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Title: Western Union carding
Post by: codehtcmail on April 21, 2016, 04:53:09 PM
Someone is trying to buy BTC from me and pay me with carded WU transfers, will this put me in trouble as a receiver?


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: n691309 on April 21, 2016, 05:13:02 PM
Someone is trying to buy BTC from me and pay me with carded WU transfers, will this put me in trouble as a receiver?

I think yes, you will be in trouble, i have read here that people who get those kind of funds they should return them to the nearest agent, so don't accept these kind of money, don't waste your time.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: Quickseller on April 21, 2016, 05:26:35 PM
Yes. If you knowingly receive stolen/carded funds then you are at least an accomplice of the crime the person carding the funds is committing.

I would suggest that you avoid this kind of trade. If you do receive a WU payment then you should ask that the sender pay in cash.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: codehtcmail on April 21, 2016, 06:46:30 PM
Thank you all for your honest answers I will avoid such transaction but it's not easy to tell if someone is carding or sending his hard earned money.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: gentlemand on April 24, 2016, 12:34:20 AM
The one time I had to send some money via western union with a card I pretty much had Visa turn up at my door in a taxi and give me a Chinese burn until they were sure who I was. I didn't realise it was much of a thing.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: KenR on April 24, 2016, 02:26:55 AM
Probably. It's better not to deal with them. Though the law would be against the user for using carded methods and not against you as can simply say you were unaware in your defence. But avoid all the trouble, ask him to recharge his PayPal and pay you with it.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: DARKCHANGE on April 24, 2016, 08:11:09 AM
Why are you even asking? Of course WU would ask you where the money comes from and will start investigations - primary against you as the receiver of stolen funds -. Do you think they're stupid and can't track transactions in their own system or just accept such fraudulent transactions as "loss" ;D


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: yenxz on April 24, 2016, 02:03:44 PM
Someone is trying to buy BTC from me and pay me with carded WU transfers, will this put me in trouble as a receiver?
not i dont think you will get problem,its just western union transafer,but its depending where the western union account come from,and if you get trouble,you will become witness,not a doer.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: wutard on May 02, 2017, 06:20:27 PM
Someone is trying to buy BTC from me and pay me with carded WU transfers, will this put me in trouble as a receiver?
not i dont think you will get problem,its just western union transafer,but its depending where the western union account come from,and if you get trouble,you will become witness,not a doer.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: TryAngle on May 02, 2017, 08:58:36 PM
This sounds like a scam to me. Stay away from any strange payment methods.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: BitMaxz on May 02, 2017, 09:04:18 PM
Someone is trying to buy BTC from me and pay me with carded WU transfers, will this put me in trouble as a receiver?
Not a good idea you will be arrested if they found some frauds like western union if its carding its illegal many people already arrested because of carding online.. many carder or people who are doing carding are arrested. you are not safe to use those carding without use anonymous ip or proxy.. since its a western union to receive it you need your personal location so you will be still not safe..


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: Sled on May 03, 2017, 04:01:04 AM
Someone is trying to buy BTC from me and pay me with carded WU transfers, will this put me in trouble as a receiver?
Don't trust those people who want to buy bitcoin from you and pay you by using a stolen card because that will put you in trouble and take note that he is paying with a stolen money and that is not bitcoin so there is a chance for you to get traced by the authorities because if the card holder will try to find where his money go then it will be a trouble because they can trace you.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: flower1024 on May 03, 2017, 04:12:02 AM
Thank you all for your honest answers I will avoid such transaction but it's not easy to tell if someone is carding or sending his hard earned money.


That's why while dealing with an unknown person online we shouldn't accept any payments which can be charged back. If you can't find out the source of the funds then better avoid dealing with the person. I had a bad experience when I brought some bitgold which seller claimed that he used his card long back and showed me the proof as well. So I took it because of some profit but next day itself bitgold charged back saying that fraudulent transaction. They stated that seller used a stolen card to buy that gold. After that, I stopped accepting any payments from credit cards or brought items from cards.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: mobnepal on May 03, 2017, 05:07:24 AM
I have also heard about many people getting legal trouble after accepting western union for their bitcoin. I have also gone through serious problem after receiving skrill for my bitcoin in localbitcoins. Don't know the source of those skrill fund but i got my verified skrill account blocked without any notice.

