you make one ?

The ultimate genetic Research, is showing clearly, that all Humans on Earth are from Africa.
Do i need to make my personal Research on the same question?

i am just amused with this idea : you will find Jew genes in you , that will be hilarious  ;D


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 02:39:35 PM

did you make one ?

The ultimate genetic Research, is showing clearly, that all Humans on Earth are from Africa.
Do i need to make my personal Research on the same question?

HAHA, that's obvious - australopithecus. :D

P.S. magnific61, where are you from?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 02:44:43 PM
Oh! What an impressive evidence! show it to Kazakhs, show it to Tatars, show it to Crimerians, actually show it to Bulgarians too which ethnic civilisation dominated Russia before you

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan_in_the_Russian_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatarstan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea


Russia was not dominated by anyone.
Russia was a part of Mongol Empire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire).


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 02:57:40 PM
Oh! What an impressive evidence! show it to Kazakhs, show it to Tatars, show it to Crimerians, actually show it to Bulgarians too which ethnic civilisation dominated Russia before you

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan_in_the_Russian_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatarstan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea


Russia was not dominated by anyone.
Russia was a part of Mongol Empire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire).


Don't want to argue about that, but you can read a bit more about Кaн (Khan) Moтyн. Looks like you are russian and you will understand most of the articles about him. You'll not see that in "History" channel...


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: CryptoBrother on March 19, 2016, 02:59:34 PM
NATO is the biggest scam on earth.
It's literally a group of people who decide who the world will run, they think they are god.
I hate NATO and all it stands for.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 19, 2016, 04:11:19 PM
NATO is the biggest scam on earth.
It's literally a group of people who decide who the world will run, they think they are god.
I hate NATO and all it stands for.

NATO was formed as a military alliance to counter the Warsaw Pact. The Warsaw pact was disbanded almost three decades ago, and many of its former members are now part of the NATO (DDR, Poland, Romania, Hungary.etc). It should have been disbanded after the disintegration of the Soviet Union. But the Americans thought that they could use NATO as a tool to dominate the Europeans.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 04:27:34 PM
NATO is the biggest scam on earth.
It's literally a group of people who decide who the world will run, they think they are god.
I hate NATO and all it stands for.

NATO was formed as a military alliance to counter the Warsaw Pact. The Warsaw pact was disbanded almost three decades ago, and many of its former members are now part of the NATO (DDR, Poland, Romania, Hungary.etc). It should have been disbanded after the disintegration of the Soviet Union. But the Americans thought that they could use NATO as a tool to dominate the Europeans.

^
This!


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: btcxyzzz on March 19, 2016, 04:27:45 PM
NATO = ISIS, it's so obvious it screams


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 04:33:49 PM
NATO = ISIS, it's so obvious it screams

That's not true. There are a lot of small countries (such as mine, Bulgaria) who are also part of NATO (whether I like it or not...). You have no clue on how we are looking at ISIS in general...


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Alanay on March 19, 2016, 05:59:06 PM
Why NATO ally is bombing Kurdish Anti Terrorist Militaries in coordinated moment of ISIS attacks?

Not sure if you're trolling and know why but I'll explain it for those who don't know.

Kurdish help with the ISIS situation, yes. But PKK are also terrorists themselves. Just because a terrorist kills a terrorist from a different group doesn't mean they're now a good person. There has been a lot of PKK suicide bombing in Turkey now. Kurds are basically in a war with Turkey to get their own land, it is really pathetic, they are nothing compared with the Turkish military. But they still keep trying. Now we have people who don't know anything trying to sympathize with the Kurds and yell at Turkish military for killing them. They ARE terrorists and they should be killed to prevent killing of innocents. I am Turkish and I know how most Kurds are. A lot of them if you meet them are really nice to your face and everything but when they're talking on there own they root for the PKK Kurds. Also a lot of Kurds are beggers on the streets, they have no dignity or ambition to go and find work. I saw a "homeless" old woman Kurd on the street and after coming back to go into the car she was still sitting there but with an Ice Slush. Shouldn't she be buying water or cheap food to survive?

Moral of the story is, Kurds want their own land but can't pay for it and so they kill innocent people. But they also kill ISIS and so UK and US people think they should be supported. To support them is 100% retarded.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 06:37:51 PM
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Alanay on March 19, 2016, 07:34:02 PM
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.

You are entitled to an opinion but this isn't about opinion. You can have an opinion if you think blue is a nice color or not but not whether someone is a terrorist or not. Kurds have no rightful owner to ANY of that land. They simply want it because there are a lot of Kurds and they think they know someone about politics and how to run a country but they don't know anything of the sort. They only know when to beg on the street when a tourist walks past. For them to kill innocent people just to get their own way is some really stupid shit, and you are basically supporting them. Not cool. PKK are terrorists, not peaceful people who simply want their own country. Drug dealers kill other drug dealers but we still have to arrest them. Do you understand?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 19, 2016, 09:07:46 PM
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.

