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#1. netmonk BCT Profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=353373
      Investment period = 12 months
      Amount invested = $ 437.78
      Interest paid monthly = $ 21.89 every 20th
      Principal maturity = April 20th, 2017
      Repayment will be made in BTC , equivalent to the USD amount above.
      Repayment address : https://blockchain.info/address/1CWFJe4WEeHJicxoFAMaCSeaN8nCZYTzCv
      1st payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx-index/7bc0c67f1bd697a29c98ab6316a96612e8c312139ba16d9ab52a98c1d4f8f07f
      2nd payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx/ca68fd8f69d1ddcb2445b5d2c9dc774fb4b71cb9be291ade4e227907eb762765
      3rd payment : https://blockchain.info/tx/053b62baf3d27610d6eaad339cf5ac6ffa64e50ad31c5d326525cdf6ee272006
      4th payment : https://blockchain.info/tx/44c1aabc6c1ec12ea4e27550c95680aad5722778b8a4634f4b9fee99229a8081
      5th payment : https://blockchain.info/tx/efcc2af5a1425c8762a6a0f4daa7db1a95d037348823341aef4be5bbf2d30a9b
      6th payment : https://blockchain.info/tx/ea77f221e4a0e348c6f14d75bbe9cdea2bd43ce2d231c6cb94b4ac58d80a0d0a


#2. NightEagle BCT Profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=883371
      Investment period = 12 months
      Amount invested = $ 17
      Interest paid monthly = $ 0.85 every 3rd
      Principal maturity = August 3rd, 2017
      Repayment will be made in BTC , equivalent to the USD amount above.
      Repayment address :  https://blockchain.info/address/19CvDJFQs6UkFNduDskJapzFs8UrKdzbCJ
      1st payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx/d84a341022350e94894fa6de550738e934b15d04542f7131bfe5086fb3c9cd33
      2nd payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx/e9f085ed7be6326439f782d018c272a3c339242d05805d18cc1c731869c23497
      3rd payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx/12b70a0785e6e14fb730f247120f8c782ad931bb40fc82653f8907e7a9f7218e

#3. angusmoo888 BCT Profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=895976
      Investment period = 12 months
      Amount invested = $ 415
      Interest paid monthly = $ 20.75 every 8th
      Principal maturity = September 8th, 2017
      Repayment will be made in BTC , equivalent to the USD amount above.
      Repayment address :  https://blockchain.info/address/1H1isckN4wHQcYn4GQk8qWAMvNo6oE5hxV
      1st payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx/e3dccfd4d7586912f57cd11d4797ed668824f8a4128bbafdf7a222befc0ed44c

#4. notnormals BCT Profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=851915
      Investment period = 12 months
      Amount invested = $ 9.46
      Interest paid monthly = $ 0.48 every 9th
      Principal maturity = September 9th, 2017
      Repayment will be made in BTC , equivalent to the USD amount above.
      Repayment address :  https://blockchain.info/address/18vEQRVGGcPyG2Haz1qJpTMSWrbxZGyNnh
      1st payment  :  https://blockchain.info/tx/ca66e4bc19fb9feccb6ce8abf72d3b34ccbc943168f4e494708434b81541ecd8

How much return do you expect from raising and selling the pigs?  It sounds like it is a very tight market and you already couldn't make a go of it once.  Now you want to pay 60% plus the original loan money over a 1 year period.  With that sort of interest rate, you are dooming the venture from the start.

Buy and sell piglets margin profit is 5 % to 10 % pure profit each , already cut transport costs and labor , ussualy this take 3 - 7 days.

Sow pregnant for 114 days and piglets ready to sell when aged 30 days to 36 days. 7 days after weaning, the mother would be ready to be mated again.So in one cycle i count 155 days.

BEP for one sow is if gave birth to 6 piglets in one cycle. Total price for 6 piglets will cover maintenance cost.
If one sow gave birth for more than 6 piglets, that's will be pure profit.
Normally,they gave birth 8 - 12 piglets, the average is 10

basic math,not so detail, if work normally

1 sow ( cost avg 0.5 BTC )
gave birth 10 ( the price 0.7 BTC )

pure profit will be 40 % in 155 days ( 4 piglets = 0.28 BTC )

in one years is 365 / 155 x 4 piglets = 9.4 piglets  :) ok we count 9 piglets or 90 %

so i think it's reasonable to offer maximum 5 % monthly interset.

as i said, this is a long term investment, 1 year period is a check point, and i hope when maturity, they will continue to invest again.

For information, this is just local pig farm run by me as individual, not a big farm.

Well it sounds like you know what you're doing but my fear would be that bitcoin value increases due to the halving and you would be unable to pay unless the pigs similarly increase in value.   Now if bitcoin value stays constant or goes down, you'll be fine but I am not expecting this to happen.  Perhaps it would be better for you to value it in your local currency but convert to bitcoin as a means of transfer.  In this way, fluctuations in bitcoin value wont kill the investment.
 

yes, you right about this, we will not know what the price of bitcoin next year.

I received your advice. but because we here come from world wide, I prefer to value bitcoin in USD. So this will make it safer than bitcoin fluctuation.

Thank you for your advise.

How and what condition to exit the business?

Let's say i invest 1btc today,

If i want to get it back in 6 months, how do we proceed ?

Also, is it possible to reinvest, instead of receiving monthly/weekly payment ?

12 months investment period is for stability, because i use the fund to farming in real world.
pull back the investment plan in the middle of the period would be destabilizing.

so for our common stability, the investment period is 12 months, and can not be withdrawn before maturity.

i'm sorry i forget to write this on the thread.

and for re invest

if you want to invest your interest,that's will count as new investment.

a separated one ?
or it's the initial one being resetted on time frame ? :)

I mean i invest 1btc (400usd)
after one month
which situation :
2 investments one of 400 11months remaining and one 20 12 months remaining
or one investment of 420 with 12 months remaining ?

because without reinvesting, the benefit will be 240$ for 400$ invested 12 months
with reinvesting 5% every month at the end of year the profit is ~318$ [400*(1+0.05)^12-400]


And another question : when the interest payment occur :
- at begining of each month ?
- at anniversary of day of entrance (for exemple i send you today 1btc, you will pay me every 19th of each months)?

investment #1 = $ 400 for 12 month = $ 20 interest every month

at first month you receive $ 20 interest and you decide to re invest.

so we count as new investment and will be like this :

investment #1 = $ 400 and 11 month remaining.
investment #2 = $ 20 and 12 month remaining.

so, you have 2 investment with the payment date is the same every month

the interest will be paid at the same date you make the investment every month.

