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Title: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Joebrann on May 05, 2016, 05:17:39 AM
I have a computer store near me some know it but this will be included world wide shipping is included in the US. I can grab cards and get overclocking coverage just walk in and get an exchange for it.

Right now I have the R9 390 8gb Gigabyte card with a 3 year overclock protection warranty they offer 2 years as well let me know if your interested if you are obviously you would have to send it to me to take back in to get the exchange.

Let me know what model ect and I'd give you the price again just gauging interest escrow as always but buyer pays shipping.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: VirosaGITS on May 05, 2016, 06:46:43 AM
I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: Joebrann on May 05, 2016, 06:53:21 AM
I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

Also some people in the US will know the store that I am talking about as they will have one near them.
So please don't post the store as most places don't have then and I am offering this as so called distributor.

Just do the same and be competitive. Also receipt will also be available as proof of it was paid for the only thing is the name will be hidden for the store as like I said not everyone has one and I don't want people musceling in.. :)


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: VirosaGITS on May 05, 2016, 07:06:30 AM
I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Quartx on May 05, 2016, 07:12:20 AM
What would be your shipping estimate for international shoppers?


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Joebrann on May 05, 2016, 09:00:57 AM
What would be your shipping estimate for international shoppers?
Depends on location there is a small premium for me having to do the leg work if I have to return it then re-ship it (This is included in the Full Price) except the re-shipment fees.

Let me know what your looking for where your at then I can throw you a cost most places should be fine to ship from the US.

If it saves money can add on packaging that it's broken or some sort like that so your duties would be less I know some places are like that.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: Joebrann on May 05, 2016, 09:03:56 AM
I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.
This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: ChanceCoats123 on May 05, 2016, 05:20:19 PM
I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.
This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: thedreamer on May 05, 2016, 09:09:30 PM
The store is going to let you get away with this?  ???

After a bunch of returns they will start to give you the stink eye..


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: Joebrann on May 06, 2016, 01:16:26 PM
I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.
This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.

You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

Also dreamer yea they do there own in house you pay a decent price for it but they have the much better return to the original manufacturer since they are bulk buying from them.

I buy a new card when they come out and return it in 30 days if I don't like it and I get a full refund. It's a great store and the only large computer store that I've ever seen. (Computer Store) just if anyone try's to say best buy lol..


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Joebrann on May 06, 2016, 01:25:14 PM
Also just to let you know this does not just go for one or 2 this could be for 100 if you wanted and all can just be walked in and swapped receipts and escrow as always..


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Quartx on May 06, 2016, 02:22:56 PM
What would your price be roughly for say shipping a GPU to Asia Pacific?


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: VirosaGITS on May 06, 2016, 04:20:02 PM
I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.
This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.

You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

Also dreamer yea they do there own in house you pay a decent price for it but they have the much better return to the original manufacturer since they are bulk buying from them.

I buy a new card when they come out and return it in 30 days if I don't like it and I get a full refund. It's a great store and the only large computer store that I've ever seen. (Computer Store) just if anyone try's to say best buy lol..

Maybe one of the companies has an issue with flashing the bios, but nope. Considering the GPU itself changes its clock a lot...

I *think* you are getting ripped off by gimmicks by that shop, OP.

I did not check the ToU of Gigabyte but i have not had a problem with them and i have lots of Gigabyte GPU. Meanwhile MSI and EVGA has no problem with it.

Here is EVGA FAQ;
"http://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=55"


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: ChanceCoats123 on May 06, 2016, 07:40:35 PM
You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

**snip**

Sorry to burst your bubble here, but unless you flash the BIOS to do your overclocking (which is a pretty obtuse way of doing it considering how many free overclocking/overvolting software tools are available), then they have no way to see what you've been doing. There are very few non-volatile memory chips on a graphics card, and they are all used for boot-up and initialization processes.