You are entitled to an opinion but this isn't about opinion. You can have an opinion if you think blue is a nice color or not but not whether someone is a terrorist or not.

That's not entirely correct, though I see your point (again). Will not try to argue about that, because I must point some facts (according to me), which not everybody will like.

Kurds have no rightful owner to ANY of that land. They simply want it because there are a lot of Kurds and they think they know someone about politics and how to run a country but they don't know anything of the sort. They only know when to beg on the street when a tourist walks past.

Like I said - I'm not sure about the first part. Quick research (3 mins.. it's not serious, I know) resulted that there was a region called "Corduene" ("Kingdom of Corduene", 60 BC), which can be connected with the kurds. Basically (according to that "research"), the kurds lives in that region for at least 2000+ years. I will not say more, because you definitely know more on the subject, but you are also obviously part from one of the sides (Turkey), so please allow me not to accept your opinion as correct one.

About the second part, I couldn't agree more! Kurds are basically illiterate people, but so does the indigenous people of USA, Australia, New Zealand etc. (you get my point). It's not like we are living back in those days, but do you think you have the right to take the apartment of your neighbour just because he's illiterate or stupid? Otherwise, I understand you completely! I'm not racist of any kind, but kurds (mostly) are like the gypsies (at least the ones, which I am facing every single day here in Bulgaria) - they lie, beg, steal and will do everything they can to take what they want (even if it's $0.000001).

For them to kill innocent people just to get their own way is some really stupid shit, and you are basically supporting them. Not cool. PKK are terrorists, not peaceful people who simply want their own country.

I'm not supporting them in ANY WAY! Watch this and tell me if you think he's right! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yVIJJBwqUc) Some people may decide that he was defending his country. Others may think that among those 40+ peope he killed, there are probably innocent victims.

Drug dealers kill other drug dealers but we still have to arrest them. Do you understand?

Here we are talking about people who are killing other people. Drug dealers (with acquiescence from the governments) are making vast profits from vices and weaknesses of the people. They say: "It's not like I am forcing them to do drugs." and that's it. They don't care if someone dies in front of them, because "it's not their fault". Same "people" are the ones who are producing weapons, make wars, make forced labour, human trafficking, slavery etc... How about if you have a wife and 2 children, someone takes them (God forbid!!!) and tells you:
- Here, drive that car and crash it in that building!
How would you react? What if you do it? People will just call you terrorist. Are you terrorist in that case? Of course, it's not necessarily to be in that way. I agree that illiterate people would do it for $100 (or even less), but my point is that people are killing each other and dying from countless of deceases, while governments are f*cking us (dead or alive). There are illiterate and crazy human beings, which are capable of doing pretty much everything bad in this world, but in general... terrorists are created by the governments. Period. Do you understand?  


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 19, 2016, 09:51:59 PM
NATO was formed as a military alliance to counter the Warsaw Pact.

Wow. This is Hot.
Put please the data of NATO fundation and look about Warsaw Pact data fundation, and You will have a surprise.

http://cs630721.vk.me/v630721149/3ad9/M2yFjcbpJh0.jpg


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 20, 2016, 06:50:09 PM
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.

You are entitled to an opinion but this isn't about opinion. You can have an opinion if you think blue is a nice color or not but not whether someone is a terrorist or not. Kurds have no rightful owner to ANY of that land. They simply want it because there are a lot of Kurds and they think they know someone about politics and how to run a country but they don't know anything of the sort. They only know when to beg on the street when a tourist walks past. For them to kill innocent people just to get their own way is some really stupid shit, and you are basically supporting them. Not cool. PKK are terrorists, not peaceful people who simply want their own country. Drug dealers kill other drug dealers but we still have to arrest them. Do you understand?
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Omega.SportSciencie on March 20, 2016, 07:08:01 PM

It's an interesting point of view... To bad there is to much politics involved in any war (including this one).

This is a try story of NATO country direct military attacks, coordinated in time and place with ISIS on anti ISIS Kurdish Militaries.
What for shit type of NATO politic is this, not due the difference.
The Shit of be "ISIS military ally" is clear.

A NATO country is a ISIS military ally, and in this is a proof.

In other words, Nato commanders are giving orders to kill their own people, because by helping isis, they later will kill people in europe.

