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What happened::

I found this guy scammed user on bitify.com and the account was suspended. He lied to me that it's not his account and can't explain it after I took the proofs.

Also, most his feedbacks were given by very fresh accounts which were registered within 3 weeks.

Scammers Profile Link:

https://bitify.com/user/bleachedno/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552856
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812432
http://thebot.net/members/bleachedno.289849/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=386997
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=560942
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=813137
https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/Renovel/
https://paxful.com/user/Renovel
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263555
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=533060
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812811


Reference Link:

http://archive.is/YI92U
http://archive.is/y2Efd
http://archive.is/vISnT
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1395621
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392575.0
http://archive.is/1XVW0
http://archive.is/Utszg
http://archive.is/Rtbvd
http://archive.is/2oV3Y
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg14577729#msg14577729

Amount Scammed: 0 BTC

PM/Chat Logs:

https://i.imgur.com/fn8o6w9.png

https://i.imgur.com/cQKS2mt.png


The Account & Wallet He Is Using:

Josephps@secure-mail.cc
Renovel.CLUB@gmail.com
1Q5DQ4NVMMN2yBDyFHnHNbj7GVNfU9Pfc6
1EaZ6MR5GmBc2rw7mYoxLPRBRFW7Zzscsj
1NUN527jJEgmAsiyz96Fd7wmEjHuWN7xgq
19zXzVHyU6AHP93PXiFPTXijgn7jRvdfgZ
15vNRDRgbKg3h2S4HDdDSuTLkMpJQiYhh1
15jCA6gubVyPUpFJQ3orsujm8hMmfNZgSc
18x81RLKZKrAgdyT5B7YHa6VTrza372fJE
1QQWNNdAMgebiEnLXaZ5tsauEPjEEg9D1
1BamAaaHCQMYgGGGd6a6rGa99nNZihncmW
1Ff8TxaF2JVKgVcXUQiAXnoGprrTaBFA8s
1My1LpsiGPVJxv5AbrW43vzMPNBDap4VD
1Bcfd8GZ27c4HmbCkcVNw93HDhx5g8S7Mb
1JhB1bKwDLuw6F7q8aZ2isPuTV6nYwg9V
1QECzAKgfoZHE5jFzSnP2LThZegyrYAdDe
1P1DX6UQgn1dybEXcG5YK9AMTwFj3LH4s9
16hVYytEiPoDxYkRH2zcgeGLNHZZZg2z38
1NFiJupnTfshictqshhskzHh2qmwTgqcT9
1KcgWCXeVmM5HtWPCmtTwbkh6vpgSuif2Q
1Djk8uXnkX7urSneX9JtRuNbdtA5cEMgVy
12sp6n1Joqe752SeKk36BZu4CUAJKjs93w
1DtAWwJ45C7x5YKgcYv5doF41QnXbSxMj7
1DbAojecqZvZCbU2A7tyYhQUW4VnkfkRH3
1A1FVwDuiDbEfakxkAEGbN3R49GquGRrfR
166cAKvm2JXT7nA6VUxLnXNuZX6M9vs3wM
16oRyvGzosFiZLqgfMT6kThjbmXWAWr4G9
1M45eGSynq5GP1Vg9Mj1yumMcWJsA3atVS
12TekAm5jsPN1NgLx6a1BZ9UbhQ9q6oH8m
3HWkS6zMTLWWpxj1uXwUfPh45KzJGpgoDx
12mnFECJ16uuuhscU6f685U3RhtGwNYCSY
3Hv8v422pMRAaoAKxHpvJ7MwkqK6PkTHsk
18yX58LwjN8mttijNC9zWt8CApiBJrfPoG
3GFhqe6PgU7JQ2HM7eNe617kEsHVvB3NHC
1L3tPV3KTGw3oGoMboGgLtWu6WSjBhZwd8

Additional Notes:

1. Skype name:

Josephps-msdn
Bleachendo
hinally54
Renovel.CLUB

Very insightful response. Let me know when you're ready to explain why you used a bitify account that's not yours as a "vouch" on your thread here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1395621
http://archive.is/YI92U

EDIT:
Pretty stupid. How are you gonna claim that's not you when you're still using the URL in your thread? Either you're lying or used a fake vouch.

Where i delete my posts?!
or even edited it ?
And where is the "proof" i scammed anyone on bitify?

Honestly i not care your feedback

Then why lie saying that wasn't you?

