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This is a photograph published by CoinDesk today:
http://media.coindesk.com/2016/05/Screen-Shot-2016-05-02-at-6.31.32-PM-728x358.png

In this panel, the entire worth and contribution from the only women - is represented by her shoes.  While they are nice shoes, they clearly cut the only female out of the story and quite disrespectfully left a mere tiny slice of her representation. 

Shameful.  It is no wonder women don't feel welcome in this group.

I can tell that photo has been shopped.  Lol.  Cropped.    Why did they cut her out of there?

I wouldn't rush to judgement yet, for all we know the image was one they found online or through some other third-party. If someone can find the original photo at some point with evidence she was cropped out (not saying she wasn't but we have very circumstantial evidence) then I'd be more inclined to believe that CoinDesk is at fault.

I believe you all are under the mistaken belief that it was the woman that was invited to be on the panel. Where you went wrong in your logic is that is was actually her Shoes that were asked to be on the panel. The woman, was simply there to facilitate getting the Shoes there in a timely manner.

Also, you will notice there is a typo on the screen, it should have said Elizabeth Rossiello's Shoes.

I agree that it looks careless at the very least but I suspect that this was more a screw-up than conscious malice. Worthy of attention but not outrage I think

They published it.  Doesn't matter where it came from or how it was manipulated.  It is so clearly disrespectful to the lady with the shoes in photo to be excluded from the panel.

"At least women are represented by her shoes and feet, but there is ZERO representation for niggers, spics, gooks, zips, etc..."

That's what you sound like.

Why don't we remove political correctness from Bitcoin entirely?

Personally, I don't care what gender, religion, race, nationality, nor creed anyone has who adopts Bitcoin.

I've been trying to get women and men on-baord Bitcoin since 2012. No women that I know have been interested at all... until Bitcoin started gaining in value. That tells me all I need to know about women and Bitcoin. It's boring to them or to risky to even consider... until it becomes valuable and massively adopted so they risk little.

PS - You're a moron.

BitPesa is an African payment and trading platform and it's obvious that the hosts of this panel made it clear that this fine lady doesn't have any importance for the discussion by placing her on the very bottom of that list. I would like to point out that she is the CEO of BitPesa and this photo is taken from her Twitter. She is very good-looking btw  ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Chf2lk8UoAAgTGd.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH4r5csXAAA6N7g.jpg:large

No.  I never said anything like that you moron.  I think there are already way, way too many zips in Bitcoin.

One photo does not make them disrespectful towards women. I doubt if this was even done with the intent to be rude towards that lady. Some people are a little sensitive about small issues and things like this is hardly noticed, because it's rather an exception than a rule.

I challenge OP or whomever else, to find more examples of this to substantiate the claims being done here. ^hmmm^

It is only hardly noticed by sexist pigs who don't want women to participate.  I think it is a glaring announcement - not 'hardly noticed'.

I'd rather listen to her than some guy from Santander.

RawDog you are pissing on the wrong tree. I have a wife and daughter heavily involved with Bitcoin and if you browse through any of my previous posts on the topic, you would find that I aggressively support women participating in Bitcoin. My ultimate goal would rather be, not to make this a gender issue at all, and to concentrate on the stuff that really matters.

We have loads of ladies in our weekly meetups and they enjoy the same attention than every man there. We just avoid making issues of every little thing, and rather discuss Bitcoin matters. ^smile^  

I too think this to be a mistake while capturing the snap. If they could have thought in that manner they could have never published this image.

I am sure publisher is not intended to leave lady out, her name is still there.
I think OP read to much from an innocent photo. It is dangerous going down this route, and bring up African, Spanish, LGBT etc etc

Why make so much fuss about a photo? There are other views there. Maybe that is not just the good view that is taken. Or the camera man wants to focus on someone else. Or maybe his hands are shaky.  :P

Build a wall to stop her from trying to stick her legs in the picture.