Too bad, compound interest on weekly basis give better benefit ~368$ :) for 400$ invested

You should add all those information in the #1 post :) I think im not the only curious around ! :)

yeah  :) but compound interest too dangerous for long term.  :)

thank you, added to post #1

Where will the money that you use to pay the first week's interest payment come from?

buy and sell piglets is a fastest way to get fast profit, profit margin is 5% - 10 % each, this usually take 3 - 7 days process.
but this depend on luck, more can buy, the more profit.
the process like this :
i'm buying piglets from local people who only have 1 or 2 sow, collect piglets and sell them to bigger colector.

i think every work have his own risk. disease control is part of maintenance cost.
i'm focusing in breeding, not fattening. Fattening need more cost, because they need more feed.
well, whatever the job, if you like it, that will be a nice work  ;)

It's a nice business idea. Many people can see your example and try soemething like that. But for invest i think it's very risk. You can be a master animal-breeder, but there is always a chance to bankruptcy and i think this chance doesn't worth the income monthly rate...

Anyway good luck for you, i hope you create your pigs farm and make profit with it.

thank you for replying this thread.
every business have a chance of bankruptcy. that's like 99 % effort and 1 % lucky.
i'm just offering monthly income rate that i can cover for long term, but it all goes back to the type of investor whether he was a moderate or aggressive in investing.

good luck too to you buddy  :)

No offense against the OP but just chilling on your coins will give you a better ROI on your investment due to the halving both before and after. There it is.

Crosspost.  This is a ponzi.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1442262.msg14600833#msg14600833

well, thank you for the negatif trust,
but you can see, i never offer 180 % annualy
for monthly there is only 160 % plus principal or for weekly 165 % plus principal annualy.

but I understand, your job is to remind investors, and my job is to do what I have to offer to investors.
i'm just try to build my own farm,i'm not being deceitful, only time will tell.

no problem i got negative trust from you, that's an honor for me  :).

thank you  :)

You can't even do your own math correctly.   :-\

5% monthly is 1.05 to the power of 12 months

1.05 ^ 12 = 179.59% interest.

What?  You just took 1.05 and multiplied by 12?  You don't even understand how compound interest works... yet you offer it...

 Hold on Vod.  He said he was paying the interest monthly so in this case there is no compounding involved.

Please read at post #1, at Additional information, there is No Compounding.
Compounding is dangerous for me to run long term project. I already explain too when replying this thread.

He writes in post #1 that you can take your interest from month one and reinvest it.  That is compound interest.  Interest earned is now gaining it's own interest.

You cannot exit all after one year.

Now, if the OP had said you could NOT reinvest your interest, than that wouldn't be compound interest.  You would only be getting 160% return a year instead of 180% return.

Still very unsustainable and thus a ponzi.  If the OP could make that kind of return everyone would be lining up to invest in him.   ;)

Making the nature work for you can be a very profitable business.
You just have to like break your back, grab the food on the floor, and clean the shit of animals

I  have member of my family in the cow business, and i can tell you that they are not poor. But 99% of people prefer to commute in city, sit in front of computer for 8hours and watch tv and in return have low income.

The main point is that female are producing new pigs for you. And the pig demands is always high as it is basic food.
May be he will not be able to reimburse the initial investment in one year, may be we will have to wait more for being profitable given all the data.
But i least im please to see bitcoin used in real life economy and not only on speculation side.

Sometimes sustainable and unsustainable there are in a thin line. I will recalculate how much the total do i need to build my farm.
I will only raise funds as much as I needed. when it's reach, i will stop receiving investment.

Anyway, thank you Vod, please keep your eye to this thread, an honor if you keep reminding investors and fund managers.

Well if you think negative trust for trying to steal from others is a good thing, you are an idiot.   :-\

yes,it's a good thing, to motivate myself work in real world, and keep the trust of people who already support me here.

This is supposing a perfect pig farm all the time, what if a pig is sick ? a delivery is delayed ? climate condition change ?....
Too many factors you don't take in consideration.

sustains the living beings, there must always be death, illness, piglet death when birth, etc.

i don't describe this farm so perfect, there is always 1 % factor : lucky

if you read my plan above, i try to maintain the possibility of many factors like you said above.

 Thanks for the heads up.  I don't think that was written in the initial post.  Looks like OP is trying to incorporate the concerns as they are mentioned.

I don't think he has any clue of what he is doing.

He states over and over again there is no compounding, yet he is paying compound interest.   ???

The entire pig farm is just BS - there is no pig farm.  This is a simple ponzi to fool simple minds.

Are there enough piglet collectors to allow you to pay out for the first 155 days?

Why would they go through you?

How much of the money that has been invested already went to piglets and how much to breeding pigs?

How much money are you putting into this project?

bigger piglets collector will not go door to door to every house to buy only 1 - 5 piglets from local farmer, they buy in the number a lot, 20 and above. i act as middleman, going around, looking for local farmer that only have a few piglets, buy from them , and when the number enough, the bigger colecctor will take it.

I'm just starting again this farm,From my side, I borrowed money of $ 700, and I bought one sows and 10 piglets,and also for the pig food you can see in the picture.

Money from investor, I will use when it's confirmed, you can always check blockchain, because i will only use 1 address to receive investment.

Pics of piglets or it didn't happen.

post #1

scroll down  :)

Why do i invest ?

I always though that to make Bitcoin successfull, we have to shift it to real economy.
Since the begining it is just a financial instrument for a little happy few.

Everybody wants to see Bitcoin in the real world. but everybody keep just trading on market, instead of forcing the use in daily life.

This project, even very hazardous and with fragile communication is a real economy project producing value in daily life.
This is a good opportunity to help and fund, knowing that loss is potentially possible.

I had multiple communication with the OP in private, and so far so good, i entrust him to run his business and create value.

And if it's a ponzi(which i doubt), im the first to enter, so usually in ponzi scheme frist enter, first paid :D.

Would be nice from the OP to have a weekly reporting on his business, to keep track of it and show that we are talking about real things here and not candle on a chart.

Thank you for the opportunity that has been given to me.
I will be regularly updated, how my business situation in real world.

I'm re write the OP, to make it easy to read, old OP looks messy  :)

Thought so. I was going to say "Is this serious?!" But then you saved me from saying so.

You pretty much gave the reason (a damn good reason) why people here don't want to invest and probably shouldn't invest


Unless there are little to no investors then everyone gets scammed

Updated with youtube video.

