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Title: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 03, 2016, 08:22:57 PM
not good longterm plan for the forum


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: shorena on April 03, 2016, 08:39:23 PM
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Post only long and quality posts, because if you spam the forum you can get banned and lose your money maker.
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Small addition here. If you get banned you not only lose your account, but also you as a person are no longer welcome here. Evading your ban will prolong your ban or even make it permanent. Spam is the most common reason to get banned. You have been warned.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: gkv9 on April 03, 2016, 10:21:01 PM
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Post only long and quality posts, because if you spam the forum you can get banned and lose your money maker.
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Small addition here. If you get banned you not only lose your account, but also you as a person are no longer welcome here. Evading your ban will prolong your ban or even make it permanent. Spam is the most common reason to get banned. You have been warned.

Not just limited to that, making 20 posts a day is easy, but if he thinks he could buy, let's say, 10 accounts and will be able to make 200 posts a day with all of them, then I think that this guy is one of the most stupid persons I have ever witnessed, because it ain't so easy to make those many meaningful posts per day, one needs to be Einstein in terms of Cryptos in order to do that much daily...


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 03, 2016, 10:24:39 PM
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Post only long and quality posts, because if you spam the forum you can get banned and lose your money maker.
-snip-

Small addition here. If you get banned you not only lose your account, but also you as a person are no longer welcome here. Evading your ban will prolong your ban or even make it permanent. Spam is the most common reason to get banned. You have been warned.

Not just limited to that, making 20 posts a day is easy, but if he thinks he could buy, let's say, 10 accounts and will be able to make 200 posts a day with all of them, then I think that this guy is one of the most stupid persons I have ever witnessed, because it ain't so easy to make those many meaningful posts per day, one needs to be Einstein in terms of Cryptos in order to do that much daily...

Who said 10 accounts here, only 4 accounts, 20 posts, thats 80 posts.

If you cant do that much, then stick to 1 account. It's that easy.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: equator on April 03, 2016, 10:57:20 PM
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Post only long and quality posts, because if you spam the forum you can get banned and lose your money maker.
-snip-

Small addition here. If you get banned you not only lose your account, but also you as a person are no longer welcome here. Evading your ban will prolong your ban or even make it permanent. Spam is the most common reason to get banned. You have been warned.

Not just limited to that, making 20 posts a day is easy, but if he thinks he could buy, let's say, 10 accounts and will be able to make 200 posts a day with all of them, then I think that this guy is one of the most stupid persons I have ever witnessed, because it ain't so easy to make those many meaningful posts per day, one needs to be Einstein in terms of Cryptos in order to do that much daily...

Who said 10 accounts here, only 4 accounts, 20 posts, thats 80 posts.

If you cant do that much, then stick to 1 account. It's that easy.

You saw daily 20 post that is i think not possible for you should be having a good knowledge about bitcoins and sports gambling, then also 1 account you can manage but 4 accounts is not possible, for me 7 days 50 post is also difficult .

Paper work every one can do but when it comes to reality it will differ with lot of loop holes and problems. That is why keep one account clean and clear. Do some trading in alt coins and do some skill work for bitcoins . which is much better to earn high.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: mrcash02 on April 03, 2016, 11:55:22 PM
Much better than risk your money on any Ponzi, HYIP scam or Gambling. You just need to have knowledge about BTC, alt-coins, legit and scam investiments, hints to newbies... There is a lot of subjects, suggestions, reviews to write about and i think it's possible to do it. I just don't have sure if the forum will allow it if they know that you are earning so much from accounts...

And if the forum has more active members it can be easiest because more subjects will come to the discussion.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: NorrisK on April 04, 2016, 06:18:55 AM
Also, most if not all signature campaigns do NOT condone using multiple accounts in their campaigns. Unless you are running in different campaigns, I wouldn't recommend using multiple accounts.

People are generally hunting down sig campaign members for any missteps and reasons to get them banned, posting in the same style many times a day acros different accounts will get you flagged at some point, especially if you are going to have conversations with yourself in order to boost your posts again..


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: Amph on April 04, 2016, 06:35:34 AM
you forgot that most signature are closed minus yobit spammer maybe, but with that campaign you need to spam plenty of post for a mere earning, so risk of being banned increase a lot


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 04, 2016, 06:45:17 AM
Also, most if not all signature campaigns do NOT condone using multiple accounts in their campaigns. Unless you are running in different campaigns, I wouldn't recommend using multiple accounts.

People are generally hunting down sig campaign members for any missteps and reasons to get them banned, posting in the same style many times a day acros different accounts will get you flagged at some point, especially if you are going to have conversations with yourself in order to boost your posts again..

Yes there are risks, we know that.

But i think it's still better than using faucets, which have the risk of getting a virus on your pc if you visit too many popup ads or shit like that.

So i`d go with the sig campaign.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on April 04, 2016, 09:25:13 AM
Great tutorial for newbies that come here and first thing they ask is how to earn bitcoin easily.

Now on a second note why all this hate towards the Yobit campaign, I can understand that many people from this campaign may spam but you should not judge all persons equal. I am a member of this signature and post quite lot daily but I don't spam the forum, I mainly post in 4 forums here, Service Discussion, Beginner and Help, Bitcoin Discussion and my favorite one Gambling.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: Herbert2020 on April 04, 2016, 10:12:06 AM
1) make the font small (regular) it is just consuming unnecessary space
2) this is not a tutorial on earning bitcoin it is explaining only one way (signature campaign) of earning so change the title to how to earn with signature campaign
3) the amount of earning is not 0.007BTC/day because those campaigns are full!
4) buying (having) 4 accounts in total and posting with them means spamming and all the accounts will be banned


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: defined on April 04, 2016, 12:42:04 PM
I am taking the slow way, waiting to become Full Member on my own. After reading your tutorial it is worth buying an account, but I do not want to go that road.

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Work only 4 hours/day only and you can earn 0.84BTC/month (350$)!
Living in a rich country, this is not worth your time. Lawn mowing earns more. But if you live in a poor country, this could be a very good source of income. Four hours a day earns a low end laptop a month. You could even consider outsourcing this to a cheap-labor-country (say China or Vietnam). Some topics already are filled with signature-campaign-members only, just discussing the same things over and over again. I expect rates to go down if more people use it.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: odolvlobo on April 04, 2016, 05:36:54 PM
Buy 3 more accounts, sign up those too, that will be around 80 posts/day which can be done in 4 hours. Work only 4 hours/day only and you can earn 0.84BTC/month (350$)! It can be a full time job if you are dedicated, but remember no spam or you get banned!

1. It is not possible to make 80 meaningful posts in 4 hours. That's one post every 3 minutes. Anyone posting at that rate is really just spamming because there is no way their posts could have any real quality or value.

2. As far as jobs go, signature campaigns don't pay very well. According to your numbers (which are exaggerated), a person can make $3/hour. Perhaps that might be a lot in a poor country, but minimum wage in the U.S. is more than twice that. Get a minimum wage job and earn twice as many bitcoins per hour.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: BitMaxz on April 04, 2016, 05:58:16 PM
This is not a good way to earn bitcoin. if you are newbie better to learn first before you can start earning it..
this steps is not good mostly for newbie.. it will result to spammer if they dont know what is bitcoin..