I never said you scammed anyone. Feedback was left because you tried claiming that wasn't you, so you were using someone else's reputation as a vouch  ::)

Man i do not LIE i am not the guy on bitify!!

I use only the website cryptothrift....

And this user was refunded by Cryptothrift and he then gave me this scam accusation, i stoped to sell msdn and admins because luptin allready warned me


Here : http://cryptothrift.com/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1395621

Under *Vouches*:
https://bitify.com/user/bleachedno/feedback/

So, you faked a vouch then if that's not you?

Please explain if you want me to remove the feedback.

I use the website here : http://cryptothrift.com/ <----------- and this is not bitify.com

No i not faked any vouches here you can see my feedback : http://cryptothrift.com/user/bleachedno/feedback/

Nevermind eithert i am blind or not but the website http://cryptothrift.com/user/bleachedno/feedback/ is Bitify.com

So yes this is me but still there was no scam because the money was never released

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1395621.msg14176400#msg14176400


oh:


Last part is funny. How many accounts are you using that have been warned? Do you just create a new account each time or something?

Nervermind mate if you not belive me your are free to make your own judgment, i can only tell you i have just one account here and this cryptothrift feedback is false.

I will continue my sales here and just accepting your feedfback, this is my last post in this topic.

cryptothirft is BITIFY and i just not checked this out thats all dude, i still used the OLD url...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812432 - LOL.. Lutpin warns you so you create another account. It doesn't matter if I remove my feedback, someone else will just readd it.

You can't see how this makes you look bad?

No you are so wrong...

LUPTIN GAVE A NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON BLEACHEDNO ACCOUNT AND REMOVED IT AFTER I PROMISED TO STOP THE MSDN SALES

i have only 1 acccount!

I'll let you and the others figure out how I found the other account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812432) . Hint: it has something to do with one of your posts from a couple of days ago and PayPal.

i not have any other account and will never have any other account, i am 100% sure that this dankem is doing fake accounts you like to see some pm where he try to blackmail me ?!

Another hint: https://archive.is/kbh0T

yes my paypal is Josephps@secure-mail.cc, this is not a secret and then !?

i wasted enough time on this forum i will not reply anymore now.

lol and you not need to archive it i never edited any post

https://archive.is/W2ntX

Just in case it's deleted or whatever.. Duplicate threads using alts are not allowed.



lol

https://i.imgur.com/zGHwVrh.png


I am 100% sure he is the josephp guy and just try to give me more negative feedback, anyway belive what you think or not think you are free to make your judgment.

Why i need to send him anything for free care to explain this?

Maybe he did try to frame you BUT I still find it very hard to believe you were logging into and posting links to one site and never noticed the name or url change.

Otherwise you're just a phishing victim waiting, so either way I recommend anyone dealing with you to be very cautious.

Note my pm please :

I NEVER claimed i did not notice the "name change" i admit that it's very strange yes but yesterday i did just (how to say) read the accusation about it in a fly i not really took notice of bitify...

Anyway i will stay on this forum even if i get 100 negative feedbacks because i am not a scammer and wont scam.

(a side note) please do not think that il take this as evidence but i exchanged 75$ for skrill (reversible) and 2x 5$ and 1x 10$ via paypal (reversible) why i did not chargeback then?

My account is not really worth anything so

Nice find, that definitely would of been his new scam account, unbelievable that he is trying to say I would frame him with that joseph account. Scammers these days will lie about anything and thats all they are a good at.

let me grab again some set of popcon :), so exlpain yourself why you asked me to give you a free msdn admin account ?

I will for sure not leave this forum you can all give me negative feedback i really not care that

You're not too bright, I already mentioned you can reverse your msdn account back to you so its worthless, so your accounts are of no use, I would most likely report them

you EVADE MY QUESTION :

Why you asked me to give you something FREE who are you to ask this and for what REASON

You can continue this for months if you like, i will still not stop to sell my stuff on this forum ;)

Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't be surprised if one of you MSDN kids did create a account just to try and hurt competition. Which is why I didn't leave bleachedno negative feedback for that.

I not care about the feedback anymore now i would like to know for what reason dankem ask me to give him a free msdn account!?

Again yes i do admit the fact it did lie about that i am not the guy on bitify.com and it was a very bad move to do so, but i was really not aware of the double name of crypto and bitify.