So let m get this straight, you're making interest only payments to investors? Why not get a line of credit from a bank or lending institution? They probably won't like that:

A: You have no P.O.s
B. Your business plan is far from complete
C. You already failed at this once, which IMO is worse than no track record.

To get credit from a bank, i need collateral. I already do that, and only and got a little amount of bank loans as i write in OP, and not enough to rebuild the pigsty.
I do this as individuals, not corporations, so maybe my business plan not so good, but i try to explain as simple as i can in OP.
No problem you think I failed, I just tried to build my business.
Thank you.

OP, maybe if you posted more of your business plan, people could better understand what they are investing in.

Where is the pig farm?

What is your background?

Do you have the necessary permits/licenses/education?

What exactly would we be investing in?  The assets, I assume...so what are all the assets?

What are the costs, when do you expect to break even?

Do you own the land or lease?

Why are you looking here for investing and not from people who know about pig farms?

These are just some of the many questions that I can think of in just a few minutes.  I would consider investing, but you need to have a better business plan than just slapping a video and some pics of a pig and piglets.

thank you for your suggestion, i will update the OP, i'll try to re-write as better as i can.

Which country are you located in ? I'd like to give your pig farm a visit .I'm travelling these days so if incase I'm around ,I don't mind checking out if the piglets are taken good care of.

Indonesia, If you're here, or intend to come here, I am pleased to invite you to come visit me.

April 26th, 2016

Updated with budget and revenue plans

I saw in video that you already have some pigs and a builded structure (looks legit at first point). If nobody invests on your business you can grow it slowly anyway with the pigs that you already have.

Does each pig really costs 0.07 BTC? It looks a bit expensive for me...

that's piglet price.
currently, piglet price increase around 0.09 - 0.11 BTC each

sow  price around 0.5 - 0.6 BTC ( average weigth 100 kg + )

and thank you for watching my video :)

just little update, my sow already mated a few days ago.
hopefully pregnancy went smoothly.

1st payment to netmonk

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/7bc0c67f1bd697a29c98ab6316a96612e8c312139ba16d9ab52a98c1d4f8f07f

21.89 : 443.56 = 0.04935070

Thank you.

Thank you for the first payment,
Received it in my wallet yesterday :)
So far So good :)

Keep breed the pigs ! :))

See you next month. I hope everything goes as planned for you !

Looks like the price of each pig is high but only netmok receive a payment for this service.. and looks like you have also negative trust from vod..
Sorry but Looks like another type of ponzi scheme this kind of business..

only netmonk receive the payment, looks like he is the only one invested,

vod give me negative trust because i'm looking for investor with 5 % interest monthly,

i think you know what is ponzi definition  ;)
what i'm doing now in other word is similar to i'm borrow your money,to raising pig in real life, and i pay interest monthly. just like you borrow money from a bank, but in this case, i borrow money from individual.

Ahahah he got ya  ;D

This seems pretty shady. how are we supposed to trust that you have a pig farm? also, as mentioned by others, if the price of bitcoin goes up how will you pay back investors? i wouldn't trust OP.

Edit didnt notice the crosspost. will leave negetive feedback.

In fact bitcoin is just used to transfer value.
The processing is done in Dollars.

So the day i started to invest i sent one btc, which was arount 420 dollars.
each month i receive 5% of 420 dollars (~21Dollards) in BTC.
By end of one year of investement i will receive 420 dollars in btc. (may be 2 btc or 0.5 btc depend of the btc/dollars value at this time).

You understand now ?

why don't you try to read carefully the OP and the reply, this thread only 4 pages now, it only take 5 - 10 minutes to read.

So what are the news of the pig farm ?

Is it going well ?

sorry for silence during this time, and delay updates.

so far, it still works well.
1 sow already pregnant and the pregnant age around 37 days, with estimates the date piglet of birth August 24th - 27th.
in a few days i'll updates with pic and spreadsheet, and i'm sorry for delay the spreadsheet analysis of the cost of animal feed.

Don't be sorry,

the most important is that the adventure continues ! :) and everything goes well so far.

One question you can easily answer because this make my friends and coworkers laugh when i explained my little investment:
- what is the market of pork meat in Indonesia, while the country is mostly muslim ?

you right, in Indonesia is mostly muslim, but i live in Bali, island with 90% non muslim and pork meat is the main meat.

todays in bali, the price of adult live pig for meat prices is around IDR 24k  / kg ( USD 1.8 / kg ) and pork meat price around IDR 55k / kg ( USD 4.16 )
this price usually go up around 10 % when there is a Hindu religious ceremony.

Your reason for red trust is terrible and doesn't make me feel better at all. You not explaining my his anywhere nearly well enough. Do you think if you walked into a room of serious investors they would take you seriously? I doubt it.

i already explain as clear as i can, and until now, the reason for red trust is not proven.
but this is a free world, everyone is free to talk here.
np if you doubt it.

Nice loan :) I lost more than 60kusd in 3 years  farming pigs. Maiz and soya price raised a lot in the last 3 years.Self produced food can be a solution but more than 5 pigs is very hard to mantain. Food production to feed humans is becoming to be a big issue and pigs are in competitions with humans for food.

Building a stable is very expensive if you make reproduction(you will need 20years to recover the costs)
If you only do growing and fattening, you need very good genetic to be profitable, but the good genetic costs will kill your profit too.

Buying pigs from little farmers is even a worst idea as
If they are cheap, you end up with bad(thin, ill, bad genetic) pigs they will not put on weight and  slaughterhouse will not buy them.
If, they are good pigs, they are too expensive to make reselling profitable.

Sorry for my bad english, I will improve it asap

thank you for write your 1st BCT post here in my thread  :)

I'm sorry for your lost in farming pig. 2 years ago i'm also facing the same problem, pig feed too expensive and i close my farm.
and currently i'm trying to rebuild again with a small capital.

I agree with you, pig feed is the main key. That's why i use another way to get good feed without decrease the nutrition. If i use maiz and soya, i will not get any profit and will end in loss.

I'm using the rest of the processing tofu and bread skin peeled as a main pig food. These two ingredients are rich in protein and carbohydrates.
And i can buy it cheap. A bag of the rest processing tofu cost around USD 0.5 and enough to feed 1 sow in 1 days ( 2 times feed ). Bread skin peeled cost around USD 0.15 each kg, and each sow i feed them 2 kg each day. Averaging cost for 1 sow in a day is USD 0.8. So in 1 cycle 1 sow cost 155 x USD 0.8 = USD 124. That savings are quite a lot in food cost.