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: mrcash02 on April 04, 2016, 06:08:27 PM
Buy 3 more accounts, sign up those too, that will be around 80 posts/day which can be done in 4 hours. Work only 4 hours/day only and you can earn 0.84BTC/month (350$)! It can be a full time job if you are dedicated, but remember no spam or you get banned!

1. It is not possible to make 80 meaningful posts in 4 hours. That's one post every 3 minutes. Anyone posting at that rate is really just spamming because there is no way their posts could have any real quality or value.

2. As far as jobs go, signature campaigns don't pay very well. According to your numbers (which are exaggerated), a person can make $3/hour. Perhaps that might be a lot in a poor country, but minimum wage in the U.S. is more than twice that. Get a minimum wage job and earn twice as many bitcoins per hour.

In rich countries maybe it's not worth. But for poor countries it's a good method. We can earn more than 2 dollars daily with signature campaign. 8 dollars using 4 accounts writing 80 daily posts average. Some people work 8 daily hours to earn 300 dollars on my country (or less).

This way i think it's good, trying to work 8 daily hours for write some posts. I agree with you that write all in 4 hours is a bit exagerated. And there is always a incentive because we can reach to Hero, Legendary ranks earning more (and campaign avatars too!).


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: shorena on April 04, 2016, 08:37:43 PM
Buy 3 more accounts, sign up those too, that will be around 80 posts/day which can be done in 4 hours. Work only 4 hours/day only and you can earn 0.84BTC/month (350$)! It can be a full time job if you are dedicated, but remember no spam or you get banned!

1. It is not possible to make 80 meaningful posts in 4 hours. That's one post every 3 minutes. Anyone posting at that rate is really just spamming because there is no way their posts could have any real quality or value.

2. As far as jobs go, signature campaigns don't pay very well. According to your numbers (which are exaggerated), a person can make $3/hour. Perhaps that might be a lot in a poor country, but minimum wage in the U.S. is more than twice that. Get a minimum wage job and earn twice as many bitcoins per hour.

In rich countries maybe it's not worth. But for poor countries it's a good method. We can earn more than 2 dollars daily with signature campaign. 8 dollars using 4 accounts writing 80 daily posts average. Some people work 8 daily hours to earn 300 dollars on my country (or less).

This way i think it's good, trying to work 8 daily hours for write some posts. I agree with you that write all in 4 hours is a bit exagerated. And there is always a incentive because we can reach to Hero, Legendary ranks earning more (and campaign avatars too!).

I get that some are desperate for money, but signature campaigns are not even reliable income. It would be better to focus on learning as much about bitcoin as possible, add a programming language thats in demand and start offering coding as a service (or design or whatever is your jam). Start small and cheap at first to get experience and learn more. You can still get a little extra from a campaign. If you focus on posting for coins you will eventually get banned, because you run out of things you can write. Instead of taking a break you have to earn your income and the quality will slip, maybe you think you are smart and can copy from a blog or some other user. Maybe you are not noticed for some time, but in the end you get banned like everyone else that has nothing to contribute.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 04, 2016, 08:42:18 PM
I am taking the slow way, waiting to become Full Member on my own. After reading your tutorial it is worth buying an account, but I do not want to go that road.

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Work only 4 hours/day only and you can earn 0.84BTC/month (350$)!
Living in a rich country, this is not worth your time. Lawn mowing earns more. But if you live in a poor country, this could be a very good source of income. Four hours a day earns a low end laptop a month. You could even consider outsourcing this to a cheap-labor-country (say China or Vietnam). Some topics already are filled with signature-campaign-members only, just discussing the same things over and over again. I expect rates to go down if more people use it.

In most counties on earth, the minimum salary is less than that/month. So i guess many many people will find this very useful.

There are more poor places than rich.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 04, 2016, 08:43:58 PM

2. As far as jobs go, signature campaigns don't pay very well. According to your numbers (which are exaggerated), a person can make $3/hour. Perhaps that might be a lot in a poor country, but minimum wage in the U.S. is more than twice that. Get a minimum wage job and earn twice as many bitcoins per hour.

Yes its actually more because I took the average payout of the campaigns.

And dont be so arrogant, there are tons of poor places on earth, that can find this useful.

I bet you didnt know but in 90% of africa the minimum salary is less than that (Less than 350$/month).


I get that some are desperate for money, but signature campaigns are not even reliable income.

Lets just let everyone decide that for himself.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: shorena on April 04, 2016, 09:05:22 PM
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I get that some are desperate for money, but signature campaigns are not even reliable income.

Lets just let everyone decide that for himself.

No, Im going to force everyone to see the world through my eyes and interpret what they see in my way only. You cant argue away that the board might go offline for a few days (happened), the campaign you enrolled in might end (happens constantly) and you cant get a spot (depending on your post quality, can be a though one).


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: mrcash02 on April 04, 2016, 09:50:42 PM
Buy 3 more accounts, sign up those too, that will be around 80 posts/day which can be done in 4 hours. Work only 4 hours/day only and you can earn 0.84BTC/month (350$)! It can be a full time job if you are dedicated, but remember no spam or you get banned!

1. It is not possible to make 80 meaningful posts in 4 hours. That's one post every 3 minutes. Anyone posting at that rate is really just spamming because there is no way their posts could have any real quality or value.

2. As far as jobs go, signature campaigns don't pay very well. According to your numbers (which are exaggerated), a person can make $3/hour. Perhaps that might be a lot in a poor country, but minimum wage in the U.S. is more than twice that. Get a minimum wage job and earn twice as many bitcoins per hour.

In rich countries maybe it's not worth. But for poor countries it's a good method. We can earn more than 2 dollars daily with signature campaign. 8 dollars using 4 accounts writing 80 daily posts average. Some people work 8 daily hours to earn 300 dollars on my country (or less).

This way i think it's good, trying to work 8 daily hours for write some posts. I agree with you that write all in 4 hours is a bit exagerated. And there is always a incentive because we can reach to Hero, Legendary ranks earning more (and campaign avatars too!).

I get that some are desperate for money, but signature campaigns are not even reliable income. It would be better to focus on learning as much about bitcoin as possible, add a programming language thats in demand and start offering coding as a service (or design or whatever is your jam). Start small and cheap at first to get experience and learn more. You can still get a little extra from a campaign. If you focus on posting for coins you will eventually get banned, because you run out of things you can write. Instead of taking a break you have to earn your income and the quality will slip, maybe you think you are smart and can copy from a blog or some other user. Maybe you are not noticed for some time, but in the end you get banned like everyone else that has nothing to contribute.

Every day more people join the forum community and have the same or similiar doubts or any other subject. So every day we have what to reply and what to ask. If the posts are following the campaign and forum rules, what is the problem? And if the community is growing, it's easiest to find where to post and to answer doubts and give suggestions, feedbacks... A lot os sections too.

Maybe somedays it's not possible to reach to the goal, so try again next day. My only doubt is: If a forum member start earning a lot using this method and following the rules disturb another members?



Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: defined on April 04, 2016, 10:15:40 PM
In most counties on earth, the minimum salary is less than that/month. So i guess many many people will find this very useful.