Women do not use Bitcoin? Strange to hear. After all, women love shopping! Maybe there simply a lack of information in these matters.
As for my friends women, they say that simply do not understand all these vessels associated with cryptocurrency.

There is similar theme "How to motivate women to use Bitcoin?"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163902.0

i think you are overthinking the situation. this is more like a shitty photographer's fault than Coindest releasing this photo with the purpose of removing the woman out of the photo, and it doesn't look like a photoshopped picture either.

No matter how shitty the photographer is, the editor still has eyes and can see the woman is cut out. 

This is a cropped photo and the thread owner is trying to make sexist comments. Not welcome at all!!

Who said women don't use bitcoin? There are many but not necessarily we all need to know that.

keep calm and accumulate Bitcoin for your future. You don't need to be expert in everything.

Agree, the  OP may has his/her own agenda, way to much fuss about nothing.
As a matter of fact, there are other photoes, many photoes out there, why pick this one?

Why to assume that this can't be an error? CoinDesk is not the highly professional newspaper others are.

Who is that girl at all? Maybe only a moderator? Then it would not be needed to put her in the list of important bitcoin persons...

I sense looking for a problem where there be no problem. If women are not interested they are not interested,no need to balance the playing field when any one can grab bitcoin and women decided it was not for them. This need to make bitcoin a representation of society is a fools game and not something we should be encouraging unless you are wanting to go down the P.C route.

Definitely a poor choice in photo composition. I wouldn't be surprised if she was disappointed to see that photo was chosen. Bizarre as she is probably the one on the panel readers would most prefer to see.

One could argue, however, that she is more than adequately represented by her enormous name and company name on the wall while 4 of the others are missing in that respect.

Where you went wrong in your logic is that is was actually her Shoes that were asked to be on the panel. The woman, was simply there to facilitate getting the Shoes there in a timely manner.

What exactly is going on here with postnapping and why??

I think if someone decides to not investigate more into bitcoin because of a photo, then they're not worth the time.

Seriously, who cares?

Does it really matter? it's just a photo

Please let's stop with the feminist comments. I'm tired of hearing "Women can do this, women can do that".

I know women can do many things we men can. But crying because you did not appear in a stupid photo is too much for me.

Try to work in silence, we have been condemned to brutal work for ages and we're not talking about it.

I work 62 net hours a week to hear from a woman my work worth nothing because I am a man, and I earn $50-60 at the end of month for that.

They want to be treated equal, but not when it comes to fight and workload.

Sometimes, I feel like I should take my hands and start beating them at the street randomly.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Dude, you're the reason feminists exist :|

But seriously, if it was the guy on the left who got cut out, would anyone care? Exactly.

It matters to those being excluded.  Here was a good chance to improve the 'face' of bitcoin by including a woman.  Instead, coindesk cut out the only woman on stage and showed 5 guys instead.  I think OP has a point.

You are explaining the wrong things to them,
The easiest way to explain to a woman is quite simple
Have some BTC at hand ready, Then:
Have the woman select something she wants to buy on amazon,
Once she has selected desired item or items,
Then show her purse.io
Then buy the desired items at 15% discount, either by making her buy bitcoin which could be time consuming,
or the easier way you just pay with your bitcoin and she gives you cash.
If a woman see's she can save money she will be interested.
Woman (mostly) think a lot differently to men in regards to money and future etc.
You need to show people the here and now, not explain how they can cash out in future and make money.
Show women how to save on purse.io and how they can sell old stuff for free on openbazaar.

explaining about price of btc rising in future comes later, and is just a bonus, not everyone wants to be a trader.