And yes my paypal e-mail is infact josephps@secure-mail.cc

I not care about what you not care about. Your msdn accounts are worthless scammer, also can you stop "I not caring?"

Admit the Josephc btctalk account is yours, pretty stupid to say that I made that account to frame you when its not even frame worthy

you still evade the main question but here again only for you :


you EVADE MY QUESTION :

Why you asked me to give you something FREE who are you to ask this and for what REASON

One site redirects to the other. How did you not notice that?

and again, vouch from your thread:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1395621.msg14176548#msg14176548
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1395621.msg14216663#msg14216663

Why would you add that vouch if it wasn't true, since you claim to have not known about bitify.

Not trying to be a dick or anything but nothing adds up here.

xester i use copy paste for the url i know it does not match up but i really did not notice the part.

and once more :

dankem EVADE MY QUESTION :

Why you asked me to give you something FREE who are you to ask this and for what REASON

Before bitify was cryptothfit and this url is still in service

This thread and your comments are not making you look good, its time to admit you're a scammer and repent

Defend yourself and tell us why you asked me via pm to give you a free msdn admin account please


*

Any trusted member can login to my account to verify that this pm are real

So if I'm reading this right:

https://archive.is/kbh0T

bleachedno posted the "josephps" name on March 30, then someone jumped into a time machine and went back to create this account

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=812432

on March 27 to frame bleachedno.

Is that what happened here?

I have no idea about this my skype is on many other forums such as thebot or HF LF and some german forums.

Why you all jump on me but your supporting blackmail right?

You're the one spamming this "blackmail" thing here. Create a new thread to complain about dankem and stop derailing this one. How about you address your own issues.

The bitify user is not you
Then it's you but you were suspended unfairly
The Josephps account is not you, someone framed you
Then it turns out it's a massive cross-forum conspiracy...

So far it's just your words against fairly solid verifiable evidence.

Read all the topic dude ... this is really the last post in this topic

1) i did said later it is me i was did just not got the connection about the url first time

2) Where show me WHERE i said i was suspended unfairly show me this quote please :) i wonder where i ever said this ^^

3) Yes it's not mine belive it or not your free to make your own judgment

4) ?

so now again i will just blackmail you and then you still defend his actions?

Why he ask me for a free account does he have any right to do so ?

Just answer this only question pls

Did I miss something? Post proof of blackmailing. Full convo between you two would help. Not just a screenshot of him asking you to send his account.

you can login to my account to check this pm's are real let me know if you agree

Here you go:



So now you're saying the suspension was fair/deserved? Please elaborate on what you did to get suspended there.


I did and it's quite obvious that you're lying.


This was in reference to your claims that you posted your skype account on other forums. So according to you someone figured out your Josephps name from other forums and created an account on Bitcointalk to frame you. Sounds like a serious conspiracy. Can you post some links to where you shared your Josephps name on other forums?


I don't care about your squabbles with dankem. Why should I? Stop derailing the thread and stop lying if you want to have any chance of digging yourself out of this hole.

Dont waste your time with this msdn scammer he owes me an msdn account from his scams and a bunch of others it seems

I busted his other bitfy accounts on my thread which are suspended as well

Also stop curving this thread, this thread is about you, deal with it

Let him login in your account same as i agree, you still evade the question why you asked me a free account

I told you now 2 times i do not care the feedback anymore, now go ahead and support the blackmailers ;)

Just post the full convo between you two.. No need for anyone to login to your account unless he flat out denies sending you the messages.

Basically its just him begging me to remove my feedback so he can most likely scam someone again. i said sure if you send me back my msdn account you owe me. he said no, I said I will keep hunting you down until you do.

Yes sure, then you will claim that i did photoshop it or even used inspect elements.

He does deny it allready because i asked him so far 4 times why he asked me to give him a free account why do you not ask him why he evade the question?

LMAO ok please post this message where you said the following that i own you an account please post this right now cmon post it

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Post as well the message where i beg you to remove it please post it right now if you are serious :)

Just post the convo, if anyone makes those claims you can let them log in and feel like a asshole afterwards.

He didn't. See his reply above. Same thing the one screenshot is showing....

BTW after begging luptin to remove his negative feedback, for not selling MSDN again he goes on and makes an msdn thread again https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1421152.0  :D

Reported to Luptin

PLease post the convo where you asked me that i OWN you a new msdn admin please post it

You finally admitted that is your account.

