Title: Lisk is not a decentralized app platform !!! Post by: themasknetwork on April 09, 2016, 08:40:24 AM Right now there are three networks that implement a turing complete language : Ethereum (www.ethereum.org), Lisk (www.lisk.io) and Masknetwork (www.masknetwork.com)
For Ethereum and MaskNetwork, things are easy : 1. The contract code is runned by all nodes and all nodes should reach the same conclusion after execution. 2. After a contract is run, a small fee is paid depending on the number of steps executed. 3. A copy of the contract code and storage is maintained by all nodes. In Lisk case : - The contract code is NOT executed by all nodes. - There is no fee paid depending on the code complexity. - A copy of contract plus additional data (storage) is not maintained on the mainchain. What i know : All Lisk applications run over sidechains where "The decentralized application developer has complete control over the sidechain." (https://lisk.io/features) You need a "third party" to execute your code - "By utilizing our extensive user base, you can quickly find 3rd party nodes to execute your decentralized application through servers " (www.lisk.io) What i don't know : Is Lisk a decentralized smart contract platform ?? And why do you need a 3rd party to execute your code ?? I was 100% sure that "3rd party" and "decentralized" are antonymes. My personal opinion is that Lisk is far from a dapp platform. What do you think ? Title: Re: Lisk is not a decentralized app platform !!! Post by: freshman777 on April 09, 2016, 09:00:18 AM For Ethereum and MaskNetwork, things are easy : 1. The contract code is runned by all nodes and all nodes should reach the same conclusion after execution. Good for Lisk, it will not crash under the enormous load. Title: Re: Lisk is not a decentralized app platform !!! Post by: zaph3t on April 09, 2016, 09:41:11 AM This is the first time i heard of MaskNetwork. Are you trying to create a FUD for the benefit of your Project?
By the way i have nothing against your project but I think each Coin has their own purpose and features. Title: Re: Lisk is not a decentralized app platform !!! Post by: themasknetwork on April 09, 2016, 11:24:45 AM This is the first time i heard of MaskNetwork. Are you trying to create a FUD for the benefit of your Project? By the way i have nothing against your project but I think each Coin has their own purpose and features. I was making a comparision between those three platforms and after digging lisk.io i reached the conclusion that we are not talking about a decentralized app project. You don't have to be a genius. I have just quoted what their sites states on the first page. You need 3rd party to run your "decentralized" applications. Because we are talking about a project that generated so much interest from community, i was 100% convinced that we are dealing with a classic decentralized platform where contracts are run in a secure way inside a Virtual Machine. I don't know why, but lately people are calling "smart contract" any new feature that has nothing to do with a turing complete language executed by each and every node of the network. Now, about the FUD. FUD means "Fear, uncertainty and doubt (often shortened to FUD) is a disinformation strategy used in sales, marketing, public relations, ....." There is nothing dubious in this phrase " By utilizing our extensive user base, you can quickly find 3rd party nodes to execute your decentralized application through servers all over the world in a truly decentralized manner." It's on the Lisk.io main page. I have just quoted. Title: Re: Lisk is not a decentralized app platform !!! Post by: LiskEnterprise on April 09, 2016, 01:02:35 PM Lisk seems the new popular kid on the block
Title: Re: Lisk is not a decentralized app platform !!! Post by: themasknetwork on April 09, 2016, 06:25:06 PM Lisk seems the new popular kid on the block It is the new kid on the block... Title: Re: Lisk is not a decentralized app platform !!! Post by: lordoliver on April 09, 2016, 08:46:48 PM Hello Mask network,
answer to my support messages before you try to advertise here and spread fud over other coins. I didn't get any email as a confirmation of my initial small investment. It looks more and more like a scam to me... I saw after investing: Your so-called decentralized network is written in PHP. PHP? Kidding me? Title: Re: Lisk is not a decentralized app platform !!! Post by: themasknetwork on April 10, 2016, 06:29:29 AM Hello Mask network, answer to my support messages before you try to advertise here and spread fud over other coins. I didn't get any email as a confirmation of my initial small investment. It looks more and more like a scam to me... I saw after investing: Your so-called decentralized network is written in PHP. PHP? Kidding me? I have sent you a PM. Web interface is written in PHP. The web interface is linked to the java node by a db server (mysql / oracle....). The core that maintains the network connectivity, encryption, virtual machine and so on is written in java and it's pretty big (over 50k lines of code) Web Ndode source code - https://github.com/masknetwork/web_node Java Node Source Code - https://github.com/masknetwork/java_node So, only the interface is php. You can't write a p2p network using PHP alone...:) Title: Re: Lisk is not a decentralized app platform !!! Post by: LiskEnterprise on April 10, 2016, 06:58:01 AM Ill jusp on the next Blockchain writen in CLojure
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