Just avoid any form of reversible payment methods for your bitcoin.  


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: iamTom123 on May 03, 2017, 09:54:26 AM
Someone is trying to buy BTC from me and pay me with carded WU transfers, will this put me in trouble as a receiver?
not i don't think you will get problem, its just western union transfer, but its depending where the western union account come from,and if you get trouble,you will become witness, not a doer.

This is my first time to hear of this situation. Now, am wondering why is Western Union not blocking such kind of transaction if they can easily detect the same...or does it mean that WU is finding hard to trace such an illegal act? It would be an injustice for a receiver who maybe unaware where is the source of the fund he is receiving.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: rico99 on May 07, 2019, 10:50:39 AM
Someone is trying to buy BTC from me and pay me with carded WU transfers, will this put me in trouble as a receiver?
not i don't think you will get problem, its just western union transfer, but its depending where the western union account come from,and if you get trouble,you will become witness, not a doer.

This is my first time to hear of this situation. Now, am wondering why is Western Union not blocking such kind of transaction if they can easily detect the same...or does it mean that WU is finding hard to trace such an illegal act? It would be an injustice for a receiver who maybe unaware where is the source of the fund he is receiving.

How does Western Union may know that this operation is not legal? Have too much deals like this https://fullzcvv.to/product/western-union/ (https://fullzcvv.to/product/western-union/) in the net, real or not ?


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: Ailmand on May 07, 2019, 07:19:50 PM
Sounds fishy but please try not to fall for this kind of trap. There are actually lots of payment method where you wouldn't get into trouble. I know someone who does WU carding and accepting money through it is a big risk especially if it involves your personal information and identity.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: Genemind on May 07, 2019, 07:29:56 PM
If you would only know how Western Union carding works.
This is another form of hacking where hackers usually steal the identity of the person that they're carding. It has been roaming around telegram because hackers could keep
their identity through that app. They couldn't use the entire money that they have gained through carding so they're trying to switch it with bitcoin. You should be aware and stay away from people who are offering that kind of payment method.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: Lanatsa on May 07, 2019, 07:41:46 PM
Someone is trying to buy BTC from me and pay me with carded WU transfers, will this put me in trouble as a receiver?
Not a good idea you will be arrested if they found some frauds like western union if its carding its illegal many people already arrested because of carding online.. many carder or people who are doing carding are arrested. you are not safe to use those carding without use anonymous ip or proxy.. since its a western union to receive it you need your personal location so you will be still not safe..
This is right thats why even if the said deal would really be good but i wont risk up yet it would really be hassle if you would be put up in possible trouble.
We might say that carder is legitimate but we cant still be assured.So its better to let it pass for now.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: legendster on May 08, 2019, 05:36:53 AM
Oh yes buddy! You could face legal ramifications and not only that, this is ethically a pretty shitty thing to allow. You might as well be tagged as a scammer for enabling a scammer this way. Legally, you'd be liable.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: futile-resistance on May 08, 2019, 09:48:11 AM
Someone is trying to buy BTC from me and pay me with carded WU transfers, will this put me in trouble as a receiver?
I think it depends on the amount you're about to receive, cause if it's too much, then your bank is likely to question where the money is coming from. I don't think you have any problem with WU themselves, they are just after doing their work which is getting the money transferred to your bank account. And another thing is whether the person you're selling to is trustworthy, so that you don't sell your coins and end up getting scammed without receiving anything at all.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: Mandarava on October 15, 2020, 03:48:30 PM
How would you be involved in this exchange ? If you are not 100 percent sure that your transaction will go smoothly, do not participate in it. This is the golden rule for situations like this! You should never follow the someone who is trying to change the rules of the game that you are used to. It usually ends up being drawn into some kind of murky scheme, as a result of which you become the one who is robbed of money. And that's where it ends. There will be no miracles.


Title: Re: Western Union carding
Post by: maxreish on October 15, 2020, 10:50:36 PM
Someone is trying to buy BTC from me and pay me with carded WU transfers, will this put me in trouble as a receiver?

Avoid such dirty deals. Whatever transactions that makes it not clean will still make you in a complicated situation even if you are just such a receiver. There are many other choices for buying and selling bitcoin. Choose other options than accepting payments in stolen cards.