You started selling on March 12 but didn't notice they are the same!? Funny joke.

As i said i always use the url www.cryptothrift.com and this is still working so i not really took notice of bitify in the first place

However i still not scammed this guy because the money was NEVER released from escrow

That's how escrow is supposed to work. Why don't explain what actually happened there. You sold an MSDN account, did you deliver it to the buyer, was there a problem with the account, etc?

Edit: and you can cut the cryptothrift nonsense, the site redirects to bitify, there is a logo on each page, and you posted a bitify link yourself. Nice try, but let's focus on reality for a moment, can you do that?

Look mate :  fuck you....

I not care anymore about this topic belive what you like or not belive it i not watch this here anymore

Yes i am a big scammer so now il go and chargeback the 3x paypal and 2x skrill then i am a SCAMMER

Ok, scammer. This is your deleted thread.

http://archive.is/vISnT

where it's deleted i removed 2 of your no sense posts :)

You can keep posting 200000 weeks i wont leave this account and i wont stop to sell my stuff here

I was just asking a question - how come the escrow got returned to the buyer if you did nothing wrong?

Anyway, since you admitted being a scammer I guess that's a moot point now.

Where i admited i am a scammer  ::) i said i will charge back THAN i am a scammer you should learn to read, if you like il send you .5 btc for some leasons !?


I got returned simply because i sold it and i not got it on stock and after 48 hours it was returned to him that easy

Why dont you just do what he requests..

If youre not trying to evade the situation.. you`ll just do it? makes no sense at this point.

and if your stories of the vouches or whatever pull through then you get that removed.

Bleach is a scammer, if you do not believe me, look on how irrational is behavior is.
Also I had confrontation with him.

So what do you want? He is already a scammer even if he never traded with you.

We did conduct a trade and he tried to scam me.

Re: bleachedno Is The Scammer on bitify.com and is morocco.man

The proof is in the wallet: http://archive.is/Rtbvd

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg14577729#msg14577729

Yes. Don't know how I missed it.

I will update the thread soon and add his another two alt accounts.

It surprises how moroccoman has so many alt accounts in the forum and most of them are permanantly banned.Isn't his ip suppose to be perma banned ? If yes,I wonder how does he gets away everytime ,tor nodes?

I even think morocco.man is a group.

He still can use free proxies or VPN to fake IP.

I think morocco is that scammers first account or the scammer belongs to morocco? AFAIK morocco is a place.

I really haven't looked at any of the evidence however this statement is not correct, well maybe technically correct but not in a sense that you should be in any way trusted. If funds were in escrow and the funds were released back to the buyer after a dispute then you essentially were attempting to scam. While it is true that you didn't actually steal any money, you should still be labeled a scammer because of the attempt.

The above of course assumes that you didn't tell the escrow to release the funds because for some reason you were unable to deliver when you thought you would.

It's certainly possible that morocco.man has more than one person behind the key board - it would explain why some of the Alt's have claimed other Alt's scammed them - then again it could be a smoke screen to avoid detection to throw an Alt to the winds...

While it's true Morocco is a place in Northern Africa, morocco.man doesn't look to be the first user name, rather, the one that the other's get labelled with.

I can confirm he scammed me with Netflix accounts and a Spotify redeem code, I can show the proof, I give him money with paypal.
You're certainly a scammer, you're just a poorthing boy, nothing else.
You're lucky because you're behind your keyboard, like all people like you.

I've gathered all the various threads together and have come up with ~ 30 UID's that are attributed to morocoo.man

27 Accounts Connected:

ShakinHandz u=141051 Alanay u=263555 justspare u=386997 frodoe7 u=519403 morocco.man u=525932 mustang01 u=532322 aicha3011 u=533060 ifightformerkel . u=533349 Cereberus u=536619 smho_16 u=544789 marcos258 u=550375 bleachedno u=552856 rally-oillybia u=560942 hex13 u=561359 casio87 u=562081 wmz1987 u=633242 funday u=637255 zend7 u=639442 from10to1280 u=713392 samantlia u=739523 BitcoinSupremo u=754727 fbads u=797201 nexaly u=801585 Josephps u=812432 roni80 u=812811 Renovel u=813137 dogchain u=824352

Proof:
    
Scammer Family Tree Mk II - morocco.man - 27 UID's connected!  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1925386.0  http://archive.is/aEwee