This is even more true when you consider what it is we're talking about happening. You're trying to say that in the micro-seconds prior to your card dying (in some way, be it gpu-die, memory-die, or power-supplying hardware related), the device just saves the previous settings and then kicks the bucket? I'm sorry, but paying for an "overclocking" warranty sounds to me like being taken for a ride. It might be quicker for you to walk in and swap the card out, but the speed of hardware replacement is all you're paying for.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: Joebrann on May 06, 2016, 08:47:02 PM
You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

**snip**

Sorry to burst your bubble here, but unless you flash the BIOS to do your overclocking (which is a pretty obtuse way of doing it considering how many free overclocking/overvolting software tools are available), then they have no way to see what you've been doing. There are very few non-volatile memory chips on a graphics card, and they are all used for boot-up and initialization processes.

This is even more true when you consider what it is we're talking about happening. You're trying to say that in the micro-seconds prior to your card dying (in some way, be it gpu-die, memory-die, or power-supplying hardware related), the device just saves the previous settings and then kicks the bucket? I'm sorry, but paying for an "overclocking" warranty sounds to me like being taken for a ride. It might be quicker for you to walk in and swap the card out, but the speed of hardware replacement is all you're paying for.
Wow ok so when you let's say Radeon settings and you overclock it to whatever let's say 1200/1600.

You have it set right so when you turn it off and turn it back on the settings are still the same correct it does not reset it on you so sorry to burst your bubble it is setup to save your previous settings.

I hate when people write things and yet do not know what they are talking about.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: Joebrann on May 06, 2016, 08:52:23 PM
I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.
This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.

You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

Also dreamer yea they do there own in house you pay a decent price for it but they have the much better return to the original manufacturer since they are bulk buying from them.

I buy a new card when they come out and return it in 30 days if I don't like it and I get a full refund. It's a great store and the only large computer store that I've ever seen. (Computer Store) just if anyone try's to say best buy lol..

Maybe one of the companies has an issue with flashing the bios, but nope. Considering the GPU itself changes its clock a lot...

I *think* you are getting ripped off by gimmicks by that shop, OP.

I did not check the ToU of Gigabyte but i have not had a problem with them and i have lots of Gigabyte GPU. Meanwhile MSI and EVGA has no problem with it.

Here is EVGA FAQ;
"http://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=55"
This says no physical damage as if you overclock certain thinks can melt witch my warranty covers all of that there is no limitations you can flash a new bios and try maxing it completely out and it can be replaced. They take them and they plug it in reading previous settings then look for and melted obvious parts that are destroyed.

Why not ask evga if you flash a new bios and you can't flash it back if it's covered. Also ask them if there are any melted parts if that's covered. Evga is a really good company and usually fixes most things but send 20 of them back at once see what happens.

I'm just speaking on past experiences.

Also hrs evgas link and read down bottom for what they will not cover just like I stated.

http://www.evga.com/support/warranty/graphics-cards/


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Joebrann on May 06, 2016, 09:04:10 PM
What would your price be roughly for say shipping a GPU to Asia Pacific?
I would need a better Idea of country and such but looks like around 50$ could be less just the average I punched in.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: VirosaGITS on May 06, 2016, 11:32:28 PM
I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.
This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.

You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

Also dreamer yea they do there own in house you pay a decent price for it but they have the much better return to the original manufacturer since they are bulk buying from them.

I buy a new card when they come out and return it in 30 days if I don't like it and I get a full refund. It's a great store and the only large computer store that I've ever seen. (Computer Store) just if anyone try's to say best buy lol..

Maybe one of the companies has an issue with flashing the bios, but nope. Considering the GPU itself changes its clock a lot...

I *think* you are getting ripped off by gimmicks by that shop, OP.

I did not check the ToU of Gigabyte but i have not had a problem with them and i have lots of Gigabyte GPU. Meanwhile MSI and EVGA has no problem with it.

Here is EVGA FAQ;
"http://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=55"
This says no physical damage as if you overclock certain thinks can melt witch my warranty covers all of that there is no limitations you can flash a new bios and try maxing it completely out and it can be replaced. They take them and they plug it in reading previous settings then look for and melted obvious parts that are destroyed.