Maybe now is the turn they are triying to use this Steve Jackson illuminati game card
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR5_VmJBMDW_8gOL7obQLsY1Ex5msfYWAbvUjBzjt3T8opo1iIOG5_h2TYsqQ


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 20, 2016, 07:32:19 PM
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.

You are entitled to an opinion but this isn't about opinion. You can have an opinion if you think blue is a nice color or not but not whether someone is a terrorist or not. Kurds have no rightful owner to ANY of that land. They simply want it because there are a lot of Kurds and they think they know someone about politics and how to run a country but they don't know anything of the sort. They only know when to beg on the street when a tourist walks past. For them to kill innocent people just to get their own way is some really stupid shit, and you are basically supporting them. Not cool. PKK are terrorists, not peaceful people who simply want their own country. Drug dealers kill other drug dealers but we still have to arrest them. Do you understand?
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical

Of course not! Our lands were inhabited from our ancestors thousands of years before even turks were mentioned in the history.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 20, 2016, 07:59:44 PM
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.

You are entitled to an opinion but this isn't about opinion. You can have an opinion if you think blue is a nice color or not but not whether someone is a terrorist or not. Kurds have no rightful owner to ANY of that land. They simply want it because there are a lot of Kurds and they think they know someone about politics and how to run a country but they don't know anything of the sort. They only know when to beg on the street when a tourist walks past. For them to kill innocent people just to get their own way is some really stupid shit, and you are basically supporting them. Not cool. PKK are terrorists, not peaceful people who simply want their own country. Drug dealers kill other drug dealers but we still have to arrest them. Do you understand?
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical

Of course not! Our lands were inhabited from our ancestors thousands of years before even turks were mentioned in the history.
So, then why do you claim that they are rightful on that land? Turkey has no problem with kurds but PKK, terrorist group.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 20, 2016, 08:43:31 PM
Alanay,

I get your point, but I don't accept it. What is a terrorist to you? I won't say that I know more about them, but I am entitled of my own opinion, right? And my opinion is that terrorists are created by the governments of the powerful countries. Maybe sometimes there are suicide bombings in a desperate attempt to "change something" (whatever that they think is), or just because they feel powerless to do something else, but in general, most of the suicide bombings are organized by a 3rd party. During the years I have read some stuff about Turkish-Kurdish conflict, but I'm not that familiar with it. All I can say is that kurds are rightful owners of parts of these lands there. That again is just my opinion.

You are entitled to an opinion but this isn't about opinion. You can have an opinion if you think blue is a nice color or not but not whether someone is a terrorist or not. Kurds have no rightful owner to ANY of that land. They simply want it because there are a lot of Kurds and they think they know someone about politics and how to run a country but they don't know anything of the sort. They only know when to beg on the street when a tourist walks past. For them to kill innocent people just to get their own way is some really stupid shit, and you are basically supporting them. Not cool. PKK are terrorists, not peaceful people who simply want their own country. Drug dealers kill other drug dealers but we still have to arrest them. Do you understand?
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical

Of course not! Our lands were inhabited from our ancestors thousands of years before even turks were mentioned in the history.
So, then why do you claim that they are rightful on that land? Turkey has no problem with kurds but PKK, terrorist group.

Not the entire land, just a parts of it (not sure which). I have asked you once and will try again: Where are you from?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 21, 2016, 02:57:07 AM
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical

Turks in Bulgaria are recent immigrants from Turkey, who seized valuable farmland and real estate from the native inhabitants through ethnic cleansing and genocide (the same happened in Macedonia, Greece, Albania, Romania.etc). Rather than allowing them to have their own state in Bulgaria, I think that they should be deported to Turkey.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 21, 2016, 07:24:21 AM
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical

Turks in Bulgaria are recent immigrants from Turkey, who seized valuable farmland and real estate from the native inhabitants through ethnic cleansing and genocide (the same happened in Macedonia, Greece, Albania, Romania.etc). Rather than allowing them to have their own state in Bulgaria, I think that they should be deported to Turkey.
I think you have a very very big problem with turks, coleman! A personal problem


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 21, 2016, 08:17:53 AM
Who will discuss the Turkish - Bulgarian and Turkish-Greek issues, please open a new topic.
Is there a list of countries who recognise the turkish-armenian relations as Genocide?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 21, 2016, 08:52:04 AM
Who will discuss the Turkish - Bulgarian and Turkish-Greek issues, please open a new topic.
Is there a list of countries who recognise the turkish-armenian relations as Genocide?
Before we need to discuss Russian genocide on Kazakhs, Tatars, Crimerians. How many people died in Siberia? How many died by hunger? Do not open new discuss topic with your bloody hands


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 21, 2016, 09:04:59 AM

Before we need to discuss
1.Russian genocide on Kazakhs, Tatars,

 Crimerians.