There are more poor places than rich.
In that case: why is this forum not being flooded yet by tens of thousands of people just to join the signature campaigns?


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on April 04, 2016, 10:25:22 PM
Most hated Bitcoin Making Tutorial Ever.See kids,follow this tutorial and you're looking for a PermaBan.

Comes me as a Surprise why OP being an experienced member encourage's this ? Logically this is what leads to Forum Spamming (which I actually care about).

Other factors to consider
1.Recently bought accounts can only join Shit campaigns like YoShit and ShitMixer .

2.As soon as you wear those signature ,I look for a chance to find your faults like multiple posting,using multiple accounts in the same campaign and such.When I do I report it your campaign Manager ,who will later kick you out and Blah your plan fails.From my experience 90% of YoShit campaigners are not allowed in any of the good campaigns (explicitly due to post quality)

@OP you know this is wrong,if I were you,I'd take down this thread or maybe change the OP to an actual bitcoin making tutorial which doesn't include Spamming The Forum.


In most counties on earth, the minimum salary is less than that/month. So i guess many many people will find this very useful.

Ever heard of Jobs ? Education ? Also  there are 100 million other money making tutorials online like Internet Marketing /CPA/PPD/whatever doesn't involve spamming the forums.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 04, 2016, 11:36:35 PM
Most hated Bitcoin Making Tutorial Ever.See kids,follow this tutorial and you're looking for a PermaBan.

Comes me as a Surprise why OP being an experienced member encourage's this ? Logically this is what leads to Forum Spamming (which I actually care about).

Other factors to consider
1.Recently bought accounts can only join Shit campaigns like YoShit and ShitMixer .

2.As soon as you wear those signature ,I look for a chance to find your faults like multiple posting,using multiple accounts in the same campaign and such.When I do I report it your campaign Manager ,who will later kick you out and Blah your plan fails.From my experience 90% of YoShit campaigners are not allowed in any of the good campaigns (explicitly due to post quality)

@OP you know this is wrong,if I were you,I'd take down this thread or maybe change the OP to an actual bitcoin making tutorial which doesn't include Spamming The Forum.


You must be a very angry person, go outside take a few breaths and calm down.



I don't encourage anything here, I`m just putting out my opinions how to earn bitcoin easily here.


Ok so I changed the description to 8 hours. So if people just take their time to post more quality posts, like every 5 minutes ,then in 8 hours you can work through 80 posts.

That means that you can have this as a day job, post quality posts, and work 8 hours like you would do normally.

And then there will be no spams.

In most counties on earth, the minimum salary is less than that/month. So i guess many many people will find this very useful.

There are more poor places than rich.
In that case: why is this forum not being flooded yet by tens of thousands of people just to join the signature campaigns?

They dont know about bitcoin yet. We need to raise awareness.


No, Im going to force everyone to see the world through my eyes and interpret what they see in my way only. You cant argue away that the board might go offline for a few days (happened), the campaign you enrolled in might end (happens constantly) and you cant get a spot (depending on your post quality, can be a though one).

I`m not sure if you are trolling here.

But yes there are risks, people need to make educated decisions for themselves, after all we are adults here not 5 year olds.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: shanerc563 on April 05, 2016, 02:51:23 AM
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Post only long and quality posts, because if you spam the forum you can get banned and lose your money maker.
-snip-

Small addition here. If you get banned you not only lose your account, but also you as a person are no longer welcome here. Evading your ban will prolong your ban or even make it permanent. Spam is the most common reason to get banned. You have been warned.

Not just limited to that, making 20 posts a day is easy, but if he thinks he could buy, let's say, 10 accounts and will be able to make 200 posts a day with all of them, then I think that this guy is one of the most stupid persons I have ever witnessed, because it ain't so easy to make those many meaningful posts per day, one needs to be Einstein in terms of Cryptos in order to do that much daily...

Who said 10 accounts here, only 4 accounts, 20 posts, thats 80 posts.

If you cant do that much, then stick to 1 account. It's that easy.
You have to look at the time you are going to take to make these 200 posts in a day and what you are going to receive from them.  lets say you are getting .0003 for a post and you can make 200 posts a day.  At the end of the day you will be receiving .06.  That seems like a good amount.  At current rate, that equals out to be about $25 per day.  Now if you are good at typing and you can come up with quality things to add to a post, you can average one post every minute, taking you about 3 hours to make posts.  If you are not that good, you will average about 1 post over a 2 minute period taking about 5.5 hours to make the posts. That averages about $5 per hour on the long end and about $8 per hour on the short end.   You will honestly make more money at a regular job.  To me that is only about $15,000 per year with all the wear and tear on your computer and all, does it make sense?


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 05, 2016, 03:05:02 AM
You will honestly make more money at a regular job.  To me that is only about $15,000 per year with all the wear and tear on your computer and all, does it make sense?


Guys you are very ignorant. Dont you understand that 80-90% of the world is in poverty and earn less than 200$/month net salary?

Here is a list, and substract taxes from those which are usually 50-60%, and consider that there is an elite in every country so the average is distorted

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage


I guarantee you 90% of the world population doesnt earn net 500$ /month .


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: xxxDD on April 05, 2016, 04:02:17 AM
Your tutorial is very helpful, but can you add some information about quality post, ?

such what is quality post, construction of quility post, how to do it

Thank you


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: shorena on April 05, 2016, 05:21:27 AM
@mrcash02

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Every day more people join the forum community and have the same or similiar doubts or any other subject. So every day we have what to reply and what to ask. If the posts are following the campaign and forum rules, what is the problem? And if the community is growing, it's easiest to find where to post and to answer doubts and give suggestions, feedbacks... A lot os sections too.

Maybe somedays it's not possible to reach to the goal, so try again next day. My only doubt is: If a forum member start earning a lot using this method and following the rules disturb another members?

It starts to become a problem when those that have no idea think they can give out advice about something they have no clue about. There are some horrible bad advice posts in the tech support section done by sig campaigners. Would you come here and ask your questions if it turns out that people give you bad advice and you might lose your coins because someone wanted to earn a few satoshi of the post? I dont think so. You can only maintain this system as long as the quality stays up.



@RealBitcoin

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No, Im going to force everyone to see the world through my eyes and interpret what they see in my way only. You cant argue away that the board might go offline for a few days (happened), the campaign you enrolled in might end (happens constantly) and you cant get a spot (depending on your post quality, can be a though one).

I`m not sure if you are trolling here.

But yes there are risks, people need to make educated decisions for themselves, after all we are adults here not 5 year olds.

Its called sarcasm. Some here act like 5 year olds in a candy store though. Post for the satoshi no thought left on the consequences for others or the forum. Threads like these make this worse, month by month. New shitposters come, they post their garbage, they get banned. When someones first question is how to earn money off this forum you know they come here because of messages spread by people like you and the majority of them will be banned in under 3 months because they have nothing to contribute. They dont educate themselves, because they dont care about bitcoin. They just care about the money they can earn.