I choose in reproduction for long project, because typical of resident in my area. Usually every household will maintaining at least 2 piglets for fattening. When a great Hindu ceremony comes every 7 month, they sell adult pig, and buy again 2 piglets and always cycle like this. And thanks to our goverment on a policy that prohibits pigs from outside the island went into our island. This make price more stable.

Buying piglets from local farmer is a good choice in my area. Even though we in traditional farming, but the quality of piglets good enough, because the piglets also obtain health care from a veterinarian.

FYI, the farm that i'm running is still small, and i will build it slowly depending on my capital. Thanks to my single investor, netmonk, for the support.

;)eheh I registered here because of your post.

I love to farm animals ;)


Do you own a boar or you have to rent it or buy semen? I can't see it in your plan
Which race is your sow?
With 1btc from netmonk you bought 2 sow ? Do you have some updated picture?
Actually, to buy 1 sow I have to borrow 0.4btc right?

no, i have no boar, inefficient maintain a boar if have sow leass than 15 sows.
i don't buy semen, i use boar, using semen is not familiar in my area.

about the race, i think already mix from Landrace and Chester.
FYI, my farm is traditional farm, not a company farm, so the race is not so important.

Before i open this thread, i already buy sow and piglets from bank loan as i write in OP.
because so far i only have 1 investor, so the fund i use to food maintain and also buy and sell piglets to cover monthly interest.

you can see video and some pictures in OP, but i also update new picture here

bag of rest procesing tofu  :  http://imgur.com/4thyKiK

pregnant sow : http://imgur.com/G4PlY92

piglets :

http://imgur.com/FLlHLja

http://imgur.com/1Nzns9n

http://imgur.com/RKhuSdz

I hate to ask, but can you post a timestamp with those photos with your username and maybe get all the piglets together?

Tomorrow my second payement :)
Run run my little piglets

2nd payment to netmonk

https://blockchain.info/tx/ca68fd8f69d1ddcb2445b5d2c9dc774fb4b71cb9be291ade4e227907eb762765

21.89 : 766.28 = 0.02866659

Thank you.

here are picture with timestamp.

http://imgur.com/KZojEyR

http://imgur.com/uB0rnM1

http://imgur.com/FjMP3zl

How are the piggys doing? Can we see more pictures?

hi, the pigs is good and healthy
update with pict

http://imgur.com/llH4ARc

http://imgur.com/wOvtDFk

http://imgur.com/wAX6SJ4

i'm buy again 6 piglets

http://imgur.com/eBEU01f

Can we sponsor a pig to live a full and healthy natural life?

I will donate 0.03 btc if you will name one of the pigs Miss Crypto and post pictures of her adventures ;D

 ;D
I think my neighbor would be upset if i let the pig live natural and free outside the cage. They will destroy my neighbor plants.



 ;D
Nice idea, but I think it's a little bit difficult, because they are naughty and wild.
If i worn name tags "Miss Crypto" around their necks, they will eat the nametag in second  ;D

Cut the text out in paper, than use bio- and animal friendly paint to put it on their back (each side). Should stay on it.

I would also be interested to have my name on a pig for a year or so, and get pictures now and than.

How many sow's do you currently have?
How many sow's did already give birth?
And if so how many piglets did they give birth to?

If you buy a new Sow ready to mate, how long does after do they give birth? (average, because it's possible they need to mate more than once?).

If 6 piglets cover the cost of all food/medicine for 1 cycle it means every extra piglet will give 'profit' of $40-$50 each.


I got an idea with which you can probably grow your farm even quicker with less risk on your side.

An investor will buy you 1 Sow for $275
You will let the sow give birth to new piglets. You break even on costs with 6 piglets.
If the Sow gives birth to more than 6 piglets the extra revenue will go to the investor.

The investor has the right on the revenue of 3 full cycles.
The investor will break even once the Sow has given birth to 24 healty piglets. (6 each cycle to cover food and such, and 2 extra each cycle to get the initial investment back).
In best case this would be 3x 4 'profit' piglets of $45 each = $540 total return.

After these 3 cycles the Sow is fully yours and next cycles is full profit for you.
If for some reason the Sow doesn't give birth to 6 healthy piglets in one of the three cycles this won't be rolled over to the new cycle, in this case it's your 'risk' because you paid for the food. The investor on the other hand has less chance to break even because there is atleast 1 cycle with no extra piglets.


Just an idea, what do you think?

currently i only have 1 sow, i'm in rebuild process


not yet, my sow in pregnant. aged pregnant 69 days, approximate date of birth august 24th to 26th, 2016


At least need 14 - 30 days for the adaptation of the place and the food, they will ready to mate.
there is a possibility, but they rarely mate more than once.
In best case,average adaptation 15 days +one time mate + pregnancy 114 days = 129 days since buy.


Yes, price of each piglets in low season average $30 - $40 and in high season average $40 - $50


That's a good idea, but maybe investors will less interested, because they will get payment in more than 5 month each payment, but if goes well, in best case, they will get 100% profit in 17 month ( 70 % yearly )

In best case, 3 full cycle will need time 160 days x 3 + 15 days adaptation = 495 days ( around 17 month )

If an investor buy me Sow cost $275, that's mean i will cover food +medicine cost for 1st cycle, and next cycle will recover from birht of piglets.

The summarize :

I can accept and implement this idea. But investors should also consider, that they will wait long enough to receive payment.

I have just got really interested.
I would like to invest some of my money,into some pig breeder worker,who can me earn money,just
for getting him helped with funds.
Im not glad that it is ponzi,5 % montly for breeding pigs? lol... i dont even ask about anything.

Investors want return for his investment. So i think that's normal if investors receive interest for his investment.
Maybe because the word "investment" so they quick to judge this is a ponzi.
But if you take a look deep, this is similar to i'm borrow a money from someone to rebuild my farm, and i paying interest monthly, the same as borrowing money in the bank  ;)

3rd payment to netmonk

https://blockchain.info/tx/053b62baf3d27610d6eaad339cf5ac6ffa64e50ad31c5d326525cdf6ee272006

21.89 : 673.99 = 0.03247822

Thank you

1 simple question:
why would you pay us back if nothing would happen if you didn't?
why not share your personal information (name and adress) with your investors?

Thank you :)

 That is two questions.  I have one for you:
Why should he share his personal info?
The investor is getting paid and this guy is rearing pigs.  Seems legit.

