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Title: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: rat on May 02, 2016, 07:33:03 AM

http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/full-width/images/2016/05/articles/main/20160430_blp538.jpg

he's got the private keys. gavin is holding out until he can prove his correspondence.


http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863 (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863)


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: pawel7777 on May 02, 2016, 07:59:01 AM
That's big if it's true.

I don't get why would he prove it to BBC, Economist and GQ but not publicly, it doesn't end any speculation.
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"I really do not want to be the public face of anything," he said, expressing regret that he had been forced to reveal his identity.

Forced by who/what?


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: BitUsher on May 02, 2016, 08:07:50 AM
"he's got the private keys. "

he is refusing to sign a tx using block 9 keys and merely discovered a hash referencing Jean-Paul Sartre on block 9 which anyone could have made.

"He also says he can’t send any bitcoin because they are now owned by a trust. And he rejected the idea of having The Economist send him another text to sign as proof that he actually possesses these private keys, rather than simply being the first to publish a proof which was generated at some point in the past by somebody else. Either people believe him now—or they don’t, he says. “I’m not going to keep jumping through hoops.”"

It is trivial for him to publish a message and than sign a new tx without risk and without moving them out of a trust.

He is clearly a fraud.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Xialla on May 02, 2016, 08:09:35 AM
even it is true or not, it is again publicity for bitcoin, which is always good:P


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: bitbunnny on May 02, 2016, 08:10:44 AM
I've just heard the news on the radio.. Could this be true? It seems like he poped up out of nowhere. On.the other hand they've said thste he can prove everything. Anyway, intriging story.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: AGD on May 02, 2016, 08:12:25 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1457039.msg14728077#msg14728077

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Re: Satoshi is revealed and nobody here cares about this??
Today at 07:36:22 AM
The man behind the handle Satoshi Nakamoto has died years ago and since then somebody is desperately trying to make the people believe he is still alive and to take over his identity. That's why Craig doesn't show any legit proof. Btw. Mr. Wright, I don't believe in Jon Matonis, but I do believe in the mathematics  of GPG and Bitcoin. If you were in fact Satoshi Nakamoto, you would agree and act accordingly. The fact that you don't, is proof enough that you're lying. Fuck you.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: RidgyDidge on May 02, 2016, 08:13:49 AM
Australia for the win ! ;D


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: ecashpay123 on May 02, 2016, 08:16:53 AM
which type of private keys about bitcoin tell me.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: BitUsher on May 02, 2016, 08:17:09 AM
http://gavinandresen.ninja/satoshi

Gavin, is either lacking skepticism due to a cognitive bias (Craig Steven Wright just happens to be a big blocker*) or is willing to use this fraud to further his agenda. Either way, I lost even more respect for Gavin with this blog post.

* "Mr Wright says that if he could reinvent bitcoin, he would program in a steady increase of the block size. He also intends to publish mathematical proof that there is no trade-off between the mass adoption of the cryptocurrency and its remaining decentralised. Simulations on his supercomputer show, he says, that blocks could theoretically be as large as 340 gigabytes in a specialised bitcoin network shared by banks and large companies." http://www.economist.com/news/briefings/21698061-craig-steven-wright-claims-be-satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: 1Referee on May 02, 2016, 08:17:38 AM
"he's got the private keys. "

he is refusing to sign a tx using block 9 keys and merely discovered a hash referencing Jean-Paul Sartre on block 9 which anyone could have made.

"He also says he can’t send any bitcoin because they are now owned by a trust. And he rejected the idea of having The Economist send him another text to sign as proof that he actually possesses these private keys, rather than simply being the first to publish a proof which was generated at some point in the past by somebody else. Either people believe him now—or they don’t, he says. “I’m not going to keep jumping through hoops.”"

It is trivial for him to publish a message and than sign a new tx without risk and without moving them out of a trust.

He is clearly a fraud.

I agree, there is no proof he really owns the private keys to the coins of Satoshi unless he signs a message from these wallets. This dude is only horny for media attention, and it seems to work for him.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on May 02, 2016, 08:20:08 AM
Yes technology confirmed he is Craig Wright an australian, Reuters and BBC confirmed, what will go on now with the price of bitcoin, hopefully not a decrease in the near term.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: RealMalatesta on May 02, 2016, 08:22:26 AM
Once he signs a message "Craig is Satoshi" with the pubkey from Satoshi, I start to be convinced. But the death of his buddy coincidences with the disappearance of Satoshi, so I have the impression he's a piggy-backer....


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: calkob on May 02, 2016, 09:12:10 AM
even it is true or not, it is again publicity for bitcoin, which is always good:P

Your right any news is good news and this will be all over the world today.... ;D


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: pawel7777 on May 02, 2016, 09:47:09 AM
even it is true or not, it is again publicity for bitcoin, which is always good:P

Not always. If the story is true, that would mean that he holds around 1 mil of bitcoins, many considered those coins are 'lost'. If general public believes he's indeed SN, then he could crash the price just by saying (at any point) that he's considering selling all of his holding. Even if he never says that, the potential of him doing so have a very strong, negative impact on the price.