Just look at this post:

Your tutorial is very helpful, but can you add some information about quality post, ?

such what is quality post, construction of quility post, how to do it

Thank you


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 05, 2016, 06:32:47 AM

Its called sarcasm. Some here act like 5 year olds in a candy store though. Post for the satoshi no thought left on the consequences for others or the forum. Threads like these make this worse, month by month. New shitposters come, they post their garbage, they get banned. When someones first question is how to earn money off this forum you know they come here because of messages spread by people like you and the majority of them will be banned in under 3 months because they have nothing to contribute. They dont educate themselves, because they dont care about bitcoin. They just care about the money they can earn.


So it's better if they don't come at all?

Maybe people need to get taught how to post properly. Maybe moderators need to give warnings before they ban somebody, because it's not a good PR for the forum if people get banned en masse.

The thing is, that people are driven by greed, we can't stop that, and bitcoin is only 6 billion $ today because people are greedy.

So i think the greed approach should be expanded, that is what fuels the price.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: hansom on April 05, 2016, 07:06:20 AM
Thanks for this thread, at least very useful for me. I might try to buy an account and join the signature campaign :)


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: shorena on April 05, 2016, 07:43:09 AM

Its called sarcasm. Some here act like 5 year olds in a candy store though. Post for the satoshi no thought left on the consequences for others or the forum. Threads like these make this worse, month by month. New shitposters come, they post their garbage, they get banned. When someones first question is how to earn money off this forum you know they come here because of messages spread by people like you and the majority of them will be banned in under 3 months because they have nothing to contribute. They dont educate themselves, because they dont care about bitcoin. They just care about the money they can earn.


So it's better if they don't come at all?

If they dont come for bitcoin, but just for its value, yes.

Maybe people need to get taught how to post properly. Maybe moderators need to give warnings before they ban somebody, because it's not a good PR for the forum if people get banned en masse.

Is this how things work for you in live? You come to someones house and behave like a little kid, screaming nonsense and you blame the owner because they set you on the street? Thats not how humans act normally. You come to a new place and you get accustomed with it, you learn the ins and outs, you get to know people, you learn the rules etc. Somehow all this is thrown aboard when there is a little money involved and its online where no one can see your face.

The thing is, that people are driven by greed, we can't stop that, and bitcoin is only 6 billion $ today because people are greedy.

So i think the greed approach should be expanded, that is what fuels the price.

No, greed is what will destroy this and every other community that does not defend itself against it.

Bitcoins success is not because a couple of greedy assholes buy when the price is low and hold until its profitable to sell. Bitcoin works and has value because there is no central control, because its difficult to change its rules and because its difficult to manipulate in general. Bitcoin is a success because a few people gave it to everyone, made and maintain it in their free time. They now earn money off of it, not because they are greedy, but because they are smart and they understand bitcoin better than anyone else.

Greed plans a role in mining, but everything else works because people believe bitcoin can work. Full nodes are not run because of greed, but out of interest or for security. Developers dont write code because they are greedy, but because they want to fix a problem. Probably their own problem, but this also solves problems for others when the source is made public.

Compare it with linux, its free, everything an entire operation system free for everyone on earth. The only thing you pay for is support! On the other hand you have windows, which costs billions[1] to develop and maintain. Do you really think Linux works, because those working on it are greedy?

If greed is your fundamental principle you have a lot to learn.

[1] https://techjourney.net/how-much-time-money-and-human-costs-spent-to-produce-windows-vista/


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 05, 2016, 10:20:48 AM

So it's better if they don't come at all?


Sorry but that is not how people are.

Only 5-10% of users are believers, the rest of them are opportunists that come for money.

We should not let this chance slip us, because partially this is what gives bitcoin's value.

Bitcoin is a libertarian invention, but you can clearly see that there are tons of socialists here also that dont give a crap about bitcoin's principles.

However if they add value to the network, they are welcome.




Is this how things work for you in live? You come to someones house and behave like a little kid, screaming nonsense and you blame the owner because they set you on the street? Thats not how humans act normally. You come to a new place and you get accustomed with it, you learn the ins and outs, you get to know people, you learn the rules etc. Somehow all this is thrown aboard when there is a little money involved and its online where no one can see your face.


Well those people already cant behave like adults, so you have no other way to teach them.


No, greed is what will destroy this and every other community that does not defend itself against it.

Its a double edged sword, i`m aware of its negativities, but it is the fuel to success nontheless.

Only greedy people get to the top, and if you add a little bit of morality too, then it can work out.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: defined on April 05, 2016, 10:37:05 AM
If you are not that good, you will average about 1 post over a 2 minute period taking about 5.5 hours to make the posts.
In a minute I can type 100 words. Typing 1 post per minute is not hard, but making it ontopic and relevant means you also have to read through a few pages for every post you make, and often consider making that post is not necessary.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: shorena on April 05, 2016, 10:50:37 AM

So it's better if they don't come at all?


Please dont misquote me, I never asked that, you did.

Sorry but that is not how people are.

Its not how some people on the internet are, the majority gets it and is not banned for spam.

Only 5-10% of users are believers, the rest of them are opportunists that come for money.

We should not let this chance slip us, because partially this is what gives bitcoin's value.

What is? Bitcoins value is not measured in fiat.

Bitcoin is a libertarian invention, but you can clearly see that there are tons of socialists here also that dont give a crap about bitcoin's principles.

However if they add value to the network, they are welcome.

The network is open to anyone to use, but not everyone adds value to bitcoin. Also, the point was not bitcoin, it was this specific board. People come here to exploit signature campaigns, they will get banned, because the forum has to defend against them. If the forum and its users would not defend, the forum would be unusable because it was ruined for everyone by some greedy idiots.


Is this how things work for you in live? You come to someones house and behave like a little kid, screaming nonsense and you blame the owner because they set you on the street? Thats not how humans act normally. You come to a new place and you get accustomed with it, you learn the ins and outs, you get to know people, you learn the rules etc. Somehow all this is thrown aboard when there is a little money involved and its online where no one can see your face.


Well those people already cant behave like adults, so you have no other way to teach them.

No, greed is what will destroy this and every other community that does not defend itself against it.

Its a double edged sword, i`m aware of its negativities, but it is the fuel to success nontheless.

Only greedy people get to the top, and if you add a little bit of morality too, then it can work out.

Again, misquote, I said that not you. You sound like someone that watched Wall Street, but did not understand its message. Humanity was not build on greed and backstabbing, but on cooperation.

Posting here for a few satoshi is no road to success, unless you learn while doing so. Focusing on 80 posts a day will leave no room for learning or growth.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: mrcash02 on April 05, 2016, 03:22:24 PM

It starts to become a problem when those that have no idea think they can give out advice about something they have no clue about. There are some horrible bad advice posts in the tech support section done by sig campaigners. Would you come here and ask your questions if it turns out that people give you bad advice and you might lose your coins because someone wanted to earn a few satoshi of the post? I dont think so. You can only maintain this system as long as the quality stays up.


I understand that you don't want to see forum quality decreases and i agree with you. It's not good for who wants to post correctly too because there is no knowledge swap. Everybody talks alone... The chat does'nt evolve.

And this method can only work if everybody contribute with something new in the conversation. And of course give bad advices is out of cogitation...



Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 05, 2016, 10:54:58 PM

Please dont misquote me, I never asked that, you did.
That was the answer yo your response: 
Quote
If they dont come for bitcoin, but just for its value, yes.