Will be watching, I like the fact that you try to stand out, btw how much would 2BTC help in your op?

I don't understand what do you mean with first question, since english is not my main language.

About personal information, I will not be announced publicly, because it can be abused by unresponsible person.
But, for my investors, if they want,they are reserve the right to know who I am.
If you read all my post here, i think you've got information about me.



Thanks for watching.

In current price, 2 BTC worth around USD 1330.
That will be enough to buy 3 sow ready to mate and cover the food cost until they gave birth.
But for safety, because i have to pay interest, that will be good to buy 2 sow + cover the food, and use 30 % in buying piglets and use the profit to cover interest.

Great, this kind of investment runs slowly but I think it is not a scam. Though I am not familiar with that pig something. But the fact that I think the ideas and plans are accurate and as I can see you really are a Agriculturist. I was wondering if there are investors already investing? And how about the payment? You said it was annually? How are those investors who invested in the middle years of your operation and will not complete the 12 month cycle? Lastly, how long are you going to operate this kind of job ??

So far, i only have 1 investor, here is the detail and the payment :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1441952.msg14587794#msg14587794

Additional Information

12 months investment period is for stability, because i use the fund to farming in real world.
pull back the investment plan in the middle of the period would be destabilizing.
so for our common stability, the investment period is 12 months, and can not be withdrawn before maturity.
Please think carefully before investing.

how long are i'm going to operate this kind of job ?

practically i'm gonna do this job all my life,
i'm doing this job since i'm 8 years old, start with with help my father take care of this farm,
until my father handed to me to manage myself.
i grow up with this pig farm, until stop operated 2 yeras ago, because the food cost too expensive.
and now i'm try to rebuild again this pig farm.

I'm just getting back into BTC after an almost 3 year hiatus. Don't have much, but figure this is a worthwhile gamble. Fortunately what little I have didn't cost me much back in the day, so I won't be out much if I lose it all (1st rule of investing, don't risk more than you can afford to lose). Hopefully all goes well.

Hi,

I received an investment of 0.03 BTC is equivalent to $ 17 at August 3rd,3016 my local time.
Are you send ? because there is no PM.

If you send, please confirm, so i can put in the investors list.
And please provide the address for interest payments each month.

Ok, got your PM, and already update investors list in page 2

PA :

I start my 2nd project, Fell free to visit the thread here :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1572483.0

Thank you

Great, I see that many are investing now. It seems that it is a good investment. Sad to say I don't have BTC right now but I'm gonna invest soon I think. So, how is your pigs going ? Growing it isn't that hard and is not easy at the same time. Are they healthy? In 5-6 months, what are you seeing about them then? Is it worth investing for ?

Don't worry buddy, this is not a hurry project, You can invest anytime or when you feel good about my project  :)

My pigs still healthy today and growing. Thanks to God.
Because i feed growing pigs with alternative food, to increase the profit margin, it's need 7 to 8 months since birth to reach weight 100 kg +
So i think we will reach in 4 months, because now their age ~ 4 months. Growing pigs worth of investing if we growing at least 5 pigs.
Now i have 1 sow and 10 growing pigs.

I also have a plan to invest in farming when I earn enough bitcoin to finance it. The bread and butter of most of my relatives is farming so I'm interested with it also. I would have invested in this if I have extra bitcoin but then I don't have enough yet so good luck in your investment. I hope you earn from it so you can help more people.

Sorry for late reply, a little busy in real life.
Thank you, hope my pig farm well and grow bigger  ;D

4th payment to netmonk

 21.89 :  576.94 = 0.03794155

https://blockchain.info/tx/44c1aabc6c1ec12ea4e27550c95680aad5722778b8a4634f4b9fee99229a8081

Thank you

1st payment to NightEagle

0.85 : 578.26 = 0.00146992

https://blockchain.info/tx/d84a341022350e94894fa6de550738e934b15d04542f7131bfe5086fb3c9cd33

Thank you

Greetings from Malaysia.

I am also a farmer and I operate a bee farm. I am from Kota Tinggi, Mukim Kambau

Will be contacting you soon OP.

When you mentioned 26BTC. How much investment are you looking for in USD or IDR?

Thanks ;D

Please advise on your personal contact and location in Bali (PM me) as I want to invest US$400

Hi,

According to my budget plan,

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpD60shwRd-yNllkXg5OLL3DJCZQA8GtT4y5cLpqEYs/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=164451329

that's need around USD 11,340, but because hard to accumulate big number in one times, so i decide to build slowly according to the investment i reeceive.

Until now i only have 2 investors

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1441952.msg14587794#msg14587794

And i shoot you a PM

Just sent:

Transaction
Sep 7, 2016
Sent
0.0081243 BTC

Please acknowledge receipt of funds. After you acknowledge receipt, I will send another 0.66BTC

Confirmed, fund received.

https://blockchain.info/address/1EW4L38SWhLeBX5zPpWNpTJHYgU33eJWZ8

Sent you another 0.6512 BTC (US$410)

In total, investment will be $410 (8/9/16) + $5 (7/9/16) = USD$415

WOW PIG LOLOL GOOD LUCK INVESTMENT :P

seems unique xd

Confirmed.

Detail updated at post #2

Please provide your BTC address for repayment.

Thank you

Thank you, wish you all the best too  :)

This stuff actually works? What re results so far since I see some people re having doubts about the farm.

Yes, my pig farm really exist and works well. Raising pigs need time to making money.
Now i have 10 pig for fattening and 1 sow.

Fear and doubts is very normal in crypto or investment world. What I can do is build my pig farm well, make money, timely payment and maintain investor confidence.

I am just about to send you a small investment, I love the concept. Look after those pigs. :)

Thank you for your trust.
Your investment detail updated at post #2

Please provide your BTC address for repayment.
Thank you

Here is my address to receive the payment. Please update:

1H1isckN4wHQcYn4GQk8qWAMvNo6oE5hxV

Investment detail updated with repayment address. Thank you.

What do you do with your pigs? Who do you sell them to?

I live in an area that the majority of the population eat pork meat.
Adult pigs are sold to collectors, who regularly come to visit every house to buy a pig.

Confirmed that I received my 1st payment. Might look into investing more.

I agree with Vod.  This is a scam.

No matter you agree with anyone or claiming this scam.This is a free thread and not moderated.

But, thanks to God,
My pigfarm still running well, and the repayments to investors just in time, without a single delay.