1. How many people died in Siberia?

1. How many died by hunger?

4. Do not open new discuss topic with your bloody hands

Wow.
Give me
1. the numbers and
2. the cause of detentions, and
3. Who was in government in USSR, and what connection it have to Russians.


I'm Ready to hear Your version of Story щaCrimea settlement in last 2500 Years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Crimea

4. Who You f#cking Are to teach me what to do?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 21, 2016, 09:09:50 AM
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical

Turks in Bulgaria are recent immigrants from Turkey, who seized valuable farmland and real estate from the native inhabitants through ethnic cleansing and genocide (the same happened in Macedonia, Greece, Albania, Romania.etc). Rather than allowing them to have their own state in Bulgaria, I think that they should be deported to Turkey.

No. Turks in Bulgaria lives here for many many years. One part of them is mix between turks and gypsies, and the other is mix between turks and bulgarians (we call them pomaks). Both of the "races" are not accepted by native turks as a turks, and we are not (generally) accepting them as bulgarians. You can't hate the pomaks for example. They are extremely hardworking people. There are villages in Bulgaria were only pomaks lives (with no single bulgarian, turk or gypsy). They are growing their own food and for them there is no such thing as a "weekend". No matter if it's Monday or Sunday - they are on the field to work. Many of them are also working in the construction. They listen every word you say and they are sharing everything they got. Personally I have nothing against gypsies, turks or pomaks. All I want is for them to pay their bills, work and stop f*cking each other that much. Gypsies are making 10s of children, without thinking how they will feed them and where they will live. Bulgarians are scared to make children, because generally it is extremely difficult to raise them. That's why we are dying nation...


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 21, 2016, 09:25:00 AM
Imagine,
Bulgaria has minority like turks. They want to have their own state in Bulgaria. Can you say that they are rightful to do that? There are almost 70 minorities in Turkey and if each of them would want to found own state Turkey would have 70 states. Ofcourse if you imagine it for yourself, it doesn't come logical

Turks in Bulgaria are recent immigrants from Turkey, who seized valuable farmland and real estate from the native inhabitants through ethnic cleansing and genocide (the same happened in Macedonia, Greece, Albania, Romania.etc). Rather than allowing them to have their own state in Bulgaria, I think that they should be deported to Turkey.

No. Turks in Bulgaria lives here for many many years. One part of them is mix between turks and gypsies, and the other is mix between turks and bulgarians (we call them pomaks). Both of the "races" are not accepted by native turks as a turks, and we are not (generally) accepting them as bulgarians. You can't hate the pomaks for example. They are extremely hardworking people. There are villages in Bulgaria were only pomaks lives (with no single bulgarian, turk or gypsy). They are growing their own food and for them there is no such thing as a "weekend". No matter if it's Monday or Sunday - they are on the field to work. Many of them are also working in the construction. They listen every word you say and they are sharing everything they got. Personally I have nothing against gypsies, turks or pomaks. All I want is for them to pay their bills, work and stop f*cking each other that much. Gypsies are making 10s of children, without thinking how they will feed them and where they will live. Bulgarians are scared to make children, because generally it is extremely difficult to raise them. That's why we are dying nation...
How nice you told life situation in Bulgaria. I liked. But naturaly kurdish and gipsy people are living same. Gipsies are living like wandering. But they are funny, cheerful people. They live freedom in extreme. Kurds are different. Actually most of kurdish people aren't educated well. Educated population is public officers or businessmen, etc. polpulation untutored are working in constructions or fields... Unfortunately, some of them (that ignorant part) are joining terrorist group by willing and by force.
Kurdish people generally are glad and happy as much as turks, because we have no difference.
By the way kurds aren't our minority. They are more than 20 million of population that live all around Turkey. We have only linguistic difference. We have same religion, almost same culture. Shotly we are same.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 21, 2016, 09:34:36 AM
some of them (that ignorant part) are joining terrorist group by willing and by force

Wow. This is Great.
Do You consider Kurdish Military formations as terrorists and there is nothing wrong to bomb them from Turkey with help from ISIS and in full cooperation?

This is a Turkish ufficial position as NATO country?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: thinkinger on March 21, 2016, 05:22:49 PM
Why NATO ally is bombing Kurdish Anti Terrorist Militaries in coordinated moment of ISIS attacks?
because both sides are terrorists .And the u.s sometimes bomb daesh and sometimes Kurdish Terrorist militaires YPG in order to make the terrorism survive.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: xht on March 21, 2016, 05:36:13 PM
some of them (that ignorant part) are joining terrorist group by willing and by force

Wow. This is Great.
Do You consider Kurdish Military formations as terrorists and there is nothing wrong to bomb them from Turkey with help from ISIS and in full cooperation?