Sorry for wrong quoting.



Its not how some people on the internet are, the majority gets it and is not banned for spam.

Then what is the problem? If what you say is true then there is no problem.




What is? Bitcoins value is not measured in fiat.


It is, because fiat takes up 99% of value currently, so it's the de facto benchmark for value.

That may change in the future,but currently, fiat is the best benchmark. It's just relative, if you want you can compare it to gold, but i`ll compare it to fiat.



The network is open to anyone to use, but not everyone adds value to bitcoin. Also, the point was not bitcoin, it was this specific board. People come here to exploit signature campaigns, they will get banned, because the forum has to defend against them. If the forum and its users would not defend, the forum would be unusable because it was ruined for everyone by some greedy idiots.

I was referring to commies and socialists here. They bring in their ideology, to build in a wealth redistribution mechanism in the protocol.

It's ridiculous, but they also bring their comrades and add a net 1 million dollar to the community.  Their stupid idea fails, but they still brough 1 million dollar in bitcoin.

Therefore they have added a net positive value to bitcoin.




Again, misquote, I said that not you. You sound like someone that watched Wall Street, but did not understand its message. Humanity was not build on greed and backstabbing, but on cooperation.

Posting here for a few satoshi is no road to success, unless you learn while doing so. Focusing on 80 posts a day will leave no room for learning or growth.

I get it, i`m here for bitcoin, but you have to understand that 90% of people are sheep, and only do what they are told.

The intellectual class is always in minority, but you have to deal with the majority, in their ways, if you want to expand bitcoin.

Bitcoin cant remain forever a geek/programmer/tech enthusiast community, you also have to add 70 year old grandpas, and 20 year old hippies at some point.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: Xainemao on April 05, 2016, 11:12:11 PM
It's really hard to make it work as a new user. I didn't even know you could make that much with campaigns.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: PakistanHockeyfan on April 05, 2016, 11:47:58 PM
It's really hard to make it work as a new user. I didn't even know you could make that much with campaigns.
Don't worry. It is indeed quite possible. As some people have actually already mentioned, purchasing accounts is really possible in order to make some bitcoins with campaigns. I must notify you that campaigns only give you a quarter per day, depending on how often you post in a day which makes it rather tedious.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: Xainemao on April 05, 2016, 11:50:41 PM
It's really hard to make it work as a new user. I didn't even know you could make that much with campaigns.
Don't worry. It is indeed quite possible. As some people have actually already mentioned, purchasing accounts is really possible in order to make some bitcoins with campaigns. I must notify you that campaigns only give you a quarter per day, depending on how often you post in a day which makes it rather tedious.
I'm not ever gonna sign up to some campaign. I'm not an idiot to not know it's like doing a survey online for pennies a day.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: PakistanHockeyfan on April 05, 2016, 11:59:49 PM
It's really hard to make it work as a new user. I didn't even know you could make that much with campaigns.
Don't worry. It is indeed quite possible. As some people have actually already mentioned, purchasing accounts is really possible in order to make some bitcoins with campaigns. I must notify you that campaigns only give you a quarter per day, depending on how often you post in a day which makes it rather tedious.
I'm not ever gonna sign up to some campaign. I'm not an idiot to not know it's like doing a survey online for pennies a day.
Well, alright then. There are some other useful ways to earn BTC here. The goods and services forum will help you.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: Xainemao on April 06, 2016, 12:06:04 AM
It's really hard to make it work as a new user. I didn't even know you could make that much with campaigns.
Don't worry. It is indeed quite possible. As some people have actually already mentioned, purchasing accounts is really possible in order to make some bitcoins with campaigns. I must notify you that campaigns only give you a quarter per day, depending on how often you post in a day which makes it rather tedious.
I'm not ever gonna sign up to some campaign. I'm not an idiot to not know it's like doing a survey online for pennies a day.
Well, alright then. There are some other useful ways to earn BTC here. The goods and services forum will help you.
Lol thanks I'll be heading there in a few.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: PakistanHockeyfan on April 06, 2016, 12:11:36 AM
It's really hard to make it work as a new user. I didn't even know you could make that much with campaigns.
Don't worry. It is indeed quite possible. As some people have actually already mentioned, purchasing accounts is really possible in order to make some bitcoins with campaigns. I must notify you that campaigns only give you a quarter per day, depending on how often you post in a day which makes it rather tedious.
I'm not ever gonna sign up to some campaign. I'm not an idiot to not know it's like doing a survey online for pennies a day.
Well, alright then. There are some other useful ways to earn BTC here. The goods and services forum will help you.
Lol thanks I'll be heading there in a few.
Great. I also wouldn't really recommend faucets. Just another tip.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: TommyBitcoin on April 06, 2016, 01:29:05 AM
If doing this method works for some people then good for them.  Keep in mind, though, that the more people do it, the less effective this method will be.  Signature campaigns will get so watered down that the people will have to move on to something other tedious chore that pays $1 or $2 per hour


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: shorena on April 06, 2016, 09:12:46 AM
-snip-

Its not how some people on the internet are, the majority gets it and is not banned for spam.

Then what is the problem? If what you say is true then there is no problem.

The problem is that you are attracting more greedy idiots with threads like these and those that get it and help make this a valueable and usefull forum will wander off and no longer care. Already a high number of old and knowledgable members are gone.


What is? Bitcoins value is not measured in fiat.


It is, because fiat takes up 99% of value currently, so it's the de facto benchmark for value.

That may change in the future,but currently, fiat is the best benchmark. It's just relative, if you want you can compare it to gold, but i`ll compare it to fiat.

You are talking about price, not value. Bitcoin has intrinsic value due its properties. This has nothing to do with its price and this is exactly why the greedy can not give bitcoin value. They only see its price.


The network is open to anyone to use, but not everyone adds value to bitcoin. Also, the point was not bitcoin, it was this specific board. People come here to exploit signature campaigns, they will get banned, because the forum has to defend against them. If the forum and its users would not defend, the forum would be unusable because it was ruined for everyone by some greedy idiots.

I was referring to commies and socialists here. They bring in their ideology, to build in a wealth redistribution mechanism in the protocol.

It's ridiculous, but they also bring their comrades and add a net 1 million dollar to the community.  Their stupid idea fails, but they still brough 1 million dollar in bitcoin.

Therefore they have added a net positive value to bitcoin.

If they build something, shitposters dont build anything. They just rehash. This is exactly my point. If they come and learn and grow and want to understand bitcoin they can contribute to its value by explaining it correctly to others. The more people deeply understand bitcoin the better.


Again, misquote, I said that not you. You sound like someone that watched Wall Street, but did not understand its message. Humanity was not build on greed and backstabbing, but on cooperation.

Posting here for a few satoshi is no road to success, unless you learn while doing so. Focusing on 80 posts a day will leave no room for learning or growth.

I get it, i`m here for bitcoin, but you have to understand that 90% of people are sheep, and only do what they are told.

Im not so sure about this. There is so much information (in the internet in general, not only about bitcoin) that people can easily feel overwhelmed by it. I think they are not sheep, they are just scared because they dont want to make the wrong decision. Failing to see that there are no wrong decisions in ones own life.

