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Title: Bitcoin statistics & computer learning (Weka | RapidMiner | KNIME)
Post by: denis4inet on May 01, 2016, 08:58:29 PM
Hey everyone! I have a task in university to create an system which will be analyse some data from bitcoin blockchain (because of bitcoin blockchain is related to my Master's thesis topic) using (Weka | rapidminer | knime | another computer learning/decision making technology) . I have installed knime and tried to sort out. But I  don't know which data from blockchain I can use for computer learning analyzing and how to export this data to a csv file.

1. I can write scrip which will export data from bitcoind via HTTP RPC API.
2. But I haven't any idea which data (transaction fees, transaction output amount, transaction input amount) I have to use for analyzing.

Could you make a suggestion? Thanks in advance.
Sorry if I have posted a question to incorrect forum/branch.


Title: Re: Bitcoin statistics & computer learning (Weka | RapidMiner | KNIME)
Post by: cjmoles on May 01, 2016, 11:44:19 PM
Hey everyone! I have a task in university to create an system which will be analyse some data from bitcoin blockchain (because of bitcoin blockchain is related to my Master's thesis topic) using (Weka | rapidminer | knime | another computer learning/decision making technology) . I have installed knime and tried to sort out. But I  don't know which data from blockchain I can use for computer learning analyzing and how to export this data to a csv file.

1. I can write scrip which will export data from bitcoind via HTTP RPC API.
2. But I haven't any idea which data (transaction fees, transaction output amount, transaction input amount) I have to use for analyzing.

Could you make a suggestion? Thanks in advance.
Sorry if I have posted a question to incorrect forum/branch.

I've got a suggestion:  Stop trying to analyze the blockchain and give everybody a little privacy!  I don't believe blockchain analysis is healthy for the bitcoin community.  Only bad things can come from it.  I don't think I'm the only one that feels that way here either.  Think about what you're asking.


Title: Re: Bitcoin statistics & computer learning (Weka | RapidMiner | KNIME)
Post by: BitFomo on May 01, 2016, 11:55:15 PM
Hey everyone! I have a task in university to create an system which will be analyse some data from bitcoin blockchain (because of bitcoin blockchain is related to my Master's thesis topic) using (Weka | rapidminer | knime | another computer learning/decision making technology) . I have installed knime and tried to sort out. But I  don't know which data from blockchain I can use for computer learning analyzing and how to export this data to a csv file.

1. I can write scrip which will export data from bitcoind via HTTP RPC API.
2. But I haven't any idea which data (transaction fees, transaction output amount, transaction input amount) I have to use for analyzing.

Could you make a suggestion? Thanks in advance.
Sorry if I have posted a question to incorrect forum/branch.

I've got a suggestion:  Stop trying to analyze the blockchain and give everybody a little privacy!  I don't believe blockchain analysis is healthy for the bitcoin community.  Only bad things can come from it.  I don't think I'm the only one that feels that way here either.  Think about what you're asking.

Huh? The purpose of a blockchain is so that it can be analyzed. How about you stop making useless comments to shill your signature.


Title: Re: Bitcoin statistics & computer learning (Weka | RapidMiner | KNIME)
Post by: cjmoles on May 02, 2016, 12:32:13 AM
Hey everyone! I have a task in university to create an system which will be analyse some data from bitcoin blockchain (because of bitcoin blockchain is related to my Master's thesis topic) using (Weka | rapidminer | knime | another computer learning/decision making technology) . I have installed knime and tried to sort out. But I  don't know which data from blockchain I can use for computer learning analyzing and how to export this data to a csv file.

1. I can write scrip which will export data from bitcoind via HTTP RPC API.
2. But I haven't any idea which data (transaction fees, transaction output amount, transaction input amount) I have to use for analyzing.

Could you make a suggestion? Thanks in advance.
Sorry if I have posted a question to incorrect forum/branch.

I've got a suggestion:  Stop trying to analyze the blockchain and give everybody a little privacy!  I don't believe blockchain analysis is healthy for the bitcoin community.  Only bad things can come from it.  I don't think I'm the only one that feels that way here either.  Think about what you're asking.

Huh? The purpose of a blockchain is so that it can be analyzed. How about you stop making useless comments to shill your signature.