May be you have a mistake, may be it is not original photo, if someone have the same photo than it is helpful for the judgement with evidence, but i believe it is by mistakenly happen, so it is not the fault of Coindesk.  

and about the photo
WHO FKKN CARES ?

its just a photo, keep all that PCBS away from bitcoin,
stop bringing it to bitcoin with Dupid comments,
this photo is the reason Blah blah blah

Maybe she just wasnt that important regardless of her sex WHO CARES
Maybe the person taking the photo had something blocking their view WHO CARES
Maybe the photgrapher or coindesk cropped it how they see fit WHO CARES
Maybe someone at coindesk does not like that person personally (regardless of sex) WHO CARES
Maybe she did not give coindesk her consent to use her in images WHO CARES

STOP PC in BTC, it does not belong here and everyone already knows how ridiculous PC is in the real world.

i would say one reason women are slow to adopt, is everyone seems to think people want to know about the details,
women and men, do not care about details, they care about uses,
show women how they can save money buying goods from amazon via purse.io and they will soon be interested,
dont bother explaining fk all about halving, price rising, faucets, none of that, as all that comes later.

I blame the photographer and the photo editor. The photographer should have taken more photo's of the panel to give the editor more options to chose from. If the editor decided to use a cropped photo, he or she should go look for something else, because that was definitely not the best option. 

You said multiple times, WHO CARES. I think the lady excluded in the photo cares and also the friends and family looking at that site. The readers should also care, because next time it could be them. Is this a gender issue? Nope. It is poor quality editing and poor photography.

you THINK the lady cares and her friends and family cares, YOU THINK.
again that means nothing as you are assuming that she cares, or assuming that she is looking to be in public light as much as possible.
As for readers caring because it could be them next, first get real, chances of any readers here being cropped in a photo coindesk publish is about the same odds that one of the readers here is SN, and again you would be assuming everyone wants to be in the public light.

It is not for us to assume this or that and get our knickers in a twist for nothing.
no need to make mountains out of mole hills as they say.
like i said no PCBS in BTC

i do agree with your very last statement though.

After googled she's name, i found this article from coindesk
http://www.coindesk.com/bitpesa-1-1-million-bitcoin-africa/
and i just knew that girl is a CEO of the african exchanger, so she has importance role in this industry, i think it was human error or something, but it looks unprofessional.

I am sure this is one of many pictures, and not the only picture for the meeting. Women are equally important, if not more important, for the growth of bitcoins; otherwise bitcoin will just be a silly game.

bitcoin is inclusive in nature, it's for everyone who wants it without interference. Lookin symbolically at the pic it seems to demonstrate exclusion which is not what bitcoin is about.

maybe she wanted to not get with the other? she could have asked for that, if she occupy another position, in comaprison with those other guys, it could make sense

Nice catch you got there. When I looked at the picture, I thought there is only men and no women - no offenses to the woman in the picture.

Only found out that there is woman when you mentioned the shoes. Well, I believe this is just a minor mistake and CoinDesk actually wanted to support women to use Bitcoin. I also believe there is a lot of pictures published on CoinDesk site containing women using Bitcoin in a nice way.

Let's not flame CoinDesk and start working on ways to make women more comfortable to use Bitcoin. :).

OP might right,coindesk should post better picture of this confrence,lets dont make any different between man and women in bitcoin,its better if coindesk take picture from CEO of bitpesa,and yes she was good looking,and perfect women becasue she know and expert about bitcoin ;D

I'm having trouble navigating through this thread as I see a lot of right wing nutters who's not known for caring about the human rights of other than white non-jewish males, but for the record:
 
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There will surely be other pictures of the entire panel together?  fair enough they cut her out and if the photo was to represent the entire panel then the full panel should have been included whether that be a man, woman or fish! you can see her name listed on the screen behind them but you can't see the other names.....

When i was read the thread than i was thinking may be it printed mistake, because you see it is meeting photo, so don't think that it is only one photo, why you think negative? be positive. otherwise you see the next photo it is complete photo, and she is looking very pretty.

Exactly, you are right, in the next photo, it is complete, so don't need to create a issue,, it is just a photo.
i can't understand why he said only woman slipper are here?it is not a planning. may be it is a photograph mistake.
 