The intellectual class is always in minority, but you have to deal with the majority, in their ways, if you want to expand bitcoin.

Bitcoin cant remain forever a geek/programmer/tech enthusiast community, you also have to add 70 year old grandpas, and 20 year old hippies at some point.

I think we are drifting off a bit from the main topic here, but yes the system must remain open to everyone. I will try to bring this back to the forum and my main point. This forum is not attracting the majority. The majority will install an app and just use it. This forum may serve them though by spreading knowledge to those that help the majority. Discussing ideas on where bitcoin should or should not go. Think about new ways to use bitcoin or new businesses. All this is nothing the majority does, the majority will just consume and use. Pitching this place as a big faucet for posts is doing it discredit. Its a place of knowledge and exchange and yes this will include coins unless you fight against it, but it should not be the main focus.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: Boosterious on April 06, 2016, 10:36:31 AM
I will explain you step-by-step how to earn bitcoin here, on this forum. If you are a newbie and you are confused about how to earn bitcoin, then don't worry, this is the most popular bitcoin earning method that exists, that everyone around here is doing.






1❱ Do you have a Full Member rank bitcointalk.org forum account? 

Yes:  Go to step 5❱                        No: Go to step 2❱




2❱ Do you have 0.02 BTC to buy a Full Member account?

Yes:  Go to step 4❱                        No: Go to step 3❱




3❱ Take a loan of 0.02BTC in the lending section. You must give the lender a proper collateral since you are new on this forum, people won't trust you, so you must make your lender trust you. Look for loans here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=65.0




4❱ Buy a Full Member forum account with your 0.02BTC here, search for people selling them or post your own thread that you want to buy one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0




5❱ Sign up to a signature campaign, one that pays/post not a fixed payment one. With current rates and campaign rules, you get paid for ~20 posts/day, and with a Full Member account you can earn on average 0.007BTC/day. It will take you 4 days to repay your loan, if you have taken one, and after that you will earn for yourself.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0




6❱ Start posting and get paid. With 0.007BTC/day you will earn 0.21/monthBTC (90$)! Post only long and quality posts, because if you spam the forum you can get banned and lose your money maker.




7❱ Buy 3 more accounts, sign up those too, that will be around 80 posts/day which can be done in 7-8 hours like a dayjob. Work only 7 hours/day only and you can earn 0.84BTC/month (350$)! It can be a full time job if you are dedicated, but remember no spam or you get banned!




8❱ Later you will rank up to Sr. Member, and then you will earn ~0.00091667BTC/post, that means that with 20 posts daily and 4 accounts, that's 80 posts/day, you will earn 0.07333333BTC/day and 2.2BTC/month (918.3$)!




Disclaimer: This method is not an investment advice it's just my opinions. This method has some risks which you must consider. I am not responsible for your losses if you somehow lose bitcoins or other valuables.
its rare tutorial if someone mentioning about buy bitcointalk account ;D but i think this is good for newbie,they can loan bitcoin and buy bitcointalk account for join signature campaign,they should hard work and learn.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: Corenin on April 06, 2016, 03:08:35 PM
I think this is a good way to start for a newbie who wants to start earning bitcoins by positing on forum as investment is not too high and returns are very good.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: hasiramasenju on April 06, 2016, 03:34:03 PM
i personally don't recommend for buying account here and better start all it since newbie because if you bought account from scammer i thought you will having trouble too and i was consider that start everything from beginning is more better


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: traitrkng on April 06, 2016, 06:09:41 PM
I do not want to make a simple +1 , mine is a constructive criticism : with 3 account the amount of stuff to post triples , this does not mean the quality of a post.
I think it is easy to spam , you should be limited to having a personal account (as well as to build a respectable identity on the forum for any services )
Cheers ;D


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 06, 2016, 11:29:19 PM

The problem is that you are attracting more greedy idiots with threads like these and those that get it and help make this a valueable and usefull forum will wander off and no longer care. Already a high number of old and knowledgable members are gone.
Thats how humans are, I already told you that only a small minority of bitcoin users are fans, the rest of them are just casual users.

We cant have bitcoin as a small private club anymore, to make it global, we have to deal with greedy people too.

If the high and knowledgeable members left because of this, then are were weak, and they are not really supporting bitcoin.


You are talking about price, not value. Bitcoin has intrinsic value due its properties. This has nothing to do with its price and this is exactly why the greedy can not give bitcoin value. They only see its price.

Bitcoin has whatever value we give them,and currently thats quantified by the price.

Whatever potential value it has other than what is quantifies, we will see in the future.



If they build something, shitposters dont build anything. They just rehash. This is exactly my point. If they come and learn and grow and want to understand bitcoin they can contribute to its value by explaining it correctly to others. The more people deeply understand bitcoin the better.
It's not just shitposters, look i wasnt the inventor of the sig campaigns, if it were up to me i would have done it in a different way.

Perhaps remove signatures, and have only avatar campaigns with fixed monthly payout, and then the spam would be reduced.

But it's not my forum, i`m just using the current opportunities.



Im not so sure about this. There is so much information (in the internet in general, not only about bitcoin) that people can easily feel overwhelmed by it. I think they are not sheep, they are just scared because they dont want to make the wrong decision. Failing to see that there are no wrong decisions in ones own life.
Haha thats funny but you have to learn more about human psychology.  ;)





I think we are drifting off a bit from the main topic here, but yes the system must remain open to everyone. I will try to bring this back to the forum and my main point. This forum is not attracting the majority. The majority will install an app and just use it. This forum may serve them though by spreading knowledge to those that help the majority. Discussing ideas on where bitcoin should or should not go. Think about new ways to use bitcoin or new businesses. All this is nothing the majority does, the majority will just consume and use. Pitching this place as a big faucet for posts is doing it discredit. Its a place of knowledge and exchange and yes this will include coins unless you fight against it, but it should not be the main focus.

Yes this forum is not the only magnet, and it should not be, because that would be a single point of failure.

But it's also the biggest community, so people will most likely find it eventually, and since 99% of bitcoin users are poor, we need to give them incentives.

Mining is not a hype anymore, because that was one of the major magnets that drove greedy people, now probably the sig campaigns are the only income source for greedy people.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: shorena on April 07, 2016, 12:40:37 PM
-snip-
 since 99% of bitcoin users are poor, we need to give them incentives.
-snip-

I have to assume the 99% is just your assumption and not based on anything. I dont see a reason to reply to the rest of your points as we start to circulate. Its pretty obvious that we have greatly different views on the world and maybe some day we will meet in person and talk about it in more detail.

The incentive you give is like the fish in the proverb, where I prefer people would learn to fish instead. Maybe you are right and those that come here no longer have the mental capacity to learn fishing. I hope you are not. I will be here answering questions regardless, at least for a little longer.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: defined on April 07, 2016, 01:16:50 PM
It's really hard to make it work as a new user. I didn't even know you could make that much with campaigns.
Don't worry. It is indeed quite possible. As some people have actually already mentioned, purchasing accounts is really possible in order to make some bitcoins with campaigns. I must notify you that campaigns only give you a quarter per day, depending on how often you post in a day which makes it rather tedious.
I'm not ever gonna sign up to some campaign. I'm not an idiot to not know it's like doing a survey online for pennies a day.
If you are posting here anyway, and have a high post count, you can just as well earn something while posting. It is up to you of course :)


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: notlist3d on April 07, 2016, 01:33:52 PM
-snip-
 since 99% of bitcoin users are poor, we need to give them incentives.
-snip-

I have to assume the 99% is just your assumption and not based on anything. I dont see a reason to reply to the rest of your points as we start to circulate. Its pretty obvious that we have greatly different views on the world and maybe some day we will meet in person and talk about it in more detail.