The purpose of the blockchain is to maintain a trustless system which doesn't have to rely on third party interference.  It's purpose has nothing to do with analytics....In fact, blockchain analytics is detrimental to the idea of fungibility....all that needs to be known is contained within the ledger--anything else is just an invasion of privacy.  If you need help understanding that a little better, here's something you can read. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/blockchain-meets-big-data-realtime-analysis-1435183048


Title: Re: Bitcoin statistics & computer learning (Weka | RapidMiner | KNIME)
Post by: shorena on May 02, 2016, 10:08:44 AM
Hey everyone! I have a task in university to create an system which will be analyse some data from bitcoin blockchain (because of bitcoin blockchain is related to my Master's thesis topic) using (Weka | rapidminer | knime | another computer learning/decision making technology) . I have installed knime and tried to sort out. But I  don't know which data from blockchain I can use for computer learning analyzing and how to export this data to a csv file.

1. I can write scrip which will export data from bitcoind via HTTP RPC API.
2. But I haven't any idea which data (transaction fees, transaction output amount, transaction input amount) I have to use for analyzing.

Could you make a suggestion? Thanks in advance.
Sorry if I have posted a question to incorrect forum/branch.

Do you want us to tell you your goal? Because thats what it sounds like. If you didnt understand your task, ask the professor or whoever gave it to you.


Title: Re: Bitcoin statistics & computer learning (Weka | RapidMiner | KNIME)
Post by: denis4inet on May 02, 2016, 10:27:42 AM
I've got a suggestion:  Stop trying to analyze the blockchain and give everybody a little privacy!  I don't believe blockchain analysis is healthy for the bitcoin community.  Only bad things can come from it.  I don't think I'm the only one that feels that way here either.  Think about what you're asking.

I, too, for privacy :) But, how you plan solve the issue related to the block size (for example) without blockchain analyzing?

Do you want us to tell you your goal? Because thats what it sounds like. If you didnt understand your task, ask the professor or whoever gave it to you.

My professor doesn't know anything about bitcoin/blockchain :) He just teach decision making/computer learning. Students just have to come up the full task (related to decision making and to the M's topic) and solve it...


Title: Re: Bitcoin statistics & computer learning (Weka | RapidMiner | KNIME)
Post by: Quartx on May 02, 2016, 10:32:42 AM
Do you want us to tell you your goal? Because thats what it sounds like. If you didnt understand your task, ask the professor or whoever gave it to you.

My professor doesn't know anything about bitcoin/blockchain :) He just teach decision making/computer learning. Students just have to come up the full task (related to decision making and to the M's topic) and solve it...

So basically you need someone to tell you what to do, ie be your prof or be you and help you complete your task?

Read more about your task, analyse your task, what is your task? It cannot be as generic as asking someone to analyse the blockchain? You want to analyse the efficiency of the blockchain? How close to centralisation is the blockchain? Relationship of rich list? Transactions and chances of orphans? If your prof gave u such a generic task, it is up to you as a student to analyse it and come up with the best problem and best use of the blockchain to analyse something which would benefit your studies the most, are you into cryptos? How the POW from the blockchain provides integrity in which when a miner says he mines a block, no one elses can refute it as the block mined contains non repudiation material?

Whatever happened to students learning Computer Science nowadays, no more critical thinking skills i guess



Title: Re: Bitcoin statistics & computer learning (Weka | RapidMiner | KNIME)
Post by: denis4inet on May 02, 2016, 10:40:57 AM
Read more about your task, analyse your task, what is your task? It cannot be as generic as asking someone to analyse the blockchain? You want to analyse the efficiency of the blockchain? How close to centralisation is the blockchain? Relationship of rich list? Transactions and chances of orphans? If your prof gave u such a generic task, it is up to you as a student to analyse it and come up with the best problem and best use of the blockchain to analyse something which would benefit your studies the most, are you into cryptos? How the POW from the blockchain provides integrity in which when a miner says he mines a block, no one elses can refute it as the block mined contains non repudiation material?

Whatever happened to students learning Computer Science nowadays, no more critical thinking skills i guess

Thanks for ideas. I will think about it.