Why not ask evga if you flash a new bios and you can't flash it back if it's covered. Also ask them if there are any melted parts if that's covered. Evga is a really good company and usually fixes most things but send 20 of them back at once see what happens.

I'm just speaking on past experiences.

Also hrs evgas link and read down bottom for what they will not cover just like I stated.

http://www.evga.com/support/warranty/graphics-cards/

VRM burning out is covered. Sometimes components fails while not overclocked you know? You seem to be pretty stubborn, did you miss the official EVGA stance about overclock that i linked you?

We're not talking about running the GPU at 1.75V and overclocking mem to 2250hz here. Overclock at stock voltage is A-OK. You would not be able to tell anyways.

I doubt they would check anyways but the only thing i could see is if they checked the modded bios and saw a crazy overvoltage or something.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: ChanceCoats123 on May 07, 2016, 12:47:02 AM
You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

**snip**

Sorry to burst your bubble here, but unless you flash the BIOS to do your overclocking (which is a pretty obtuse way of doing it considering how many free overclocking/overvolting software tools are available), then they have no way to see what you've been doing. There are very few non-volatile memory chips on a graphics card, and they are all used for boot-up and initialization processes.

This is even more true when you consider what it is we're talking about happening. You're trying to say that in the micro-seconds prior to your card dying (in some way, be it gpu-die, memory-die, or power-supplying hardware related), the device just saves the previous settings and then kicks the bucket? I'm sorry, but paying for an "overclocking" warranty sounds to me like being taken for a ride. It might be quicker for you to walk in and swap the card out, but the speed of hardware replacement is all you're paying for.
Wow ok so when you let's say Radeon settings and you overclock it to whatever let's say 1200/1600.

You have it set right so when you turn it off and turn it back on the settings are still the same correct it does not reset it on you so sorry to burst your bubble it is setup to save your previous settings.

I hate when people write things and yet do not know what they are talking about.

The clocks are the same when you boot back up because the overclocking tool sets them to your defined setting after you log in. If you set clocks using software and then pull the card out and put it in a different computer, the clocks are back to the stock clocks described in the card's BIOS. I'm getting my masters in computer engineering, so I actually do know what I'm talking about. Spend more than 3 minutes researching this topic and maybe, just maybe, you'll have the "Aha!" moment and realize you have no clue what you're talking about.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: thedreamer on May 07, 2016, 04:44:36 AM
The clocks are the same when you boot back up because the overclocking tool sets them to your defined setting after you log in. If you set clocks using software and then pull the card out and put it in a different computer, the clocks are back to the stock clocks described in the card's BIOS. I'm getting my masters in computer engineering, so I actually do know what I'm talking about. Spend more than 3 minutes researching this topic and maybe, just maybe, you'll have the "Aha!" moment and realize you have no clue what you're talking about.

Yeah this guy is right. Unless you modify the GPU settings in BIOS, after you overclock or whatever you do to the card, remove it and put it in a different PC, the cards uses the factory settings as the overclocks are set in the software on the previous PC and not saved into the GPU.

All my cards I'ever worked with or used are / were like this.

Cool about your store letting you swap with no questions asked. I know the store you're talking about (I think) .
Good luck with your endevour.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest.
Post by: Joebrann on May 07, 2016, 04:52:34 AM
You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

**snip**

Sorry to burst your bubble here, but unless you flash the BIOS to do your overclocking (which is a pretty obtuse way of doing it considering how many free overclocking/overvolting software tools are available), then they have no way to see what you've been doing. There are very few non-volatile memory chips on a graphics card, and they are all used for boot-up and initialization processes.

This is even more true when you consider what it is we're talking about happening. You're trying to say that in the micro-seconds prior to your card dying (in some way, be it gpu-die, memory-die, or power-supplying hardware related), the device just saves the previous settings and then kicks the bucket? I'm sorry, but paying for an "overclocking" warranty sounds to me like being taken for a ride. It might be quicker for you to walk in and swap the card out, but the speed of hardware replacement is all you're paying for.
Wow ok so when you let's say Radeon settings and you overclock it to whatever let's say 1200/1600.