5th payment to netmonk

 21.89 :  612.02 = 0.03576680

https://blockchain.info/tx/efcc2af5a1425c8762a6a0f4daa7db1a95d037348823341aef4be5bbf2d30a9b

Thank you

2nd payment to NightEagle

 0.85 :  615.15 = 0.00138177

https://blockchain.info/tx/e9f085ed7be6326439f782d018c272a3c339242d05805d18cc1c731869c23497

Thank you

1st payment to angusmoo888

 20.75 :  616.82 = 0.03364028 BTC

https://blockchain.info/tx/e3dccfd4d7586912f57cd11d4797ed668824f8a4128bbafdf7a222befc0ed44c

Thank you

1st payment to notnormals

 0.48 :  614.39 = 0.00078126 BTC

https://blockchain.info/tx/ca66e4bc19fb9feccb6ce8abf72d3b34ccbc943168f4e494708434b81541ecd8

Thank you

Can I visit your place physically and invest in local currency instead in BTC?

Friend, I curious why don't apply KUR (Kredit Usaha Rakyat) to local bank?

Sure, feel free to visit to my place, and invest in local currency will be good too, so i don't have to convert BTC to IDR

The main reason is , i don't have collateral to apply loan to local bank.
KUR for a low amount is free or sometimes free of collateral, but for higher or maximum amount, they required a collateral, even our business is real.

My first payment was received on time. :)

How about a picture of the pig farm to ease the minds of the people who think this is a scam?

Lol signature spamming at it's finest. He posted pictures of the pigs in the very first post. Are you kidding me? You couldn't even read the OP? Holy shit.

Not like I agree that anyone should invest here but he already posted his proof (if you can believe that he can pay you make 180% interest)

Yes, I'm following this thread, many suspects of a scam scheme, but until now, he is accomplishing with his word. Investors are receiving monthly income from him and his pig farm looks good, growing... Althought I didn't invest on it, I'm always reading the news about it.

Hey, iSimantri, post new pictures of your farm soon. I would like to see your progress, if possible.  :)

I'm sorry for delay, because my grandfather died and will be "ngaben" on October 23rd, 2016

6th payment to netmonk

 21.89 :  628.89 = 0.03480735

+ 0.00200000 for delay ompensation

https://blockchain.info/tx/ea77f221e4a0e348c6f14d75bbe9cdea2bd43ce2d231c6cb94b4ac58d80a0d0a

Thank you

I'm sorry for the slow update,

two days ago my grandfather died, and will be " ngaben" on October 23rd, 2016, so these days i a little bit busy, i will update my farm withpicture after 23rd.

I know there is a lot of scam accusing, but i'm trying to keep my farm on the track.

We are sorry to hear of your loss; please stay strong and don't worry about the photos I was just "sig spamming"/engaging in conversation whichever you see it as as.

Isn't everyone in Indonesia Muslim?  I thought Muslim's didn't eat pork?

I actually was under the impression that they didn't eat pork either, I thought it was against their religion or something and I have some muslim friends and they never eat pork either.  Guess some people just aren't that religious.

He said it some pages before:

"I live in an area that the majority of the population eat pork meat.
Adult pigs are sold to collectors, who regularly come to visit every house to buy a pig."

So, maybe they aren't muslims in the area.  :)

The official religions there are, Islam, Protestantism, Catholicism, Hinduism, Buddhism and Confucianism.

I read the whole journey of this piggery investment plan and I amaze how the Poster stand out against all criticism maybe because he knew what his doing.
In the end he got investor and he keep on paying them. I love investing my earned extra money from being publisher to this Investment as we are investing on real world with real risk but I don't have bitcoin right now.
I can offer to invest using webmoney or payza if you allow it. PM me.

 The investment is in US dollars but I think the Bitcoin added a covenience factor.

Ive  do  read  the  different reactions  of people  out here  regarding on this  pig farm  investment, some said  its a  total scam  but some say they got  being  payed  by the OP which is  somehow   quiet  confusing to  invest on  here  but i do really notice that  op been  posting   payment   on the  investors regardless  of those user who criticize  him just  like  the guy  who  posted above me  he has the same  observation too. For OP just want  to  know  on what time frame  does  payout  would  be given? Im quite  interested  on this  one.

The pigs farm is running, that is really real, but as OP said on the first post, it's not 100% safe, only 99%, because unexpected things can happen. Althought I believe this investiment is legit and we can earn some interest with it, but to earn good amounts, must invest a decent amount of BTC and unfortunelly I don't have it at this moment...

3rd payment to NightEagle

 0.85 :  725.74 = 0.00117121

https://blockchain.info/tx/12b70a0785e6e14fb730f247120f8c782ad931bb40fc82653f8907e7a9f7218e

Thank you

I'm sorry for late reply, because a little bit busy in real life for Ngaben and Nyekah ceremony.

Interest payout is monthly on the same date they make investment, and principal paid back after 1 year.

Like i said before, people are free to speak, to accusing, but my duty is only to make sure the farm goes well, so i make a profit, investors got profit, we both in profit. Thank you.

Hi, just want to ask  on how the  monthly  interest/profit   is  being  calculated? How  much  investment/amount of  money would be the  ideal to start off with this  kind  of  business?  Same as  other has observe  people  are   keeping  judging on you but  you do pay your  investors.

monthly interest rate is 5 % from principal investment, and no compounding.

Example :

If you invest 1 BTC , and the rate of 1 BTC = $ 700, so tour principal is $ 700 and the monthly interest is $ 35, every month and the interest payment made in BTC equivalent to $ 35.

To run a full size of my farm , need around USD 11k, the plan here :

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpD60shwRd-yNllkXg5OLL3DJCZQA8GtT4y5cLpqEYs/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=164451329

I already open this thread for more than 6 month, and thanks God, i can keep my promise to my investors.

I am really amazed with this  actually. This  kind of  investment here on  online  world  are possible, its really amazing  and the returns  on  your  investment for a  month  is  already  good enough. I;d  like to invest on this  piggery farm project.

After considering a few things, unfortunately, i can't accept webmoney or payza, but i can accept Paypal. Thank you

I am one of the investor - angusmoo888

I have not received payment for this month??

I have also not received so far this month, payments is 3 days late.

hello,

are you running away with my USD$415?

Looks this investiment isn't running so good as before, some investors complaining...  :(

If someone receive the payment, post here please.

I have sent him PMs and he did not reply. I have invested a total of $415!

My payment has still not arrived.

So many complains for pending payments it seems this has been turned into scam and more like OP also lost his interest to run a virtual pig farm, this business model is very similar to a ponzi scam, so better avoid to make investment into this project.