This is a Turkish ufficial position as NATO country?
Turkey as a NATO member, they are required to aid any other NATO member. Since they are aiding isis, Turkey has clearly violated their contract with NATO and the US. Kick Turkey out of NATO now!


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 21, 2016, 06:56:13 PM
And the u.s sometimes bomb ... Kurdish Terrorist militaires YPG in order to make the terrorism survive.

Show me a .mil report about this, please.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 21, 2016, 07:07:45 PM
some of them (that ignorant part) are joining terrorist group by willing and by force

Wow. This is Great.
Do You consider Kurdish Military formations as terrorists and there is nothing wrong to bomb them from Turkey with help from ISIS and in full cooperation?

This is a Turkish ufficial position as NATO country?
Turkey as a NATO member, they are required to aid any other NATO member. Since they are aiding isis, Turkey has clearly violated their contract with NATO and the US. Kick Turkey out of NATO now!
Do you know stupid how and when Turkey joined Nato?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: gamebak on March 21, 2016, 07:09:38 PM
I believe there is a certain amount of US involvement in the creation of ISIS.  The weapons, the troops, the slow evolution of the group - it all had a certain amount of US involvement. Sad, but true.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Racey on March 21, 2016, 07:39:56 PM
some of them (that ignorant part) are joining terrorist group by willing and by force

Wow. This is Great.
Do You consider Kurdish Military formations as terrorists and there is nothing wrong to bomb them from Turkey with help from ISIS and in full cooperation?

This is a Turkish ufficial position as NATO country?
Turkey as a NATO member, they are required to aid any other NATO member. Since they are aiding isis, Turkey has clearly violated their contract with NATO and the US. Kick Turkey out of NATO now!
Do you know stupid how and when Turkey joined Nato?

Turkey joined NATO in 1952***Here*** (http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm)   , are you getting mixed up with Europe?

               


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: thinkinger on March 21, 2016, 07:58:56 PM
And the u.s sometimes bomb ... Kurdish Terrorist militaires YPG in order to make the terrorism survive.

Show me a .mil report about this, please.
for the us hitting ypg terrorists or for ypg being a terrorist ?there are alot of reports for both. But i know them in turkish ,cause i dont have enough time ,icant show the reports in english - sorry for that- but here is an example in Turkish about us bombing ypg terroristsand killing 45 of the terrorists.http://www.dunyabulteni.net/haberler/345386/abd-muttefiki-pydyi-yanlislikla-vurdu-45-olu (http://www.dunyabulteni.net/haberler/345386/abd-muttefiki-pydyi-yanlislikla-vurdu-45-olu)


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 21, 2016, 09:21:14 PM
some of them (that ignorant part) are joining terrorist group by willing and by force

Wow. This is Great.
Do You consider Kurdish Military formations as terrorists and there is nothing wrong to bomb them from Turkey with help from ISIS and in full cooperation?

This is a Turkish ufficial position as NATO country?
Turkey as a NATO member, they are required to aid any other NATO member. Since they are aiding isis, Turkey has clearly violated their contract with NATO and the US. Kick Turkey out of NATO now!
Do you know stupid how and when Turkey joined Nato?

Turkey joined NATO in 1952***Here*** (http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm)   , are you getting mixed up with Europe?

               

Turkey joined Nato by joining Korea War beside of coalition forces. Turkey lost more than 2000 soldiers in that war


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 21, 2016, 09:25:39 PM
And the u.s sometimes bomb ... Kurdish Terrorist militaires YPG in order to make the terrorism survive.

Show me a .mil report about this, please.
for the us hitting ypg terrorists or for ypg being a terrorist ?there are alot of reports for both. But i know them in turkish ,cause i dont have enough time ,icant show the reports in english - sorry for that- but here is an example in Turkish about us bombing ypg terroristsand killing 45 of the terrorists.http://www.dunyabulteni.net/haberler/345386/abd-muttefiki-pydyi-yanlislikla-vurdu-45-olu (http://www.dunyabulteni.net/haberler/345386/abd-muttefiki-pydyi-yanlislikla-vurdu-45-olu)
Yes. US hit YPG by mistake it says... USA accepts PKK as terrorist organisation but YPG not.. Actually YPG is PKK's Syrian branch. Those organisations are similar. Just YPG fights an another terrorist organisation like ISIS