You have it set right so when you turn it off and turn it back on the settings are still the same correct it does not reset it on you so sorry to burst your bubble it is setup to save your previous settings.

I hate when people write things and yet do not know what they are talking about.

The clocks are the same when you boot back up because the overclocking tool sets them to your defined setting after you log in. If you set clocks using software and then pull the card out and put it in a different computer, the clocks are back to the stock clocks described in the card's BIOS. I'm getting my masters in computer engineering, so I actually do know what I'm talking about. Spend more than 3 minutes researching this topic and maybe, just maybe, you'll have the "Aha!" moment and realize you have no clue what you're talking about.
Lol, sure I guess your right then since your going to school for it. Also I'm and glad to know that as soon as I turn my computer on yes it is still hooked up to the same computer but as the bios screen is still on and no user is even able to log in and you here your fan up to max like you had it setup before it went up it doesn't start up as stock it starts up where it was setup as previously hmm weird.

Also just like evga's official link then I through on here states any 3rd party application you use to overclock or whatever voids there warranty that's another hmm I don't know what I am talking about you must be right.

Like I stated before I am offering this to be fully replaced unless there is actually physical modding that was done water humidity any electrical damage ect will be replaced. You keep saying there is no problem rma'ing there will be no problem but there warranty states otherwise.

So like I said you don't have to want what I am offering but you are stating wrong facts against what the manufacturer warranty are saying on there official rules and terms and not a so called conversation from a person to a representative that doesn't make the decision or anything on if your RMA is approved.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Joebrann on May 07, 2016, 04:59:39 AM
Also remember if your saying that there is no way to save information then how do they lock the GPU to only overclock so much unless you flash the bios? That information is saved on the GPU just saying last thing I'll say about it.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: ChanceCoats123 on May 07, 2016, 05:16:04 PM
Look Joe. I'm not in here trying to shit post and just screw with you. I honestly believe that you're wasting money by paying for that service. That said, you're free to offer it to whomever will pay you for it. You are 100% correct when you say that EVGA (and most other manufucturers) do not cover overclocking. But since I've already shown there is no way for them to track your card usage, it's not a question of whether they will RMA it for you, it's a moral question of whether you should RMA the card that you just killed while violating the warranty.

Also, I've noticed how your arguments against mine are basically anecdotes about things you think are happening inside your computer. While that's awesome, I really suggest you do some research about the GPU boot process. Everyone's fan turns on to max when they turn their computer on because before the GPU bios load, there is no known fan profile (hasn't been loaded yet). In order to protect the card, it defaults to full steam ahead. Also, if you think a graphics card company would spend millions (or billions) of dollars in research, design, and implementation to add hardware to their products so they could catch the 1-in-10,000 user who kills their card with overclocking, then you need to seriously re-read that last sentence.

Anyway, I'm not going to post in here any more as I've said my peace. Best of luck selling your overclocking warranty service.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: VirosaGITS on May 07, 2016, 07:48:11 PM
Look Joe. I'm not in here trying to shit post and just screw with you. I honestly believe that you're wasting money by paying for that service. That said, you're free to offer it to whomever will pay you for it. You are 100% correct when you say that EVGA (and most other manufucturers) do not cover overclocking. But since I've already shown there is no way for them to track your card usage, it's not a question of whether they will RMA it for you, it's a moral question of whether you should RMA the card that you just killed while violating the warranty.

Also, I've noticed how your arguments against mine are basically anecdotes about things you think are happening inside your computer. While that's awesome, I really suggest you do some research about the GPU boot process. Everyone's fan turns on to max when they turn their computer on because before the GPU bios load, there is no known fan profile (hasn't been loaded yet). In order to protect the card, it defaults to full steam ahead. Also, if you think a graphics card company would spend millions (or billions) of dollars in research, design, and implementation to add hardware to their products so they could catch the 1-in-10,000 user who kills their card with overclocking, then you need to seriously re-read that last sentence.