Edit: BTC down to $440, ETH on the rise.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: MedaR on May 02, 2016, 09:51:02 AM
I think for bitcoin is best that Satoshi remains mystery, and i thing all those talks and speculations about his identity now when we are approaching halving can only make damage. People know that he controls lots of coins..and what if..?


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Enotche on May 02, 2016, 09:54:36 AM
Jonas Schnelli: "Craig Wright once again fooled us. His todays „prove“ signature is just a signature from a tx back in 2009. "

https://de.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hfl7r/jonas_schnelli_craig_wright_once_again_fooled_us/


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Lauda on May 02, 2016, 09:55:14 AM
Stop opening the thread about this scammer. This is not Satoshi. Do your research before you open additional, useless threads.

https://i.imgur.com/JlXU2CA.png


Craig Wright's signature is worthless (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hflr3/craig_wrights_signature_is_worthless/)

Yes technology confirmed he is Craig Wright an australian, Reuters and BBC confirmed, what will go on now with the price of bitcoin, hopefully not a decrease in the near term.
Bullshit. Nothing was confirmed.

Gavin, is either lacking skepticism due to a cognitive bias (Craig Steven Wright just happens to be a big blocker*) or is willing to use this fraud to further his agenda. Either way, I lost even more respect for Gavin with this blog post.
Cognitive bias it is. There are even people that are part of his "cult" stating that if Gavin said it, that is proof enough.  ::)



Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Za1n on May 02, 2016, 09:59:10 AM
I think for bitcoin is best that Satoshi remains mystery, and i thing all those talks and speculations about his identity now when we are approaching halving can only make damage. People know that he controls lots of coins..and what if..?


I agree with this as well that part of the attraction of Bitcoin was its mysterious inventor. Hard to say if this is just another attempt by Craig to cash in on some publicity, but you would think if he really wanted to put this to rest he would sign a public message with early block keys as suggested.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Amph on May 02, 2016, 10:05:20 AM
there is no way anymore to prove at 100% that you are satoshi, even signing will not do it, because the wallet could have been stolen

therefore i'm not buying it no matter what it happen, satoshi's identity will never be revealed to the public


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Lethn on May 02, 2016, 10:06:48 AM
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"He also says he can’t send any bitcoin because they are now owned by a trust. And he rejected the idea of having The Economist send him another text to sign as proof that he actually possesses these private keys, rather than simply being the first to publish a proof which was generated at some point in the past by somebody else. Either people believe him now—or they don’t, he says. “I’m not going to keep jumping through hoops.”"

I'm highly skeptical as well, there are several falsely media announced and self-announced Satoshi Nakamoto's out there, unless he is going to 'jump through the hoops' no one, particularly me will believe him unless we see him sign stuff like the genesis block.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Divinespark on May 02, 2016, 10:07:14 AM
Even if he is Satoshi, what difference does it make now? Seems like a stuck-up douchebag to be honest


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Lethn on May 02, 2016, 10:08:08 AM
What I can't believe is even the BBC is hopping on the fucking bandwagon, just goes to show you how little these news journalists know about Bitcoin.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Wapinter on May 02, 2016, 10:18:02 AM
"he's got the private keys. "

he is refusing to sign a tx using block 9 keys and merely discovered a hash referencing Jean-Paul Sartre on block 9 which anyone could have made.

"He also says he can’t send any bitcoin because they are now owned by a trust. And he rejected the idea of having The Economist send him another text to sign as proof that he actually possesses these private keys, rather than simply being the first to publish a proof which was generated at some point in the past by somebody else. Either people believe him now—or they don’t, he says. “I’m not going to keep jumping through hoops.”"

It is trivial for him to publish a message and than sign a new tx without risk and without moving them out of a trust.

He is clearly a fraud.
If he is,its time real Satoshi came out and prove him wrong.In absence of any counter claims,there's no reason not to believe him.Do you think he can fool bbc,economist etc?


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: pawel7777 on May 02, 2016, 10:19:44 AM
What I can't believe is even the BBC is hopping on the fucking bandwagon, just goes to show you how little these news journalists know about Bitcoin.

I'm not surprised at all. Remember Dorian Nakamoto? Pretty much every major news site jumped on it despite zero evidence and DN himself denying it.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Lauda on May 02, 2016, 10:21:17 AM
In absence of any counter claims,there's no reason not to believe him.Do you think he can fool bbc,economist etc?
Are you for real? He has provided zero evidence even though he claims that he did, ergo he was trying to fool and manipulate people (which he has obviously succeeded). "Counter claims" are not needed when the provided evidence, which was used to build up the claim, was false. You can fool BBC, Economist and others quite easily; actually, almost as easily as he has fooled you.

What I can't believe is even the BBC is hopping on the fucking bandwagon, just goes to show you how little these news journalists know about Bitcoin.
Such media can be easily fooled, one day Bitcoin is dying and the next day it is a huge success.  ::)


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Bitcoiner_cph on May 02, 2016, 10:28:31 AM
For 10 seconds I thought this was real and that we (us bitcoiners) would be very busy today and the following time... but after just looking a little into this article, I still don’t see the proof?? And isn’t it the second time this man is in the media claiming that he is Satoshi Nakamoto?? Jesus, this man just want to be famous or sell something, how stupid are people and how stupid are journalists??