The incentive you give is like the fish in the proverb, where I prefer people would learn to fish instead. Maybe you are right and those that come here no longer have the mental capacity to learn fishing. I hope you are not. I will be here answering questions regardless, at least for a little longer.

I'm guessing he is talking about his "survey" - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1287718.0 which kinda looked like a attempt to get posts looking at how long it ran, and was all for a pie chart that a very limited number entered into.  Also it being in newbie forum had to effect it.  But even his own survey does not show 99 percent as poor.

The thing about bitcoins is we cannot tie them to a person easily so we can't say blanket figures like 99 percent are poor.   But far less then 99 percent are poor I think.  And what do you consider poor?  As that term means SO many different amounts depending on where you live.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 08, 2016, 03:06:18 AM

I'm guessing he is talking about his "survey" - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1287718.0 which kinda looked like a attempt to get posts looking at how long it ran, and was all for a pie chart that a very limited number entered into.  Also it being in newbie forum had to effect it.  But even his own survey does not show 99 percent as poor.

The thing about bitcoins is we cannot tie them to a person easily so we can't say blanket figures like 99 percent are poor.   But far less then 99 percent are poor I think.  And what do you consider poor?  As that term means SO many different amounts depending on where you live.

Well we didnt know who participated in surveys, but lets just assume it was newbies.

But i have fresh data , if you look at the new number of bitcoin users, mostly from Philipines, and SE asia nowadays, then you can correlate that with faucet users and small earning website users data.

You will interestingly find out that almost all new waves of new bitcoin users end up in faucet sites or other earning sites, with small payouts.

That should suggest that most bitcoin users (which are not the core of this forum, the first 10,000 users) are most likely poor as hell.



Also you can look at the address bitcoin distribution, and the mt gox data to figure out the distribution of wealth.


There are several indicators that point out that most of the wealth is concentrated in the top 2% of bitcoin users :)

The bitcoin elite could hold as much as 65% of the coins.


And the other core users, which is probably not more than 50,000, hold the other 20-25%.

The remaining 10% is then shared by all newbies. I suspect most dont even have 0.2 BTC


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: notlist3d on April 08, 2016, 06:53:33 AM

I'm guessing he is talking about his "survey" - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1287718.0 which kinda looked like a attempt to get posts looking at how long it ran, and was all for a pie chart that a very limited number entered into.  Also it being in newbie forum had to effect it.  But even his own survey does not show 99 percent as poor.

The thing about bitcoins is we cannot tie them to a person easily so we can't say blanket figures like 99 percent are poor.   But far less then 99 percent are poor I think.  And what do you consider poor?  As that term means SO many different amounts depending on where you live.

Well we didnt know who participated in surveys, but lets just assume it was newbies.

But i have fresh data , if you look at the new number of bitcoin users, mostly from Philipines, and SE asia nowadays, then you can correlate that with faucet users and small earning website users data.

You will interestingly find out that almost all new waves of new bitcoin users end up in faucet sites or other earning sites, with small payouts.

That should suggest that most bitcoin users (which are not the core of this forum, the first 10,000 users) are most likely poor as hell.



Also you can look at the address bitcoin distribution, and the mt gox data to figure out the distribution of wealth.


There are several indicators that point out that most of the wealth is concentrated in the top 2% of bitcoin users :)

The bitcoin elite could hold as much as 65% of the coins.


And the other core users, which is probably not more than 50,000, hold the other 20-25%.

The remaining 10% is then shared by all newbies. I suspect most dont even have 0.2 BTC

I mean no offense I just am not a fan of this tutorial.  It suggests buying of accounts, and loans.  Things I think new users should stay away from.  I think account farmers give signature users a bad name due to quality of posts.  As even if buyer does decent posts chances are the farmer had sub-par posts with a beginnner signature campaign.

I don't think you should count the "You will interestingly find out that almost all new waves of new bitcoin users end up in faucet sites or other earning sites, with small payouts." These are users who are brand new and are spending hours for cents.  Which is horrible.  A lot of these I don't consider users as they think it's get rich quick... try faucets... and leave after making cents.

Yes whales own a lot of BTC, but any fiat there is not a even distribution of wealth.  So I think bitcoin is the same as any fiat money.  But I don't think you can say "since 99% of bitcoin users are poor, we need to give them incentives."  I just don't believe this number.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: severaldetails on April 08, 2016, 01:35:40 PM
I don't think that it is possible to write 80 quality posts a day here on bitcointalk.
Especially not if they should be long as here proposed.
If somebody should really have such a wide knowledge about Bitcoins, he would probably do somethinge else with his knowledge that is more profitable than collecting Satoshis with signature campaigns.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 08, 2016, 04:52:17 PM
These are users who are brand new and are spending hours for cents.  Which is horrible.  A lot of these I don't consider users as they think it's get rich quick... try faucets... and leave after making cents.

People come and go, so what?

If they cant add value to bitcoin (thats how you earn money by generating wealth), then that is their value:  few cents.

Perhaps they should find out their talents, that have value, and monetize that instead.

Sorry i dont like socialists.



Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: notlist3d on April 08, 2016, 05:47:58 PM
I mean no offense I just am not a fan of this tutorial.  It suggests buying of accounts, and loans.  Things I think new users should stay away from.  I think account farmers give signature users a bad name due to quality of posts.  As even if buyer does decent posts chances are the farmer had sub-par posts with a beginnner signature campaign.

I don't think you should count the "You will interestingly find out that almost all new waves of new bitcoin users end up in faucet sites or other earning sites, with small payouts." These are users who are brand new and are spending hours for cents.  Which is horrible.  A lot of these I don't consider users as they think it's get rich quick... try faucets... and leave after making cents.

Yes whales own a lot of BTC, but any fiat there is not a even distribution of wealth.  So I think bitcoin is the same as any fiat money.  But I don't think you can say "since 99% of bitcoin users are poor, we need to give them incentives."  I just don't believe this number.

People come and go, so what?

If they cant add value to bitcoin (thats how you earn money by generating wealth), then that is their value:  few cents.

Perhaps they should find out their talents, that have value, and monetize that instead.

Sorry i dont like socialists.



You butchered my post to one line..... I fixed it for you.  I am not pushing anyone to socialist or any extreme view point.   I don't know where you got socialist from. I am just saying if someone does a few faucets and gets a few cent's worth of bitcoin I don't see them as a user that should be considered, if they have left never to come back to it.

Which in your own words you said "You will interestingly find out that almost all new waves of new bitcoin users end up in faucet sites or other earning sites, with small payouts."  These waves a lot don't stay... they think get rich quick and leave once find out it's not a get rich quick scheme.   I just don't see the 99 percent are poor.  99 percent may not be whales I would agree on that, but don't see 99 percent as poor.