Anyway, I'm not going to post in here any more as I've said my peace. Best of luck selling your overclocking warranty service.

http://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=55

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Overclocking our products does not void the warranty...

OP is just confused, he think physical damage mean components frying. Physical damage is taking a bat to it, or dropping it for example. OP also does not know what he is taking about.

You're right about the software/hardware part but now you're subscribing to OP's nonsense in an attempt to argument with him. At least keep it to fact if you're going to keep up with him.

Also remember if your saying that there is no way to save information then how do they lock the GPU to only overclock so much unless you flash the bios? That information is saved on the GPU just saying last thing I'll say about it.

When you enter logins, the OS (windows i guess here) is already running, otherwise you would not be able to login in the first place. Just saying. Its not saved on the GPU at all. You need to flash the BIOS to write information on the GPU.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Joebrann on May 07, 2016, 11:00:55 PM
Ok, thanks guys for your input. 😁 much appreciated.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: thedreamer on May 07, 2016, 11:06:15 PM
Also remember if your saying that there is no way to save information then how do they lock the GPU to only overclock so much unless you flash the bios? That information is saved on the GPU just saying last thing I'll say about it.

Joe, bud. There is a difference between the BIoS / factory set settings in NVRAM vs the software/driver controlled settings when you make changes to it on your PC. Changes from the PC (Unless you use some wierd software to re-flash the BIoS) do NOT follow the card.
Meaning if you take an overclocked card out, put it into PC2, the settings go back to factory stock.

This is how they ALL work..

If anything though, this works in your favor in regards to getting warranty service down on them, so I'm not sure why the back and forth.  8)


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Joebrann on May 08, 2016, 05:33:50 AM
Also remember if your saying that there is no way to save information then how do they lock the GPU to only overclock so much unless you flash the bios? That information is saved on the GPU just saying last thing I'll say about it.

Joe, bud. There is a difference between the BIoS / factory set settings in NVRAM vs the software/driver controlled settings when you make changes to it on your PC. Changes from the PC (Unless you use some wierd software to re-flash the BIoS) do NOT follow the card.
Meaning if you take an overclocked card out, put it into PC2, the settings go back to factory stock.

This is how they ALL work..

If anything though, this works in your favor in regards to getting warranty service down on them, so I'm not sure why the back and forth.  8)
I know what your saying.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Joebrann on May 11, 2016, 12:55:24 AM
Just for a little bump this warranty covers most broken pieces as long as you didn't dismantle yourself. Not going to go into what manufacturer's will cover or not that is up to you to look at there official terms and or to believe a so-called message between a person and a representative.

Most countries I can sell to you pay shipping also if anyone wants to know if this is true we will setup an escrow for them to verify as I will give them the info of who/where I'm going through.

Also this warranty is fully transferable even tho it's in house but that just ensures that there can never/or will be a problem.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: VirosaGITS on May 11, 2016, 05:00:34 PM
Just for a little bump this warranty covers most broken pieces as long as you didn't dismantle yourself. Not going to go into what manufacturer's will cover or not that is up to you to look at there official terms and or to believe a so-called message between a person and a representative.

Most countries I can sell to you pay shipping also if anyone wants to know if this is true we will setup an escrow for them to verify as I will give them the info of who/where I'm going through.

Also this warranty is fully transferable even tho it's in house but that just ensures that there can never/or will be a problem.

Yes... the EVGA's official FAQ is merely a"so called message".

Its not a message its the official FAQ.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Joebrann on May 12, 2016, 08:53:16 AM
Just for a little bump this warranty covers most broken pieces as long as you didn't dismantle yourself. Not going to go into what manufacturer's will cover or not that is up to you to look at there official terms and or to believe a so-called message between a person and a representative.

Most countries I can sell to you pay shipping also if anyone wants to know if this is true we will setup an escrow for them to verify as I will give them the info of who/where I'm going through.

Also this warranty is fully transferable even tho it's in house but that just ensures that there can never/or will be a problem.

Yes... the EVGA's official FAQ is merely a"so called message".