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 21, 2016, 10:10:52 PM
USA accepts PKK as terrorist organisation but YPG not.. Actually YPG is PKK's Syrian branch. Those organisations are similar. Just YPG fights an another terrorist organisation like ISIS

http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm

YPG is not listed as terrorist organisation.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 21, 2016, 10:38:17 PM
USA accepts PKK as terrorist organisation but YPG not.. Actually YPG is PKK's Syrian branch. Those organisations are similar. Just YPG fights an another terrorist organisation like ISIS

http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm

YPG is not listed as terrorist organisation.
Ohh! I said different. What i said? PKK-YPG-PYD similar. ISIS another trouble on the world. God damn all of them


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 22, 2016, 05:14:26 AM
Similar in what?
If tere is no terroristic activity and a clear partetipation in fight on ISIS, they are "similar" to healty military formation.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: designerusa on March 22, 2016, 06:10:04 AM
Why NATO ally is bombing Kurdish Anti Terrorist Militaries in coordinated moment of ISIS attacks?

i dont think nato is helping isis on the contrary , according to me, nato forces want to knock all the isis forces .. for that reaon, they are in the war agaisnt it for sure..


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 22, 2016, 07:16:36 AM

i dont think nato is helping isis on the contrary , according to me, nato forces want to knock all the isis forces .. for that reaon, they are in the war agaisnt it for sure..

Why do You need thinking?
Just read how a NATO country destroy anti ISIS Militaries in Syria.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1402579.msg14235245#msg14235245


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 22, 2016, 07:38:21 AM
Similar in what?
If tere is no terroristic activity and a clear partetipation in fight on ISIS, they are "similar" to healty military formation.
Isn't it enough if their militant makes bombing in Turkey?
If you have double standart, then i claim chechen militants who made Beslan attack weren't terrorists, they were freedom fighter. Do not make good terrorist bad terrorist issue


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 22, 2016, 10:01:56 AM
Isn't it enough if their militant makes bombing in Turkey?

Who makes bombing in Syria?
And who makes bombing in Turkey?

In Beslan was no chechen militants, tere was salafi international anti Quran sectants.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 22, 2016, 01:39:48 PM
If you have double standart, then i claim chechen militants who made Beslan attack weren't terrorists, they were freedom fighter. Do not make good terrorist bad terrorist issue


Who is responsable of Beslan hostage keeping?
What have Abu Faukh from Jeddah (Saudi Arabia) and Khodov Vladimir from Berdiansk (Ukraine) to do with "chechenian militants" of "Caucasus Emirate"?
This terroristic organisation is listed and recognised as branch of Al Qaeda, and this is a sectant stucture with international caracter and in direct contrast with Quran.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Flag_of_Caucasian_Emirate.svg/300px-Flag_of_Caucasian_Emirate.svg.png
The flag of salafi lunatics "Caucasian Emirate".

How are jews rappresent them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafist_Jihadism


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: thinkinger on March 22, 2016, 05:50:02 PM
Similar in what?
If tere is no terroristic activity and a clear partetipation in fight on ISIS, they are "similar" to healty military formation.
Ypg or PYD terrorists are making terrorism on the arabian and Turkmen people of Syria. They make t5hem migrate or kill them or make the u.s  bomb them by saying the non kurd people belonging to Daesh .


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 22, 2016, 05:58:56 PM
or make the u.s  bomb them by saying the non kurd people belonging to Daesh .

WOW. that is hot.
"Saying" to US about ISIS presence, but have as victims who?
Please, give more cases and with proofs, please.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: thinkinger on March 22, 2016, 06:21:48 PM
or make the u.s  bomb them by saying the non kurd people belonging to Daesh .

WOW. that is hot.
"Saying" to US about ISIS presence, but have as victims who?
Please, give more cases and with proofs, please.
i have no time so i can only give turkish newspaper sites. sorry for that.
http://www.pressreader.com/turkey/sabah/20150707/282763470302548/TextView (http://www.pressreader.com/turkey/sabah/20150707/282763470302548/TextView)
http://www.hedefhalk.com/pyd-turkmenleri-goce-zorlayip-iskence-yapiyor-696528h.htm (http://www.hedefhalk.com/pyd-turkmenleri-goce-zorlayip-iskence-yapiyor-696528h.htm) and the ones in english
http://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2016/01/14/russian-jets-hit-opposition-held-village-near-azaz-after-pyd-repulsed (http://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2016/01/14/russian-jets-hit-opposition-held-village-near-azaz-after-pyd-repulsed)
http://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2015/11/19/assad-forces-russian-air-strikes-target-turkmen-villages-in-syria (http://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2015/11/19/assad-forces-russian-air-strikes-target-turkmen-villages-in-syria)
http://aa.com.tr/en/world/turkmen-villages-in-syria-turned-into-wrecks/484619 (http://aa.com.tr/en/world/turkmen-villages-in-syria-turned-into-wrecks/484619)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e20_1435481418 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e20_1435481418)
http://www.syriadeeply.org/articles/2016/01/9345/displaced-turkmen-villagers-brace-cold-winter/ (http://www.syriadeeply.org/articles/2016/01/9345/displaced-turkmen-villagers-brace-cold-winter/)
http://www.worldbulletin.net/pyd/161310/syria-kurdish-pyd-trying-to-change-demography (http://www.worldbulletin.net/pyd/161310/syria-kurdish-pyd-trying-to-change-demography)