Is that really the amount of money you receive for one month of working this amount of work hours? :O

You would be way better with bitcoin signature campaigns on this forum then...

I refuse to advertise things I do not support or recommend.

Sorry for the off-topic.

Hmmmm... judging from your reasoning here you might have to consider that she might be right.

you're being sensationalist here!   there were women represented at the conference -  (i was there, and saw they were well represented).  there were several talks with women on the panel.  One talk even had Majority women on the panel and the moderator actually called it out as a good conference for diversity.

its a fact of life in tech that women are under represented, but you're reading too much into that particular slide, as there were plenty of talks with women represented, and actually, i felt there we were going in the right direction as there were significantly more women at the conference this year than last year.

could coindesk have picked a better photo (or cropped this one better)?  probably.   but your point is unfounded and you're off base.

-- Jez

First of all, you don't judge situation and base your conclusion of 1 picture! This is just showing how ignorant and happy trigger we all are with our judgement.
Secondly men are more prominent in bitcoin world - that is a fact, it is not that women can't be part of it, they are just not as interested from what I could tell.
I talked to many women and men about bitcoin - and I can tell that in general women are more ignorant and reluctant to hear about it.

I did not experience the same thing though there are less woman in the space that are interested in it or are big in the scene. I think the reason simply is the way bitcoin came to live. A dry topic... mathematics... and what's the men-women-ratio in that areas? The big heads in there are mostly men too.

So I think it is plain stupid to demand equality where one should judge from knowledge and experience only. If a woman did not sit there even if she would have been better suited there than one of the mens then fine. That would be unequalitity. But taking taking in persons, regardless of some outer appearence, that are less experienced... why? To make it more colorful?

Imagine having a brain tumor and you want to have the best treatment. Though you get a way less capable doctor to do the task than you would have gotten. Simply because that doctor has some meaningless different appearence.

The photo is just crapped. No offend for woman, Woman are respected and they love bitcoins also

i don't think this is a serious problem,they put only "female shoe" on their photo,and you said coindesk make women dont want use bitcoin becasue his,its too serious. i think Elizabeth Rossiello as SEO of BitPesa put on last list because bitpesa is the smalest company.

This might be a reason why women don't visit coindesk!
No reason for women to not use bitcoin.

That woman looks hot!

I don't see why good-looking women should not use and contribute to Bitcoin as well. Personally I have no problem if they wear nice shoes, preferably high heels... :D A women being a possible mating target, does not exclude that she is also intelligent. I never understood this feminist dogma (maybe the simple reason is that most feminists look below average).

Women interested in bitcoin will use Bitcoin. They need no invitation or special treatment to do that.

ya.ya.yo!

arf!

what a load of blather and drivel.

trying to inject social engineering into Bitcoin - 'OH NOES, SEXIST AND THAT!!!'

and then the 'no offence' brigade start grovelling on here - dunno which is more pathetic...

So does Raw Dog suffer from white knight syndrome?
Odd how many people where pulled to this type of reasoning,thought we had some sharper tools in our forum.

What does looks have to do with anything to use bitcoin or promote it?
If it did I believe the majority of us would be banned from using it as we all know most of us look like pale golem looking trolls that have nothing better to do then waste away in front of a computer talking about woman instead of talking to them.  ;)

If I am not in this pic doesn't mean I should stop using bitcoin.I dont agree that women will simply ignore bitcoin because of this.A lot of women even didn't have noticed it

Please don't jump to premature conclusions just by extrapolating the small convenience sample you have to the whole Bitcoin community. Personally I'm talking to women every single day and it's not the talking that I enjoy most in their company...

But having a little Bitcoin topic to talk about once in a while in between clearly doubles the fun. :D

ya.ya.yo!

Talking to them at work does not count. :P They talk to you because they have too.  :-\
Small convenience sample?
Post a picture of yourself so we can be the judge if my conclusions are conclusive.  :D

Shame on OP