I like to believe in people, at least for a while. Maybe something has happened, maybe he can't use a computer, whatever reason.

By all means don't invest at the moment, but also wait on assuming its a scam.

Yes, maybe... At least he showed on the video a real pigs farm, but maybe it could be a farm of another person too... No guarantees here.

He was online today for the last time (11/12). If he didn't reply any of the investors, 99.9% chance of a scam.

still no reply regarding my invested amount of US$415 ???

no replies :o ???

I think this pig has now oinked its last oink. My investment was very small compared to yours, unfortunately it don't look good for any investors.

So am I right to conclude that this is a Ponzi scheme? Is it a right time for me to make a police report? ::)

quoting the first post in case OP deletes it.

 quoting list of investors in case of deletion.

If this guy was unable to pay the income for investors, make his farm grow and make profit at same time, he could at least come here to say it and give money back to investors. But his bahavior is unacceptable, until now, our conclusion is that he stolen all the money!

At least you have his face here on this video (caution, he can delete this video any moment!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nni-_V_0_qY

Call the indonesian law forces and denounce him.

You go right ahead. I wish you nothing but luck with that. Everyone knew this was a scam from the start. Just look at the interest rates he promised. Anyways you're all screwed. Next time don't be so greedy.

You guys deserved to lose your money if you have been an intelligent investors a pig farm is not possible to give you a monthly payment.   ;D
Glad this turned into scam already.

Lol ok let's not exactly go that far. I wouldn't blame the victim per se, but yes it was pretty obvious. The problem is people thought be cause he actually owned pigs that somehow the high rate of return was achievable. If I start a potato farm and tell you I'll give you 200% ROI in a month you'd be asking me how do you could start your own potato farm lol.

If it's too good to be true it most likely is. This is exactly that situation. The early investors got s few payments and then all of them got screwed. Don't incest if there's no way to get your money back. He can't give you a pig if you live on the other side of the world (not that you'd want one rofl).

That is not the only reason why people invested. He showed a video with a farm pig structure, some pictures also of the farm progress. It wasn't like any other Ponzi scheme with unreal promises and no proofs. 5% monthly can be real and he promised to pay the income relative to the investment cost in dollar. Example: if someone invested 1 Bitcoin when the BTC was in $600, he would pay $30 monthly until the end, doesn't matter the BTC price variations.

Offering 5% monthly (assuming simple interest) is the same as offering a 60% return on investment. If you think that's realistic then you're very naive. If I was running a legitimate business I would offer maybe 5%, 10%, or 15% interest and negotiate from there. I would never give someone 60% interest because I'm not a fool with my money.

Obviously the @op isn't either as he just made payments until he had enough 'invested' to run. Sure he has a pig farm. I have no doubt in my mind. But offering 60% return from the beggining is obviously too good to be true. Why not just go to a loan shark? Oh that's right, because when you don't pay back the loan shark you'll have your kneecaps broken.

Let this be a lesson to anyone reading. Even if it's a legitimate business that doesn't mean high returns are still possible. Who's to say he couldn't get a loan from a bank because he's 100k in debt already? Or he has terrible credit because he doesn't pay people back?

Still no words from OP so no doubt this have been turned into scam because he is not interested anymore to get more funds as he already had nice amount to do it for himself, that could be very possible reason why he is still out from the scene and people are still waiting to get their investment back.

still no reply from OP ???

Don't you believe someone can offer 5% interest monthly? It's not impossible. 60% YEARLY isn't an absurd amount.

So you 2.5% interest weekly is an absurd too, because on month it will be 10%! And I see some people offering this amount of interest weekly. OP could work the first year just to build his farm and to pay the investors (if he were a honest person), in the second year he could start manking profit for himself, because the investments were already paid.

Sorry, I think naivy is who thinks too small that can't believe 5% monthly interest is very possible and I would say reasonable...

You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again.

Well thats the point why you deserve to lose money but yet you still need to lose more cause instead of thinking logical, you are being a stubborn donkey lmao!

This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam.

When i see this thread on the past i could say that its a legitimate one because of the payout that he has given to its investors with proofs and also have videos. If its a ponzi then its really hard to detect it from the very start since the return on monthly basis is not just that high compare to those ponzi sites out there but as ive read OP is not already responding seems it turns to scam or any other reason why OP cant able to reply. Lets wait before we fully decide regarding on this matter.

Those payouts has been used to attract more investors to invest in his false pig farm business and i really think at very first that all he was stated here is only a lie and wants only to run a scam ponzi one,  and how could you afford to wait for more while its quitely long days for not responding to the allegation here? And thats totally the breaking point that he is scam and nothing else added color, thats why we should be carefull since surely another modus  will be made again by scammers.

Its already a scam since he didnt come back to explain such accusation upon him and also some DT already tagged negative trust so this means we could all conclude that hes a scammer and i feel sorry for those investors who fell on his ponzi scheme tactics. Running a pig farm investments seems new to me and i could say all scammer would really find a way to scam people no matter which way as long they could able to victimized people.

And why such people believes on him while its to shaddy to give some profits to their investors while theres no totally strong proof that he own a farm, and maybe those fake proof he shown are just stolen to anothet pig farm :) thats why at very first he's totally a scam and just want to run the ponzi game and look at now he'd fleed already and surely 100% that he will not comeback again.

My lastest payment is from 21 of october :
https://blockchain.info/tx/ea77f221e4a0e348c6f14d75bbe9cdea2bd43ce2d231c6cb94b4ac58d80a0d0a

I just love the way people became suddenly ponzy expert, saying afterward "look i was right"

Anyway for a ponzy it's a long one, as far as it runs since april to october (7 months).

I just wish it is not, and that everything has a reason.

This is how a ponzi works. The first few investors always get paid. The owner runs off after building some trust and gaining additional investors.

Well, everything always have a reason... But I wouldn't like to see this becoming a scam investment also, like all the investors, unfortunelly that is what everyone is seeing now. OP disappeared without trails, that is very strange, it's very normal people start accusing him to be a scammer.

Ponzies usually don't survive for so long time, you are right, but a very famous one survived for about 8 months, HashOcean.

So I was googling Simantri to find out what it means - it's some sort of government program that finished up in 2009.  I have a feeling that "pig farm" was dilapidated because the program didn't work and it wasn't actually owned by our friend.  Seems that he really doesn't know how to raise pigs in a frugal manner either.  I think he wasted all the investors money on frivolousness!

https://i.imgur.com/TgIOUd6.jpg
 
 Seriously, a simple number tattooed on the pigs lip to establish ownership would have sufficed.  I wonder how much those tats are worth?