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: bonski on March 22, 2016, 08:55:57 PM
I think nato wont come to fight with ISIS' side, nato wants to wipe out this terrorist group not just them but all terrorist group. But if nato will be on ISIS' side they would be feared by people of the world. And UN still won't take action regarding this terrorism.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 22, 2016, 09:17:10 PM
I think nato wont come to fight with ISIS' side, nato wants to wipe out this terrorist group not just them but all terrorist group. But if nato will be on ISIS' side they would be feared by people of the world. And UN still won't take action regarding this terrorism.
ISIS is an American project friend. Therefore Nato never really hits ISIS. There is a fucking two sided game in there. USAF hits ISIS then support them from under hand. Because they need chaos there


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: bonski on March 22, 2016, 09:27:36 PM
I think nato wont come to fight with ISIS' side, nato wants to wipe out this terrorist group not just them but all terrorist group. But if nato will be on ISIS' side they would be feared by people of the world. And UN still won't take action regarding this terrorism.
ISIS is an American project friend. Therefore Nato never really hits ISIS. There is a fucking two sided game in there. USAF hits ISIS then support them from under hand. Because they need chaos there

What?? Really? I didn't know about this, thanks for that pal. I really don't understand why they need to create such thing like this big war ? just because of money? territory? power? Oh well, I need to research more about these rumors and wars which is happening right now.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 23, 2016, 04:56:21 AM

ISIS is an American project friend. Therefore Nato never really hits ISIS. There is a fucking two sided game in there. USAF hits ISIS then support them from under hand. Because they need chaos there

What do You calling "really"?
In the same mode, how it was made with "Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan"?

Explain better, how USA support ISIS, with proofs, please.
You have no evidence of so easy to control fact of Russian Bombings on ISIS,
but You are talking about "hidden support from USA on ISIS".


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 28, 2016, 08:50:26 PM
No any state says that "i support terror" but super powers like US, Russia, UK, Israel, Germany support terror behind curtains.
Which weapons Isis uses? They bought Katyusha Missiles from grocer? AK-47?


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Spendulus on March 28, 2016, 11:29:14 PM
I think nato wont come to fight with ISIS' side, nato wants to wipe out this terrorist group not just them but all terrorist group. But if nato will be on ISIS' side they would be feared by people of the world. And UN still won't take action regarding this terrorism.
ISIS is an American project friend. Therefore Nato never really hits ISIS. There is a fucking two sided game in there. USAF hits ISIS then support them from under hand. Because they need chaos there
Wrong.  To the extent there is support for ISIS, credit Obama and Hillary.  That's not the attitude of 90+% of the USA.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 29, 2016, 07:49:25 PM
Quote
The U.S. military has ordered military family members to evacuate southern Turkey, primarily from Incirlik Air Base the Pentagon said Tuesday.
Family members will also be evacuated from facilities in Izmir and Mugla, according to a Pentagon statement.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Oriannaa on March 29, 2016, 07:55:24 PM
Like every war.

Its pretty much a business to the political leaders of each country and the vicitims are usually almost everyone in that country.

NATO is basically taken more space all over not just ISIS.

If we look at other sources esp going on with north and south of russias`s ukraine situation, its due to NATOs involvement as well.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Racey on March 29, 2016, 07:57:53 PM
Quote
The U.S. military has ordered military family members to evacuate southern Turkey, primarily from Incirlik Air Base the Pentagon said Tuesday.
Family members will also be evacuated from facilities in Izmir and Mugla, according to a Pentagon statement.

This is because IS are expected to attack Jewish schools, according to the msm news.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 29, 2016, 08:05:43 PM


This is because IS are expected to attack Jewish schools, according to the msm news.

I think, that there is enough of captured salafi clowns, to explain the actions for shortest time future to investigators.

How usa based news taking infos from Syria (ISIS) without accreditated journalist in Syria is for me a mystery.
Maby they have a crystal sfere or calling directly to mr. Al Baghdadi??