I wish you would have made a guide to find "find out their talents, that have value, and monetize that" instead of trying to get new users to join site for signature campaigns.  They will be much happier long term if you would have helped them find skills they can sell for bitcoin.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: Raja_MBZ on April 08, 2016, 06:27:47 PM
Is it officially allowed here to have 4 accounts? :-\ This tutorial is only gonna increase number of useless posts in the forums.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: notlist3d on April 08, 2016, 08:44:42 PM
Is it officially allowed here to have 4 accounts? :-\ This tutorial is only gonna increase number of useless posts in the forums.

Yes it is allowed to have multiple accounts.  But having 4 accounts... I think is going to be hard on quality posts.   That is part of why I did not like what this guide is pushing.   But he did not read what I put in first post or did not care and just went to name calling as a "socialists".

If he would have went "find out their talents, that have value, and monetize that" in his words people are better long term then farming 4 accounts.  80 posts a day of quality ... you will be hard to find many that meet the quality part of that.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: Retpilai on April 08, 2016, 09:46:24 PM
It seems like a lot of people are against your idea here.




So am I, to be honest. It would be too obvious if you occupy the same accounts that magically run into each other to have conversations. If you absolutely need to do this, I suggest non similar usernames, VPN alternations, as well as different signature campaigns.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 09, 2016, 04:25:23 AM

I wish you would have made a guide to find "find out their talents, that have value, and monetize that" instead of trying to get new users to join site for signature campaigns.  They will be much happier long term if you would have helped them find skills they can sell for bitcoin.

You have gave me a good idea.

Sig campaign are overpriced anyway, i  think their payouts will drastically lower in the next months.

And then only those will earn bitcoin who create some value. Grunt work wont make anyone rich.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: notlist3d on April 09, 2016, 08:13:07 AM

I wish you would have made a guide to find "find out their talents, that have value, and monetize that" instead of trying to get new users to join site for signature campaigns.  They will be much happier long term if you would have helped them find skills they can sell for bitcoin.

You have gave me a good idea.

Sig campaign are overpriced anyway, i  think their payouts will drastically lower in the next months.

And then only those will earn bitcoin who create some value. Grunt work wont make anyone rich.

They already started to lower payouts a good bit back.  Part of it is due sadly to abuse like your recommend.  Using 4 accounts is tying to game the system on sig campaigns.    Imagine if everyone used 4 accounts instead of 1, the more popular this is the lower they pay will become (in most cases). I like some of your other guides but this one seems very short term, and not a long term help.

I would LOVE to see you do a guide on talents they can learn (coding, websites, art, etc).  Maybe throw a resource center in with free but good ways to learn different skills.  You could even go through services and rank them in amount needed and focus on most needed.  Lots of possible ways it could go.  I hope you move more to this as long term it's better for all.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: defined on April 09, 2016, 09:50:59 AM
Sig campaign are overpriced anyway, i  think their payouts will drastically lower in the next months.
Do you have any data on the revenue sig campaigns produce? In my opinion sig campaigns pay a lot for very little advertising. I can only assume they earn a lot more from the campaign.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 09, 2016, 10:30:52 AM
Sig campaign are overpriced anyway, i  think their payouts will drastically lower in the next months.
Do you have any data on the revenue sig campaigns produce? In my opinion sig campaigns pay a lot for very little advertising. I can only assume they earn a lot more from the campaign.

Well I tested it multiple times and you can compare them to other advertising.

A normal CPC is 10,000 satoshi, while the signatures pay way more than that for post, which has a likely conversion rate of 2%.

That means that the signature campaign CPC is 0.005 BTC which is ultra expensive, and not viable.


It will crash down to the 10k satoshi CPC level pretty soon.


I think the campaign itself is the ad, since those that wear the campaign can end up their customers, but i dont think the signature reader people are likely to.

That is why many casinos payout their campaigns in your gambling wallet, so you can gamble away your profit :D



You are wearing a yobit sig, which pays out in your yobit account, so you can trade away your profits into worthless shitcoins. Instead of cashing out.

So dont educate me.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: mundang on April 09, 2016, 11:59:39 AM
Thanks for this tutorial, i learned a lot on how to earn bitcoins in this forum, i have a friend who told me this site where i can earn bitcoin just by posting.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: vindicare on April 09, 2016, 12:45:36 PM
A person can do this "if" your too good in english and you are an expert in bitcoin because you need to be creative in every post you make.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: Digital_Lord on April 11, 2016, 05:50:39 AM
will you tell us which campaign paying 0.00091 per post for Sr members for writing daily 20 posts? I know only yobit allow 20 posts a day but payment is only 0.0003 per post.

and this is enough now.
just lock the thread and stopping being a shit.

I am going to report you and giving you a shit feedback because you are encouraging newbies to spam the forum with 4 or more accounts.

This is really non-sense.


@Theymous! take an Action man....   ??? ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: apoorvlathey on April 11, 2016, 05:54:20 AM
This method would encourage spam all over the forum !

I hardly manage to achieve 20 posts per day and its saying to make 80 !


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: deborb on April 11, 2016, 06:29:51 AM
Are there campaigns that i can apply to as newbie? Not that i think my posts will be usefull, but an extra buck for posting things i will post anyway is not bad i guess  :)


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: apoorvlathey on April 11, 2016, 06:40:39 AM
Are there campaigns that i can apply to as newbie? Not that i think my posts will be usefull, but an extra buck for posting things i will post anyway is not bad i guess  :)
There are currently two campaigns both run by the same user that accepts newbies.

777coin : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840124.0
Bitvest : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1237129.0


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: deborb on April 11, 2016, 07:36:19 AM
Are there campaigns that i can apply to as newbie? Not that i think my posts will be usefull, but an extra buck for posting things i will post anyway is not bad i guess  :)
There are currently two campaigns both run by the same user that accepts newbies.

777coin : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840124.0
Bitvest : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1237129.0
Thanks alot! Ill check them out right away!


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: NiceDev on April 11, 2016, 09:56:39 AM
This method would encourage spam all over the forum !

I hardly manage to achieve 20 posts per day and its saying to make 80 !


Yes I have to say I agree with it. Posting over 20 per day will make it difficult to keep the quality.


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 11, 2016, 11:22:09 AM
Would be great if OP can give more information such as short guide to buy accounts or take a loan.
I still see some newbie who don't know how to take a loan or got scammed when buy something with bitcoin.

Why should I do everything? I`m busting my ass here to help newbies.

And all I hear here are criticisms, how about you guys do something too!  >:(


Title: Re: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here!
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 11, 2016, 03:47:43 PM
I have been thinking about sig campaign guys and maybe the naysayers are right.

The sig campaign does have some short term benefits in bringing some greedy newbies into the forum but it doesnt have long term sustainability capacity.

I cannot believe people will have reliable full time jobs by just posting on a forum all day.



So the proverb:

"Teach a man to fish and he will be able too feed himself, and give a man a fish and he will always come to you to beg for more"

Is pretty correct.


So i will close this thread, because the long term negative outweights the short term positive. You can still read it though and point people to it, but it's just that it's not in my main focus from now on.

From now on my main tutorial will be this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1244332.0