 Okay, I realize that satire doesn't transfer well between cultures so... I'm joking about the tattoos and those are not his pigs (to the best of my knowledge).


 Elsartorio.com - was previously owned by iSimantri using the e-mail address temansuteman.gmail.com who also goes by AlitFX on social media.

 temansuteman@gmail.com: is also the email address that is associated with the google account owner (Mani Ta) where iSimantri posted his pig video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nni-_V_0_qY)

 Looks like Vod called another scam before it became apparent.

"Only invest what you can afford to loose" -- The best advice from my grand father !

A little sad to have been tricked this way, but no impact on my financial life.
I hope it's the same for all investors.

This rule should be use always on each time you make an investment on a particular site or business. Invest only on the amount you could able to loose because there are risk on every investment we made.For this pig farm investment and as ive read above it turns out to be scam already and i feel sad for those who believe on this kind of business or investment.

I think that this just proves how convincing someone may sound when they have just a little bit of pictures and have a senior member account on a forum. If he was a newbie even with pictures nobody would have bitten. Another reason why activity points shouldn't be the sole indicator of whether someone is trustworthy or not. Even senior members want to scam.

Thats why we should not invest on some matter without even proving that they have physical evidence and instead of investing on him why we cannot rise our own pig farm? Investing huge at him is just like suicide and not ideal one to continue for, and look what happen now, the people believes him are in vain and sorry for the loss on those past investor but i think we need to mov on from this bad instance since the OP ran away and thats the end of discussion and speculation.

Look what @op offered. Look what people got in return. Greediness led to a huge loss rather than a modest gain. No business can afford a 60% interest rate and if they can, they're in the money laundering business. Case in point though of course is this thread. It was (and still is) unrealistic and naive to think 5% a month is a modest return.

Well obviously a 60% yearly interest rate is not only a matter of money laundering. My wife is running a little business to sell western product on chinese market and i can say you that 100%  rate is happening often.

The major problem is scaling, and growing, to become official and start to pay tax which would lead to rate drop.

Iphone cost around 100$ to produce and is sold around 700$, is it money laundering ?
Go on kickstart and look at successful project benefit... 60% is quite low on most of project.

Given my own calculation, 5% monthly rate in pork business is not so much unrealistic. That is why i invested one btc (~475$ back in time). The amount i invested is quite realistic too, i didnt put hundred of thousand dollars.

The only point which could induce a undercover scam is the monthly payement.
At the begining, with only a few investors, how was he able to pay the 5% interest ? would have been a good question.

Anyway time to find new opportunity to invest my remaining bitcoin :) 

We are talking about animal business. Depending your area, your food supplies, your knowledge and will, you can make this profit (5%) or more monthly. It's not like lend money to banks and earn little profit over it, it's not passive income.

You are working with it, probably all day long, feeding the animals, looking if it's all ok with them.

Once you bought some animals, you don't need to buy more in the future, if you know how to take care them. They will give birth to more animals, and this way, multiplying your animal breeding.

The guy in this thread taking the money from investors would pay interest only for 1 year. The first year is time to build the farm, and not to make profit for himself. Again, he could use their earnings of first year just to pay investors.

You say it's impossible to pay these rates (5%) monthly to someone, but some banks are taking these rates when they lend money to farmers and another people trying to create their businesses. If they can pay the lend tax to banks, OP could pay the investors, his farm could generate enough income to pay everybody... But for some reason it didn't go well. We don't know why, but I'm sure it's not because he had to pay 5% monthly to investors.

If i had the place for exemple, i would do the same with dog (belgian sheperd Malinois).
I know some people selling 3000Euros each baby pure race ( between 3 to 6 babies per pregnancy).

They were able to buy an house after few years of breeding and selling such little dogs in Europe.

Thanks for scambusting this guy. I was thinking about investing.
You saved me from that.

THANK YOU!

This was an obvious ponzi from the jump; anyone saying that they will pay you 5% monthly no matter what from a damn pig farm is obviously a scammer.  From the investment stats it looks like people lost hundreds of dollars.  That is probably that guys yearly salary, so you guys should feel good about yourself the poor man can eat for a few months now.

People make business pitch all the time and offer good interest but yes 5% monthly is money the loan sharks make. But I do read that pigfarming is a billion dollar business so money can be made.

You should always read the latest posts before investing. If Vod didn't scam bust him earlier in the thread would you have invested without reading that he was proven to be a scammer a few weeks ago?

That's a good question. Probably not because I know something was fishy. But seeing vod there obviously save me time because I may have started to do some research on this project and that would have been a waste of time.

Eventhough there's no words of vods about that site actually we can determine that his investment platform is shaddy and easily to be pointed as ponzi, and if we truly have huge money well why people go fall for his scheme? Instead its truly good for their side to build their own pig farm, allthough its not easy to build but come to think for it the profits well be surely yoyrs rather than this one that turns already as scam.

But who do you get from a scam to a poniz? What steps did you take to get there?

New policy .Start a ponzi just say u r going to invest in some barber business run it for 4 months get trust. Get more investments continue running it for 2 more month just to wrap up things after 2 months stop paying ignore people who invested don't send any payments disappear from the forum. The people who suffer are those who trusted you and finally they blame themselves for investing in this shit and the person who is currently enjoying of course the scammer.

If you're prone to 'investing' in local shit stains that steal your money you're prone to investing it the armpit of the asshole of the internet which is ponzis. There's no reason for him to ever repay this. Who cares about his reputation? He certainly doesn't. The warning were all over but people still invested. They got too damn greedy and got shit on because of it. Maybe they learned their lesson or maybe they'll just invest in the next ponzi that you're cooking up there lol. Either way I don't have this much money to blow so I didn't invest donate.

I should start my own chicken farm.

That can be profitable. Animals businesses can be very profitable if you have pedigree animals that can reproduce a lot and produce quality eggs and meat. Buying a group of chicks and growing them can return you a good % monthly.

The BTC lenders could help you with it, but this Pig Farm guy destroyed the reputation of farmers trying to start this kind of business, unfortunelly... I think now it will be harder to find investors to start a farm business.  :(

This is by far the most absurd investment opportunity I've ever been proposed. I've stood here reading for a good 15 mins excel sheets, investment plans and a 1k word OP in full seriousness of a Pig Farm investment.
Time for bed.