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: magnific61 on March 29, 2016, 08:11:12 PM
If you have double standart, then i claim chechen militants who made Beslan attack weren't terrorists, they were freedom fighter. Do not make good terrorist bad terrorist issue


Who is responsable of Beslan hostage keeping?
What have Abu Faukh from Jeddah (Saudi Arabia) and Khodov Vladimir from Berdiansk (Ukraine) to do with "chechenian militants" of "Caucasus Emirate"?
This terroristic organisation is listed and recognised as branch of Al Qaeda, and this is a sectant stucture with international caracter and in direct contrast with Quran.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Flag_of_Caucasian_Emirate.svg/300px-Flag_of_Caucasian_Emirate.svg.png
The flag of salafi lunatics "Caucasian Emirate".

How are jews rappresent them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafist_Jihadism

You invaded Chechenia and killed many people there. The tried defending their homeland. By killing russian soldiers or by attacking cities in russia. secondary action is terror but PYD and PKK do same in Turkey. And you claim Chechens were terrorists but PYD not. What a f..king mentality!


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: spartak_t on March 29, 2016, 09:53:29 PM
magnific61,

You have no idea on what you are talking about.

P.S. ISIS is a "product" by the powerful countries... that's it.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Hirose UK on March 31, 2016, 03:03:41 AM
Why NATO ally is bombing Kurdish Anti Terrorist Militaries in coordinated noment of ISIS attacks?

I though ISIS was a terrorist group who killed and enslave people for their cause,why the hell would NATO be helping ISIS?.
maybe NATO has made friends with ISIS, or they have the same goals that make them need to work in pairs. there should be a secret we don't know yet.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 31, 2016, 11:58:21 AM
P.S. ISIS is a "product" by the powerful countries... that's it.

The ISIS manages to stay relevant thanks to the generous funds and support which they receive from Islamist countries such as Turkey, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia. If Turkey just closes its border with the Caliphate, then that will end in the disintegration of the ISIS. But they will never do that. Turkey needs ISIS and ISIS needs Turkey. Turkey is profiting enormously from the ISIS crude deliveries, and the billions of Euros in funds received from the European Union, while the ISIS is also a benefactor as Turkey allows its recruits to cross the border.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 31, 2016, 01:37:44 PM
thanks to

Thanks to the Oil trade with Turkey.


Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 31, 2016, 03:50:53 PM
If you have double standart, then i claim chechen militants who made Beslan attack weren't terrorists, they were freedom fighter. Do not make good terrorist bad terrorist issue


Who is responsable of Beslan hostage keeping?
What have Abu Faukh from Jeddah (Saudi Arabia) and Khodov Vladimir from Berdiansk (Ukraine) to do with "chechenian militants" of "Caucasus Emirate"?
This terroristic organisation is listed and recognised as branch of Al Qaeda, and this is a sectant stucture with international caracter and in direct contrast with Quran.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Flag_of_Caucasian_Emirate.svg/300px-Flag_of_Caucasian_Emirate.svg.png
The flag of salafi lunatics "Caucasian Emirate".

How are jews rappresent them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafist_Jihadism

2. You invaded Chechenia and killed many people there.
The tried defending their homeland.
 By killing russian soldiers or by attacking cities in russia.
secondary action is terror but PYD and PKK do same in Turkey.
1. And you claim Chechens were terrorists but PYD not. What a f..king mentality!

1. Are You serious?
What did mister Doku Umarov at 10 October 2007 wit subscription of omra Number 4?

http://www.kavkazcenter.com/russ/content/2007/12/10/54917_1.jpg
 (http://www.kavkazcenter.com/russ/content/2007/12/10/54917/amir-imarata-kavkaz-uprazdnil-kabinet-ministrov-i-parlament-byvshej-chri.shtml)

Quote
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Here is about joining in a branch of Al Qaeda Emirate of Caucasus.

To be a part of Al Qaeda is a document, read it.

You even use a wrong name of Vilayat Nochchicho, part of Emirate of Caucasus, the branch of Al Qaeda.

http://www.ict.org.il/Article/132/Salafist-Takfiri%20Jihadism%20the%20Ideology%20of%20the%20Caucasus%20Emirate


2. If You have troubles in finging facts, about who have invaded the other's land, just check here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Dagestan

It will help on amnesia.



Title: Re: NATO is in fight on ISIS side.
Post by: jassii on April 09, 2016, 05:15:27 AM
No need to bother in Syria!! It's all over bar the shouting
Which does make one wonder, (http://shiromaniakalidalofficial.blog.com/)  precisely whom the US were bombing for 18 months that allowed IS to double the territory they occupied? Mmmnnn
Oh and if they want rid of Assad - (https://twitter.com/akali_dal_) they are going to have to go through Russia
(given that they were beaten out of Afghanistan by hill farmers on Hondas - that might not be such a good idea)