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: dothebeats on May 02, 2016, 10:34:50 AM
Just woke up to this news, too. Was shocked to read this part of the article:

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"Mr. Wright digitally signed messages using cryptographic keys created during the early days of Bitcoin’s development. The keys are inextricably linked to blocks of bitcoins known to have been created or mined by Satoshi Nakamoto."

..which could strongly prove his relation to, or identity of being Satoshi Nakamoto himself. Dafuq is happening?


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Lauda on May 02, 2016, 10:36:38 AM
..which could strongly prove his relation to, or identity of being Satoshi Nakamoto himself. Dafuq is happening?
No. The evidence is false. Read my previous post  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1457061.msg14729326#msg14729326)in the thread.

How stupid are people and how stupid are journalists??
I think that you have the answer to that question; very stupid.



OP it is time to edit the thread title as it is misleading.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: eyeknock on May 02, 2016, 10:39:54 AM
Let's all act like upset schoolgirls because we thought that Satoshi was 12ft tall, blue and living on the dark side of the moon  ;D

thats exactly what lot of people is doing, sadly...

people forget that all those news from BBC are just sensationalist, they are doing exactly what they want, to attract attention people, even if they are sharing shits about who is the real SN, they dont care about it, since they are getting what they want, again, the same history, people will never learn, first, proof it, later, claim it


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: dothebeats on May 02, 2016, 10:41:59 AM
..which could strongly prove his relation to, or identity of being Satoshi Nakamoto himself. Dafuq is happening?
No. The evidence is false. Read my previous post  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1457061.msg14729326#msg14729326)in the thread.
-snip-

Thanks for further reading for this topic. Was baffled for a couple of minutes for what in the name of bitcoin is happening. Seems like BBC and other media outlets don't have time to further investigate the topic.

Again, thanks for the clarification.

Oops and btw,

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"It (the signature) absolutely doesn't show that Wright is Satoshi, and it does very strongly imply that the purpose of the blog post was to deceive people."

So Satoshi will remain anonymous. :D


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: MedaR on May 02, 2016, 10:51:58 AM
This is convenient for medias because they love sensationalism, and they are not only one who enjoying this. People are reacting very fast and without thinking, so price decreasing is very possible, if this false news is not refuted on every place where are they appeared..


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: kosaet on May 02, 2016, 10:54:40 AM
Hello guys, first i read in bulgarian news before 10 min, was check google, really have in bbc this news http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863 (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863) , but i cannot believe on this. Australian...dont looks like real news.

P.S it is more likely that a Kangaroo wrote this code than this "businessman"  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: SFR10 on May 02, 2016, 11:01:19 AM
Unfortunately all medias want is to be first of every breaking news out there and "BBC, the Economist and GQ" are no different. They jump to conclusion without evaluating in a scale that would eliminates voids that some could use into pretending to be SN and can't believe that "Craig Wright" is the man were all wondering, even with "Gavin Andresen" blog post since nothing has been provided publicly in order to make those that have well understanding of BTCitcoin to evaluate it and has refused to do some other steps. He also tries to go with the humble style of not after the whole hype that started after the news break through but I ain't buying it.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: MedaR on May 02, 2016, 11:12:02 AM
And whole of a sudden we have explosion of new topics here about ending of bitcoin,
this is pathetic. I don't know what they thinking if they are new accounts that they cannot be banned as a person's..?
Few minutes before i had experience with one. And i believe he is nucked. Proper punishment for causing hysteria and spreading of fud.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: DimensionZ on May 02, 2016, 11:34:53 AM
Well Craig said in that BBC interview that other people have helped him with developing the technology so does that mean there was an international team behind Bitcoin and he was probably the main developer or the idea guy so to speak? So I guess the coins are not entirely his to spend as he pleases. But anyways if he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto this is huge!


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: Praxis on May 02, 2016, 11:36:19 AM
BS: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hflr3/craig_wrights_signature_is_worthless/


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: krach on May 02, 2016, 11:38:44 AM
There is plenty of doubts that he is really satoshi.
First of all the "organic" release of information.
Mainstream media Gavin and Jon Matonis´s blog magicly all release the info at the same time.
When have we seen that before?

http://themonetaryfuture.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/how-i-met-satoshi.html (http://themonetaryfuture.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/how-i-met-satoshi.html)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11609707 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11609707)
https://twitter.com/_jonasschnelli_/status/727053624615030784 (https://twitter.com/_jonasschnelli_/status/727053624615030784)
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/727078284345917441 (https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/727078284345917441)


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED!
Post by: poptok1 on May 02, 2016, 11:42:40 AM
BS: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hflr3/craig_wrights_signature_is_worthless/
Yeah probably BS but anyone have idea why he would be lying?
Is there any reward to gain from this? Is it about popularity or maybe some other business?

Why he just cant login here and prove his claims?