Its not a message its the official FAQ.
Lol, please stop spamming I added the official link that clearly states any 3rd party clients to adjust the video card voids warranty and any damages to the card voids the warranty as well.

Thanks


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: VirosaGITS on May 12, 2016, 05:36:21 PM
Just for a little bump this warranty covers most broken pieces as long as you didn't dismantle yourself. Not going to go into what manufacturer's will cover or not that is up to you to look at there official terms and or to believe a so-called message between a person and a representative.

Most countries I can sell to you pay shipping also if anyone wants to know if this is true we will setup an escrow for them to verify as I will give them the info of who/where I'm going through.

Also this warranty is fully transferable even tho it's in house but that just ensures that there can never/or will be a problem.

Yes... the EVGA's official FAQ is merely a"so called message".

Its not a message its the official FAQ.
Lol, please stop spamming I added the official link that clearly states any 3rd party clients to adjust the video card voids warranty and any damages to the card voids the warranty as well.

Thanks

You know the GPU come with their own overclocking software. Right?
Thats not 3rd party. And physical damage is physical damage, not components burning out due to heat. Components burning out = something. Physical damage = something else.

You're in the computer hardware section anyways, not the service section (You're trying to offer a service, from a gimmick/ripoff shop to people). So if you actually want to go through with this, you're still posting in the wrong section.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Joebrann on May 13, 2016, 03:54:05 AM
Here you are wrong again, I am selling the miner as well so I'm confused with just this service based thing you keep saying lol. Also I'm preety sure most people use 3rd party software for overclocking there GPU lots of people use MSI afterburner and if your using a gigabyte GPU that is a third party software if you use amd Radeon for you overclocking that is 3rd party software that's why you have to click through there terms that say that.

So again I am selling GPU's that are covered for most physical damage that may happen, and if you want to flash a new bios and you can't revert it it's still covered.

I'm confused as you say gimmicks where I'm offering the hardware and the protection plan. Also can offer the video cards without the warranty witch probably cheaper then most places.

Thanks,
:)


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: VirosaGITS on May 13, 2016, 04:57:48 AM
...how me saying GPU come with their own proprietary overclocking software mean you're going to not use that one... = breaking ToS. You're changing your tune every single time. Either OC break ToS or it doesnt. You keep adding and removing condition to justify your logic.

Gimmick: selling replacement plans, when its already going to be replaced with the warranty for no additional cost.

You are not offering any price and i doubt you could sell under retail price since you're buying at a premium price on top of retail. But i'll give you the benefit of the doubt with what you can actually sell at what price.

And i'll do you a favor and just leave you alone. Talking to you is like talking to a wall, and you dont get a single thing i say so you think i'm spouting random things. I think there is no point in further discussion and its not like anyone is actually confused about what you are (not) offering here.


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Joebrann on May 13, 2016, 07:08:01 AM
Lol I am enjoying this so much. So anyway I'm glad I've changed what I've said multiple times lol.. I expressly love talking to you it gives me a smile.

So let me see if anyone is interested in this without my gimmick warranty lol.

MSI Radeon R9 390 GAMING 8GB GDDR5 PCI-e Video Card. 329$

Escrow welcomed you pay fee and shipping witch in the US will be around 5-10$


Title: Re: Gauging Interest. For GPU Sales (Edited)
Post by: Joebrann on May 14, 2016, 03:51:16 AM
Lol I am enjoying this so much. So anyway I'm glad I've changed what I've said multiple times lol.. I expressly love talking to you it gives me a smile.

So let me see if anyone is interested in this without my gimmick warranty lol.

MSI Radeon R9 390 GAMING 8GB GDDR5 PCI-e Video Card. 329$

Escrow welcomed you pay fee and shipping witch in the US will be around 5-10$
This is around 20$ or more cheaper then even new eggs price 329$ flat no taxes. Also a 25 day warranty this gives time to get it back to the store if I need to return it and receive a replacement. (Brand New)
 
Also please post what video cards your looking for and I will post the prices I can receive them at.